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\\Cluny, what you really mean is what you believe he told the Catholics and your denomination.\\

Just the Orthodox.

And I KNOW that God didn't tell your denomination anything--except He is using me to tell you to humble yourself and become Orthodox.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/7/12


the roof came down on the Catholic Church. All kinds of people saw what the Church was doing, was so wrong. And they wanted to reform the Church. Get it back to where is begin, but were not successful.
---Mark_V. on 11/7/12

Mark,

They were not successful because Jesus Christ himself built his Church on the Rock of Peter and gave him only the keys to the kingdom of Heaven..Think about it!
---Ruben on 11/7/12


Cluny, what you really mean is what you believe he told the Catholics and your denomination. If you only open your mind you would know that all through history many theologians within the Universal Church disagreed with how the Church was abusing the gospel message. And they were kept quiet. Great theologians were kept from preaching the truth. And since the Church was the body who had Scripture available, they could use it to their own benefit. And did. Once the Bible was made available to all, the roof came down on the Catholic Church. All kinds of people saw what the Church was doing, was so wrong. And they wanted to reform the Church. Get it back to where is begin, but were not successful.
---Mark_V. on 11/7/12


\\I must disagree. \\

You're also disagreeing with what the Holy Spirit told the vast majority of Christians for the last 2000 years.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/6/12


The Apostolic office continued in the Bishops.
---Cluny on 11/6/12

I must disagree.

The definition of an Apostle is given in the Bible in only one place, Acts 1:21-22. Matthias was chosen using this definition and in Acts 1:26, Matthias was numbered with the eleven Apostles, meaning he was considered an Apostle like the eleven of the twelve original Apostles.

Because there is no other definition of an Apostle in the Bible and the definition has not changed since it was written, no person can become an Apostle today. No person alive can say that they have seen Jesus baptised and have seen Jesus resurrected.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/6/12




\\Cluny 2: The Apostolic Office ceased with the death of the Apostles.\\

Wrong again.

The Apostolic office continued in the Bishops.

But if you were only a Christian, you would have the mind of Christ, know that spiritual things are spiritually discerned, and understand these things.

All you are doing is speaking in yourself, not the Holy Spirit.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/6/12


Cluny 2: The Apostolic Office ceased with the death of the Apostles. It is to (Jesus) churches that He promised a continual existence from the time He organized the first, during His earthly ministry and until He comes again, He promised.
"I will build My Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18) because,
"I will be with you always, even unto the end of the age" (Matt. 28:20). Jesus is the Head and founder of the New Testament Church, and is the lawgiver. The church is only the executive (Matt. 16:18: Col. 1:18). The religion of Christ being a religion not of this world, it founder gave it no earthly head and no temporal power.
---Mark_V. on 11/6/12


Cluny, you don't bother me at all. I know why you speak for the E. orthodox. What you forget are do not want to be reminded is that when the churches combine together, they were the Universal church, Catholic. With the exception of the ani-baptist and a few others who were persecuted by the Catholics. In time the eastern churches and the western churches marriage came to an end. The Catholic church remaining, became the Roman Catholic Church, the other the E. Orthodox church and later many Orthodox Churches with that name. Because of course they didn't agree not only on the site, but on matters of their faith and many traditions, not all.
---Mark_V. on 11/6/12


\\It came out of the Roman Catholic Church, which replaced Jesus as the Head of the Church,\\

Wrong again, as in everything you say.

Roman Catholicism split from Orthodoxy, not the other way around.

Doesn't it bother you in the least to expound upon things when you don't know what you're talking about--speaking from the summit of y our ignorance?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/5/12


Cluny, you are hypocitical when you say,

"Why won't you repent, turn to Jesus, and be saved, instead of spouting your blasphemies, MarkV?"

