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What's The Importance Of Church

I don't think God can be found only by going to church...
How necessary is it to belong to a specific church? God is in our hearts, right?

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As a saint, you are the temple of God (YA) Is your church "them"? 2Cor6:15-18 "And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God, as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you,And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
---Marc on 10/23/12


Steven G, you say that all denomination are creations of Satan, but it is man like you that have divided the Church. You say,
"Satan has succeeded into dividing the "christians" up into their own cults each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible."
It is people like you who have succeeded into dividing those who do not understand, because genuine Christians are not divided. Nothing or no one can divide true believers in Christ.
"... so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ..." (1 Cor. 1:7-9).
---Mark_V. on 10/23/12


Right! We don't find God. He finds us. I need to correct you on that. He comes a looking for us. In todays world with satan so busy working overtime, triple time, he has many churches and preachers. Do everything by the leading of the Person of the Holy Spirit. PLEASE!
---pat on 10/22/12


All worldly denominational churches (dchurch) are a creation of Satan.

Satan has succeeded into dividing the "christians" up into their own cults each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible.

The meaning of "church" is a lot different today than it was 2,000 years ago. The dchurch is nothing but a building having assets (This is confirmed when you hear, "Did you go to church today?" "I didn't see you at church today.") and is owned by the government (IRS: "you do what we tell you or we'll revoke your nonprofit status.").

The true church is people - who believe. Fellowship is anywhere two or more are gathered in Jesus' name.
---Steveng on 9/30/12


Elena, you are always in my prayers. I pray for everyone on line that God's Spirit opens doors, paths, and heals them, and for the Truth of Scripture, but I also have a special group of people I pray for, mainly woman, because man hardly ever ask for prayer. Darline is in my heart always, and Mary, Trish, and a few others who are having a lot of trouble as we get older or sick. Here is the most wonderful thing that happened to us Elena when we were born of the Spirit, we can now go streight to God through Jesus Christ, and worship Him in spirit and Truth because we are born of the Spirit. We could never do that before our rebirth. We are half way there, but not all there yet till the Second Coming. Peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 9/30/12




,,,Hello,bro.Mark,praise God,for finally,could get to see this whole part you left for see about home church,please know oh!my God,you know I just left a church,.don't every want no more confussion,the words says where there is confussion,every evil work..believe.,I know that one by heart, thankyou bro.Mark...thankyou, we were few where I left,it did not go good n the end. My enemy is Cancer, that why I .I need a really spirit lead by the lord,bible. Built up. saturated heart & Soul mind made up,people who can for god sake get me a prayer through, I need God more & more, you have done a good work..thankyou, please pray for me bro.Mark find right church.bless you,in jesus name.
---ELENA on 9/29/12


Elena, I use to have a home Church for over ten years. But our home church was run by Church leaders and pastors from our congregation. Whats bad about home churches is when just anyone with idea's teach in the home. Charles Russell started the Jehovah Witnesses from his own home Church. Mormons from John Smith own teachings, Muslims from Muhammah teachings, SDA's by EG White who got hit in the head and had visions. The Roman Catholic not by Peter but by Constantine who also had a vision and became the new head of the Roman Catholic Church. The more visions from individual the more different denominations, and the Church becomes more apostate. Everyone with their own idea's.
---Mark_V. on 9/29/12


John 21:16 He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

church is where sheep go to be fed

Matthew 4:21... mending their nets, and he called them.

church is where fishers of men go to mend their nets

Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

this is where God places those whom he are saving
---francis on 9/28/12


Steven, you said,
"Most so-called christians deny the benefits of a home church because they do not understand how it works"

It is you who does not know how they work. Who teaches in your home church? You? an online computer, the two prophets that talk to you without speaking? If it's you are someone like you, then do not call it a Church, just call it a meeting of people who hate all denominations. Because in order to have a Church it has to have true believers. And no believer in Christ bashes other believers. And since no one really can see the heart of others whether they are saved or not, you judge unrighteously.
The children of God come from every denomination, or nondenomination. Only God knows who are His.
---Mark_V. on 9/28/12


Hello,listen :) this ELENA,recently,been hear about home church' wud be great! I had brought this idea to some friends of mine ,they are Christians,still wait fortheir answer, now it would be great for me.Really would love if that opportunity,arise ... having this illness, has caused some issue for this ...is not always, people expect not this, ...rather be n a small group,don't have to be explain, not into the glitz n bling, I am very simple person, this is very humbling but,not defeat,I am surviving 'n still got alot to be thankfull, not about form or fashion.
---ELENA on 9/27/12




StevenG: Do you have a point? You made some sort of statement to the effect that my church answered to a hierarchy above my church's leadership. I corrected you.

