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Eddie Long Is Now A King

Has anyone seen the video of Eddie L. Long being elevated from Bishop, and crowned as King of the Church? What will those WOF people come up with next, and why do so many people fall for this mess? What are your thoughts?

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//..crowned as King of the Church..//

At least he admits it, many pastors just act like one.
---Rod4Him on 11/11/12


Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. Leave them, they are blind guides [of the blind]. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

Matthew 15:13-14, New International Version

Pray for the redemption of "lost souls" like Long & those who follow his lead, while they yet have breath in their earthly bodies.
---Leon on 11/10/12


If Eddie Long did what they said and doesn't repent he's going to hell with gasoline thongs on. If they did crown him King they all will dread it on judgement day. There's only 1 King and that's JESUS.
---mslmp on 11/3/12


MarkV: "You act like the Pharisees"

No Mark, it is you who act like the pharisees! Christ criticized them for NOT keeping the Sabbath as commanded in Exodus and Deuteronomy, but rather attaching their own MAN-MADE rules to it. You do the same thing - you ignore the scripture that commands worship on the seventh-day Sabbath, and substitute your own MAN-MADE counterfeit first-day sabbath. Why do you exhalt the doctrines of MAN above the Commandments of GOD?


Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.




---jerry6593 on 9/21/12


Jerry, you accuse others of breaking the Ten Commandments for not keeping Saturday Sabbath, while you claim you do. You preach the letter of the Law, over the Spirit of the Law.
You act like the Pharisees, and Jesus reserved His strongest criticism for them. The Pharisees believed that due to their status as children of Abraham, and to their scrupulous adherence to the law, they wre the children of God. Just like you. But at the core, this is a denial of the gospel. A corollary article of legalism is the adherence to the letter of the law to the exclusion of the Spirit of the law. In order for the Pharisees to believe that they could keep the law, they first had to reduce it to its most narrow interpretation as you do, like Saturday Sabbath.
---Mark_V. on 9/20/12




That sentence doesn't even make sense, but see response to MarkV above. ---jerry6593 on 9/19/12

neither does reasoning from scriptures that michael is christ. but, that makes sense to you, so it is not a surprise to me that you say that.

(btw, if it does not make sense then how do you know that the response you gave to markv even fits what i said?)
---aka on 9/19/12


Mark V: "Jerry, you are obssessed with the keeping the law in order to enter heaven."

There you go mind reading again - assigning motives to my actions. I never said I keep the law in order to gain access to heaven - NEVER! I keep God's Law (not man's) out of love to Him (Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.), whether I make it to heaven or not. Why do you disobey God's Commandments? Love?


aka: "iow, it is ok for you to not keep God's law and other laws and point at others because of how good you think you keep them."

That sentence doesn't even make sense, but see response to MarkV above.


---jerry6593 on 9/19/12


Jerry, you are obssessed with the keeping the law in order to enter heaven. But the door will be closed for you and anyone who is not born of the Spirit. And that you have proven that you and the rest of the SDA's don't have to be born of the Spirit, because if you did, you would know that a child of God, born of the Spirit is already untied with Christ spiritually. You say no. So all the talk you make is only good for those who believe as you do, that keeping Saturday Sabbath will get you in. It is not the external things we do, but what is inside the heart. You are a good example of a Pharisee, standing outside proclaiming he kept the Sabbath, how great a guy you are compared to others.
---Mark_V. on 9/18/12


Let me clear it up for you. I am obsessed with Law keeping. It is you who are obsessed with Law breaking. -jerry

iow, it is ok for you to not keep God's law and other laws and point at others because of how good you think you keep them.

Jesus Christ is the Lord and savior.
---aka on 9/18/12


aka: "who is obsessed about lawbreaking?"

Let me clear it up for you. I am obsessed with Law keeping. It is you who are obsessed with Law breaking. God gave us Ten Commandments - not ten suggestions. God demands obedience. Jesus kept the Ten Commandments and stated that they would remain while heaven and earth remain. Who has the authority to disannul that which God commands? You?


