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I recently posted a really powerful christian music video on facebook that I wanted to share with all my friends. A lady from my church said it is wrong to post copywrited videos on facebook. Is this wrong even if I just want to share the video with someone and I'm not selling copies of it?

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the temptation is overwhelming I must answer. yes I am a liar, thief, and anything else in your wicked imagination...oh yes, I am one of the biggest liars in the world. now are you satisfied?s
---shira4368 on 8/3/12


Tom, I was called names and uncaring for my views on illegal aliens and their burden on our country. Rather than MarkV addressing Jed's nonsense here not relating at all to welfare, he runs in and totally contradicts himself with his post here.

Jed is for welfare, is an Obama liberal, claiming ALL those on welfare are liberals like himself...he should know , right?.
WRONG, the majority of those on welfare, Hispanics who are RELIGIOUS Catholics, are actually basically conservatives to begin with.

That comment is a bazaar as Neil Bortz saying ALL women who smoke are "hoe's"..which he did.

We know that's not true EITHER!

BUT, I really don't owe you any explanation why I feel Jed is offensive.
---kathr4453 on 8/3/12


It is lovely to want to share what we find powerful. To have friends listen without charge is quite ok. To post publically is a different thing. Next time, ask the copyright holder - then post on Facebook with the comment that video is posted with permission
Why? It is legal. Also moral. Think about if you wrote and performed for money, your work ... then someone else grabs a view and everyone sees it for free. How many CDs or DVDs will now be sold?
I appreciate your desire to bring Jesus to our attention
Next time, please check with those concerned - OK?
---Fleur on 8/3/12


For crying out loud, Kathr, we haven't been talking about copywrited videos for the past like 50 posts. Good greif woman! Are you sure you haven't stopped taking your meds? You've jumped around to like a million different topics on this thread and now you want to talk about copywrited material again?

BTW, do you think it is wrong to wear brown if someone else tells you not to because they copywrited that color?
---Jed on 8/3/12


I just made my mind up not to give her the satisfaction of a response from me.
---shira4368 on 8/3/12

Really Shira, should I RESPOND to your question to me on another blog you just now posted??

So did you or did you not JUST tell a LIE HERE Shira?

Jed, it's obviously ok with Shira and friends to post copyrighted material when asked not to. You wanted Christians LIKE YOURSELF to tell you it was OK to do it.

You have Shira's approval. So what more does anyone need, since Shira is a perfect example of a FUNDAMENTALIST Christian ...who excuses bad behavior to get in a JAB to someone she personally doesn't like. It has nothing to do with right or wrong, does it Shira?
---kathr4453 on 8/3/12




Kathren, markv is right, he never said a word to you, not even mentioned your name.
I feel very sorry for your husband if you have one. He must hate waking up each morning and having to listen to you each day. If he works, he must hate going home each day.
If you don't a husband, then I thank God for keeping a good Christian man away from you, you would kill him, your mouth is a weapon, very deadly. Yet God can still forgive you.
---Tom on 8/3/12


Kathr, I don't know what conservatives call it when they are called out. I'm not a conservative, and I wasn't call out, just lied about by you. Like I said, you and others have successfully converted me to liberalism so I am putting my conservative past and all the responsibility and honesty that goes with it behind me. I am now a proud irresponsible liberal. Instead of attacking me you should welcome me into your ranks of government reliance. Is that the way you greet a new comer to the liberal party?
---Jed on 8/3/12


jed and markv, I'm glad kathr is attacking you instead of me. I usually respond on some things but most are stupid in context. I just made my mind up not to give her the satisfaction of a response from me.
---shira4368 on 8/3/12


Jed, it that what Conservatives call it when THEY are called out? Hateful rhetoric?

Same ol same ol crooked twisted political rhetoric


And MarkV, if you actually READ teh blog here you would see it was not and never was about WELFARE. Read the Question DAHHHH!

Now read what Jed said AFTER EVERYONE confronted him.

He turned it into a: "OH I know, I'll change the subject and blame the Welfare system for my bad or foolish choices."