Of course the Holy Spirit knows my church, as He knows all the other churches in the world.
---Trish on 8/15/12


can't you see that both sides are systematically stripping us of our money, land, good food...all rights?

it has been going on long enough for you to see.
---aka on 8/15/12


Steven, the Holy Spirit also knows how you bash the Church which carries Jesus Christ name. He knows what you say and do. He knows that you do not edify the Church. But speak against the Church that Jesus build. The gathering of believers, the called, the body of Christ, the assembly of believers.
---Mark_V. on 8/16/12


Trish: "StevenG: You know nothing about my church. "

The Holy Spirit does.
---Steveng on 8/15/12


Francis I have to disagree with you.
---Scott1 on 8/10/12

It is all good and well to disagree, but read the story in 2 Kings 6, would they have eaten their own son if they had WIC?
Also read Deuteronomy 15:
1 Corinthians 16:3

Most important, the idea that a hand up causes depenancy is a republican lie. In America, there is a generation called " the greatest generation." they became great because of a LIBERAL G I bill which allowed many fo themt o go to college

Not a hand out, but a hand up
---francis on 8/10/12


Scott: problem is that deregulation during a Republican presidency has allowed the outsourcing of too many jobs. For those who have lost their jobs to China, once unemployment runs out, they need help, and can't find work. Yet, many of those will be turned away by Welfare.
---Trish on 8/10/12


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For most professing christian republicans, issues like abortion are merely political, divisive and vote-getting issues.
When 1 in 4 of Americas children are living in poverty, hundreds of thousands are homeless and when America leads the industrialized world in the number of divorces, the number of murders and the number of school dropouts, one must ask, where are the pro-life republicans?

Indeed, professing christian republicans are the biggest the supporters of war and global militarization. And since WII, professing christian republicans have supported Americas killing sprees across the world in which tens of millions men, women and children have been killed.

Is that the position of people who claim to be pro-life?
---Allan on 8/10/12


//They have very LIBERALY provided social services such as WIC, low income housing, food stamps, SS, unemployment insurance, Medicaid, medicare and many other ENTITLEMENTS which give people hope:// Francis

Francis I have to disagree with you. Maybe I am an idealist but those things do not provide hope they only provide dependence and marginality. We are called to be more than conquers. The other point is what happens when our ability to provide entitlments collapses like Greece, California, and Spain. Disclosure - I did use unemployment for a year and it did allow me to keep my house so entitlements are good until it becomes a dependence.
---Scott1 on 8/10/12


2 Kings 6:25 And there was a great famine in Samaria:
2 Kings 6:28 And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him:

Well informed christians know that abortion is a choice people make when they feel that they have no hope. It is for this reason that I support the democratic party.
They have very LIBERALY provided social services such as WIC, low income housing, food stamps, SS, unemployment insurance, Medicaid, medicare and many other ENTITLEMENTS whiich give people hope:

Job 5:16 So the poor hath hope, and iniquity stoppeth her mouth.
---francis on 8/10/12


So Trish, you support same-sex marriage then?
---Jed on 8/10/12


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Trish -
I do agree with you on most christian points and that you keep politics and church separate.
Whenever people talk about the opposite party people always go to the extreme. Saddam was stockpilling weapons of mass destruction in 2002 he used them on his on people in 1992 wiping out entire villages. As far as healthcare goes Obama lied about the price tag and many other issues. Most issues in Obamacare are good and republicans agree with 50% or more of it but it was by backdoor policies and midnight deals. Something Obama said he would stop. The senate controlled by the dems still have not proposed a budget in three years. While Bush was in office the dems did exactly the same thing that the republicans are doing now.
---Scott1 on 8/10/12


Lizzy, It's very important, even critical, to belong to a specific church, that being the Body of Christ, His church. While one may come to know God in many different "churches"/buildings, that is not His church. One knows him personally and is known by Him personally. That can happen any time, any place(physical setting) He wills. The most important place is the heart and mind, regardless of OUTward setting. trust in Him, He is Spirit, not a building, The only building that contains Him is His Body, Christ in us, the Hope of glory
---Chria on 8/10/12


trey: There are many issues that the Democratic party supports, not just abortion. Abortion is the one issue I don't agree with, but I support every other issue the Democratic party supports. I cannot support any of the issues the Republican party supports, except for the abortion issue.

