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Should I Date Someone Poor

I am in my 50's and financially stable and have saved money for my future. I am dating someone who has no savings or financial assets to his name. Should I continue dating him?

Moderator - Odds are he could be an irresponsible person. Talk to him and find out.

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The New Ageers believe:

Belief in Deity
God is the impersonal life force, consciousness, ultimate truth and reality, the incorporeal, formless cosmic order personified within all people and matter. God is all and all are God.


that statement is not found in holy scripture why you have made poverty an idol. new-agers follow a poverty doctrine by their own deity they are not followers of the Lord Jesus and misuse unrelated bible verses to push their poverty agenda.
As I already stated Kath has made poverty her idol. teaches people poverty and squalor are righteous and the rich are evil. Two deceptive beliefs taught by men not by God. The new-agers posts have begun to show true colors anger and contempt. Peace
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/8/12


//Choosing to lump together people who refuse to work and people who are in a temporary state of financial distress is manipulating. // i think that what jed is doing.

Kathr, all the glory be to God and not me. we are all spiritual welfare recipients (John 3:16). this is a freedom that not one man can pay for through his own efforts.

------aka on 9/7/12 br>
ABSOLUTELY

I'll bet anything these two, Jed and Follower of Christ (Not to be confused with Christian Follower) think they can WORK and pay their own way into heaven...or have never come to the conclusion they are spiritually BANKRUPT. And their PRIDE will not allow them to even believe Jesus paid it all...

These are the New Agers, end time anti-Christs.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/12


\\I was able to provide for a family of four on a $15,000 salary in a responsible way that was not living beyond our means\\
---Jed on 9/7/12

When? 1972?
---James_L on 9/7/12


Follower of Christ OR should we say Jed, ...YOU are a moron!
The New Ageers believe:

Belief in Deity
God is the impersonal life force, consciousness, ultimate truth and reality, the incorporeal, formless cosmic order personified within all people and matter. God is all and all are God.


Incarnations
Most believe there are no particular incarnations to worship, as all in the universe are embodiments of God.


Origin of Universe and Life
The universe, life, and matter were not created by God but "are" God. The universe and life emerged out of the creative power of the eternal universal life force.

You're a follower of your own imagination and IGNORANCE.

A REALLY STUPID POST!
---kathr4453 on 9/7/12


---Follower_of_Christ on 9/7/12

prove it by quotes

//Choosing to lump together people who refuse to work and people who are in a temporary state of financial distress is manipulating. // i think that what jed is doing.

Kathr, all the glory be to God and not me. we are all spiritual welfare recipients (John 3:16). this is a freedom that not one man can pay for through his own efforts.

as i said before, they are right to the point that they can see.
---aka on 9/7/12




Kathr, you are the one here throwing out rediculous acusations, making assumptions, and putting others down simply because I said that people who live beyond their means are irresponsible. I did not say that poor people are irresponsible. I said that people who live beyond their means are irresponsible. Big difference. As I already pointed out I was able to provide for a family of four on a $15,000 salary in a responsible way that was not living beyond our means. It doesn't matter how much you make, you don't have to live paycheck to paycheck. If you do it on a small salary you would still do it on a huge salary because your problem is not an income problem, it's a responsibility problem.
---Jed on 9/7/12


Jed is that your answer? All welfare recepients are heroes to me?
No one here ever brought up welfare but you.

Your reply is totally IRRESPONSIBLE! and totally slanderous to those who are not on welfare here to begin with.

I guess you just ran out of excuses.
---kathr4453 on 9/7/12


according to Kath you have all your priorities straight if you are poor, receiving welfare, and live a life of squalor. You have your priorities straight if you expect hand outs and feed off of people who work hard and earn a living. Choosing to lump together people who refuse to work and people who are in a temporary state of financial distress is manipulating. the inability to see past the doctrine of devils taught at your church where the poor are bowed down to and the rich are held in contempt. The same rich who pay the bills at the church and keep it operating and are only good enough for their money. new-age Christian priorities a teaching that teaches people to make an idol out of being in a state of deliberate poverty.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/7/12


All welfare recipients are heroes to Kathr.
---Jed on 9/7/12


aka, Now Jed is making excuses BLAMING his judgemental attitude on others. While stating I knew someone who had the confidence in himself alone, and not his car or name brands flashing like a neon light to do his talking for him, Jed went off the deep. Why, because Jed uses his money and psychology to manipulate and ABUSE others. It's called NEW Money vs OLD Money. NEW money is OBNOXIOUX!