Man, this country really is a population of idiots!
---kathr4453 on 8/3/12


Jed is exactly the kind of man who tries to seduce woman, and when they say NO....he comes back with, "OH what's wrong with YOU, There must be something wrong with you, here, let me psycho-analyze you, BECAUSE I know there's nothing wrong with me, Any woman who turns me down must have MENTAL ISSUES"

These guys are a dime a dozen.

and that's why all these poor women are mental patients on welfare today
---kathr453 on 8/3/12




Jed, I think it was a very kind gesture to share the video on facebook. But just for legality issues if I share music or video, I look to see if there is a share facebook link. If there is, I assume it is legal? I also thought your jokes were funny. I used to want to be a psychologist but instead I became a nurse working at a psych facility for many years. do not know if what u did was legal, but it was nice!!!
---judy on 8/3/12


Kathr, what namecalling did I do? You are the one who is out of control here with your mouth and hateful rhetoric. Reading your posts, it sounds like your ready to blow a gasket! Just chill out. You don't have to get so mad about people telling the truth. I mean, it's going to get out sooner or later.
---Jed on 8/2/12


Kathr, your again trying to pick a fight with me. Why mention my name? I didn't say anything against you, what you said I said, people milking the systems. I did not specify who because most everyone milks the systems. I called it sin. Native Americans are milking the system too. People lie when they pay taxes, some don't even pay, some lie to be on welfare, some lie to get their kids to better school system outside where they live. Illigals get things free, yet do the work others from here don't want to do, and would rather be unemployed. Many want the health benefits free, but don't care that those who work have to pay for their own benefits and also for those who get them free.
There is many who really need help, those should get it.
---Mark_V. on 8/3/12


Yea, and illegal aliens in this country is a tax burden as well. Not only draining the "public school" funds MY TAXES pay for, (as I am a home owner paying school tax,) but free breakfast, lunch, health care, the cost to incarcerate the criminal element...

However MarkV feels anyone who has issues with THIS are uncaring.

Is this just another CONSERVATIVE twisting the issues?

OH, Jed, if you were dirt poor, did your family pay property tax??? Were they property owners? If so, you couldn't have been that dirt poor. SO, you actually benefited from MY TAXES right?
---kathr4453 on 8/2/12


57 % of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program.


Immigrant households use of welfare is much higher than natives for food assistance programs and Medicaid.

A large share of the welfare used by immigrant households with children is received on behalf of their U.S.-born children, who are American citizens.


Immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, even before the current recession. In 2001, 50 % of all immigrant households with children used at least one welfare program, compared to 32 % for natives.

over 50% come here solely to live off the backs of hard working tax payers!
---kathr4453 on 8/2/12


Thank you Augie. The Hope is to hopefully make Jed realize calling people names on line is unchristian, as well as UNPROFESSIONAL as a DOCTOR of Clinical Psychology. And that stealing as a Christian is wrong.

The Bible also states we can REBUKE a brother/sister too.
---kathr4453 on 8/2/12


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Jed, you are right about people going on welfare or getting money for some mental illnesses. My wife's neice has bipolar, doesn't work, gets a check every month, gets all her medical free, and does not plan to ever work again. She's 26 years old. I also know a mom who claimed she was single, when she was not, who has been on welfare her adult life and now her children are on welfare. She works on the side and pay no taxes. It's true, many really need help like Aka, but there is so many others milking the systems we now have, Welfare, political system, banking system, health system, Insurance system Etc. There is too much sin going on. In just about every system, people are learning how to mild the system. The working person pays the prize.
---Mark_V. on 8/2/12


Kathr, you go girl! You're making all us liberals so proud!
---Jed on 8/1/12

This blog question has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. It has to do with being HONEST.

But the liberal that you are you have used to excuse your bad behavior. You claim all liberals are dishonest, and then fulfilled your own definition of liberal.

You've lost all credibility Jed.
---kathr4453 on 8/2/12


Augie,

Probably the same thing you tried to accomplish when you said to Jed, "You sound just like my ex-Wife!"
in the 'Obama Dislikes Christians' defunct blog.
---Nana on 8/2/12


Jed, Kathr4453, and Others ...

2 Timothy 2:16, 2:23 -- "Avoid foolish arguments that lead to strife and fights"

Titus 3:9 -- "Avoid worthless tak that leads to more Godless behavior"

I don't think that all the bickering is doing anyone any good. And it is not pleasing to God.