I ask this of the Christians who are Republican. How can a Christian support the party which is willing to send so many of our innocent soldiers and Marines to a war based totally on lies and greed for oil? So many innocent lives were lost. How can a Christian support a party that is willing to give corporate welfare to millionaires, but unwilling to provide healthcare to people who would die without it?

There's little difference.
---Trish on 8/9/12


Hi Trish, I would like to ask you, and I do not mean it mean spirited in the least. I simply would like to know how a Christian can support the Democratic Party knowing that they are Pro-Choice (Pro Abortion)? Are you Pro Choice?
---trey on 8/9/12


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StevenG: You know nothing about my church. We are self-governing. We do not answer to the hierarchy of a governing body. Our governing body is our elder board, which is comprised of members who serve in various ministries in my church. All of our money in our offering plate stays in our church's ministries.

Our church does maintain tax exempt status. One huge way it is achieved is that our pastor does not preach any, zero politics from the pulpit. There is no area of our church where that rule is broken. It is known that I am a Democrat, and nobody has made any negative comment to me about that, unlike the people here.
---Trish on 8/9/12


All churches who have non-profit status is a denominational church - even your so-called nondenominational churches. Any denominational church having a building, a budget, and a non-profit status is a denominational church. Any church having a non-profit status must obey the government in order to keep their non-profit status or else if they don't they have their non-profit status revoked.

Any small group meetings (even away from the main building) must still obey the rituals, traditions ways of living and bible interpretations of the main denominational hierarchy.
---Steveng on 8/9/12


Christians in a home church are accountable to one another, they meet one another on a daily basis, they grow more intimate with one another and to God.
---Steveng on 8/8/12

There are a few hundred assumptions you are making in this statement.

Intimacy with people can only be achieved if true honesty and humility are present.

In my life, few people (including myself) have been open and willing enough to be intimate in a group setting. Most people shy away from it. Just look at these blogs and how much personal information do you read?

Accountability and intimacy is only formed in VERY small groups, 1-4 people maximum.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/9/12


StevenG: A home church is limited in how they can minister to the outside community. My church is nondenominational. We have a food bank in two communities now. We also have a daycare center for children of working parents. This is open to the community.

This month the congregation is collecting money to put together backpacks with all the school supplies the school age children in needy families, including the local homeless shelter.

Finally, we have several small groups that meet during the week in order to pray and worship together.
---Trish on 8/8/12


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Most so-called christians deny the benefits of a home church because they do not understand how it works. // i understand too well.

//They covet their denominational church.// not me.

// It's such a pity because they are missing out on the true nature of maturing in the ways of God. // every denomination would say that about home churches

i would rather gather with three or four people that do not trifle. we build a porch for scary ms. Johnson...we clean out grumpy, ole grady's garage...we serve individuals as to what they need. then, we eat a few sandwiches together, read some scripture, and then go home to our families.
---aka on 8/8/12


Most so-called christians deny the benefits of a home church because they do not understand how it works. They covet their denominational church. It's such a pity because they are missing out on the true nature of maturing in the ways of God.

Do an online KJV bible search for the words "one another", "each other", "encour", and "comfort" to learn the ways of a home church having fewer than 12 people. Christians in a home church are accountable to one another, they meet one another on a daily basis, they grow more intimate with one another and to God.

Anyone can bring together a small group of family and friends to meet in a home daily.
---Steveng on 8/8/12


yes, every church has its tares, i agree with cluny. home church "pastors" are the worst abusers of scripture besides televanalists.
---aka on 8/8/12


\\Many, if not ALL, of today's Churches are filled with "Satanic Plants" (false, deceiving 'christians') and there are many FALSE PASTORS, PROPHETS and TEACHERS (as per II PETER 2:1-3). Anymore, it's a better idea to do home-Church, than not, in most cases.\\

And you will NEVER find these bad things in a home church, now will you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/8/12


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Many people say they give to the church, to charities, to the government, it's their responsibility to help the poor and needy. Even many so-called christians say, "it's the church's responsibility to help the poor and needy, That's why I give to the church."

God wants his people to get involved personally - from the heart - in helping the poor and needy instead of relying on charities, churches and the government. That's where God will judge a person - from the heart having genuine love for others.

