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What Was The Serpent

What did the serpent, who deceived Eve, look like before God made him to crawl on his belly?

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It is like Satan's original name, which in Isaiah is given as Lucifer in the KJV, but in the RSV and NIV they move to an 'explanation' (son of dawn - both imply light, of course, but it is unfortunate that they have so much trouble)
---Peter9556 on 6/12/13


The serpent didn't look grotesque or threatening. He pleased, dazzled the eye. He was "charming"! God making him crawl on his belly implies he was upright before that.

...The Lord GOD [says], you [had it all], full of wisdom, & perfect in beauty. You [were] in Eden the garden of God, every precious stone [covered you], the sardius, topaz, diamond, beryl, onyx, & jasper, the sapphire, emerald, the carbuncle, & gold: the [excellence] of your [drums] & of your pipes was [put in you] the day you were made. You're the [archangel that's over all], & I have set you so...Your heart was [prideful] because of your beauty, you've corrupted your wisdom by reason of your brightness..." (Ezk. 28:13-14, 17)
---Leon on 6/1/13


Amen marks, there is only one satan but he has his henchman which are many. Only one angel was kicked out of heaven but he carried many with him. he is capable of transforming himself to represent other visible things. He is also invisable as he can get into choir at church, attack the bible like he already has seeing all the versions out today. He will infiltrate the church and can do much damage. We just have to pray and pray.
---shira4368 on 6/1/13


.... nothing from scripture, just made-up lies about other posters and lying doctrine from men.

---Follower_of_Christ on 3/9/13

No disagreement here. But, respond beyond signs of what you are seeing.
Consider the silent readers of these post....that never post.
Post for these "sheep" who have "ears" and "eyes". Not for the blind that never will see. Eze34:11 For thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
Eze 34:12
As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered, so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.
---Trav on 5/31/13


"Satan in Judaism is a very different beast than satan in popular culture (pun intended)

The snake in the garden of Eden is identified as the personification of the "Yetzerh Harah" (Bad/evil will/desires/inclination) by the midrashim."

Google this: judaism_stackexchange_com-questions-9243


Matthew 15:18_19 "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man..."

Matthew 4:4 "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

James 1:14 "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed."
---Nana on 5/28/13




Nikki, let me help you on what I meant. Satan is the devil. Satan has the ability to transform himself into an angel of light. He has that ability. He is a fallen angel, he is not the light. Jesus Christ is the Light. He transformed himself into a serpent. He is not a serpent, he is a fallen angel who appears for the first time before the fall of man. His rebellion had accured sometime after (Gen. 1:31 (when everything in creation was good, but before 3:1). Satan use to be one of the highest angels. For a better word, Satan manifested himself as a serpent "snake" John identified this creature as Satan (Rev. 12:9: 20:2) and so did Paul (2 Cor. 11:3).
---Mark_V. on 5/27/13


MarkV you said// Satan transforms himself into an angel of light, so he transformed himself into a serpent.

The devil was not a serpent, he is a fallen angel.//

Don't you have it backwards?
Didn't God create satan as a angel of light who took over the snake's body.

Isn't devil and satan interchangeable words?

Please explain?
---Nikki on 5/26/13


Satan transforms himself into an angel of light, so he transformed himself into a serpent. The devil was not a serpent, he is a fallen angel. When God cursed the literal serpent above all livestock and above all the beast of the field and to crawl on his belly and eat dust, indicates the serpent did not crawl on its belly before the curse. We are not told if it flew, crawled on its tail, etc but now he would crawl on its belling eating dust.
---Mark_V. on 5/20/13


According to the Bible, the serpent was the most cunning of the all the animals that the Lord God has made. Genesis 3:1

Satan was the brightness, and the highest Angel God made as well.

No wonder satan took over the serpent body.

Scientists states there are spots in the snake's body in which legs are to grow and come out of the body. Which proves the account of the Bible. Gen 3:14
---Nikki on 5/15/13


Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent(Gr. ophis), called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world ...
Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning ...
Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent (Gr. ophis) in the wilderness ...
Num 21:9 And Moses made a serpent (Hbr. nachash) of brass, and put it upon a pole ...
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent (nachash) was more subtil than any beast of the field ...
Satan is/was quite possibly a seraph (Num 21:8).
---micha9344 on 5/14/13




Satan was not the serpent. He used the serpent as a prop to beguile Eve. The serpent was a beautiful, shimmering, flying creature before God cursed it and made it a snake. Today, it is immortalized as the winged snake on a stick the medical profession uses in reference to the cure prescribed by Moses in the wilderness.



---jerry6593 on 5/14/13


Thanks Peter!
---Legends on 5/13/13


Legends: Adrian might have got the serpent meaning 'bright and shining one' as an error from 'Lucifer' which is Latin, I think for 'bright', but I had not heard an equivalent in Hebrew for the serpent.