What do any of you hope to accomplish with all this stuff?
---Augie on 8/1/12


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Kathr, you go girl! You're making all us liberals so proud!
---Jed on 8/1/12


" Kathr: You go girl."
---Madison1101 on 8/1/12

I am Nana and I approve this message!
---Nana on 8/1/12


Kathr: You go girl.
---Madison1101 on 8/1/12


Actually I think a few of us are confused as to how someone DIRT POOR managed to become a DOCTOR of Clinical Psychology with a 4 year degree WITHOUT ANY HELP, who ends up with out a nickel to his name or a car, to recently buy a pest control business?

Was that because you possibly got fired or perhaps sued for calling your patients "MURSE", and such like PET nick names or "Oprah Winfrey Liberals" as you forced your OPINIONS and condescending pet names and remarks on your patients, and REFUSED to take discipline from your superiors when asked to stop but chose rather to QUIT than admit you were wrong?

Not confused at all Jed! I got it all figured out! After all, it was "JUST a JOB", right?
---kathr4453 on 8/1/12


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Jed, if I'm confused here ---kathr4453 on 7/30/12

Yes, I totally agree with that statment.
---Jed on 7/31/12


Jed, I just wrote a new book..
I'm OK but YOU'RE not!
When supposed DR's abuse their power by asking if one is OK by trying to TURN the Tables and pointing fingers elsewhere...THESE Supposed Drs like Jed are DANGEROUS and use that power to play around with YOU, excusing their own bad behavior, because for some reason THEY believe they are INTITLED to do so. Drs like Jed are QUACKS. Stay away from them.

---kathr4453 on 7/31/12


Jed, I just thought of a great name for you new Pest Control Business. You actually can combine both your DR of Clinical Psychology with Pest Control:


Call it
Is something BUGGING You?

And your sub-heading can read,

Are there bats in your attic?
Did your cheese slip off your cracker?( that would work for mice trapping too)
---kathr4453 on 7/31/12


Jed, if I'm confused here, it's because you are posting things totally unrelated to your statements and original post. First you KNOW for a fact 90% of those on welfare go to psychiatrists to get some mental test stating they cannot work due to laziness because they are liberals.

You however have case loads of suicidal patients unrelated to welfare, yet are an expert on welfare and fake mental illnesses only Psychiatrists handle.

OK, so how does this relate to your taking some-one's video that is copyrighted and posting it on face book?

Does anyone want to diagnose this? What DEGREE does one need here to diagnose this Jed?

---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


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Copyright Laws and Fair Use have gotten more complex than ever before.

I've run into these issues with many types of media: Music, Videos, Printed Articles, Computer Software, etc.

I've learned that my own knowledge of all the laws is an EVOLVING process. Just like learning about the Bible is a continuing process.

I've been told by other people that Copyrighted material shouldn't even be used on a home-made video. I once used a lot of Christian music along with some missions trip videos.

If anyone complains to me, I'll just explain that I'm still learning about Copyright limits and such.

The Bible says we MUST forgive others and their faults. Including my being ignorant of Copyright issues.
---Sag on 7/30/12


Kathr, are you okay?
---Jed on 7/30/12


Narcissism has increased among Americans over the past 15 years, a joint study from San Diego State University (SDSU) and the University of South Alabama has concluded. The results suggest that the United States is poised to experience social problems as younger narcissists age and move into positions of power.

The study, led by SDSU psychologist Jean Twenge, sought to settle a hot debate in psychology over mixed results of studies examining the prevalence of narcissistic personality traits among tens of thousands of American college students. These traits include an unfounded sense of entitlement and overly high self-regard.

Strange coincidence! Just about the same time SELF ESTEEM was promoted in our public schools.
---kathr4453 on 7/31/12


Here is an interesting statistic:

"Employment of psychologists is expected to grow 22 percent from 2010 to 2020, faster than the average for all occupations."

I wonder WHY that is? Because mentally challenged people are on the rise? OR is this too a scam for the purpose of getting more and more on welfare and DRUGS!
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


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Jed, here is what I think of Clinical Psychologists:

Their one of the major reasons our kids in school are so messed up...SELF ESTEEM has priority over discipline. Here a teacher cannot put a child's name on te black-board because it may damage their self esteem.

