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Is slavery immoral?

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The bible is proof that men started making things up about god a long time ago. Parts of it are very old. Who else wrote the bible. Frogs? Orbiting teapots? Aliens from the planet Xena?

It exists therefore it had to be written. I wasn't there but male humans seem to be the most likely candidates.
---atheist on 7/2/12


Aka, you are right "the other men started making things up by "the slightest probability" a long time ago" and they are still doing it. We have the unchanging Bible (unchanging because God got it right the first time) and they have fertile imaginations funded by government grants. Make no startling evolutionary discoveries and you get no money. And the evolutionary story just keeps changing when yesterday's belief is proved wrong by today's evidence.
---Warwick on 7/2/12


Darlene, you're welcome, and God bless you too!
---Chria9396 on 7/2/12


Atheist, you wrote "Man started making up things said by "god" a long time ago." How do you prove this? Were you there?
---Warwick on 7/2/12


Man started making up things said by "god" a long time ago.
---atheist on 7/1/12

the other men started making things up by "the slightest probability" a long time ago.
---aka on 7/2/12




\\atheist, is dissing God immoral? is dissing Christians immoral? is abusing Scripture to dis Christians immoral?
---Eloy on 6/30/12\\

Youm do all three all the time, Eloy.

\\atheist, firstly, not all whom post here are Christians, just as you are not a Christian but a antiChristian.\\

Same for youm, Eloy.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/12


Chria9396 Thank for saying so. I agree there all kinds of slavery and they are all wrong and destructive. Blessings
---Darlene_1 on 7/1/12


Man started making up things said by "god" a long time ago.
---atheist on 7/1/12


Anyone who approves of slavery (in any way, for any reason) also destines themselves to be a slave to God (and He will also be "master" to you,....and you will also fear Him as a PUNISHER because you resent/fear His reproach).

God built POETIC JUSTICE into everything.

....but if a person wants to know God as ABBA FATHER and be a SON of His, they must not have the attitude of imposing misfortune on others (God doesn't "punish", He lets poetic justice "reward" you even before your deed, that is why you "fear" Him and embrace untruth).

Obadiah 1:15
"As you have done, it shall be done to you, your deeds shall return on your own head".
---more_excellent_way on 7/1/12


" The key words, BIND, AGAINST WILL, OWN, can be applied not only to physical slavery but also mental, emotional, spiritual slavery, and can be seen to varying degrees in any type of relationship from marriage, parent/child, brother/sister, friends

Attempts to control, are to some degree attempts to enslave, whether or not one is aware of it or not."
Amen chria9396. Well said
---joseph on 7/1/12




Atheist sometimes you say the most idiotic things. You talk about us making up our own God when the word of God predates us by milennia. How can we have had any part in that? How ridiculous.

I am still awaiting answers to my questions. I am patient and need to be as you are unable to answer even simple questions.
---Warwick on 7/1/12


---Trav on 6/29/12

da.., dang that was good. when you have been there, foresight is 20/20.
---aka on 6/30/12


atheist, is dissing God immoral? is dissing Christians immoral? is abusing Scripture to dis Christians immoral?
---Eloy on 6/30/12


Micha4344 where I come from you call people good when they stay out of trouble,conform to the Laws of the Land,and in general are well behaved and kind. It is a colloquialism for saying someone is a person who stands up and takes responsibility and has respect for others. It doesn't mean good as in holy. God truly is the one only true God and"good" one for he is holy and King.
---Darlene_1 on 6/30/12


atheist, firstly, not all whom post here are Christians, just as you are not a Christian but a antiChristian. Secondly, I replied to your abolished old testament extractions- Read it. And thirdly, I already supplied the Bible books, chapters, and verses about "biblical slavery" meaning "consentual servanthood" which is honorable and has zero to do with worldly slavery which is illegal. fourthly, stop extracting verses out of context from the Holy Bible in order to support your sins, and instead get saved.
---Eloy on 6/30/12


It is very disappointing to read so many equivocal christian comments about a simple and real question.