Let me help you about the history of your church. It came out of the Roman Catholic Church, which replaced Jesus as the Head of the Church, replaced Him in worship when they elevated Mary to deity. Jesus was replaced even by the saints in answering prayer even though you guys call it venerate, which is symomyms with worship. Now you tell us your church gave us the Bible, when all they did was receive what was already Truth. Replace His sufficient sacrifice with the works of the seven Mysteries. And to argue God did not give us the Truth you say, it did not drop out of the sky.
---Mark_V. on 11/3/12




Cluny I am not foolish enough to say my church wrote anything because God wrote the Bible through people sold out to him. Funny,Church of God and Church of Jesus are both Pentecostal churches,I've gone to both. Jesus didn't say he is starting the Orthodox church,his followers were meeting in homes. Anyone can claim their church started something,they repeat what their denomination taught them,but it doesn't make it true. The church I belong to comes from many different earthly denominations and we will see the true church,God's people,when we all get to heaven. I'm not narrow enough to believe that the denomination I attend is the only one going to heaven.
---Darlene_1 on 11/2/12


\\God gave us the Bible\\

You don't think the Bible dropped down out of heaven already written, do you?

There were many writings around, and God used the Orthodox Church--not yours--to decide what books should be in the Bible.

Why won't you repent, turn to Jesus, and be saved, instead of spouting your blasphemies, MarkV?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/2/12


Cluny, you say,

"First off, the Church came before the Bible"

And use "glory to Christ" What your doing is giving glory to your Church? The church did not give us the Bible. God gave us the Bible. The writers of Scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote the Words of God down. They were truth before the Church was even born. Jesus gave the apostles the very words the Father had given Him (John 17:8) and promised to send the Holy Spirit to teach them, guide them, and recall to their minds all that He had told them during His earthly ministry (John 14:26: 16:13). The Church is a servant and not a mistress, a depository and not a judge. She exercises the office of minister, not of a magistrate.
---Mark_V. on 11/2/12


\\Cluny,I don't see how you can actually promote the tradition of man that the Orthodox Church is the first one and truely believe it because the Bible says nothing about i\\

First off, the Church came before the Bible.

Orthodox is merely a label we have so outsiders can find us.

Our name to OURSELVES is Church of Christ, Church of Jesus, Church of God, and other names found in the Bible, which we wrote to start with.

You don't actually think that YOUR church wrote it, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/1/12


\\Cluny, now you tell me, how can you be offering sound doctrine, when you have satan in your pocket to throw at me whenever you want? \\

I see you're projecting this morning, Mark V.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/1/12


Cluny,I don't see how you can actually promote the tradition of man that the Orthodox Church is the first one and truely believe it because the Bible says nothing about it. Now if you go by the Bible I might could say the Pentecostal Church was founded on the day of Pentecost with the 120 men and women because that is when the base teaching of the Pentecostal Church began. I won't do that though because it doesn't make a blip on the radar when any denomination began and the only thing saying that is good for is to brag my church is better than your church,or attack all Christion denominations with any church that doesn't believe that the Bread and Wine actually becomes the blood and body of Christ aren't saved. God said don't eat blood.
---Darlene_1 on 11/1/12


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Cluny, now you tell me, how can you be offering sound doctrine, when you have satan in your pocket to throw at me whenever you want? You just threw him at me this morning on another blob. Do those who are born of God have satan in their pocket? Is that sound doctrine from your Eastern Orthodox? Your doctrines also declare when "you do" (your own works) the seven Mysteries or sacraments, it is a way to receive grace in order to enter heaven? Sounds like more false doctrines coming from you. God has to take satan out of your life first, by making you alive to Christ. Then you will be free indeed.
---Mark_V. on 11/1/12


\\Cluny no,what I said means that the Orthodox Church is no better or nearer to God than any other denomination\\

Yes, she is, because she is Christ's original pre-denomiational Church.l

Yours came much later.

||\Christ's body is the church,we are members of Christs body,therefore we are the church too.||

Who's WE, Kemo Sabe?

Does your church teach that the bread and wine become truly the Body and Blood of Christ?

If not, then your church is not of Christ.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/31/12


Cluny no,what I said means that the Orthodox Church is no better or nearer to God than any other denomination because all denominations are Christs Church if they follow and teach Christ's Gospel.Paul speaking Colosians 1:24--for the sake of His body,which is the church. Ephesians 5:29,30(man),but he feeds and cares for it just as Christ does the church,For we are members of His body. Christ's body is the church,we are members of Christs body,therefore we are the church too. If you don't know who I follow by now,saying it won't make any difference.
---Darlene_1 on 10/31/12


\\If all believers are baptized into One Spiritual body, how can anyone see it?\\

And where does the Bible say His Earthly Body--the Church--is merely spiritual?