Since the Federal Government took over the schools in the 70's, THEY have totally corrupted beyond repair. Teachers spend the majority of their time filling out Government forms than teaching.

Our educational system is not preparing these kids for success, but the opposite.

It's so bad, Teachers have now been caught cheating on the kids TESTS to make scores look higher than they are.

This is not a "liberal" issue, as both sides are guilty.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


Kathr, what are you talking about? I am a real doctor. Psychologists are doctors. I'm a completely different kind of doctor than a psychiatrist. And no doctor has the ability to admit someone to welfare. People have to go down to the welfare office and apply on their own. And I never said anything about people trying to commit suicide to get on welfare. Quite frankly, nothing you are saying is making any sense. Your posts are completely incoherent.
---Jed on 7/30/12


Pappa bear, it wasn't a you tube to facebook....

Jed, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill because you refuse to face teh fact that you will not admit you did something wrong, and take responsibility for it.

You tried to get around it by bringing this blog to a welfare state of mind, having NOTHING whatsoever to do with YOUR initial question.


If YOU are not a DR. who has the authority to admit a suicide patent to the welfare system, why do YOU believe YOU as a clinical phycho are smarter than the REAL DR?

People do not try to commit suicide in order to get on welfare. IF perhaps they did, THEY NEED HELP! No person in their right mind tries to commit suicide.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


"90%--99% WHATEVER..."

There is a big difference between 90% and 99%. You intentionally misquoted me. There is a big difference between saying 10% of mental cases are legit and only 1% of them are.

"So are you saying YOU are the one who gets these people on welfare?"

No that's not what I said. I said I am a clinical pschologist (not psychiatrist) and the head of the crisis intake. Basically, I admit folks who are contemplating or have attempted suicide. When someone is trying to get on disability, they go to their personal psychiatrist.

"Anything to change the subject..right Jed?"

Umm, I'm not the one who changed the subject.
---Jed on 7/30/12


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I myself do like posting YouTube videos on my FB page, I go and find the official videos of that artist that are posted on YouTube by their record label who by placing it on YouTube in an official capacity agree to have it shared for viewing on YouTube and all associated sites. He may have stumbled, but there is no need to get out the thumb screws. Restore the brother gently, patiently and all of these justifying, body slamming and knockout punches may not be so necessary as They will know us by our love and all that good stuff.
In His grip.
---Poppa_Bear on 7/30/12


Kathr, Actually I am a clinical psychologist. I am the crisis intake Dr. at the mental health agency I work at.
---Jed on 7/30/12

90%--99% WHATEVER...So are you saying YOU are the one who gets these people on welfare?

But does your degree qualify you to illegally post copyrighted materials on facebook?

Anything to change the subject..right Jed?



---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


Therefore, what Jed is saying is our medical field is who is responsible for those on welfare. And we know the pharmaceutical industry is just itching to get you on drugs. Just watch the TV ads.

It's all big business Jed, where even Capitalism pays off for the capitalists. They make a boat load off food stamps. And have lobbyist in DC just for that very purpose.

And you want us to believe it's just a liberal issue.

The WHOLE SYSTEM on both sides is corrupt Jed.

That's the point I'm trying to make.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


Many of the rich in this country have an entitlement mentality too. They just pay the $200 fine because it means nothing to them. And to say they don't break laws is silly. Maybe they aren't violent, but there are many that break all kinds of laws on a regular basis.

Everyone does whatever they want because they're the center of the universe, not because they're poor, rich, educated or ignorant. Jed just posted copyright material illegally on facebook..SAME MENTALITY!

After all, rules are meant to be broken, whether it's talking on your cell phone WHILE DRIVING, cheating on your taxes ,driving with no license/insurance, or cheating on your welfare/food stamps application. Or cheating on posting copyright material on facebook.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


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Jed I though you did pest control?? How many Jeds are there?
---NurseRobert on 7/30/12


Kathr, Actually I am a clinical psychologist. I am the crisis intake Dr. at the mental health agency I work at. And I did not say 99% as you lied. I said about 90%. I started my career in Case Managment and I have more than qualified to say who has a legitimate mental disability and who doesn't. You have no idea what you are talking about. Doctors want to get anyone they can on welfare and disability so their client's have a payer source and the doctors can keep making money off them.
---Jed on 7/30/12


TRUE STORY,
A man left his 6 figure CEO position and went to work in the worst Chicago Inner City School System teaching. He took these HS students who had no furture for college and taught them how to start their own business. It was SUCCESSFUL. And these kids did start their own little businesses.