Funny those extra posts were "ALL SCRIPTURE".. and THEN Jed complained.

aka, your a hero to me. The sacrifices you have made to take care of your children are worth more than anything in this world. You are a Christian, belonging to the Lord, the greatest gift and treasure of all. YOU have your priorities straight. Jed does not.
---kathr4453 on 9/7/12




Jed: Who brought up welfare? I certainly did not. You can not deny that you made a blatant statement that a person who is broke is broke due to their personal lack of responsibility.

Welfare was never mentioned by me, nor anyone else. Sometimes tragic events occur, that overwhelm a family's ability to pay, such as in Mark's situation. He was not blaming anyone, but he certainly was not in a position to pay all of the medical bills his insurance wouldn't pay. That is not being irresponsible. That is called an overwhelming burden that most families could/would not be able to pay.
---Christian_Follower on 9/6/12


Your original message was that if a person is poor, it's because they were irresponsible, no excuses or exceptions.---Christian_Follower on 9/6/12

That was not at all my message. I simply asked Kathr why a successful man would purposefully make himself appear to be poor in order to get a date. Many perfectly virtuous women may have well passed him by thinking that he has a responsibility issue. I did not say there are absolutely no exceptions. Sometimes life deals you a bad hand, but it is your hand and your responsibility to play the cards you are dealt. If you're trying to suggest as Kathr does, that there is no corrolation between welfare recipients and irresponsible living then you are sadly mistaken.
---Jed on 9/6/12


MODERATOR...Please answer our question. Why are a few people allowed to make multiple posts in a day and others are not? I really believe these couple of people are monitors and often make up stories to make the blogs more juicy.
---KarenD on 9/6/12


Did anyone read the story this week about a woman in Phoenix who was stung by a scorpion. The Hopsital bill was $87,000. YEP 40,000 x two doses of antidote. Funny how this exact antidote is only $100.00 across the border in Mexico. Her insurance didn't cover it all either, and well, you can guess the rest. The elderly woman, did not have the money saved up for such an occurance.

Sorry to hear about your son Mark_Eaton. I did not get out of your post you EXPECTED anyone to forgive your ramainder of your bills.

All I saw was the facts.
---kathr4453 on 9/6/12


Jed: I believe you missed Mark's point. A lot of doctors will accept what the insurance allows, and don't charge more. Many will let the difference go, especially in hardship situations.

Your original message was that if a person is poor, it's because they were irresponsible, no excuses or exceptions. His question was, is he to blame for the financial mess his family was in due to the medical care of his child? How, if at all, were he or his wife, IRRESPONSIBLE?
---Christian_Follower on 9/6/12


//Kathr is able to post several posts..which no one else is allowed to do.// jed -this is not a true statement. while kathr does seem to post several posts at one time, she is not the only one. there are even a couple that get to post when a blog has already reached 75 replies.as she says, get over it. as some are blessed with money, she is blessed in other ways including money. are you trying to deny her something that you do not have? as i recall she has a nice audi (or something) and she can post several times per round. jed, you must not be being obedient as you thought in your own mind.

kathr, jed is right for as far as he can see. to him, i am irresponsible and disobedient. this is just a modern spin on an age old issue.
---aka on 9/6/12


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So Mark Eaton, you're blambing the doctors for not forgiving you of your bills? Do you expect them to work for free? They saved your son's life and you don't think you should pay them for their work? Okay, blame them I guess.