You are making false unbiblical assumptions.

Why won't you turn and be saved, MarkV? Why will you die? I'm offering you sound doctrine. Why do you reject it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/31/12


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Cluny, you say,
"Jesus never said His Church would be invisible. You won't find "invisible church" anywhere in the Bible."
If all believers are baptized into One Spiritual body, how can anyone see it?

"Just as God's first covenant people, Israel, was quite visible, so is His new covenant people, the ORthodox Church." Wrong, Israel is not a Church. Israel is a nation of lost people, in the flesh who reject Christ. Your church is a visible church, Jesus said, made up of Tares and Wheat. All visible Churches are. There is a distinction between the two. Those that are the wheat, you don't know who they are, for no one can see the hearts. But you can surely know the tares by their fruits.
---Mark_V. on 10/31/12


\\But God's invisible Church\\

Jesus never said His Church would be invisible. You won't find "invisible church" anywhere in the Bible.

Just as God's first covenant people, Israel, was quite visible, so is His new covenant people, the ORthodox Church.

\\ is made up of genuine believers born of the Spirit and baptized into One Body in Christ, no tares in that Church. And Christ is the Head of that Body.\\

You're describing the Orthodox Church at this point, MarkV.

Glory to JEsus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/30/12


\\Your denomination started that way, replacing Christ as Head of the Church. //

ORthodoxy has ALWAYS said and taught that Christ is the head of the Church.

// Nothing much separates both of your denominations. your idol worship is the same.//

Neither Orthodoxy nor even Roman Catholicism worships idols, but when I was a Baptist we said prayers to pieces of cloth.

\\ The very reason you defend the RCC on many matters. \\

Be specific, please. I will admit I've pointed out when people say false things about Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy, like you.

Don't you want to be saved, Mark?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/29/12


Cluny, You say:

"How can you possibly share peace when the mockery you show towards Christ Jesus and His Holy Orthodox Church show how burdened with sin and heavily laden your heart is"

I never mock Christ. Your denomination started that way, replacing Christ as Head of the Church. And I was not leaving what you call Holy Othordox Church peace, it was you I was leaving peace. I have already known by the many times you have told me already, that you are not a Catholic. Nothing much separates both of your denominations. your idol worship is the same. The very reason you defend the RCC on many matters. Both teach about the same traditions. Nothing has changed for hundreds of years. Church history teaches us that.
---Mark_V. on 10/29/12


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Cluny, you now say to Darline,

"Orthodoxy, on the other hand, is NOT denominational, like Arians, Methodists, Pentecostals, or SDA, but is PRE-denominational."

You deny the Orthodox Church is a denomination, but the Roman Catholic Church was the first one, when Constantine became the head of the Universal Church. After a few hundred years, the Orthodox split from the RCC and became their own denomination, with many others in Europe and even some here in the states. And after the refomation many more denominations came to be.
But God's invisible Church is made up of genuine believers born of the Spirit and baptized into One Body in Christ, no tares in that Church. And Christ is the Head of that Body.
---Mark_V. on 10/29/12


\\Cluny with all respect for you and your right to your beliefs but The Holy Orthodox Church is no more Christs Church than any of the other Denominations.\\

That means that your denomination is not Christ's Church, either, Darlene.

Why are you a member of something that is not of Christ?

Orthodoxy, on the other hand, is NOT denominational, like Arians, Methodists, Pentecostals, or SDA, but is PRE-denominational.

Nowhere does the Bible say that Christ's church is invisible. Just like old Israel, God's first covenant people, were quite visible, so is the Church, God's NEW covenant people.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/27/12


Hello,Trish,thankyou, so much, so happy you find my prayer for you.good . Been to doctor, few days ago,he said "you don't have diabetes!" Girl,my mouth! Just open I'm shock! Then,I praise him, happy and I still just so thankfull, has strengthen my faith! bout 5:00am and I had just wake up and put it in the prayer Room,you know the lord has healed friends on CNT prayer Room.One guy told me,after we all prayed and he got healed of cancer! He still say he don't believe in God! I tell you, God is just wonderfull, even when we don't deserve it.God is good! Halleluyah! I feel like just sing and dance,and just get happy express my joy! people sleep,ha!ha! Love agape Trish & everybody. Ez.47:12 mal.4:2,Ex. 15:26,Ps.103:3
---ELENA on 10/27/12


