I am going to quote God on this one. Because my God can talk, and your god cannot. "I am not interested in helping this world. I am interested in teaching you". Amd here is another one, and I quote God my God, "I would not get the credit".
---pat on 11/14/12|
Beloved, like I always say no matter what it looks like, how I feel or what someone thinks.God is always there. He been there so many times when I needed him.Remember god is omniprecent - so he is everywhere at the same time, all knowing, all powerfull and more
.His eyes behold both evil and good.praise be to the lord.amen.
---ELENA on 11/14/12|
Steven, you said,
"In that case, they definately do not need repentance for they have already repented"
Those save already have repented and will be saved. Those who are being born are born in sin like everyone else. They will be called by God, they will repent and they will commit their lives to Christ. Just because they were chosen from the foundation of the world, does not mean they don't need a Savior. No back doors to heaven. The Lord came to save His own.
---Mark_V. on 8/2/12|
Mark_V."Steven, the "us" and "any" is speaking of the elect."
In that case, they definately do not need repentance for they have already repented.
---Steveng on 8/1/12|
Many believers will be disappointed to understand this, but, God is not a 'caretaker'. Many believers have the wrong attitude towards Him and PRAY in order to manipulate Him to do THEIR WILL (and He will say "I never knew you").
God has already done what we should love Him for (creation, salvation, and giving His Spirit for us to learn how to have joy in life....to live better....peaceful co-existence, harmony).
"and care for no man"....RSV.
---more_excellent_way on 8/1/12|
Steven, the "us" and "any" is speaking of the elect. He is writing to them who are the "beloved" of God (v. 3:1), "those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ" (v. 2 Peter 1:1) In (2 Peter 1:2) Peter speaks to the pilgrims of the Dispersion and calls them the elect
"according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinking of the blood of Jesus Christ" Who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time" (v.5). And since many of the elect have not come to Christ, the Lord waits patiently calling and redeeming His own.
---Mark_V. on 8/1/12|
Mark_V.: Steven G, in context..."
What about in Spirit - and, being a knowledgeable person in a worldly sort of way such as you are, what other verses throughout the bible says that speak of the same thing.
---Steveng on 7/31/12|
Steven G, in context (2 Peter 3:9) longsuffering toward "us" not willing that any should perish but that all come to repentance, is not talking about every single individual. It cannot because the present world system is reserved for future judgment, which will come by the Word of God. How do we know? God told us, ungodly men would be there at the judgment. If He wanted to save everyone, everyone would be saved. For who can stand against the hand of God?
The "any" and "us" are the elect. And many have not been saved yet since many are not even born yet. God waits for them and endures endless blasphemiess against His name along with rebellion waiting patiently while He is calling and redeeming His own, the elect.
---Mark_V. on 7/31/12|
Mark_V. "The "us" and "any" refers to those in (v.1:1) the beloved in (v. 8)."
The ""us" and "any"" that you believe are only christians is actually any man on the face of the earth. God does not want "any" of his creation to perish from the beginning of creation. Besides, christians have already come to repentance and is now seeking all the others to come to repentance.
---Steveng on 7/30/12|
God's love for us is unconditional.nothing could separate us from the love of God.so whether we feel Him or not in our lives,God constantly cares and He is there for us.Sin blind us that God is an absent God.
Unlikely things that happen mostly happen because of our own free will apart from God's plan and will for our lives
---mj on 7/30/12|
Elder, that is a good answer! Thank you (c: God is by the still waters, and we can join Him here and be refreshed in spite of how Satan's kingdom does all it does to mess us up. "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." (Romans 12:21)
---willie_c: on 7/28/12|
Elder, that was a good comment, a very good comment! I would definitely want to be with the Lord sitting by those still waters having Him give to me His peace that only He can give. "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." (John 14:27)
In Psalm 23:2-3 it says,
"he leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:"
---tweety_bird on 7/28/12|
Amen MarkV. Could not have said it better myself:oD))), and would have had to stretch myself to say it, as well. Keep sharing and caring Mark. Be blessed
---joseph on 7/28/12|
Joseph, I love your answer. Nothing happens without the permission of God. He allows things to go on for the sole purpose of calling and redeeming His own.
"The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as we count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" ( 2 Peter 3:9).
The "us" and "any" refers to those in (v.1:1) the beloved in (v. 8).
God endures endless blasphemies against His name, along with rebellion, murders, and the ongoing breaking of His law, waiting patiently while He is calling and redeeming His own. It is not impotence or slackness that delays final judgment, but patience, not willing that any should perish.
---Mark_V. on 7/27/12|
We demanded that God leave our schools. We didn't need Him there. We threw Him out of the courts, military, work place, some churches, public life, TV, state and federal government and out of conversations in general.
We agree to murder His greatest creations today, babies. We hardly allow Him in our homes anymore. We have rejected His book and shown Him we don't care what He has said about anything.
So you tell me where He is. I think He is sitting beside some still waters somewhere waiting for us to come and ask Him to be part of our lives again.
Who will be first?
---Elder on 7/25/12|
One evil man has killed 17 people, and he has gotten all this publicity . . . while who knows how many people have been doing things to show that God cares, but have not gotten media coverage.
There is a "reason" why Satan has his kingdom work like this . . . to keep our attention to evil - - away from "casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:7)
One evil act can be used as a seed to effect the whole world. So, consider how much God is using each good seed you sow! (c: Because Abraham obeyed God > please see Genesis 22 > God told him, "'In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.'" (Genesis 22:18)
---willie_c: on 7/25/12|
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God truly cares - people truly don't.
As love slowly evaporates from the face of this world during these end days, so does God's protection of a nation. If you ever notice that when disaster strikes, people call out God's name and do a lot of praying. But soon after God is forgotten again. How many disasters must we endure until the nation permanantly turns again towards God? God does not want anyone to suffer, but because long ago God said that if you (man) can do better than me, do so at your own risk of losing my protection. God surely protects and rewards a nation who obeys, and curses the nation who doesn't. Man has cause the cursing of God unto our world and it is not going to get any better. So be prepared and endure unto the end.
---Steveng on 7/24/12|
Angie, the Psalmist asked "Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?" Then answered "If I ascend into heaven, You [are] there, If I make my bed in hell, behold, You [are there]. [If] I take the wings of the morning, [And] dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, Even there Your hand shall lead me, And Your right hand shall hold me. Indeed, the darkness shall not hide from You, the darkness and the light [are] both alike [to You]." Does He care? In the words of Jesus ""Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will. Do not fear therefore, you are of more value than many sparrows" Psa 139:7-12 >Mat 10:29>Luk 12:7
---joseph on 7/24/12|
God's ways are "past finding out." (in Romans 11:33) He is in control, and He cares. We get the best benefit of how He cares for us, by "casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:7) But when I disobey how He cares for me, I can get in trouble . . . mostly what I do to myself and get myself into.
Don't go where He doesn't take you. "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear not evil." (in Psalm 23:4) It's only a shadow, and any amount of light can send any amount of darkness elsewhere. So, why is so much attention to an evil thing, instead of to obeying how God rules us in His peace? (Colossians 3:15)
---willie_c: on 7/22/12|