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Revelation For Churches Today

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Ruben, I say you take the cake because you will do anything for the lie taught at the RCC. You say that Paul taught us in (2 Thess. 2:15) to believe in the RCC's traditions, is complete nonsense.
God's word, the Bible, teaches us that Paul taught the brethren (v. 13) at that time, beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning had chosen them for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the Truth to stand fast and hold the traditions which they had been taught, whether by word or the epistle. And this is what became part of the New Testament. What the RCC has taugth and now teaches are their own traditions and not part of the New Testament.
---Mark_V. on 6/29/12


Ruben: "St Paul also says that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:16), not the bible!"

The church is made up of people, christians. Where do you suppose the christians learned the Word of God? Through hearing of the word and by reading.

As for the "church," the word "church" has a completely different meaning today than it did 2,000 years ago. When someone mentions church they think denomination - E. Orth, RCC, Baptist, Lutheran, Protestant, etc. - each a product of Satan.
---Steveng on 6/28/12


Cluny, your worldly church is just as denominational as all the other worldly churches - RCC, Baptists, Lutherans, Protestants, Jehovahs Witnesses, SDAs, etc. - having its own traditions, rituals, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Your church also serves the government, has coveted trillions of dollars in worldly assets and is part of Satan's plan to divide and conquer christiandom. This is the end time delusion when a christian who thinks he is a christian, but is not because of the false teachings of denominational churches.
---Steveng on 6/28/12


Ruben there are many verses that say the Bible is the final authority.

Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Deu 6:17 Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

I can show many more.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/28/12


Ruben goes as far as saying, the Bible is not the only Truth, this way he can introduce the traditions of the RCC. Now that is taking the cake.

---Mark_V. on 6/28/12

Mark,

Was is taken the cake is that you can not give me one scripture verse that says that the Bible is the only authorithy for Christians. In fact St Paul under the divine inspiration of God,commanded us to obey 'Both" the written and unwritten ( 2 Thes 2:15), Mark what are the unwritten traditions? St Paul also says that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:16), not the bible!
---Ruben on 6/28/12




\\Cluny, I do not have a denomination\\

You can deny it with both hands, but you STILL have a denomination, Mark V.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/12


de-nomin-ation
de- away, remove
nomin- normal, regular
ation-that which is
denomination-that which is removed from normal.
MarkV you are in a denomination, although it may just be of 1...
---micha9344 on 6/28/12


Cluny, I do not have a denomination, you do. I don't support any denomination I support the truth. You defend the RCC when their doctrines matches yours and let me say almost all of them are the same at the expense of the Truth. Ruben goes as far as saying, the Bible is not the only Truth, this way he can introduce the traditions of the RCC. Now that is taking the cake.
No one has many questions for E. Orthodox, because when they have them, they say RCC because your denomination came from theirs. Almost all SDA's defend their own, Mormons their own, Jehovah Witnesses their own, Pentacostals their own, and the Truth is lost because of their pride for their own denomination. Now that is truth.
---Mark_V. on 6/28/12


I stand for the denomination of Catholicus, and I'm okay with that.
---Catholicus on 6/27/12


\\Of course not, they defend their denomination and not the Truth. \\

Wrong. I defend the truth, and you defend your denomination.

\\You and I can discuss whatever you want, I don't stand for any denomination. \\

Yes, you do. You stand for the denomination of Mark V.

You might be a denomination of one person, but that doesn't stop you from being denominational.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/12




Thank You!

Those who have expressed interest in my opinion. I will watch and listen for a while. If I feel that something I can add will have some value, I will post it.

God Bless!
---lutherist on 6/27/12


I tried this site again, hoping that some of you might have grown up a little, and were ready for real scriptural discussions.

God Bless!

--lutherist on 6/26/12

I was but you bail out!!
---Ruben on 6/27/12


I tried this site again, hoping that some of you might have grown up a little, and were ready for real scriptural discussions.
---lutherist on 6/26/12

I have found a short saying that states the truth of our spiritual condition (if we are willing to admit it) when we criticize the faults of others.