In these end times, genuine love has practically evaporated from the face of this world.
---Steveng on 8/7/12


Lizzy, Yes, (if you're a true Christian), then, GOD is in your heart. The Bible does admonish to "not forsake the assemblying of yourselves together" (HEBREWS 10:25). But, YAHUSHUA (JESUS) also says in the Scriptures that "where 2 or 3 are gathered together in My Name, there I Am in the midst of them." That means we can also gather with a small group of Believers AT HOME. Many, if not ALL, of today's Churches are filled with "Satanic Plants" (false, deceiving 'christians') and there are many FALSE PASTORS, PROPHETS and TEACHERS (as per II PETER 2:1-3). Anymore, it's a better idea to do home-Church, than not, in most cases.
---Gordon on 8/7/12


Steveng: Amen to your thoughts about the makings of a good church. I am blessed with a loving church family that helps the poor, and sick, both in and out of our congregation.
---Trish on 8/7/12


The meaning of church is completely different today than it was two thousand years ago.

Statements and a question made by today's so-called christians:

Did you go to church today?

Our church is really active.

Our church has a great pastor.

Our church has recreational activities.

Our church has a great Christmas (or Easter) show.

The new church I belong to is a lot better than the one before.

After five years, I finally found a church I'm comfortable with.

The true church of God is not a building. The true church of God is people - christians having genuine love for God and for others who meet daily.
---Steveng on 8/6/12


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Lizzy, as christians we are instructed not to forsake the assembling of the saints (Hebrews 10:25). Let me ask you a couple questions:

1. Do you believe that Christ knew what he was doing when he set up the church?

2. Do you think if the Church were not important Christ would have taken the time to set it up?

I ask you these two questions in Christian love. Hope you don't take it wrong. I'm just trying to get you to think about it. When I was younger I didn't go to church for years. Now I regret missing out on the worship, the doctrine, the love, the singing and the prayers.

Lord bless you.
---trey on 8/6/12


mark, maybe i will restate...i have all (available to me) that i can withstand. iow, there are plenty here.
---aka on 8/6/12


//I don't think God can be found only by going to church//
Absolutely true because church is made to lift you up and "feed you" so that you can give out others. It is very necessary to belong to a specific church because of vision and of ability to serve that church body. I am not saying you only go to a specific church to the point of that church or denomination becoming like god because then you lose some of the big picture. Being dedicated to a specific church allows you to be a producer and not just a consumer of church.
---Scott1 on 8/6/12


i live in the bible belt. i have had all that i can stand.
---aka on 8/5/12

I too live in the Bible Belt (North Carolina) but I do not share your viewpoint.

As students of The Book, we know about tares, about false teachers, about false prophets, about false spirits, and about false Christs.

If we choose to take our sight off Jesus, then we will see all the junk around us, including the junk in our churches.

If we keep our sight on Jesus, then we will do all we can for Him, including blessing others in our churches. When we encourage other believers around us, our churches will get better because Christ will be seen in our midst and He will change the lives around us.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/6/12


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aka: I'm so sorry you have not experienced a truly loving church family. I wish you lived near me. If you did, I would introduce you to the most loving and helpful church family one could ever be a part of. In addition to our food bank, we have women in our congregation who help people in their homes. I will pray that God would lead you to such a church.

To me, church is not a building, but a family. God uses His people to be His hands and feet.
---Trish on 8/6/12


//mostly they don't do what God teaches.// shira,

you said it whether you meant to or not...selah.

do u think there is only one church that i went to? one was a bible-believing, KJV only independent baptist church. another was a "spirit-filled" bapticost or pentabaptist church..idk.

i live in the bible belt. i have had all that i can stand.

churches here are like sweet potatoes. everybody here claims how good they are, but no matter how well prepared that they are, i just can't swallow them.

(i will continue when it flips)
---aka on 8/5/12


I wish you could have heard today's sermon, Lizzy.

It was about the Transfiguration of Christ, and how we participate in it by partaking in the Eucharist, which is an act of the CHURCH--not of individuals.

You are reflecting how American rugged individualism has infected American Protestantism. "Me and God [note the order] is all that I need. I can get saved all my myself, and I don't need the Church," despite St. Paul's searching question, "Can any part of the Body say to another, 'I have no need of thee'?"

As an ancient preacher put it, "Do not tear, do not scatter Christ's Body by refusing to be at Church."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/5/12


Aka you are definitely going to the wrong church. I wasn't telling my opinion but what Christians are suppose to do. I didn't say everyone does what God says but mostly they don't do what God teaches. I am sorry for your predictiment. I will pray for God to somehow help you with your burdens. If you were close to me I would surely pick you and your children up and take you to church. God knows your problems and I beg you to put it in Gods hands.
---Shira4368 on 8/5/12


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we are to bear one anothers burdens. ---shira4368 on 8/4/12

that's ironic. my burden is that i am a single parent with three young ones and i have no help...little money...i am exhausted.

the only time that someone "who is bearing my burden" talks to me is when we could make it to church.