---jerry6593 on 9/18/12




That is what I do. I comply with CN "Law". You are a lawbreaker. I guess we shouldn't expect you to comply with CN "Law" when you refuse to comply with God's Ten Commandment Law. - jerry

ummm...btw...who is obsessed about lawbreaking? remember, it was you that started the exchange.
---aka on 9/15/12


//aka: You seem to be obsessed with law breaking.//-jerry, you seemed obsessed with making ridiculous statements and not addressing logical points.-you said cluny broke the law and so did your fellow church member.-yet, you say nothing to him.-yes or no...does francis break CN Inst. #7 of the website?

//How do you feel about God's Law - The Ten Commandments?//-i don't "feel" any way about God's law.-it is what it is... summed up and redelivered by my Christ.-you do not have the same Christ, therefore, that argument is irrelevant.

//How does your wife feel about your commiting adultery?//-on this site, i have never said nor have i ever committed adultery when my wife were married.-isn't that bearing false witness?
---aka on 9/15/12


aka: You seem to be obsessed with law breaking. How do you feel about God's Law - The Ten Commandments?


---jerry6593 on 9/15/12


//Oh really? Just who gave you that right? CN Instruction # 7 reads: "- Use Penpal User Name"// jerry

francis is not a pen-pal user name.

so, if cluny is a lawbreaker, then it just follows about others who do not use their pen-pal.
---aka on 9/13/12


//aka: Francis is not the one who misspelled his name.//in order to post more than one time per update, some bloggers slightly modify their name so they do not appear the same to the program. do u think the moderators type our name everytime we post?

//it is likely that [cluny] has used others.// i do not get that impression of cluny. when is he afraid to say what he thinks?

//Do you advocate breaking all laws?// do you always avoid a good point by diverting to something ridiculous?

//How does your wife feel about your commiting adultery?//

i don't know. but, when we were married, early on, she said that if i ever cheated on her, she would divorce. but, when she did it, i bet you she was feeling ok about it.
---aka on 9/13/12


aka: Francis is not the one who misspelled his name.

I know your real name (Joseph) and your reason for changing it. But Cluny is different. It is not his name, and it is likely that he has used others.

Do you advocate breaking all laws? How does your wife feel about your commiting adultery?


---jerry6593 on 9/13/12


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Jerry, the name game is an accepted practice of the mod. the originator of this site. And the practice is allowed. therefore, the law has not been broken.

Anyway, using this logic, Francis, francis , frances , frances is a lawbreaker, too.

I hope you never go one milli-mph over the speed limit. otherwise, you are a lawbreaker too.
---aka on 9/12/12


Cluny: "I have a right to use whatever handle on a blog I choose."

Oh really? Just who gave you that right? CN Instruction # 7 reads:

"- Use Penpal User Name"

That is what I do. I comply with CN "Law". You are a lawbreaker. I guess we shouldn't expect you to comply with CN "Law" when you refuse to comply with God's Ten Commandment Law.

If you were an honest person, you would disclose ALL the pseudonyms you have used on CN. I'm not afraid to. Why are you?


---jerry6593 on 9/12/12


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Cluny: The use of a false name is indicative of an habitual liar. How many other pseudonyms do you use?

Your reasonings are not only silly, but stupid and evil as well. Ellen White teaches form the Bible - you don't. And that "can't drive a car on Sabbath" thing must have come from the very bottom of the stupid barrel.

************
---jerry6593 on 9/8/12


\\Cluny: If it weren't for lies, you'd have nothing to say. Even the name you use - Cluny - is a lie.\\

I have a right to use whatever handle on a blog I choose.

\\ You never stick to a topic under discussion, but when cornered with facts, you jump to some (usually hateful) unrelated topic.\\

You never do, either.

\\Just once, rather than slandering a dead woman, why don't you address the topic?\\

If I tell the truth about the medium EGW, then I am NOT slandering her.