I do not know for the original name for satan
---Peter9556 on 5/12/13


(Serpent in the hebrew ment bright and shining one)/Adrian on 3/11/13

Adrian, where did you find evidence for this translation. Can you please give a source to look this up.

(Eve said the serpent beguiled me and I did eat...
MEANING...
She accepted the fruit of his loins and then turned and gave also to adam.
SO...
There was two conceptions. one by satan "Cain" and one by Adam "Abel") /Also Adrian on 3/11/13

Is Adam... Abel? Satan... Cain?
HELP!
---Legends on 5/8/13


Serpent in the hebrew ment bright and shining one. Eve said the serpent beguiled (wholly seduced ) me and I did eat (partake) meaning she accepted the fruit of his loins and then turned and gave also to adam so there was two conceptions. one by satan (Cain) and one by Adam (Abel) The sons of God then took the daughters of men just as Satan did with Eve and procreated with the to try to remove the line that jesus would be born through later on.
---Adrian on 3/11/13


What did the serpent, who deceived Eve, look like before God made him to crawl on his belly?-Leon on 8/2/12

A dragon.
---micha9344 on 3/11/13


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---Jed on 3/10/13
Is this really the first time you are hearing these terms used to discribe the two parties?

This may be something worth your time to look into, instea dof me telling you about it. It will give you a chance to know the politiclaphilosophy of each party better
---francis on 3/11/13


I am a very politically involved person and I have never heard members of either party refer to themselves as either doves or hawks. Where have you heard this, Francis?
---Jed on 3/10/13


---Mark_V. on 3/10/13

In American politics, there are two dominant groups, two dominant ideas. One group identify themselves as DOVES, the Other as HAWKS.

Of the two, the one which is warlike are the HAWKS:

Psalms 140:2 continually are they gathered together for war. They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent,

Now what venom did I bring: and before you answer, please think, if what you are going to say what God commanded, think again. Because of I quote a command from God, then it is from God
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

I also realize that no one knows what this serpent looked like with limbs, so the blog is DOA.
---francis on 3/10/13


francis, my response to you was because you suggested Republicans serpents and exclude yourself as one. Because it is you who brought the venon around. And supported by other pharisees on line.
I know my enemies. Many of those I disagree with. They don't like to be told they are wrong. But as I told Leon, I am here to support the Sovereignty of God, against those who strip God of His Divine nature, character and attributes.
---Mark_V. on 3/10/13


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The serpent, the devil, dragon, father of lies, the god of this world, prince of the world, and spirit of disobedience, these all describe Satan.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Satan, who is spirit, can appear as anything.

The serpent was cursed by God for being the vessel that deceived Eve, however Genesis 3:15 continues with the first prophecy of the Lord Jesus who will crush Satan at his return to earth Rom 16:20
---Follower_of_Christ on 3/9/13


francis is a present day Pharisee who studies the Law, and believes if he follows the law, and really only one law is important to him, saturday sabbath, it will save him.

interesting how much hate here on christianet when I see an outright lie like this posted about another person and how often those without Gods Truth will post lies about someone else HERE because they don't have any any relevant scripture to post.

The blog used to ask for "christ-like" answers (that is no longer asked) seems anything goes and most only want to post junk to eat up the 75 posts per topic to make sure no truth about God gets posted, nothing from scripture, just made-up lies about other posters and lying doctrine from men.
---Follower_of_Christ on 3/9/13


francis is a present day Pharisee who studies the Law, and believes if he follows the law, and really only one law is important to him, saturday sabbath, it will save him.
---Mark_V. on 3/6/13

You know that what you posted is not true at all.

What exactly does that remind me of:

Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

A LYING SERPENT

Psalms 58:3 they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear
---francis on 3/9/13


God cursed the serpent,
1. He was cursed more then all cattle.
2. More than every beast of the field.
3. On its belly it would go.
4. it was to eat dust all the days of his life. The was the physical serpent.
The curse on the spiritual serpent.
1. I will put enmity between you and the woman.
2. And between your seed and her Seed.
3. I shall bruise you head
4. and you shall bruise His heel.
So today we should have literal serpents crawling, and the spiritual serpent would bruise the heel of Christ. But Christ bruised his head.
---Mark_V. on 3/7/13


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The serpent is first a moral term. When it was cursed, it became a physical description.

A snake in the grass is still a moral term describing a certain kind of person.