The saying is:

"if you spot it, you got it".

Do you get it, Lutherist?
---Mark_Eaton on 6/27/12


//By By!//

Bye Bye!
---aka on 6/27/12


lutherist, you could not take much, what's up with that? You have a few Catholics responding and one long E.Orthodox, and you run away. Did you think for a minute they would agree with you? Of course not, they defend their denomination and not the Truth. You and I can discuss whatever you want, I don't stand for any denomination. They can read it and say what they want, but nothing can change the past, and we are talking about almost 2,000 years of hell that many went through. What happened happended.
---Mark_V. on 6/27/12


\\But, NO, you are still spreading your personal spiritual fantasies.\\

And you never do that, do you, lutherist?

\\Wait for that "THIRD TEMPLE"!\\

Which the Bible makes clear will be the Temple of Antichrist.

yohannes_estoniesque , are you confusing yourself with Jesus? Eloy is already the resident Jesus wannabee here.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/12


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By By!

I tried this site again, hoping that some of you might have grown up a little, and were ready for real scriptural discussions. But, NO, you are still spreading your personal spiritual fantasies.

God Bless!

Wait for that "THIRD TEMPLE"!
---lutherist on 6/26/12


I came to bring divisions and a Sword. The Captain of many Hosts. I have sheep of other folds, and I must bring them also and there will be One Shepherd and One Flock {Millennium and Paradise}.
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/26/12


Protestants are extrinsically better, by their own admission.
---Catholicus on 6/26/12


The Protestants reached out to the Greek Church as potential brothers to stand against the false teachings of the Roman Pope.


---lutherist on 6/25/12


Which were???
---Ruben on 6/26/12


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\\Cluny, I was speaking about the RCC leaders and what they have done through the centuries with their traditions and evil practices. \\

And I'm talking about what Protestant leaders have done through the centuries with their traditions and evil practices.

You don't think Protestants are intrinsically better, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/12


lutherist* * Martin Luther stood tall as the Pope

"If God had not closed my eyes, and if I had foreseen these scandals, I would never have begun to teach the Gospel." [Walch. VI. 920

"I confess, that I am much more negligent, than I was under the Pope, and there is now nowhere such an amount of earnestness under the Gospel, as was formerly seen among Monks and Priests." [Walch. IX. 1311]

"Who would have begun to preach, if we had known beforehand that so much unhappiness, tumult, scandal, blasphemy, and wickedness would have been the result?" [Walch. VIII. 564]

Doesn't sound very tall afterwards, might be he realized Jesus did not give him the authorithy to loose and bound!
---Ruben on 6/26/12


It's the easiest thing in the world for you to point out other people's supposed sins in order thereby to point out your own supposed righteousness.
---Catholicus on 6/26/12


Good, for you!

Simple math is written as Numbers in Moses!
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/26/12


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Cluny, I was speaking about the RCC leaders and what they have done through the centuries with their traditions and evil practices.
Some protestant churches returned to the RCC traditions, Salvation by works.
As far as evil practices like, molesting children, at no time in history has there been a church with more pedophiles then the RCC. In Philadelphia along 21 priest were just susppended, and only after the grand jury reports otherwise they would have continued their abuse of children, and this is only in one area of the world. In 2005, a grand jury said there was evidence of abuse by at least 63 priest and that Church officials had transferred offenders to other parishes and dioceses, the leaders knew and still hid them.
---Mark_V. on 6/26/12


Sorry:

323 BC - 216 = 107

Ishmael is ~8 + 7 = 15.

100 years and 7 years coming..

The extra month is 13 = 7 Isaac + 6.