\\ Jesus and ALL His disciples kept the seventh-day Sabbath.\\

And if you drive your car on the Sabbath, you are breaking it, so you have no room to talk.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/7/12


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Jesus is King of the Christian Church! Eddie is the king of the -New Birth Missionary Baptist goat herd-. On the video starting at 11:31-45, the wolf-rabbi Messer says: We have got a... "new kingdom". Therefore, Eddies church is not the Lords Church! Isaiah 9:6, Matthew 7:15-20, Luke 22:29-30, 2Timothy 4:18, 2Peter 1:1-11.
p.s. Other than offending millions of people by wrapping someone in a scroll, and saying: "Hes sealed by the word of God", does the following now apply? Genesis 2:24, Leviticus 18:22-30, 20:13.
---Glenn on 9/7/12


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Cluny: If it weren't for lies, you'd have nothing to say. Even the name you use - Cluny - is a lie. You never stick to a topic under discussion, but when cornered with facts, you jump to some (usually hateful) unrelated topic.

Just once, rather than slandering a dead woman, why don't you address the topic? Jesus and ALL His disciples kept the seventh-day Sabbath. Pagan, sun-worshipping gentiles (and later the Popes) kept Sunday. YOU follow after the Popes in this regard - NOT the ORTHODOX teachings of Christ!

Why?

************
---jerry6593 on 9/7/12


\\and, i don't thing cluny is dancing on EGW's grave...just her doctrine.
---aka on 9/6/12\\

My point exactly, aka.

She spoke doctrines of devils because she was inhabited by a walk-in religious demon.

And she wasn't even an honest woman, but plagiarized the writings of others.

francis, I have already answered elsewhere with EGW's own words where she said that "health reform" was tied up with the "everlasting gospel."

YOU, however, have not proven which pope "changed Saturday to Sunday." Because you cannot.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/6/12


no...i am saying the logic of how the two are considered by some to be a king and prophetess are the same.
---aka on 9/6/12

Then explain the logic with supporting facts
---francis on 9/6/12


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Are you saying that the creteria (sic) for being king and for being a prophet are the same?
---francis on 9/5/12

no...i am saying the logic of how the two are considered by some to be a king and prophetess are the same.

and, i don't thing cluny is dancing on EGW's grave...just her doctrine.
---aka on 9/6/12


However, since I can PROVE what EGW said ....
---Cluny on 9/5/12

OK sunshine you are on!

Pick you book lets talk about it:

Acts of the Apostles

Christ's Object Lessons

The Desire of Ages

The Great Controversy

Patriarchs and Prophets

Prophets and Kings

Steps to Christ


I do not want second hand information. Do not bring to me what soeone else said on their website

choose an ORIGINAL book of Ellen G white lets talk about it
---francis on 9/6/12


************

Cluny: If it weren't for lies, you'd have nothing to say. Even the name you use - Cluny - is a lie. You never stick to a topic under discussion, but when cornered with facts, you jump to some (usually hateful) unrelated topic.

Just once, rather than slandering a dead woman, why don't you address the topic? Jesus and ALL His disciples kept the seventh-day Sabbath. Pagan, sun-worshipping gentiles (and later the Popes) kept Sunday. YOU follow after the Popes in this regard - NOT the ORTHODOX teachings of Christ!

Why?

************
---jerry6593 on 9/6/12


aka sorry I was so long getting back to you my computer has been down,thank you for the reply. I don't ever listen to WoF preachers I guess thats why I know little about them. The ones I did hear in passing always used the ploy send me a $1000.00 and God will bless you,heal you,give you money. Its a shame how easily people can be taken in by such things.
---Darlene_1 on 9/5/12


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\\Just once, rather than slandering a dead woman, why don't you address the topic? \\

The topic here is about Eddie Long, Didn't you notice?

However, since I can PROVE what EGW said (the Bible already says it's a doctrine of demons) and you didn't actually deny it, who is really lying?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/5/12


What is the creteria for being a king?
---francis on 9/4/12

the same logic of why E.G. White is truly a prophetess. but, you would not understand.
---aka on 9/4/12
Are you saying that the creteria for being king and for being a prophet are the same?
---francis on 9/5/12


why can't Eddie Long be a king?
What is the creteria for being a king?
---francis on 9/4/12

the same logic of why E.G. White is truly a prophetess. but, you would not understand.
---aka on 9/4/12


************

Cluny: If it weren't for lies, you'd have nothing to say. Even the name you use - Cluny - is a lie. You never stick to a topic under discussion, but when cornered with facts, you jump to some (usually hateful) unrelated topic.