It's possible to assume that the creature that became what we know to be a snake had once walked upright before it was cursed.
---jan4378 on 3/6/13


Leon, what you call legalism matches very well with what francis teaches. Now that is legalism. When someone suggest not to add or take away from the Word of God, it is not legalism. If it was then many in Scripture are legalist. They were not legalist, they were giving warnings on what would happen if a person added or took away from the Word of God.
francis is a present day Pharisee who studies the Law, and believes if he follows the law, and really only one law is important to him, saturday sabbath, it will save him. But external actions mean nothing to God, what really means something to God is what is inside the person, his heart.
---Mark_V. on 3/6/13


francis, you now say,
"Psalms 58:4 Their poison [is] like the poison of a serpent: [they are] like the deaf adder [that] stoppeth her ear, Psalms 140:3 They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent, adders' poison [is] under their lips. Selah"
That is exactly what you are doing. speading venom like a serpent. You do your best to tempt others with your legalism. The part you promote is the adherence to the letter of the law to the exclusion of the Spirit of the Law. At the core, this is a denial of the gospel.
---Mark_V. on 3/5/13


FYI, in the essentials of the Christian faith Legalism is the opposite of Antinomianism. Whereas antinomianism denies the significance of law, legalism exalts law above grace. The legalist of Jesus day were the Pharisees, and Jesus reserved His strongest criticism for them. The Pharisees believed that due to their status as children of Abraham and to their scrupolous adherence to the law, they were the children of God. At the core, this was a denial of the gospel.
A corollary article of legalism is the adherence to the letter of the law to the exclusion of the Spirit of the law.
---Mark_V. on 3/3/13


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FYI: LEGALISM, in Christian theology, refers to one's over-emphasis on the conduct of others, usually implying allegations of misguided information of actions. Institutionalized legalism restricts free choice.

Legalist are dogmatic about their views of right & wrong. If other's views fall outside the rigid opinions of a legalist, in his mind, it can't be right (has missed the "mark") so he will doggedly criticized what he doesn't agree with and/or understand.

Many legalistic Christians today mistakenly demand unqualified adherence to their own biblical interpretations. Legalism fails to accomplish God's purposes because it is outward performance instead of an inward change.
---Leon on 3/2/13


francis, why do you associate republicans with the serpent?
---shira4368 on 3/2/13
Richard nixon " not a crook"
Ronald regean " iran COntra"
G W Bush 1 " CIA gave to Iraq military weapons to initiate a fight with Iran"
G W Bush 11" iraq has WMD and help Ben Ladin"


Psalms 58:4 Their poison [is] like the poison of a serpent: [they are] like the deaf adder [that] stoppeth her ear,

Psalms 140:3 They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent, adders' poison [is] under their lips. Selah.
---francis on 3/2/13


francis, why do you associate republicans with the serpent? do you think democrats are not the serpent?? the ones I see in Washington are truly serpents. this week our president was in a meeting with some and one guy came out and said our president was like a raging lunatic. he is arrogant, a liar and a deceiver. him and his family have wasted millions on pleasure trips and vacation after vacation. many times instead of millions for the both of them, it doubles when they go on separate trips. what a shame they waste so much money and cut the citizens benefits. God is watching.
---shira4368 on 3/2/13


Leon, again, no human being has seen satan. He is spirit and no one can see a spirit because it is invisible. God knows what he looks like because He created him. And God does tell us what he looks like, because we are unable to see him, period. What Eve saw was a serpent we are told.
---Mark_V. on 3/2/13


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Terry, you say,

"So, the devil came into Eve before Adam and
Eve had two sons by different fathers"


First, the serpent deceived Eve, never deceived Adam.
Second, Eve did not have two sons by different fathers.
Third. The serpent was a literal serpent. Not a spirit. She could see the serpent with her own physical eyes.
Forth, How could Adam and Eve have two sons by different fathers? If they came from different fathers then Adam could not be the father. Your answer was real bad.
---Mark_V. on 3/2/13


Cain is the son of the evil one. Cain is not in Adam's genealogy. So, the devil came into Eve before Adam and
Eve had two sons by different fathers. He is not a physical snake but literal.
---Terry_Langley on 3/2/13


How many CN bloggers believe Eve was tempted & deceived by a spirit in the Garden? At least one person here does. Genesis 3 appears to say otherwise.
---Leon on 3/1/13


"...Thus saith the Lord GOD, Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God, every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth, and I have set thee so...Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee..." (Ezk. 28:13-4, 17)
---Leon on 3/1/13


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Leon, no one who is human knows what satan looked like before his fall, and no one knows what he looks like after the fall. He is spirit and no one can see a spirit with the exception of one guy here on line. God only knows what he literally looks like.
---Mark_V. on 2/28/13


the serpent is an angel of light. he is beautiful, appealing, charismatic, cunning, deceiving and master of all the above but the end is death.
---shira4368 on 2/26/13


I think it's reasonable to say the serpent didn't appear to be grotesque nor threatening in any way. He was pleasing to the eye. His appearance was "charming". Since God did make him to crawl on his belly, that implies he was upright (had the ability to somehow be vertical) before that.
---Leon on 2/26/13


The serpent is Satan.