15 Ishmael + 6 = 21.
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/26/12


---yohannes_estoniesque on

since most numbers exist somewhere in the Bible you can add, subtract, divide, multiply, factor, to get any number you want. To show how meaningless numbers are there is a procedure using only four 4's in different equations to get every number from 0 to 100. 4-4+4-4=0, 4/4+4-4=1, (4/4)+(4/4)=2, etc.
---Scott1 on 6/26/12


I'll say this for Cluny -- he doesn't defend the pope.
---Catholicus on 6/25/12


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Numerology is one of the wackier superstitions.
---Catholicus on 6/25/12


Cluny-

I was just wondering why you are defending the Pope so passionately, when, during the Crusades, it was the Holy Roman Empire that rampaged through the Eastern Church and killed thousands of believers. The Protestants reached out to the Greek Church as potential brothers to stand against the false teachings of the Roman Pope.

---lutherist on 6/25/12


\\burned at the stake, for disagreeing with the traditions of the Church. \\

And Roman Catholics were burned or executed by Protestants when they got the chance. So what?

If you're trying to say any form of Protestantism is morally superior because it has clean hands is not working.

**2016 - 2012 = 4.
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/25/12**

And your point is what, exactly?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/12


Cluny-

Do you know that the Augsburg Confession was ultimately rejected by Patriarch Jeremias primarily for this difference in doctrine,

And I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the Creator of life,
who proceeds from the Father,

And I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the Creator of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,

God Bless!
---lutherist on 6/25/12


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1-5 Seals...

666 x 5 = 33 30 years...

3330 - 3114 BC = 216

232 Alexander - 216 = 16...

years...

4 days, day for year for the leap year left over: ~4 years...

44 1/2 months is written...

11 1/8 = {44 1/2} / 4

The Feeding of The 4 Thousand is written.

1332+ 450 Paul = 1782 BC + 2218///

- 175 Abraham - 18 Isaac = 2025+-

- 4...
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/25/12


Scott1-

True, however, the political collapse never actually happened, and as a result neither did the global economy collapse. Today, however, the exact opposite is happening. This time it is Biblical, because the global economic collapse is happening first and right NOW. The world-wide famine and political chaos will happen later.
---lutherist on 6/25/12


What if:

666 x 5 = 33 30... years.

3330 years - 3314 years = 16 = 4 x 4

16/4 = 4 ///

~4 years...

2016 - 2012 = 4.
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/25/12


Cluny, you said,

"I'll tell you: The Reformation was a reaction against conditions that existed in the Middle Ages Latin Church--conditions that never existed in Orthodoxy."

Cluny, the reformation was against the traditions the Roman Catholic Church had imposed on all the members which were never allowed by God through His Word. Idol worship, Jesus replaced as Head of the Church, by popes who were more evil then evil. Indulgences to free people they said were in purgatory, and most of all the freedom of individuals who were beheaded, burned at the stake, for disagreeing with the traditions of the Church. So at least tell the Truth if you even know it.
---Mark_V. on 6/25/12


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SEAL 3, Global economic collapse and famine, will send the world into political chaos. This began in 2008.
---lutherist on 6/21/12

possible but people said the same thing during WW1 or any major change in the geo-political arena
---Scott1 on 6/25/12


\\You could too, if you were not so afraid of the writings of the Reformers.

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I didn't know that you were Eastern Orthodox.\\

You didn't hurt my feelings.

Did you know that the Patriarch of Constantinople condemned the Augustana?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/12


Love (genuine love as in the verb form, the perfect love, the royal love of God and people) is the deed to protect you during the soon to come perilous times. It's the only word that is to open the gates to heaven for those who truly practice it.

Do an online KJV bible search of the word "love."

And while you're at it do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," "encourag," and "comfort" to learn how to put "love" into action.
---Steveng on 6/24/12


Yes Cluny!

I do know what the Reformation was about. You could too, if you were not so afraid of the writings of the Reformers.

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I didn't know that you were Eastern Orthodox.
---lutherist on 6/24/12


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True I do not know as much about the conditions in the Orthodox church as I do about the RCC. But the orhodox church followed putting tradition above scripture that the RCC followed. It also used the goverments to enforce it's regulations by law denying the right of humans to decide what to believe.

They also in the Iconoclast Controversy 726-843. choose against scripture.
---Samuel on 6/24/12


The Reformation was the precursor of the Enlightenment, which Eastern Europe unfortunately missed.
---Catholicus on 6/24/12


\\Do you two actually know what the Reformation was about?\\

You don't actually think that YOU know what the Reformation was about, do you?