So Jed, instead of bashing an already broken system that includes out very poor school systems, maybe YOU might choose to get INVOLVED with young people and teach them something YOU do.

It cost $95,000 per year of my taxes to house these guys in prisons, and only $7,000 per family of 4 to pay welfare. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

It doesn't cost a dime to complain!
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


So is the conclusion here that Jed after all has an excuse to post copyrighted material on face book .

Talk about getting off the subject.

Now who's the con artist. I SAY JED!

Wow Jed, you're good! Let's see what con game YOU can play on the next group of suckers!

All because you did something illegal and YOU want to con people to believe what YOU did was OK.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


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The FACT is Jed with your last post. YOU are not a Doctor are you? But you have placed yourself above Doctors in also saying they don't know what they are talking about or that all these Dr's are dishonest too.

When you start throwing out things like 99%,...if anyone else did that, they would be forced to PROVE those statistics.

The truth-o-meter finds your statement FALSE!

Had you said maybe 30% or something around there, you may have made an accurate statement.

Even a Prison Guard isn't qualified to be a Judge.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/12


Darlene, when I am at a gas station and asked for gas money, I go into the cashier with the person and give it to the cashier, so I know it is going in their gas tank. I also give food, or McDonalds gift cards to people begging on the side of the road. I also volunteer with a homeless ministry that brings the homeless in off the street in the freezing cold. Volunteers drive a bus to the homeless camps and pick them up. Then other volunteers make them a meal at the church they'll be staying in, where the food is donated by church members. Other volunteers check the guests in, and give them bedding to sleep with. Then there are two teams of volunteers that stay up all night making sure that everyone is safe.
---Trish on 7/29/12


Jed thank you for taking time to explain why you said that,sorry I said anything. I think it's a shame that happens but it isn't just the mental health field. Our churches have to turn people away now because so many strangers came asking for help and that is their sole means of making a living. They go from town to town,church to church looking for the next church they can con. Something even more unbelievable is the people who work the roadside rest-stops along the major highways. We saw a family with a bunch of children in a beat-up green station wagon asking people for gas money. That was in Texas,my cousin saw the same car and family in New Mexico. Sadly there are a lot of crooks who don't use a gun but rob the systems instead.
---Darlene_1 on 7/29/12


//90% of the clients in the mental health system are no different then you and I. No more diabled that everyone else, they were just too lazy to work and had figured out a way of milking the system.//
---Jed on 7/29/12

i had a serious head injury at 32. couldn't walk, talk, see for a while. i had no insurance. the neurologist went ahead and did the surgery i needed at cost. he said that he decided to because he knew i had a reason to live (daughter) and that i wasn't going to lay around and wait for my disability check. VA paid me 90%. so, i went back to school and started to work after. oh, i could have been on disability the rest of my life. but, what message would i be sending to my daughter and to my God.
---aka on 7/29/12


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It will never happen, a mental clinic taking in a jackass for checkup mental checkup. ---Nana on 7/28/12

Happens every day. That's where most of their business comes from.

Darlene1, If you have never worked as a Case Manager in the mental health system then I wouldn't expect you to understand. I used to think like you do about people diagnosed with a mental illness before I actaully started working with them. Them I realized that 90% of the clients in the mental health system are no different then you and I. No more diabled that everyone else, they were just too lazy to work and had figured out a way of milking the system.
---Jed on 7/29/12


Jed the remark about getting on disability for mental illness is very much beneath you. Of all people I expect you to be the most understanding of someone who has mental illness and has to get on welfare because they cannot function in this world. I'm not fussing at you,just being honest,I know you were kidding around to make a point,and please forgive me if I offend you, but I really think you are better than that. Blessings
---Darlene_1 on 7/28/12


"I am going to be making some big changes in my life that involve closing my business and getting on welfare. First step is to check into a mental health center first thing Monday morning and get a diagnosis so I can get on disability. Thank you guys so much!"---Jed

I ROFL'd
---CraigA on 7/28/12


It will never happen, a mental clinic taking in a jackass for checkup mental checkup. They'll call animal control if he were to show up at their front door, or they'll call the pest control guy for sure.
---Nana on 7/28/12


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\\Trish, the artist in the video is very rich and doesn't need the money as much as I do, so taking from him is totally oka\\

Does that mean you can steal his good, Jed?