Well, here is my answer to the simple question: slavery has always been wrong and ungodly and God, the Creator of the universe, has never instructed and in any other way, implied that enslaving another human being was anything, but evil.

For all of those who still wish to be evasive and to vacillate about the issue of slavery because of America's sordid history, study the Character of the immutable God and perhaps, clarity may be brought to this issue as well as to many others.
---Allan on 6/30/12


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Eloy,

It certainly appears that you make up a god for each of you to obey. If you didn't the answer to this question would be the same and immediate from each of you. The range of answers here speaks to a very uncertain set of beliefs about god.If slavery is immoral then there should be scripture to back that idea up. If not, likewise. In another blog I asked, based if execution of children for those who talked back was correct. Still no certain answer.
---atheist on 6/30/12


""...they can be good people..."---Darlene_1 on 6/30/12
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags, and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
We are not good in and of ourselves, but in Christ is our righteousness.
It's not what we do, it's why we do it.
---micha9344 on 6/30/12


atheist, We Christians did not each make up a god to obey. Our God, Almighty Jesus, is a confirmed and real historical and ever-present person just as you and are are real and tangible persons. Religions make up imaginary gods, but we Christians follow the real Christ Jesus whom is not imaginary, but proven to be very real through his manifestations and tangible miracles in this life when humans call upon him for his help. Not only have I persoanlly experienced his miracles, but I have also witnessed others receiving his supernatural realities. Whenever a believer calls upon the Everliving and Almighty Jesus, things happen, real things.
---Eloy on 6/30/12


To all who question if a person can be other than Christian and have morals I would refer you back to the Word we follow,the Bible. Romans 2:14,15 Indeed when Gentiles,who do not have the law,do by nature things required by the law,they are a law for themselves,even though they do not have the law,since they show the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,their consciences also bearing witness,and their thoughts now accusing,now even defending them. I hope this helps all to see that even though our fellow humans may not be righteous they can be good people. Most know that goodness is not Godliness and one must accept Jesus as Savior to receive that,and to dwell with Christ in heaven.
---Darlene_1 on 6/30/12


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Atheist, I answer your questions, you evade mine.

Is Christian brain chemistry different? I don't know but it likely is. However my answer is no.

Christians have an advantage as God's absolute, unchanging moral standard is outside our imagination so we can test our thinking via it. You believe your mind evolved, did it evolve correctly? Christians also have the counsel of the Holy Spirit. This brings about equanimity and an attitude of service, as evidenced in good works Christians have done and continue to do.

I will happily give an hypothetical answer to your hypothetical question but first answer mine "Are you saying this is the situation for the c1 million abortions in the US alone each year?"
---Warwick on 6/30/12


A theist: Perhaps your pregnant friend should investigate the cause of her pregnancies, and do something about it. After all, it's not like she just caught a cold or something.

BTW, can you tell us if your "morality" is based on anything other than your own personal emotions?


---jerry6593 on 6/30/12


Do Christians have the sole claim to morality? What about other religions or even the different denominations? Are Buddist or hindu any less moral than Christian? Are Mormans any less moral than SDA or JW or baptist?
---NurseRobert on 6/30/12


\\Can you answer the question regarding such a woman, or would you leave it to her to answer?
---atheist on 6/29/12\\

Abortion is not the subject of this blog, and is a red herring for your original subject.

I suggest you start a new one.\, and I will answer it there.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/30/12


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Warwick,

Are you saying that the brain chemistry is different in christians?

Can you answer the question regarding such a woman, or would you leave it to her to answer?
---atheist on 6/29/12


\\Interesting that I am being questioned on absolute morality and morality standards, by a group of people who for the most part seem afraid to declare that slavery is immoral.\\

Even more interesting that you are refusing to answer the question about how you determine your standard of morality, which I am not the only one to have asked.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/12


Atheist, I don't have a faith-based morality. But that doesn't excuse me from defending or denying the intrinsic morality of human actions. Your personal tastes don't dictate morality, because if they did, when you drop dead, morality dies with you.
---Catholicus on 6/29/12


atheist, it depends on your context. Any word put in wrong context will produce lie. Biblical slavery was equal to honorable servanthood, and NonBiblical slavery is equal to ungodly and unbiblical and illegal conduct: Therefore since you ask a question with zero context, we Christians will answer according to the Bible context, and Not according to worldly context. Now, stop blaspheming Christians, the Holy Bible, and Truth, and get right with God while you still have "his" breath he gave to you to do so.
---Eloy on 6/29/12


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Atheist, slavery is a sin!