Elena, Thank you for your prayer. I really appreciate it. You are so sweet and loving, and have blessed me abundantly.
---Trish on 10/26/12


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Cluny with all respect for you and your right to your beliefs but The Holy Orthodox Church is no more Christs Church than any of the other Denominations. Just because someone doesn't believe as they do doesn't mean that person or denomination's people aren't saved. I have noticed for a long time you think the Orthodox Church is the only Church,therefore,the only ones going to heaven. Churchs don't save us,we must believe on Jesus,that He was crucified for our sin,rose again,and sits at the right hand of the Father. We are saved by God's grace,by the Word of God which brings faith when we hear it,through Jesus Christ. The power of God surpasses anything in a church and He pours that upon the obedient sons/daughters who believe in Christ.
---Darlene_1 on 10/26/12


\\peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 10/26/12\\

How can you possibly share peace when the mockery you show towards Christ Jesus and His Holy Orthodox Church show how burdened with sin and heavily laden your heart is?

Oh, that you would only turn to Him now while you still have life and breath and be saved!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/26/12


Mod. permit-. Heavenly father we need you loving hand be with our sis.Trish & All / storm "Sandy " bless heat,so, Trish / all. Re: meals, people be calm in the mist( as possible) let be Rescued sick & homebond. Saved from water,fire, any calamity those trained for disasters,make it easy for them to get to the injured homeless,ill and mentally disabled and be wise,diligent and fearless in the mosts of adversity, protect those public. workers who will heroically Risk their life to save the needy. This is also,a good time to share the gospel,let God name be a Welcome Mat show. Love Agape for those whose faith be. pergaps challenged Be strong in the power of His mighty. Save lives,please thankyou. JESUS!
---ELENA on 10/26/12


\\ "Because the Spirit brought me to the Truth //

No, He didn't. You've not come to the truth yet.

about what you and the RCC follow teach and follow"\\

You have not yet caught on that I'm ORTHODOX, have you?

You actually seem to think that Christianity is divided into only two groups: Protestant and Roman Catholic.

Actually, Protestants and Roman Catholics share more with each other than either shares with Holy Orthodoxy.

But I think that what makes you angrier than anything else is I don't simply roll over and admit you're right to start with. (BTW, I didn't have to read as many pages as you did to realize the BoM was not Christian.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/26/12


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Cluny 3: Oh, by the way, in answer to your quote about the word you gave,
I don't have cards read to me, I don't read cards, I don't even play Texas Holdem. That is why I was not familiar with the word you gave. Hope I answered your questions. peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 10/26/12


Cluny, its funny when you try to argue for no good reason. Of course "I have never read a million books," I was indicating there is millions of books not worthy of reading. Second, "the Holy Spirit speaks to our conscience," what is right and what is wrong, that is how I can tell when a book is worthy for me to read. Something you would never know since you follow the teachings of your church traditions and believes over the Truth of Scripture. You know how I know? "Because the Spirit brought me to the Truth about what you and the RCC follow teach and follow" As a Catholic I didn't even know what born again was. They never taught you that, they teach you traditions on how to become saved.
---Mark_V. on 10/26/12


Cluny 2: it is important for all believers to understand they are not along anymore. The Spirit of Christ lives in them. And when we make decisions the Spirit help us to the Truth. He speaks to our conscience. We have that resource that others do not have. I know how you feel, I felt the same way when I was a Catholic, trying to understand truth on my own without the Spirit. That's why its important if we are saved to surrender to the Spirit for help. He will always be there.
---Mark_V. on 10/26/12


\\I don't know or even want to know what cartomancy is. \\

Card reading.

\\I allow the spirit to help me whenever I open a book. ...\\

In other words, you used your own judgement and knowledge, and confused yourself with the Holy Spirit. I really doubt if you have looked at a million books in your life.

\\ I believe the reason you do not understand is because they don't teach at your church been born again of the Spirit.\\

You don't actually think that YOU have been, do you?

And what Church do you think first taught it? (Hint: It wasn't yours.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/26/12


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Cluny, you said,

"If so, how is this different from cartomancy?"