Revelation 12:7-9
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
---Follower_of_Christ on 10/20/12


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The serpent was the most intelligent creature of all, and perhaps the most beautiful. It may have had wings and stood upright. Besides man, the ass, the serpent, and the eagle, were first to speak in the Bible.....The serpent becomes a symbol for treachery and sin. "Ye serpents, Ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell"? [Mt. 23:33]
---pat on 10/17/12


Just a thought, serpant twists, turns, but with Father God, no shadow of turning. In Him, Him in us, also no shadow of turning. yet He makes, or has made, the crooked straight.
---Chria on 8/10/12


In Mat 23:33, Christ called the scribes and Pharisees.
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Did they look like serpents and vipers?
No, right! Im sure they looked like good clean honest men.
Working for the good of God! Just like many of us, today!

Maybe he just looked like an angel.
In Job 1:6, the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. Do you think the son of God said whats he doing here?
Did they even know?

Seem to me serpents chould be anywhere.
Maybe even in are mirror.

I dont think Eve was blonde
Sorry, I has too!
Peace!
---TheSeg on 8/9/12


//Like your average republican

Psalms 140:3 They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent, adders' poison is under their lips. Selah.
---francis on 8/3/12//

Like your average democrat

Psalms 140:3 They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent, adders' poison is under their lips. Selah

Wow it works both ways. The point is that any politican or person (especially leaders, Dan Cathy) who stands for anything will be taken out of context, lied about, used for the opposite purpose, etc. Don't believe me Debbie S. the head of the democratic party admitted it when questioned about it during Romney's "I love to fire people" speech.
---Scott1 on 8/9/12


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Q)What did serpent look like before God made him crawl on his belly?
A)NOT MOVED BY HIS BELLY!
The symbolism of a snake being transported by it's belly(which snakes do by nature)carries a message which is highly appropriate and contextual in response to the sinful actions of Adam and his wife.
They were MOVED BY THEIR BELLIES to disobey God. God gave mankind an ongoing visual example in snakes to remind us not to be MOVED BY OUR APPETITES out of God's will.
Some Examples:
-Israel's rebellion and grumbling in the wilderness of sin was result of being MOVED BY THEIR BELLIES.
-Esau, MOVED BY HIS BELLY to sell birthright.
-After 40 days without food, Jesus was tempted thru hunger to MOVE OPPOSITE GOD'S WILL.
Never MOVED!
---Legends on 8/6/12


Like your average republican

Psalms 140:3 They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent, adders' poison is under their lips. Selah.
---francis on 8/3/12

boing, fwip...

your first quip was fine on its own. as i am sure it was funny to you, but to add holy scripture it that has deep meaning show that you indeed may qualify for "they" in that verse.

Selah.

btw-i am apolitical. i think our two party system of govt is a two headed adder.
---aka on 8/4/12


"What did the serpent, who deceived Eve, look like before God made him to crawl on his belly?"-Leon on 8/2/12
--Clean--
---micha9344 on 8/4/12


What did the serpent, who deceived Eve, look like before God made him to crawl on his belly?
---Leon on 8/2/12

Like your average republican

Psalms 140:3 They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent, adders' poison is under their lips. Selah.
---francis on 8/3/12


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Good question!
Some people think that serpents could fly, breathe fire and were really beautiful. This could be the origin of all the dragon mythology
Satan is called many names (Satan means Adversary), including dragon and father of lies
When God renews the earth, we shall see for ourselves how serpents were created
---Fleur on 8/3/12


The serpent has many names and descriptions:

devil and satan 1 John 3:8 Rev 12:9 20:13

father of lies John 8:44

Also:
king of Tyre, tempter, wicked one, ruler of darkness, ruler of demons, ruler of the world, god of this world, prince of the power of air, roaring lion, lawless one, evil one

the serpent was the enemy in the garden and is the enemy today 2 Corin 11:3

The serpent is Lucifer prior to his fall who was once the light bringer and now the adversary of God 1 Peter 5:8


Isaiah 14:12
Ezekiel 28:12-17

~humble follower of the Rock and lover of The Eternals truth (KJV) Matt 16:18, Corin 10:4, 2 Thess 2:10 1 Pet 2:21
---Follower_of_Christ on 8/3/12


Leon, Obviously he looked like Godzilla!
This is another Leonism!
---1st_cliff on 8/3/12


Serpent just part of story. Not necessary to wonder about before story.
---Hamid on 8/3/12


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