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Not Using Lord's Prayer

I have quit church and small group because all they pray for is bodily healing and material problems. I was asking too many questions. I hit the slippery slope out the door when they told me why they don't use the Lord's prayer. The situation was disappointing and depressing. Any suggestions?

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For reality, sad time you got some denominations

Some now, NO prayer at all, it's everything else,but the way we went and left praise God all the way home,we were so,happy!
Let alone the Lord's Prayer!
God help us!
We must continue be encouraged
Seek the Lord all we can..
Acts.17:24 1Col.3:16, ch.16:19
---Lidia4796 on 8/21/13


The Lords Prayer is one of the most beautiful, meaningful, and touching prayers in the Prophetic Scriptures, but those who recite it today are committing two major blunders. First, the Lord warned the disciples that they were not to pray this prayer, or any prayer for that matter, repetitiously (Matt. 6:5-7). Prayer is not a religious exercise, but rather communication with God, therefore, it should always be spoken from the heart. Second, the Disciples Prayer, which is the correct connotation for this prayer, was given as a model for those who would be called upon to endure the Tribulation. Since the Body of Christ is delivered from the wrath to come, this prayer does not apply to us in this dispensation (I Thes. 5:9).
---michael_e on 10/19/12


The real "Lord's prayer" is recorded in John 17!
---Marc on 10/18/12


The Lords Prayer is one of the most beautiful, meaningful, and touching prayers in the Prophetic Scriptures, but those who recite it today are committing two major blunders. First, the Lord warned the disciples that they were not to pray this prayer, or any prayer for that matter, repetitiously (Matt. 6:5-7). Prayer is not a religious exercise, but rather communication with God, therefore, it should always be spoken from the heart. Second, the Disciples Prayer, which is the correct connotation for this prayer, was given as a model for those who would be called upon to endure the Tribulation. Since the Body of Christ is delivered from the wrath to come, this prayer does not apply to us in this dispensation (I Thes. 5:9).
---michael_e on 10/18/12


The Lord's Prayer is just an "example" of a prayer it is not to be used as a prayer that is repeated over and over like many worldly denominations insist upon.

Prayer is nothing more than talking with God on a personal level or over a sick friend in a group. Every prayer is different because there are different needs at different times.

The Lord's prayer begins by acknowledging God as we call out to a friend to catch their attention. Matthew 6:9. And we do pray for our daily needs. Matthew 6:11

Do an online KJV bible search for the word "pray" and find how prayers are used in the bible itself. Not one prayer is the same.
---Steveng on 10/17/12




Be very careful what church you attend. There is a Scripture where God tells us, "I will send to you a pastor after my own heart". I am very sorry of your bad experiences.
---pat on 10/17/12


Jesus gave us a sample of how we should pray. I always start by thanking God for everything he has done for me. He has kept me, healed me and He has given me "things"I desire but do not need. Of course we pray for healing but I have never ask God for material things. My treasures are in heaven even tho I like earthly things and I even treasure my piano and jewelry my husband gave me over 55 years ago. I am not obsessed with any of it but I thank God for it. A preacher once told me if he fell and broke a leg he wouldn't thank God for it but he would thank God in it. God always has a reason for everything.
---shira4368 on 7/13/12


during the first gulf war, i went to a bible study that i was invited to. we went around a circle praying. it was all about our troops, god bless the US, and all that stuff. the whole time, i kept on hearing, 'pray for your enemies!' i was the last one to pray, so i prayed as i was instructed. i found out very quickly who the real enemies were. i did forgive them, but i don't have to hang around them if not instructed to do so.

btw- there was another church body that i did not agree with how they used the gospel. but, i distinctly heard for a year, "stay". during that year, i heard some amazing sermons and learned a few things. one day, i did not hear that and i was gone. more obedient and wiser.
---aka on 7/12/12


Bill, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

You said:
I have quit church and small group because all they pray for is bodily healing and material problems.
Bill, please try to understand what I am saying.

Why are you telling me, are we better than they? No, in no wise!
For we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin!
All of us!

Remember:
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Peace
---TheSeg on 7/11/12


I think you missed an opportunity, Bill.

When people pray they can be led by their knowledge or by the Holy Spirit. As a person, I cannot know of another's spiritual struggles unless they confess it to me or the HS reveals it to me.

As an intercessor for many years, the HS leads me to pray for issues in peoples lives that I never know of. The HS does not revel the issues to me, rather He leads me to pray about the issues through leading me into an area of life. I don't know how it works, but it does and has been confirmed by others.

You could have shown them how to be led by the Spirit by praying in such a way.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/10/12




"I was asking too many questions" Like Cluny, I'd like to know what questions you were asking.

"keep seeking the truth. even jesus HAD to separate Himself to talk honestly and transparently to His Father.

be encouraged. i use the template. prayer is not a constant request for Him to fulfill our will.
---aka on 7/9/12
Agree aka
especially keep seeking the Truth
---Chria9396 on 7/10/12


If you are referring to Matt 6, it was the disciples' prayer, given by Him to aid them.
The higher truths of the Father can only be found through questions and study. You will not find such a program in the so-called churches of today. They esteem men above the Word, hold to creeds and traditions as did the Pharisees of old, and stress feel-goodism above humiliation and death in Christ.
The sects of Christendom hold no treasures, and coming into a realization of our God, is the most important thing. You must be willing to suffer being misunderstood and cling to God and His Word, and never remove your hand from the plow.
---Phil on 7/10/12


If you do what God has you do, God will guide you to where He wants you. So . . . why have you been there, if that is not where God wants you?

"And I will very gladly spend and be spent for your souls, though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved." (2 Corinthians 12:15)
---willie_c: on 7/10/12


Other than asking why they didn't recite the Lord's Prayer, what other questions did you have?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/12


//Bill....Sounds like another person who left because he couldn't run things.//

bill, sounds like you are on your way. keep seeking the truth. even jesus HAD to separate Himself to talk honestly and transparently to His Father.

be encouraged. i use the template. prayer is not a constant request for Him to fulfill our will.
---aka on 7/9/12


Bill, I understand there is limited space in poising a question on Christianet Blogs. Please log and elaborate the rational for the prayer group not using the Lords Prayer.

Please remember that the Lords Player is just a template for a good prayer and "For thine is the Kingdom and the power and the glory for ever. Amen." was a spurious addition to Matthew 6:9 13 and is not found in early Greek manuscripts. The Luke 11:2-4 is the more correct rendering.
---Blogger9211 on 7/9/12


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Start visiting other churches and see if you can meet with one of the Elders or the Pastor to get an idea of what is going on at each church you visit.
---Trish on 7/9/12


Bill....Sounds like another person who left because he couldn't run things. Happens all the time. Since you seem to want things your way, just fellowship with yourself. That should make you happy.
---KarenD on 7/9/12


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