I don't know or even want to know what cartomancy is. It has no room in my spiritual life. I allow the spirit to help me whenever I open a book. When I opened the book of mormon the first time, and read the first four pages, I knew it was a book that was not of the biblical Christ. The same goes for millions of books out there in the books stores. I believe the reason you do not understand is because they don't teach at your church been born again of the Spirit. I know the RCC never taught it. I believe you guys don't either. They depend on the Catholic Church for truth, not the Holy Spirit's revealing the truth from the word of God to the believer.
---Mark_V. on 10/25/12


\\I open the books up. it is the Spirit that helps me, to know what is good for my spiritual life with Christ.\\

Are you saying that you actually think that the Holy Spirit will tell you if a book is helpful by your merely opening it in a bookstore?

If so, how is this different from cartomancy?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/24/12


Cluny, in your rush to judgment, you overlooked what I said. You even wrote it down.
I never judge a book by it's cover, I open the books up. it is the Spirit that helps me, to know what is good for my spiritual life with Christ. If it helps, it is because the Spirit wants to reveal something new from Scripture that maybe I have over looked, there is nothing for you to get excited about.
---Mark_V. on 10/24/12


\\I believe by opening up the books at the store you can more or less feel in your heart if the book will help. \\

What happened to "Don't judge a book by its cover"?

Or is this some kind of new Evangelical voodoo?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/23/12


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Sis. Pat, Bible tools are great. But be careful the books you get. I believe by opening up the books at the store you can more or less feel in your heart if the book will help. Many wonderful bro. and sis. study certain perticular subjects. Example, Christology. Every single verse concerning Jesus. They put the passages in order. Makes it much easier to look up passages for yourself. Explains the events and the historical parts. Work that would take you years to do and study. Others write about repentance, and others about something else. Each a subject mentioned in the Word of God. These man are gifted to do the work they do for all believers. I don't believe speed reading can help, maybe some can retain everything read but I don't think so.
---Mark_V. on 10/23/12


You may not understand it, very well. I have to use Bible tools when I study. Dig a little.
---pat on 10/22/12


you may read it, the Bible, fast or slow. the important thing is that you understand it and apply it to your life to make you more like Christ, which should be your ultimate goal as a Christian.
---melia on 8/23/12


jamea3475,
I wasn't saying that you claimed anything.

I was telling of my own photographic memory. And from that, the ability to read large portions of scripture without compromising a meditative quality.

I was simply correlating that to your speed reading and preference toward reading lots of scripture at one time, in order to make the case that it's not necessarilty a bad thing to read scripture in large sections.
---James_L on 8/19/12


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james l, you are telling porkies i didnt make those claims!im not offended but were do u get those statements?
---jamea3475 on 8/19/12


Some people, like Jamea, have the giftedness to be able to speed read and remember things. That is a good thing for getting to the big picture of what is being read. I see nothing wrong with reading the Bible that way, as long as the person also takes the time to study the Scriptures, to fully comprehend the Word, AND meditate, as was described earlier. Both studying and meditating are Scriptural behaviors we should practice when it comes to the Word.
---Trish on 8/19/12


As to the original question and further comments made by jamea3475,

I have a photographic memory. I can see words and numbers, and retain a photograph that I can refer back to. It's not memorization, it's an image. But, over time the memory of that image will fade and eventually disappear.

I used to read large portions of scripture, which really helped to understand it in a big picture sense.

But, the images also helped me to disect and meditate on smaller portions because I don't need the text in front of me at all times.

I believe, for certain people, large portions at one time can be helpful. But, don't forget to slow down, contemplate, revisit, and lean on the Holy Spirit to help you understand
---James_L on 8/19/12


There are some missconceptions here
Reading and meditating are not the same. First you read, then you can think ( meditate) about what you have read, and how it applies to you, and how yu may apply it in your daily life.