How can you speak of morality when your morality is but the product of normal unstable mental chemical reactions with no eternal foundation or the Holy Spirit to guide you. Conversely Christians (not of their own doing) have a foundation which has stood the test of time and will be here eternally.

As to the pregnant woman: This is a slight of hand trick. Are you saying this is the situation for the c1 million abortions in the US alone each year?
---Warwick on 6/29/12


Interesting that I am being questioned on absolute morality and morality standards, by a group of people who for the most part seem afraid to declare that slavery is immoral.

The claim that some of you have a foundational morality based on a god each of you has made up is humorous.
*************************************
A woman is two months pregnant,she has five children,her last birth left her in a situation that would likely kill her and/or the fetus if brought to term.

Should the woman have the final decision on what to do or should Warwick given his absolute moral perspective?
---atheist on 6/29/12


It is wrong to try to bind a person to anything against their will and slavery is against the will. One can never own another persons soul and slavery tries to own everything about a person in every way.
Darlene_1 on 6/25/12

I agree, very well stated . The key words, BIND, AGAINST WILL, OWN, can be applied not only to physical slavery but also mental, emotional, spiritual slavery, and can be seen to varying degrees in any type of relationship from marriage, parent/child, brother/sister, friends

Attempts to control, are to some degree attempts to enslave, whether or not one is aware of it or not.
---chria9396 on 6/29/12


\\Don't normal people know that slavery is wrong?
---atheist on 6/28/12\\

You've asked a good question, atheist, but I'd like you to clarify something first.

1. What is your standard for what is moral and immoral?

2. Do you believe in an absolute objective standard for morality?

Your statement I've quoted seems to be based on these two questions.

Please clarify.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/12


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You haven't seen a dog worshipping a false idol, have you?
---atheist on 6/28/12

Ohhhh but I have seen a dog worship his master. You worship yours. Your master is you. Even though your logic seldom fulfills you. You serve no one well, even yourself.
Claiming no GOD, you can't even utilize the patent holders instruction manual on how to confidently go though life. Even willing to sacrifice your children on the alter of your ignorance. What a fine example. A typical male with a free assembly instruction kit who throws it aside.
Yeah...i've lived there too...i recognize your symptoms.
You fail mightily atheist, while we watch "your" reality show.
Psalm 22:16
For dogs have compassed me:........
---Trav on 6/29/12


Atheist, I can respect your feeling that you find slavery personally distasteful. But just because you personally don't wish to be slave or a slave owner says nothing about the intrinsic morality of slavery. Please think it through a little harder.
---Catholicus on 6/29/12


Atheist, in calling yourself 'Atheist', you expose what you believe, and do not believe.

The Bible says at one time slavery was common, as is today deceit, murder, adultery and other sins. That does not make them correct. But everything must be viewed through -do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and Jesus' parable of the Good Samaritan.

On what basis can you, an atheist who has no solid foundation for absolute morality, criticize the morality or lack thereof, of any person? All you have is evolving attitudes to what is moral or immoral, situational ethics. The left of politics including atheists has passionately campaigned for a woman's right to kill her unborn child. Do you approve of this right? Yes or no!
---Warwick on 6/29/12


Atheist, what is your basis for asserting that slavery is always immoral? Whose moral precepts are you following?
---Catholicus on 6/28/12

I cannot imagine a situation in which I would chose to be a slave. I cannot imagine a situation in which I would chose to be a slave owner. Why would I need to follow another's moral precept. Don't normal people know that slavery is wrong?
---atheist on 6/28/12


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Atheist, what is your basis for asserting that slavery is always immoral? Whose moral precepts are you following?
---Catholicus on 6/28/12


All gods were created by humans.