I'll tell you: The Reformation was a reaction against conditions that existed in the Middle Ages Latin Church--conditions that never existed in Orthodoxy.

Therefore the Reformers were starting with the wrong assumptions, and of course therefore arrived at wrong conclusions.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/24/12


Rod4him, lutherist did not mean "//Martin Luther stood tall as the Pope...//"

What he was trying to say is that Martin Luther stood tall, (comma) as the Pope (who actually believed he had the power) excommunicated him.."
Completely different then what you thought he said. Luther never stood tall as the Pope did. Just something I saw.
All reformers were in agreement the Pope was the Antichrist. What other person has ever taken the place of Christ on the earth? No one but the popes. When the church united together, an Hierarechy was formed. Christ was dethroned as Head of the Churches and Emperor Constantine enthroned temperarily then popes took their place.
---Mark_V. on 6/24/12


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1) REPENT, REPENT, and REPENT.

in anon's defense, she did repeat repent in the same sentence multiple times, which implies that she believes it a continuous endeavor.
---aka on 6/24/12


Rod4Him-

Martin Luther taught the "PRIESTHOOD OF EVERY BELIEVER". That makes ALL Christians equal! Jesus' teachings have been taken out of context also, to commit horrible deeds in the name of Christ. Your ignorance on almost every subject is astounding.

StrongAxe-

You are confusing "Antichrist" with the "False Prophet" (the Beast out of the Earth). Antichrist is not anti-Christian, he is a FALSE, FAKE, IMPOSTER of Christ. Look it up in a Concordance. The "False Prophet" is the human leader of the "Beast out of the Sea" (Islam). It is the False Prophet that does as you say.
---lutherist on 6/24/12


//You don't actually think repentance is a one-time thing, do you?

You're wrong if you do.

It's a CONSTANT course correction, a lifestyle.
---Cluny on 6/23/12//

Cluny, thanks for the laugh. I can't finid any scriptures that say you're my judge or that Cluny is all-knowing of anon's heart and mind.

I KNOW what repentence is and NO, it's not a one time act.
---anon on 6/24/12


//Martin Luther stood tall as the Pope...//

Sounds like someone has made him the new pope.

BTW, I can tell by your comments that you don't know what I believe. I "blow off the pope" also.

BTW, Luther blew off Revelation, although someone here said that he accepted it at the end of his life, which I need to check, and he also became greatly anti-semtic, and Hitler used Luther's postition for the holocaust. In some sense Luther is responsible for the murder of six million jews. So yes, it is challenging for me not to "blow Luther" off.
---Rod4Him on 6/23/12


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Get right with God, for the second coming of The Lord Almighty is eminent and very soon: Do not be found without the garment.
---Eloy on 6/23/12


lutherist:

You asked: Cluny- Is the Pope of Rome (papacy) Antichrist

Unless everyone on the planet is unable to buy or sell without the Pope's mark on his right hand or forehead, the answer to this (and many other similar other accusations applied to other antichrist candidates) would have to be "no".
---StrongAxe on 6/23/12


Cluny and Rod4Him-

Do you two actually know what the Reformation was about?

Martin Luther stood completely alone against the Pope who claimed to be equal to Christ, and pronounced edicts from his throne that had to be taken as equal to the word of God. Martin Luther stood tall as the Pope (who actually believed he had the power) excommunicated him from the Church and banned him from heaven.

Martin Luther translated the entire Bible from the original Hebrew and Greek, and could recite the entire New testament from memory. Can you do that?

