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Law Suit Against The Gideons

The ACLU recently won a law suit against the Gideons, a private christian organization. As a result, Gideons are now prevented from distributing Bibles to members of the armed forces. Does this law prohibit the free exercise of religion that is guaranteed by the 1st Ammendment of the Constitution?

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It was many yrs ago--a life time really but when I went into the service our train left at about 5 AM and i will always recall the Salvation Army people handing out bibles-- and i thought it was a fine thing to do and kind of a tender memory. I am Catholic so not a Salvationist but I liked what they did for all faiths
---Frank on 11/12/12


They are out to stop Christianity --Mark_V. on 11/10/12

Mark, The ACLU has filed suits on behalf of a Christian ministry for the homeless (MD), Raven Ministries (NO), Main Street Church, a non-denominational Christian church (UT): two Christian street preachers arrested multiple times for exercising Free speech. (NM): defended the free religious expression of a group of Christian athletes (VA), a Naval officer who sought recognition as a conscientious objector because of his Christian convictions: Dove World Outreach Center, defending the right to express themselves in public school with t-shirts stating, Islam is of the devil (FL), multiple others.

If your going to accuse someone of something, please get your facts straight.
---NurseRobert on 11/12/12


Jed, the ACLU is a satantic organization. They are out to stop Christianity where ever they can. The liberal lawyers are fighting every step of the way against Christian values and morals in the courts. But the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ, has their own lawyers fighting them and winning many cases for the Christian values and morals in the courts. This battle will never be over since most of the U.S. is liberal. And many of the Christians are not Christians because they do not stand for the Truth. All a person has to do is check for themselves the cases the ACLJ is fighting right now in court.
---Mark_V. on 11/10/12


I have only been saved for twelve years and five months. So I am off the hook! I do not understand why God's people who has the all-powerful God living in them, has stood by and allowed satan to have his way in virtually everything. Some will boast, I've been saved for fifty years. Something is wrong. And I do not understand it. Either you have been slothful, perhaps too nice>>>we are not called into passiveness, fear, or too busy with your life to be paying attention to what satan is doing. There is no excuse for God's people to bow to the devil. NONE! ZERO.
---pat on 11/9/12


On November 6, 2008, the military adopted a new policy allowing equal access to all outside organizations to place (not personally distribute) literature in the MEPS facilities.

An organization can supply material to a MEPS, but cannot distribute them person to soldier.
---aka on 7/19/12




Can you give the name of the case? I tried looking up "ACLU + Gideons" and found nothing involving giving Bibles to the US military.
---Cluny on 7/19/12

I too could find nothing in a actual court case.

It seems the military asked the Gideons to not distribute any more at the MEPS.

Which I can agree with, since it seems that the Gideons were the only organization allowed to distribute at MEPS. Unless all are allowed, none should be allowed.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/19/12


Hello Everyone, long time- no post....been crazy busy. We had a Gideon at our church a few Sunday's ago. He said they are giving Bibles to the Military & everywhere they've always given Bibles. According to him, nothings changed.
---Reba on 7/19/12


What you said was no help at all. It merely repeated what your original post said.

Can you give the name of the case? I tried looking up "ACLU + Gideons" and found nothing involving giving Bibles to the US military.

Maybe you can tell us where you heard of this?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/19/12


Interesting.

The US Army gave a "care package" to every new recruit in the '70's. In it was a small Gideons NT. It was what God used to fulfil His election of me as a son of God through Christ Jesus.

It is unfortunate that they will not be allowed to distribute any longer. But, nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his.

Nothing can prevent His will to manifest His sons. A way will be made to uncover those whom He has chosen for the Body of Christ.
---Phil on 7/19/12


i used to work at a MEPS (military entry processing station). everyday, i saw scared children clutching onto the books that the Gideons gave.
---aka on 7/19/12




Not in the military, Jed. There is nothing in this ruling that prevents anyone from worshipping. It does prevent the goverment from setting up a religeon.

I do NOT want my government from setting up a state run religion, be it Christanity, muslim, hindu or whatever. Thats opening pandora's box.
---NurseRobert on 7/19/12


Are the Gideons forcing the members of the armed forces to collect the Bibles? Are the Gideons preventing others from distributing their own documents? This decision to prevent them to distribute in my opinion is persecution and un-necessary restriction of the practice of Christianity.
---Adetunji on 7/19/12


No, it supports the law that says the government cannot establish a religion. If they allow the Gideons to distribute the Bible should they allow muslims to distribute the Koran?
---NurseRobert on 7/18/12

That's the thing, muslims do freely distribute the Koran to the military. Witches have even distributed their literature to the military. Allowing a private organization to distribute religious literature to members of the military in no way establishes a national religion. BTW, the law is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF..."
The Constitution guarantees freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.
---Jed on 7/18/12


No, it supports the law that says the government cannot establish a religion. If they allow the Gideons to distribute the Bible should they allow muslims to distribute the Koran?
---NurseRobert on 7/18/12


Yes Cluny, There simply isn't enough room to explain it in 50 words. The ACLU claimed that allowing Bibles to be passed out to members of the military equated to establishing a national religion. The court apparently agreed and now the Gideons are no longer allowed to do that.
---Jed on 7/18/12


I admit that the ACLU has a deserved reputation for being obnoxious and repulsive, but I would like to see what the suit was actually alleging and what the decision actually said.

Can you help us?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/18/12


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