You haven't seen a dog worshipping a false idol, have you?
---atheist on 6/28/12


All religiously based moral systems are created by humans, since religion stems from human imagination. Some of those moral systems have worked well and so have been declared holy by religious people.
---Catholicus on 6/28/12


Warwick,

There you go again telling me and others what it is that I believe.

From a Biblical point of view, you have an infinite list of choices regarding morality using that Bible as a "foundation." There is nothing in that collection of confusions that settles anything. Read the responses on just this blog question and you will see, if you are honest, that hardly anyone can look at the Bible and then step up and just say slavery is and always was immoral.

I can say that without your "foundation." Are you going to argue that slavery is, was, or could be moral just to prove me wrong? Or are you going to argue that the Bible says that at one time or another slavery was moral?
---atheist on 6/28/12


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Atheist, Micha answered your question from your point of reference. You claim God does not exist therefore have no firm foundation for morality only unstable human opinion upon which to decide right from wrong. Morality becomes an election-is it right, is it wrong? Let us vote! Look at the debate in the US regarding whether unborn children can be killed. It's right it's wrong, it's right... From a Biblical point of view we seek guidance outside of ourselves, beyond falible opinions and ask God should we kill unborn children. The answer is no.

Likewise we ask whether one man should keep another as a slave. The answer is again no. Jesus says to do unto others as we would have them do unto us.
---Warwick on 6/28/12


AS far a foundations go, Micha,you all don't seem to be doing so well. Can't even put a clear answer together on whether slavery is immoral, can you. Confused much?

Slavery is immoral, even in instances in the past and present when it is practiced by someone who calls himself an atheist.

Does slavery do harm to sentient and conscious beings--- yes? Slavery is therefore immoral. No god needed for that conclusion. And no none belief in god needed either.
---atheist on 6/28/12


There actually is a place called Slavonia. It is a rather large region in eastern Croatia.
---Catholicus on 6/28/12


cluny, I already cited two Biblical passages supporting GODLY slavery, one from the Exodus, and the other from Ephesians- Read Them. Which godly slavery named for Slavonia is exactly the same thing as "Consentual Servanthood", and not the same thing as the "AntiBiblical slavery" which is illegal, or else if in a "contractual servanthood" for an agreed upon period of time by the slave, wherein if comprises "abuse of authority", which is abuse towards the servant, for which many employers do such crimes today towards their employees, and some bosses are chargeed in the courts for such unlawful acts, and the other wicked rogues not sued are rightly judged by God for abusing his children.
---Eloy on 6/28/12


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\\Slavery is immoral.
---atheist on 6/27/12\\

Did you notice that my first posting already answered your question, atheist?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/12


Obama Health Care passed and if I understand him anyone who doesn't take out Health Insurance will be fined on their Taxes. Would you who wish please explain how forcing people who cannot afford to get insurance to do so,is any different than slavery. I have insurance but others who don't are now enslaved by this Law. Frankly how can something be good for people when it takes away part of their living and forces,enslaves, them to conform? How can America ever be called the Land of the Free? Doesn't this one Law set us on the road to Dictatorship? Under the guise of helping Americans it is hurting many of us. I would appreciate your input.
---Darlene_1 on 6/28/12


The problem is that without God, one does not have a basis for morality.
How can slavery be immoral if man decides what is right and wrong?
Slavery may be immoral for you, but not for someone else.
Slavery may actually be a benefit to "survival of the fittest."
It is interesting to see atheist use the word "immoral"
---micha9344 on 6/28/12


Slavery is immoral.
---atheist on 6/27/12

yes, slavery is immoral.
---aka on 6/27/12


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Here, let me help you all out.


Slavery is immoral.
---atheist on 6/27/12


\\During Biblical times slavery was a good thing\\

Where? Please give BCV, please.

\\ They were given very good provisions and treated as a member of the family,\\

Wrong again, as in everything youm say.

\\and they agreed to serve for 7 years, after which they were free to leave:\\

Youm have obviously confused indentured service with slavery.