One can speed read, remember all that he has read, and meditate on it.

but I ask again, in school which student was more likely to retain what he has read, those who were slow readers or those who could read fast?
---francis on 8/18/12


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For what purpose would speed reading holy scripture bring to the person who performs this activity?

followers of the Lord are asked to meditate on his word. meditation involves thought and prolonged thinking of that thought or idea. Meditation involves consideration of the ideas and thoughts presented. Speed reading is the opposite of meditation. There are no thoughts or words in holy scripture that ask us to read the word of God quickly and without care or concern to what the Lord is asking us to consider in our lives through his words for us. The wise consider his word the fool considers his intellectual abilities in doing things quicker and better than others. Speed of competition.
---Follower_of_Christ on 8/18/12


This particular method is reading Scripture is called "lectio divina" in Roman Catholic spirituality.

Did you know that?
---Cluny on 8/16/12

I cannot say that I knew that. Nor can I say that it is wrong, just because it comes from the RCC.

If the word never came from the will of man but from the movement of the Holy Spirit upon man (2 Peter 1:21) and it is given by the inspiration of God for doctrine, reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness (2 Tim 3:16), then why is meditating on the word called a form of sprituality?

The Book itself tells us to meditate on it day and night (Josh 1:8, Ps 119:15, Phil 4:8).

I refuse to see this as a form of mumbo-jumbo "spirituality".
---Mark_Eaton on 8/17/12


wat i see is like loads wee dots.i tink threre blood cells,mainly annoying when looking at bright surfaces!doesnt effect reading or my vision as a whole just annoying at times!
---james3475 on 8/17/12


\\i mean speed reading,i find it easier taking in loads of information.\\
---jamea3475 on 8/14/12

Aren't you the same guy from the other thread, whos eyes don't work right?


\\my eyes see loads flashing dots and other things optician says there ok but i cant see properly!\\
---james3475 on 8/16/12


If all you see is spots and blur, exactly how do you read fast?
---James_L on 8/17/12


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Why? What's the hurry?


---jerry6593 on 8/17/12


Think back to you school days: Which children generally ( not generally) made the better grade. those who were the very slow readers, or those who read faster or and above average speed?

Reading fast has nothing to do with ones ability to recognize a word of phrase, and immediaty commit it's meaning, context, and doctrinal application to memory
---francis on 8/16/12


\\Can you really remember much if you read 100 verses? Do you begin to memorize one verse at a time or 100 at a time?\\
---Mark_Eaton on 8/16/12

At the rate this guy suggested, it would take 32 hours to read the entire bible.

I don't think he's talking about 100 verses at a time, but the whole bible in three or four days
---James_L on 8/16/12


//You seem to have a resentment against meditating on the Word.// mark_e

i am just discussing. how did you come to that conclusion? never-mind..irrelevant.

anyway, we need to delineate meditate from memorize. when i read a story, depending on the length, i read it a chapter at a time.(and i think about it...especially in light of what i already read.) when i read a letter to me, i read the whole letter and then think about it. when i read a poem, i read the whole thing and then think about it all. meditate means to think about it..ponder it.

the bible has stories, letters, and poems.

the verses were not part of the original manuscripts. selah
---aka on 8/16/12


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I have two Bibles I use throughout the week. My primary Bible is my study Bible. I underline, use it for Bible studies, and during Sunday worship. My other Bible is a Grandmother's Devotional Bible. In it are page long devotions related to being a Christian grandmother. It includes a Bible passage, a chapter of a book, to read, then I devotional focused on applying the Word I read to my role of a grandmother, and then a prayer for my grandchildren. I have gleaned some interesting Spiritual challenges in these devotions.
---Trish on 8/16/12


---jamea3475 on 8/16/12
why two bibles? WHy not three or four?

This information applies only to that individuAl.

can we say that this si true for everyone?
---francis on 8/16/12


\\wat do you,s people think of that info?
---jamea3475 on 8/16/12\\

Makes sense.

** Meditation is staying focused on a particular passage and seeing what God will say in it.**

This particular method is reading Scripture is called "lectio divina" in Roman Catholic spirituality.

Did you know that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/16/12


a man called philip green ma,seen information he was a speed reader said when going threw the bible fast he said it was reading,when going slow studying,he said to use two bible and use one for study one for reading,wat do you,s people think of that info?
---jamea3475 on 8/16/12


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Retention is not meditation. Meditation is staying focused on a particular passage and seeing what God will say in it. Not just knowing what the words mean, but the underlying meaning.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/16/12

I accept you premise. Yet the speed at which one reads has nothing to do with his ability to stay focus, retain the imformation and meditate on it.
---francis on 8/16/12


How can you possibly meditate on the word if you do not read more than one sentence at a time? even the chapters are arbitrary divisions that were added later.
---aka on 8/16/12

If you read whole chapters, how can you meditate on anything? Can you really remember much if you read 100 verses? Do you begin to memorize one verse at a time or 100 at a time?