I don't think so.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/29/12


First step is to check into a mental health center first thing Monday morning and get a diagnosis so I can get on disability. Thank you guys so much! ---Jed on 7/28/12

Jed, don't forget instruct your dr. to write you up for FMLA. (as long as someone else pays, he will.) while other good workers around you are being laid off, you can come into work any time you want, any hours, and you can keep your position. you will not get paid for the hours that you miss, but don't worry...I will pay for you...as long as i don't get laid off.
---aka on 7/29/12


So now Jed says all liberals are law breakers? WOW, and he says he's not opinionated.

So, while you're making excuses of stealing, what excuse do you have for mis-using NurseRobert's name? Is mocking Nurse Robert a conservative or liberal thing Jed, since I see you using MURSE now as a liberal too?

GROW UP Jed. It's people like yourself who give Conservative's a bad name. They use to be real opinionated on immorality too, UNTIL they got caught DOING THE SAME THINGS they judged others for doing!
---kathr4453 on 7/29/12


Jug Head, what you just displayed here is called HYPOCRITE. It's not that you EVER changed your mind about your actions, it's that you got CAUGHT doing the same things you pride yourself on not doing.

If you STOLE after your change of heart, well then, it's because you were looking for a good reason TO STEAL to begin with. But stealing before, and then getting caught, AND THEN trying to excuse your actions is called HYPOCRITE.
---kathr4453 on 7/29/12


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Kathr, I am not mocking. You, Francis, Trish, Murse Roberts, and all the other liberals on this site have successfully converted me to liberalism. Everything you've been saying all along about wealth redistribution and irresponsibility being moral and success being a sin has finally broken through to me. I now see the light and how wrong I was to believe in self reliance and personal responsibility. All I can say is thank you for teaching me the right way. I am going to be making some big changes in my life that involve closing my business and getting on welfare. First step is to check into a mental health center first thing Monday morning and get a diagnosis so I can get on disability. Thank you guys so much!
---Jed on 7/28/12


My church uses music videos and movie clips from YouTube all the time.

You aren't profiting from someone else's work, so where is the sin? Tbqh, I dont see what the problem is.
---CraigA on 7/28/12


Jed, why do you mock? In your statement, you are trying to justify your actions, by pointing fingers at others.

Just admit you didn't know it was WRONG, and take it off.

Now that you KNOW it's wrong, why now try to justify what you did?
---kathr4453 on 7/28/12


Trish, the artist in the video is very rich and doesn't need the money as much as I do, so taking from him is totally okay. Didn't you know it's okay to take something you didn't work or pay for as long as it only hurts the rich? Sheesh, good liberal you are! You guys invented that rule. I'm just making it fair. It's not right for some to be wealthier than others. Anyways, it's not like they got their success on their own. It's not like he worked hard or made sacrifices to get where he is or anything. If anything, he's owes me for his success so letting me copy a video is the least he could do to pay me back, right? I'm just doing a little wealth redistribution of my own, from the very rich to the middle class.
---Jed on 7/27/12


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Jed: Sharing your own videos is not immoral. Sharing copyrighted material is basically stealing from the artist who holds the copyright, and stealing is immoral.

My point was you shouldn't be so quick to criticize others here.
---Trish on 7/27/12


Trish, you consider sharing videos immoral. I don't
---Jed on 7/27/12


Jed: You are so quick to criticize me for my supposed lack of knowledge on guns, or to post Blog Question on the morality of spending beyond one's means. Yet, here you are, admitting that you did something that was not only immoral, but illegal, albeit, unknowingly. Don't you think you might want to stop judging and criticizing people who don't act or think like you do, since you have proven here that you are also a flawed human being who does immoral and illegal things too?
---Trish on 7/26/12


\\Darlene1, I already stated that I did not make any copies of the DVD.\\

Yes, you did. You made a copy of PART of the copyrighted DVD, and posted it on the internet.