Alas, that's not the only thing youm are confused about.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/12


The Bible is against bad Masters whom abuse their servants or slaves, and against bad slaves whom cheat their Masters. During Biblical times slavery was a good thing. As I have cited in the scriptures, the slave was usually treated very well than before they became a slave to their wealthy landownwer. They were given very good provisions and treated as a member of the family, and they agreed to serve for 7 years, after which they were free to leave: however often after their service expired, the slave preferred to stay for ever. When any antiChrist Master abused and tortured and imprisoned a slave, this crime gave slavery a bad reputation, whereas before slavery was a very good thing for both the slaves and the Masters. Read- Ephes.6:5-9.
---Eloy on 6/27/12


Exodus 21:20-21

20 When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod, and the slave dies under his abuse,the owner must be punished.21 However, if the slave can stand up after a day or two, the owner should not be punished because he is his owners property.

So much for being care for better, huh willie?
---atheist on 6/27/12


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There is slavery which involves killing and kidnapping in order to get slaves. This is immoral.

In war, there can be taking enemy troops as slaves, instead of killing them. I would say this is "more moral" than killing them.

And, yes, atheist, as you have quoted, the Jews had regulations for how to have slaves > they were to be treated with love. There are people who treat themselves worse than a slave master would treat them. Seeing how "a number" of people don't know how to take care of themselves, I would say it could be "more moral" for them to have masters who care for them right.

If a slave does not know how to take care of oneself, it would not be moral to just turn the person loose.
---willie_c: on 6/27/12


I do remember reading about a place called Lower Slobovia.
---Catholicus on 6/27/12


Sister Darline, I completely agree with your answer. "Physical slavery" is found in every country in the world. And it is immoral. God permitted slavery to happen all through history. God does not condone it, but permits it to happen. As along as there is sinners, sin will always be there.
"Spiritual slavery" is also found in Scripture. The lost are slaves to the devil, and cannot escape their condition. They need to be set free, and only God can do that through the Holy Spirit when He brings someone to life in Christ. Believers are spiritually slaves to Christ once they are born of the Spirit.
---Mark_V. on 6/27/12


\\Can any of you walk this one back?
---atheist on 6/26/12\\

What's your point, atheist? I've already pointed out that while the Bible tolerated slavery, it was never depicted as a good thing. Among Jews slave ownership was hedged with so many restrictions by rabbinic law and custom as to make it impractical. That's why there was a Jewish saying, "He who buys a slave buys a master for himself."

**Being a slave on a wealthy plantation was considered a blessing,**

Eloy, saying the same wrong thing over and over will never make it true.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/12


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Being a slave on a wealthy plantation was considered a blessing, the slave was adopted as a member of the family, and after seven years when the slave had the opportunity to freely leave in his year of jubilee and to go back to their tribe, many times they did not want to leave but instead preferred to stay with their Mister's home, and the Bible says that the servant's ear lobe was bored through by their Master as a sign that they preferred to stay with their Master for life. Ex.21:1-6.
---Eloy on 6/26/12


atheist, the forced slavery in our time is different than the indentured servitude in older times.
---aka on 6/26/12


Today, most believers enjoy being a "SLAVE" to God (okay, fine, do what you want).

The truth is that slavery is not God's way, it is MAN'S WAY.

Today (in JESUS DEVOTION), God's will is that we NOT BE a slave to Him (argue this fact as you wish UNLESS you care about HIS "WILL").

"the spirit of sonship. When we cry, "Abba! Father!" (Romans 8:15).

Today, we are supposed to worship GOD ETERNAL as ABBA FATHER, not JEHOVAH MASTER, neither is He to be a COMMANDER that "commands" us to do good (do you need to be COMMANDED to do good....or are you a LOVER OF GOODNESS?).

Titus 1:8 "lover of goodness, master of himself".

...or do you enjoy man's way?.
---more_excellent_way on 6/26/12


However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Can any of you walk this one back?
---atheist on 6/26/12


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\\slaves may be named for slavonians from slavonia, north of Greece. ...\\

Where did youm get yourm primary education, Eloy? K-Mart?