Before you embrace the blasphemy of the Pope, you should read a little about what he claims. Before you blow off Luther and the other Reformers, you should pray a little.
---lutherist on 6/23/12


//All the Reformers were of absolutely one mind on this.//

Does that mean they were correct?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/23/12


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for the body of Christ, i think it should be a macrocosm of something written to a smaller specific group. i think it dangerous for today's churches to try to insert themselves.

but, isn't that what it says, that many will be deceived. Note: Deception is slightly different than tricked. In deception, the "victim" is a willing participant. Eve was deceived and not tricked. Adam was not deceived, but he was a silent partner in the deception.

it is the completion of Jesus' Revelation to us and not the story of us.
---aka on 6/23/12


//All the Reformers were of absolutely one mind on this.//

However, they were being self-serving because they were "protesting" the pope.

It appears that each generation "sees" themselves as the center of "prophecy."

Since there is some economic problems in the world, that seems "to prove," to some, that the economic prophecy in Revelation is currently being fulfilled. How about the Great Depression? That wasn't it? How about the collaspe of the Roman Empire and the conquering of the Umayyads?

I am coming to a conclusion that Revelation is more than "time" related, but that it should draw believers hearts and spirits to worship a living God Who is in control.
---Rod4Him on 6/23/12


\\Cluny, how sweet of you to assume I haven't repented....not really.\\

You don't actually think repentance is a one-time thing, do you?

You're wrong if you do.

It's a CONSTANT course correction, a lifestyle.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/23/12


\\Cluny- Is the Pope of Rome (papacy) Antichrist?\\

Nope.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/23/12


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//In other words, anon, unless YOU repent, YOU will likewise perish.
---Cluny on 6/22/12//

Cluny, how sweet of you to assume I haven't repented....not really. That's a pretty judgemental statement, but I should have expected that from you. I truly forgive you Cluny. Glory be to God My Father and the Lord Jesus Christ in whom we live and move and have our being.
---anon on 6/23/12


SEAL 3, Global economic collapse and famine, will send the world into political chaos. This began in 2008.
---lutherist on 6/21/12

One reason that I've left several churches is that they ALL preached a "Prosperity Movement" gospel. EVERYONE can be rich. The key is to trust GOD for those blessings.

The message that I got was that my own SIN is the reason for my not being a Millionaire or Hollywood success story. I'm still trying to uncover that SIN.

I get the feeling that most churches -- Catholic, Protestant, Charismatic, etc. -- don't get the bigger picture here. As it is written in the Bible.

You answered things well. You would make a good End-Times Teacher.
---Sag on 6/23/12


Rod4him, I believe the first three chapters of Revelation give a great message to the churches today. The visible church is warned about sin and exhorted to holiness. In the rest of the book, John gives the ministry of angels more then any other single book. Revelation's primary theological contribution is to eschatology, the doctrine of last things in which we learn about the final political setup of the world, the last battle of human history and the ultimate defeat of Antichrist, Christ's 1,000 year earthly kingdom and the final state of the wicked. Revelation has produced 4 main interpretive approaches.
1. The preterist view
2. The historicist view
3. The idealist view
4. The futurist view
---Mark_V. on 6/22/12


Hello!

What if the math was:

490 {70 x 7} x 7 = 1470 + 1960 = 3430 = 1332 + 86 age of Moses in Wilderness + 2012

x 7 = 24,010...

24,010 - '7026' before the flood - ~7,010 - 2012 = 7,962...

- 950 Noah = 7,012.

And 24 - 16 = 8th king.

1,000 years for 7,000 years or 7 Multiplied to be Fruitful.
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/22/12


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Cluny- Is the Pope of Rome (papacy) Antichrist? This is an unpopular question these days, but one that needs to be asked. All the Reformers were of absolutely one mind on this.

"There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof, but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God." Westminster Confession.

Seals 2-5 are God's judgments against His apostate Church. (Deut 32:18-25) (Ezk 5:17) (Ezk 14:12-23) ((Re 6:12-17) (1Pet 4:17) (Lk 18:8)

God doesn't start pouring out his judgments on the entire world until Seal 6, when The Day of the Lord begins.
---lutherist on 6/22/12


The admonition of "REPENT!" applies to anyone who is living in sin. To those who are both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the Church.
---Gordon on 6/22/12


Rod4Him - I really appreciate your quest. However, I would like to correct something you wrote.