Just once, rather than slandering a dead woman, why don't you address the topic? Jesus and ALL His disciples kept the seventh-day Sabbath. Pagan, sun-worshipping gentiles (and later the Popes) kept Sunday. YOU follow after the Popes in this regard - NOT the ORTHODOX teachings of Christ!

Why?

************
---jerry6593 on 9/5/12


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why can't Eddie Long be a king?
What is the creteria for being a king?
---francis on 9/4/12


My lord,when I saw this really grieves my heart,had my own bad and just can't say anything but,the truth ,really don't put much trust in church's,just in the Lord! I am closed as far go into detail,but we really need to be carefull. I don't say
all but,like I know from being previously married
to the same type personality, glad it's over and be prayin'for blind minded folks who will not know some of them, what to do in the end.
---ELENA on 9/3/12


My lord,when I saw this really grieves my heart,had my own bad and just can't say anything but,the truth ,really don't put much trust in church's,just in the Lord! I am closed as far go into detail,but we really need to be carefull. I don't say
all but,like I know from being previously married
to the same type personality, glad it's over and be prayin'for blind minded folks who will not know some of them, what to do in the end.
---ELENA on 9/3/12


The SDAs favorite medium and peeping, muttering wizadress, Ellen G. White, said that abstaining from ALL meat was part of the third angel's message--the one carrying the "everlasting gospel."

1 Tim 4 1-3 calls requiring abstaining from meat to be a "doctrine of devils."

Who is REALLY not teaching what the Apostles taught?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/3/12


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\\FoC: Cluny calims to be different from Catholocism, yet adheres to the same doctrines as the pagan, gentile, greek, gnostic Catholic progenitors.\\

Wrong again, as in everything else you say about me.

OTOH, the Apostles never taught that Jesus became Christ at the Theophany, as the SDA teaches.

It's the SDA that does not teach the doctrines of the Apostles.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/3/12


FoC: Cluny calims to be different from Catholocism, yet adheres to the same doctrines as the pagan, gentile, greek, gnostic Catholic progenitors. These he claims were Orthodox, although the beliefs he holds are contrary to those held by Jesus and the His disciples.


---jerry6593 on 9/3/12


\\cluny the verses you chose do not say to submit my mind and my will to the pope!! \\

I never said I did.

But you boasted that you do not submit to any other human being, even though the Bible says we ARE to submit to the leaders of the Church.

You'd rather do ANYTHING than admit the Bible points out your shortcomings.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/2/12


cluny the verses you chose do not say to submit my mind and my will to the pope!! Catechism was written by man for Catholic religion holy scriptures were inspired by God for all of mankind. submission is by obedience to the Lord Jesus and the 10 laws of God. As I already stated your mind and will are controlled by the one you gave these away to who is the Pope. I am free to serve obey and submit to the Lord Jesus. I chose the Lord you chose the Pope. the scriptures state you cannot serve two masters! I have one master. You believe you have the Lord yet you have submitted your mind and will to a man called Pope!

~humble follower of the Rock and lover of The Eternals truth (KJV) Matt 16:18, Corin 10:4, 2 Thess 2:10 1 Pet 2:21
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/2/12


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\\I don't submit my mind or will to another human being.\\

Too bad you don't obey the Bible, FoC.


1. 1 Corinthians 16:16 & #8232,
That ye submit yourselves unto such, and to every one that helpeth with us,
2. Ephesians 5:21 & #8232,Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
3. Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: ...

Why don't you obey these verses, FoC?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/1/12


\\Cluny peace to you if you idolize the man who calls himself Pope. There is no slander in my statement.\\

First off, I'm not a Roman Catholic, as I've said repeatedly. I'm ORTHODOX. The Pope fell away from us nearly 1000 years ago.