Slavery was NEVER being merely adopted into a family, but being purchased as chattel.

Furthermore, there is no such place as "slavonia," and even if there were, that is NOT the origin of the word "slave."

For those interested in truth, "slav" comes from the word "slovo", which is common to most Slavic langauges, and means "word." They were the ones who could speak--compare and contrast with the Greek word "barbaros"

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/12


The Greek New Testament is written in Greek, and the English New Testament is written in English.
---Catholicus on 6/26/12


Darlene1, Trish, I have heard of this kind of thing before. That's really disgusting that someone could be so low to do such a thing to someone.
---Jed on 6/26/12


\\ormainservant.\\

What's an "ormainservant." francis?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/12


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how many times doe sthe bible KJV use the word slave?

TWO TIMES ONLY
---francis on 6/25/12

The word DOULOS (and its inflections) are used MORE than twice in the Greek NT alone.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/12

is the GREEK NT the same as the ENGLISH KJV?
---francis on 6/26/12


\\TWO TIMES ONLY

the words we translate as slave are either bondservant, manservant, servant, ormainservant
---francis on 6/25/12\\

Wrong again, as in everything else you say, francis.

The word DOULOS (and its inflections) are used MORE than twice in the Greek NT alone.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/12


Jed The women I spoke of are the ones who are promised a good job and new life then brought here from other countries. They are put into houses where they are held prisoners and forced to accept the "company"of men for money. There have also been cases of Runaway teens who end up forced to be with men for money against their will. The "job lies" slavery is happening in other Countries as well. Women from poor countries are especially preyed upon due to no jobs where they are from. There are also kidnappers in the USA who force girls/women to go with them to other States for that purpose. It happened in a town near here,Texas,the girl was rescued in Washington State. Yes Trish those are the ones.
---Darlene_1 on 6/26/12


"Is slavery immoral?" Forced labor without wages. Yes. Of course. Not to be confused with the service of the bond servant as payment of a debt.
The LORD has declared, "I will come near to you for judgment, and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in [his] wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger [from his right], and fear not me, For I [am] the LORD , I change not, "
---joseph on 6/26/12


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slaves may be named for slavonians from slavonia, north of Greece. The idea of "owning" a person was considered like adopting the person as part of their family, and the term "slave" did not become derogatory until certain rich land owners started abusing those individuals that worked their large plantations.
---Eloy on 6/26/12


Jed: I'm not sure to what Darlene is referring, but I know of a form of slavery that exists. I saw a film at a Social Work CE once about women being kidnapped in certain countries, including the US, and forced into prostitution. They are kept in locked houses, and work out of fear of death. It would be a form of slavery.

It's hard to get to them, because the women are too afraid to run away. The johns won't report that they just committed a crime, and the captors are making money selling these girl to the people who pimp them out.
---Trish on 6/26/12


Darlene1, how are women in the United States forced into slavery against their will? Where is this happening?
---Jed on 6/25/12


It is wrong to try to bind a person to anything against their will and slavery is against the will. One can never own another persons soul and slavery tries to own everything about a person in every way. The USA has a Law which forbids slavery,but even that doesn't stop it for there are women forced into being a slave for money in the USA. Slavery is a terrible heinous crime against humankind and in my opinion certainly immoral under the New Covenant Law of Love. You cannot love someone and chain them to something which steals their life.
---Darlene_1 on 6/25/12


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how many times doe sthe bible KJV use the word slave?

Jeremiah 2:14 Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled?

Revelation 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

TWO TIMES ONLY

the words we translate as slave are either bondservant, manservant, servant, ormainservant
---francis on 6/25/12


Slavery per se has no moral character. It is still widely practiced in the USA through its prison and jail systems, holding over a million people.
---Catholicus on 6/25/12


At the time the Bible was written many things were tolerated we consider immoral today: slavery, polygyny, and remarriage after divorce among them.

NONE of these practices, while tolerated, were ever held up as good.

OTOH, some things the Bible flat out forbids, such as taking interest for money one lends, are considered perfectly acceptable today.

In case you're trying to play "GOTCHA!", it's not working.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/12


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