Martin Luther initially considered the Book of Revelation to be "neither apostolic nor prophetic" and stated that "Christ is neither taught nor known in it," and placed it in his Antilegomena (his list of questionable documents).

However, after intensive study of the book, he did in fact retract this view in later life. Luther, along with Calvin and others, agreed that the book should be included in the Cannon.
---lutherist on 6/22/12


\\ The Pope (ANTICHRIST) will lead a united apostate Christian Church.\\

Whatever faults the papacy might have, it has NEVER denied that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, which the Bible says is the spirit of Antichrist.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/22/12


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\\4) Unless ye repent, ye shall perish (that's per Jesus).
---anon on 6/2\\

Please note carefully that Jesus did NOT address these words to unbelievers, but to the BELIEVERS of His time.

In other words, anon, unless YOU repent, YOU will likewise perish.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/22/12


anon, That is the GOOD kind of Preaching! That is a serious Warning from Almighty GOD Himself, through this vessel. As angry as GOD is with America and the World for their sins and rebellion, HE is esp. angry with the rebellious and sinful, unrepentant parts of the Church. The Bible says that GOD is angry with the wicked everyday and it also declares that GOD judges HIS people first, before HE goes after the pagan unbelievers.
---Gordon on 6/22/12


1) REPENT, REPENT, and REPENT.

2) 2nd Chronicles 7:14.

3) Stop petting the sheep and give them the truth of the Word of God.

4) Unless ye repent, ye shall perish (that's per Jesus).
---anon on 6/22/12


"What message might Revelation contain for churches today?"
"Take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to 'escape' (flee away and shun the origin of) all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." For "who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appears? For he [is] like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: "He who has clean hands and a pure heart, Who has not lifted up his soul to an idol, Nor sworn deceitfully." Eph 6:13 > Luk 21:36>Mal 3:2>Psa 24:4
---joseph on 6/22/12


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God does judge, but it is in due time. In Revelation, Jesus starts by sending those letters to the churches to evaluate them . . . before we read about the judgment of sinners > "For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God, and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17)

Each church has the same things criticized or praised, in those seven letters > Revelation 2-3 > possibly this shows how a church can have unity . . . in what is right, or in what is wrong. Make sure you agree in what is right! (c:
---willie_c: on 6/22/12


It appears that not that many people read Revelation, not that I blame them. Calvin didn't write a commentary on it, and Luther said it wasn't canon...interesting.
---Rod4Him on 6/21/12


Seal 1-3 are already opened!

SEAL 1, Today, the Roman Pope has no army (Arrows), nevertheless, the blasphemous hope of a Christ-like holiness has again conquered the Church. The Pope (ANTICHRIST) will lead a united apostate Christian Church. Today, the holy uniqueness of Christ is commonly rejected. Christians still claim that Jesus is God. However, they also embrace the lie of Satan "You will be like God"

SEAL 2, As in 690 and 1453, God has once again sent the Great Sword of Islam against Apostate Christendom. Our judgment began 2001.

SEAL 3, Global economic collapse and famine, will send the world into political chaos. This began in 2008.
---lutherist on 6/21/12


\\that US protestant will merge/unite with the catholics churh at rome.
---mikehowe on 6/21/12
\\

Of course, this will leave the Orthodox and other Eastern Churches out if it.

I'll bet you thought it was just Catholic vs. Protestants, didn't you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/21/12


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Yes, The Revelation of Jesus Christ.

I am using this medium as an unoffical survey to get opinions for a paper I am writing.

Some use Revelation as pure eschatology, whereas I am leaning toward what Cluny said with an additional thought that there is a lot going on behind the scenes of our lives, and that we should praise God for Who He is.
---Rod4Him on 6/21/12


To clarify, you are talking about the last book of the Bible, right?

In case you are, it is clearly saying that no matter how bad things seem to get, God is still in control and His plans will not be frustrated.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/21/12


that one day there will be a union of church & state. that US protestant will merge/unite with the catholics churh at rome.
---mikehowe on 6/21/12


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