You seem to have a resentment against meditating on the Word.

In my life, I try to read a small amount in the morning and do my studying at night. By reading a small amount in the morning and "chewing the cud" of the word all day, I am meditating on it.

Charles Spurgeon was a great fan of meditation and of meditating on the Word.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/16/12


Has it ever occured to you, that one coudl speed read and retain every last word that he has read?
---francis on 8/15/12

Retention is not meditation. Meditation is staying focused on a particular passage and seeing what God will say in it. Not just knowing what the words mean, but the underlying meaning.

Ps 46:10 "Be still, and know that I am God..."

Does that sound like speed-reading to you?
---Mark_Eaton on 8/16/12


my goodness, I wish I could speed read. I like to study and get little nougats out of God's Word. I doubt if I could personally do that with speed. Some have a gift such as speed reading. I have attempted to speed read and it takes complete concentration with no interuptions.
---shira4368 on 8/16/12


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Has it ever occured to you, that one coudl speed read and retain every last word that he has read?

That speed that one can read at, has no correlation to his comprehension and ability to retain
---francis on 8/15/12


//It would be better if you read only one verse every day for a week than to read a chapter a day...Meditate on the word.//

the reason why we have misguided use of the phrase "separation of church and state" is because everybody wants to ponder a few words of a whole letter that is talking about something different than how it is commonly used today.

How can you possibly meditate on the word if you do not read more than one sentence at a time? even the chapters are arbitrary divisions that were added later.
---aka on 8/16/12


I disagree and say NO to speed-reading.

It would be better if you read only one verse every day for a week than to read a chapter a day.

Meditate on the word. Ever read that in the Bible before? Understand what it means, what God is saying to you, what the purpose of the passage is, why is it important for you to read, and how do you apply it to your life.

Remember, these are the words of the Creator of the Universe. You really want to quickly gloss over them?
---Mark_Eaton on 8/15/12


Just as long as you read. I don't think God is clocking you and testing your retention.

A young man told an elder that he had trouble remembering what he read from the Bible. The elder gave him two buckets, each with a hole in it, and told him to take one bucket each day to the river and fill it.

At the end of a week, the bucket didn't hold water--but it was clean.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/15/12


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lolololololololol speed-read the Bible??? I don't think there is such a thing. You have to read all of it to understand. Every little jot and tittle can mean something. Even leaving out one little bit can change the meaning of the scripture.
---tweety_bird on 8/14/12


Hmm, James . . . I was going to say that rushing through a lot of scripture can have you missing things. But it seems you can get overall view and meaning by reading a lot at a time. So, I can see the value of reading a bunch at once, but also giving special attention to parts in more detail.

And I was going to say . . . read at the speed of the light (c:

"The entrance of Your words gives light,
. It gives understanding to the simple."
. . . . . . . . (Psalm 119:130)

I mean at the speed that God leads (c:
---willie_c: on 8/14/12


i mean speed reading,i find it easier taking in loads of information.
---jamea3475 on 8/14/12


By "speed reading", do you mean the various techniques for reading books very quickly?

Or do you mean browsing and scanning to get an idea what's inside it?

I suppose both are ok in themselves, but they have limitations.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/14/12


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i mean like reading 400words a minute and reading big chunks of it at a time,
---jamea3475 on 8/14/12


Speed Reading The Bible
Is it OK to speed read the Bible?
---jamea3475 on 8/14/12

yes
---francis on 8/14/12


Just for clarity do you mean reading it like a novel? This is what the Bible in a year plans do especially the chronlogical plan. I would say yes especially the OT and gospels to get the overview and the big picture of the Bible and how it connects together. For example you hear stories of about Moses, David, Daniel, and Ester etc, but they are hard to connect together into a full timeline of events and context. For instance knowing Nehemiah happen after the fall of Jer. to Bablyon is an important piece of information and he was a governor (leader under Xerxes) not a king (complete human authority).
---Scott1 on 8/14/12


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