Next, I don't idolize the Pope.

YOU were the one who made accusations against him, therefore it's up to YOU to prove them.

I'm sure that what you actually know about the Pope can be written on pinheads.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/1/12


Cluny peace to you if you idolize the man who calls himself Pope. There is no slander in my statement. It is not possible for you to understand something so simple because all people in catholic religion are openly mind controlled by the catechism. a person who submits their will and their mind to another individual (as explained in the catechism) is not capable of understanding anything other than what they are spoon fed by the ministers who serve the Pope. Yes the Pope has elevated himself above the Lord Jesus and his followers adore him. I don't submit my mind or will to another human being. I am a follower of the Lord Jesus. the Lord Jesus has never asked anyone to submit their mind or will to him.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/1/12


\\If any man elevates himself above The Lord (like the Pope\\

But the Pope has never done that.

||Why would you watch this video?||

Why would you slander other people like you did?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/1/12


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If any man elevates himself above The Lord (like the Pope) or equal to The Lord Jesus (calling themselves a King) they are teaching doctrines of devils. Why would you watch this video? These people have not fallen for anything. They are steeped in idolatry. Pray for them that they could see Gods warning about idolatry!
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/1/12


King Eddie! Nah, It just doesn't sound right.

It does, however, beg the question - just who made him king? Was it the same guy who made the Pope a king? Or the guy who made Sunday holy? I doubt that any man has such authority.


---jerry6593 on 8/31/12


There is only ONE King of Kings and His name is Jesus, not Eddie!
---anon on 8/30/12


"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. Leave them, they are blind guides [of the blind]. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

Matthew 15:13-14, New International Version

Pray for the redemption of "lost souls" like Long & those who follow his lead, while they yet have breath in their earthly bodies.
---Leon on 8/30/12


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Contrary to popular belief, you do not have to be from a royal family to be a king. Neither Saul nor David came from a royal family, and they were both kings.

So if Eddie L Long, or any shepherd boy wishes to be king, he can be king.
---francis on 8/29/12


Pro 18:21 ...

and WoF has found a way to manipulate this.

Karen, if WoF followers don't say word like cancer and such, what word didn't they use for your diagnosis?

WoF pundits claim that they can control the weather. if you cannot, you don't have faith. We had 3 or 4 days advance that Isaac might hit. Yet, not one of them hopped on their own private jet to "rebuke" the storm as it approached. Either they are full of it or very heartless.

Darlene, WoF is far beyond just name it and claim it. very deceptive...very pleasing to the ear. Notice as you watch them, they are very sarcastic and demeaning. characteristics of some cult members that we see here everyday.
---aka on 8/29/12


Amen Cluny!!!
---KarenD on 8/29/12


\\They say that words have power. \\

Only GOD'S words have power.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/28/12


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We have a few people who attend our church who are Word of Faith. They won't even say the word cancer when one of their loved ones have it because they don't want to "claim" it. They say that words have power. However, when I was severely ill a couple of months ago, they were the first ones to suggest diagnosis for my problem.
---KarenD on 8/28/12


2Ti 4:2 Preach the word, be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears.

The apostasy from Paul's teachings began even while he was yet living.

Not all are called, elect and justified. The mustard seed has large boughs at maturity.

The Creeds of Christendom have done well what God purposed for them to do, blinding the eyes of those stubborn to the truth.
---Phil on 8/28/12


Darlene,
if you google

"YouTube Myles Munroe Prayer"

there are 6 videos where he teaches on prayer. Each video is about 10 minutes long.

He starts out sounding very solid.

Then the teaching morphs into the base of the WOF doctrine, which is that God has no authority on earth. That man must give permission for God to get involved with the affairs of the world.

In this vicious mangling of the truth, man is Supreme.