Kathr, actually I was not the one who brought politics into this. You are the one who started that by saying I repeat Glenn Beck. And it does make a difference when the rest of us have to make our points one at a time due to the 125 word limit while you get all the space you want to make multiple arguments at once.
---Jed on 9/6/12


interesting. My guess from Kathr's latest post telling everyone to get over it is that Kathr is a moderator. afterall we would need to get over the fact we don't have the same opportunity to make a dozen posts in a row. if there were a prosperity gospel america no longer has it. The Christian religions today teach the poor gospel and being chained to squalor and also teach it is a sin to be rich neither message is found in the written word. . Peace.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/6/12


"blame everyone else for your choices"
---Jed on 9/6/12

Here is my own personal example. Who should I blame?

My son was born with Laryngeal Papillomatosis that mainfested itself when he was 2 years old. This disease required surgery every 2-8 weeks for the rest of his 26 years. Even with the best insurance around, the bills overwhelmed my wife and I. Inside four years, we were unable to pay the doctor, hospital, anesthesiologists, and laboratory bills. None of these would write off the remainder of the bill to help us financially. And unfortunately, there are no foundations to assist with the treatment of this disease. Consequently, we filed bankruptcy because of the mounting debt and to stop the collection calls.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/6/12


Jed, who is talking politics here? YOU ARE!

This has nothing to do with politics or obama or anything of the sort.

You have turned it into a political argument.

AND my posting has not kept YOU or anyone else from posting..so get over it!
---kathr4453 on 9/6/12


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However the Word of God is from everlasting to everlasting....
---kathr4453 on 9/6/12

I agree. Perhaps if you start reading it you would learn a lot. It's not bad enough we have to hear Obama's annoying voice spewing all those attrocious lies out of his ugly mug on a daily basis. Now we get on christianet and have to see the same exact rhetoric from Kathr as well. The same old "you're a victim of the rich" and "blame everyone else for your choices" garbage that hasn't worked for Obama for the last 4 years is not going to work for Kathr either.
---Jed on 9/6/12


I agree with Jed, 9 posts by Kath in 2 days!

Moderators why does this happen? Kath person dominates multiple topics often with dozen posts in a row turning topic to controlled preaching by one.

Solomon richest man who ever lived. King David, Abram, and Job among others were blessed with wealth. religion teaches poverty and squalor. holy scripture does not teach the sin of being poor, however it asks us to be humble, kind, to the poor of heart and poor in spirit. Difference between lazy people who are responsible for their poor financial state expecting people to give to them always and wrongly believing they are better than the rich they take from and people who are in a state of temporary financial distress.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/6/12


As we continue to see, Jed still has "no scripture" to back up his attitude, but gives us some yadda yadda yadda nonsense making himself try to look good??? all the while preaching the Gospel of America that has only been around for ONLY the past 200 years. The PROSPERITY GOSPEL!

However the Word of God is from everlasting to everlasting....
---kathr4453 on 9/6/12


Interesting how Kathr is able to post several posts in a row which no one else is allowed to do.

I do believe in helping the poor and I give nearly half of my income to the poor. I have no problem with helping the poor, I do have a problem with funding the lazy. And I also have a problem with the poor not taking responsibility for their situation and blambing others. I often do talk about giving God the glory for what I have. But I think there are all too many people who want to focus on God giving and providing everything to you free of charge and not enough people focusing on our responsibility to use the gifts and talents that he's already given you to provide for yourself and your family. God does expect us to do for ourselves.
---Jed on 9/6/12


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Jed: If you are so spiritual, as you claim to be, why do your answers never include mention of giving God the glory? Why don't you actually pose spiritual questions as blog questions, instead of just political questions?

As for the claim that God helps those who help themselves, please explain what Jesus meant in the Beatitudes about not worrying about tomorrow, for tomorrow will take care of itself. Matthew 6:25-34. It seems to contradict your claim that that God helps those that helps themselves.
---Christian_Life on 9/6/12


Jed...God does not tell anyone to save money. In fact, HE said to build up our treasures in Heaven, not on Earth.
---KarenD on 9/6/12


Well Jed, God does bless obedience, HOWEVER you have failed to show any scripture stating that obedience to God is having a savings account with enough money to buy a Jaguar at whim.

You actually preach the gospel of Glenn Beck and Neil Bortz who are NOT SAVED or have a personal relationship with the Lord to begin with.