\\ And it was not my intension for other people to make copies of the video.\\

That may not have been your intention, but you have no control over what other people might do with what you put on your Facebook account.

You COULD be charged with being an accessory to their copyright violations--to say nothing about your own.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/12


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Jed: Your tools do not have a copyright. While it is legal to lend your property to a friend, it is not legal to post copyrighted material on the Internet. Big difference.
---Trish on 7/26/12


Jed I'm sorry but it isn't my reasoning it is the fact of the Laws of the USA. Loaning someone your tape to listen to and putting in on the Internet is two different things and totally different from loaning someone tools. When you put it on Facebook you actually did copy it because you moved it from your video into an open public site where anyone could make a copy of it. I know your heart was in the right place but you needed written permission from the owner/artist before you could legally post it. You only own the right to listen to the video not make any kind of reproduction of it no matter how you did it. My son is a songwriter and I really do know a little bit about the Copyright Laws.
---Darlene_1 on 7/26/12


Jed: It's considered stealing from the artists who made the video, because they do not get any royalty money for what you posted, nor did they authorize you to post their work.
---Trish on 7/26/12


Darlene1, I already stated that I did not make any copies of the DVD. And it was not my intension for other people to make copies of the video. I simply wanted to share the video's message with my friends on facebook so they could watch it, not steal it. I see this no different than if I had actually loaned them the DVD. Is it wrong to share a DVD with someone? I figure if I paid $20 for a DVD then I own it and should be able to do whatever I want with my own property, including sharing it with someone else. By your reasoning, it's also wrong to let my neighbor use my tools to fix his car because it causes the tool company to lose a sale to my neighbor.
---Jed on 7/26/12


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Jed:

Since you are a student of the Scripture, you must be aware of this verse:

Eph 5:3 "But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints"

Everything we do is seen and scrutinized by the world. We must always err on the side of propriety, regardless of whether it is legal or not. Our witness is not only our own but also of our Lord. We do Him damage by any hypocracy in our lives or by coming too close to the evilness of this world.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/26/12


Copyright Law says you can't make a copy of anything you buy,music,CD,tape,etc to share it with some one else. That is stealing what other people own,the right to reproduce or make profit on their work is theirs alone. Christians have been terrible about making copies of Copyrighted work and giving it to other Christians,that is breaking the Law and stealing any money the owner would make if those others buy their works. I see no difference in that and putting it on Facebook,the owner gets no royalty off his work.
---Darlene_1 on 7/26/12


The best way to get around the problem on Facebook is to post the video on You Tube and then put a link to the video on Facebook.
---Blogger9211 on 7/26/12


Copyright law and what constitutes "fair use" have gotten complicated in the last 20 years or so.

I understand what the lady from your church said and why she said it.

I don't know what you did on Facebook is legal or illegal.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/12


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There have been a couple of reports that Facebook removed some videos for containing copyrighted material. The videos themselves were homemade, but they were jazzed up with copyrighted soundtracks. One example included a short video of two cats wrestling to the music "Doing It Right" by the Go Team.

If you do upload any videos to Facebook, make sure they don't infringe on any copyright laws. Use public domain music instead.
---kathr4453 on 7/26/12


Jesus says, "Freely you have received, freely give." (in Matthew 10:8) Most of all, I understand this means to love people "freely", by sharing with anyone whatever our Father has for us. We are family, in Jesus. So, I would not dare to make my own family pay for what our Father has to say or sing or write to us. So, copyrighting, to me, is not giving freely what belongs to God. And so, if a human does not love freely by giving freely . . . there can be an unfree spirit involved in whatever that person is ministering. I have seen that unfreely given things have defects because of the wrong spirit. If you would not sell sex, I hope you would not sell what is supposed to be of God's love. Love is so much more holy than sex!!!
---willie_c: on 7/26/12


If Facebook let you post it, it's probably okay.
---Smitty on 7/26/12


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