Be VERY careful and discerning. He is VERY dynamic, and has a captivating style. And the transition from truth to error is hidden extremely well
---James_L on 8/28/12


aka thank you for all that reference material. I think I know but can you tell me if I'm right? As I understand teaching the Word of faith is showing how faith moves God to move the mountains in our lives. It is about believing God's Word and putting it into action through prayer. The Word Of Faith is more Name It and Claim It,something like that,or even to the opposite if you have a sickness don't claim it,I had a friend who told me that and I never believed it,anyway both are to the extreme.
---Darlene_1 on 8/28/12


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"They said he was in a Baptist Church which practiced Pentecostal also. They called the church a Baptiscostal Church."

I do not know if he still does, but Eddie Long is/was the lead, bishop, king (now apparently) of a baptist megachurch in Georgia...New Birth Missionary Baptist Church.

Many schisms of every denomination especially baptist are being swept up by WoF movements. it is usually the parts of the denominations that lean to "pentecostalism".
---aka on 8/28/12


"Test all things, hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

We are expected to test what is good. And hold to what is good. So, God does expect us to judge, to be able to tell the difference. Faith is not blind, then.

We can test if it is good to marry someone, then, and not be fooled. With God, we can. He considers this to be a realistic expectation. So, He commands us to do this.

With Him we have trustworthy testing.
---willie_c: on 8/28/12


Darlene:

The Watchman's Bagpipes: Random Apostasies and Heresies

Word of Faith Movement History
Brief History of the Word of Faith Movement - Jack Zavada

Are You a Victim or a Victor? - A Call for Discernment - Justin Peters Ministries (This seminar contains dozens of audio and video clips (primarily the latter) of various WoF leaders such as Benny Hinn, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, Jessie Duplantis, Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen, T. D. Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, - Benny Hinn, Frederick K.C. Price, Jan and Paul Crouch, K.A. Paul, Paula And Randy White, Mike Murdock, Rod Parsley, John Hagee, etc. etc) youtube

very good seminar
---aka on 8/27/12


Rob I looked him up and didn't find anything about the Word of Faith. They said he was in a Baptist Church which practiced Pentecostal also. They called the church a Baptiscostal Church. I was looking for the WoF information if you know a source I could read that too I would like to see it. Thanks and I know that preachers and churches sometimes focus on some things too much and never preach the truth of them either. Sad how easy people jump on the band wagon of some taching without knowing if it even lines up with the Bible. A faith walking Christian is great but not if they exclude all the other important parts of being a Christian.
---Darlene_1 on 8/27/12


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Who really cares about someone who nobody has ever heard of? This is just plain gossip. We are supposed to refrain from gossip.

Start praising the Lord, instead of spreading gossip.
---Trish on 8/27/12


This happened back in February. Why are you fussing about it now?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/27/12


Darlene 1, this is only one example of all the foolishness you will see happening in the Word of Faith Movement.

What is sad is so many people are caught up in this mess and are believing and following these servants of Satan, Romans 1:18-32, 2 Corinthians Chapter Eleven, and 2 Peter Chapter Two.
---Rob on 8/27/12


Eddie who????
---KarenD on 8/27/12


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I have no idea who this Eddie L Long is nor can I imagine why anyone would try to make him a king. That is foolishness in action! God is our King and that makes us one of the Royal Family of God. That is the best and why would anyone think he needed more? Its so disgusting all the mess of names people come up with to bestow on mere mortals a title to try to make them higher in this life,insanity. They all mean nothing!!
---Darlene_1 on 8/27/12


lolololololololol

Well, don't we all have the ability to want to be "king" somehow over other people . . . including being king by being superior to "WOF" people? Maybe we are jealous?

Speaking only for myself, here.

Where does my attention belong instead of looking at all the wrong stuff?

If God is always doing good, why is so much of our attention to what wrong people are doing . . . considering that at every moment God is succeeding in doing His good???? Whose kingdom is our attention in, then?
---willie_c: on 8/27/12


Like So Many on t b n( transgressing Biblical necessities ), daystar & others, just the Fulfilling of their flesh & God has ' NOTHING ' to do with it.
---Lawrence on 8/27/12


I don't fall for this.

What's more, I don't even know who Eddie Long is.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/27/12


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