//show me a christian who never goes to church and I will show you a spritually dead person.// shira

how would you know if i am spiritually dead or not. you have one eye in the mirror and one eye on the building while you judge me and others like me.

help me get to church and i will show you a building full of open white-washed sepulchers starting with the person behind the pulpit.
---aka on 8/5/12


The meaning of church is completely different today than it was two thousand years ago.

Denominational churches is a creation of Satan. He has had two thousand years to infiltrate the church and divide it up into worldly denominational churches each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living,and interpretations of the bible. The great delusion of the end times is that christians who call themselves christians are not. Genuine love has practically evaporated from the earth.

As for fellowship/meeting, it is written that where two or more are gathered in Jesus' name, whether at a home, a park, on the street corner, or at Starbucks.
---Steveng on 8/5/12


2Ti 1:15 . This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me

By the time Paul, our apostle, had come to the end of his ministry to the nations, apostasy had begun. His Gospel, that he received from the glorified Christ, had run its course, and those who were elect and chosen for the Body of Christ came out of that apostasy.

Today is no different. The sects or denominations(G139 hairesis or heresies), are mongrel forms of the faith. God uses them to draw His elect out of the world. They are a tool of God, though the Adversary has made great use of them.

All who join the sects should abide by the rules set down, and submit to its rulers, until such time as God leads them out.
---Phil on 8/5/12


\\Rev 14:12 the saints: they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. \\

However, the SDA does NOT keep all the commandments of God, by their own admission.

They pick and choose.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/5/12


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"Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account." (in Hebrews 13:17) So, God has leaders whom He trusts because they are qualified to rule us > "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) See 1 Timothy 3:1-10 about who is qualified just to be considered to "take care of the church of God".

And "exhort one another daily, while it is called 'Today,' lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin." (in Hebrews 3:13) God's love "in our hearts" (Romans 5:5) makes us honest and obedient so we succeed in this and all the Bible commands and means.
---willie_c: on 8/4/12


How necessary is it to belong to a specific church?
---Lizzy on 8/4/12
Acts 2:47 And the Lord added to THE CHURCH daily such as should be saved.

Belong to A CHURCH is not the same as belonging to THE CHURCH.

1 Cor 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Belonging to A BODY is not the same as belonging to THE BODY of CHRIST

There is ONE CHURCH, ONE BODY:
Rev 12:17 the remnant of her seed, they which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 14:12 the saints: they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

We all should be among the saints, which keeps the commandments of God and have the faith, or testimony of Jesus.
---francis on 8/4/12


While you are correct in that God is not found by only going to a church, but, (other shoe about to drop) there are at least three factors that make church attendance important: 1. For joint worship of the Lord: 2. For Christian education, (Sunday School) and 3. For fellowship. This is really important if you had a "bad hair week", there's nothing like having fellow Christians to encourage and support you when you are down.

There are more valid reasons for attending a church, but I only have a few words left on this blog.
---wivv on 8/4/12


How necessary is it to belong to a specific church? God is in our hearts, right?
---Lizzy on 8/4/12

By specific church do you mean denomination?

If so, very important

1: Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

People who told same doctrinal beliefs form a denomination. If people have different beliefs they will not be able to get alone

2: Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive,

Going from one denomination to another means that you are not grounded in truth, you just go whereever the wind blows
---francis on 8/4/12


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If you like services may help you live better.
---Hamid on 8/4/12


Buildings/temples/worship centers are all part of satan's big lie, they are all part of the false devotion.

---more_excellent_way on 8/4/12


show me a christian who never goes to church and I will show you a spritually dead person. we are to assemble ourselves together and support each other in prayer. we are to bear one anothers burdens.
---shira4368 on 8/4/12


Cluny, Where is God if not in our hearts? Is he maybe far away and high on a cloud then?? Where is He? Thank you for the answer.
---Lizzy on 8/4/12


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gathering with your brothers and sisters is important. (church)

where you gather is not. (buildings called churches)
---aka on 8/4/12


In the Holy Gospels, Christ was usually found in the midst of His disciples.

Christ DIED for the Church.

The church is His Bride and His body

YOU may think that the Church is not important, but Jesus disagrees with you.

And God is NOT in our hearts in the usual run of things, so your assumption is wrong, too.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/4/12


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