Jesus said, the poor will always be with us, and NEVER CONDEMNED THEM for being poor or added anything you added as to why.

Is your faith so strong,that if the Lord chooses to take it all away from you Jed...every last penny, you can STILL PRAISE GOD as Job did....THAT's a real Christian.

You've never been tested like Job! First having and THEN losing it all.
---kathr4453 on 9/6/12


Deuteronomy 15:11
For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.

1 Samuel 2:7
The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.

Isaiah 25:4
For thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall.
---kathr4453 on 9/6/12


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James has much to say about the poor and arrogance against those who are poor.

That arrogance reminds me of Jed and the Jeds of this world. God does not condemn the poor...only the JED's of this world who will be judged by God.

James 2:5-7

5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
---kathr4453 on 9/6/12


Kathr, that's an aweful lot of assuming you're doing. You assume I don't thank God for the good times? Of course I do. You assume I've never had to depend on the Lord for everything? Yes I have and I still do for everything I have. But there is one thing you do have seriously wrong. The fact is, God does help those who help themselves. He doesn't bless irresponsibility. He blesses obedience and responsibility.
---Jed on 9/5/12


---Jed on 9/5/12

That's wonderful Jed...but where is God in all of this. The way I see it, shouldn't you be thanking God for the good times, and then when those BAD TIMES COME, you are still praising GOD, and not yourself.

AKA has so much to praise God for too. He has a home and a roof over his head, a job and beautiful children who know how much their father LOVES THEM.

Some of the wealthiest families do not LOVE their children. Yep they provide for their physical needs and DO NOT provide for their moral, emotional or spiritual needs and these kids grow up having an entitlement attitude. Totally unappreciative to anyone. There's two sides to every coin.
---kathr4453 on 9/5/12


Jed, again, who are you to JUDGE AKA and his situation a the moment. Maybe GOD wants him exactly right where he is for another purpose. You fail to acknowledge spiritual aspects to one's life.

That's what is so arrogant and hypocritical about people who have never had to depend totally on the Lord for anything. They fall into this false teaching that God helps those who help themselves.

Maybe when the Lord is showing AKA something and maybe this is the only way to show and teach him. He may be teaching aka a deeper FAITH and trust and total dependence that brings GREAT REWARDS AND RICHES Jed will never have.

Jed is the poor irresponsible one here.
---kathr4453 on 9/5/12


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"I don't save because my expenses are about what my income is." ---aka on 9/4/12

That's the part that makes you irresponsible. You acting like you don't have the power to change this doesn't change the fact that you really can change it if you choose to make the right choices.

Kathr, at least I can go to bed at night knowing that if something happens I will be able to fulfil the biggest responsibility God has given me. And that is providing for my family first. Our first responsibility is not to donate to charity, although I do. My first responsibility is to make sure my family is fed and provided for, which includes planning and saving for emergencies. You have it backwards.
---Jed on 9/5/12


KarenD, sorry Jed got you confused with me. BUT again to say Obama or Rosie is some political garbage only Glenn Beck, Neal Bortz or teh likes would spew out...this is not something a pastor would preach from the pulpet.

No, Job was not irresponsible, but TESTED BY GOD where GOD took all away from Job to test his heart.

Moses left the Riches of EGYPT to SUFFER with the people of God...

OUR RICHES are in Heavenly Places IN CHRIST.

Don't let the likes of of the JEDS in this world get under your skin...
---kathr4453 on 9/5/12


jed, i did not say you said that, but the inference is there. it goes like this: i assume that i am going to receive another paycheck and i do not save in case. therefore, since i do not plan ahead i am in fact irresponsible to the point of worthlessness. however, you assume that i am waiting on another paycheck. not in my line of business. i don't save because my expenses are about what my income is. again, there are no luxuries, and i cook our food. i cannot work extra because babysitting is more than i can make at an odd job. if i were irresponsible, i could go overseas and make a pretty penny. but i would be putting the kid's in grave danger and i do not think they should be abandoned either. btw-in your book, Job was irresponsible.
---aka on 9/4/12


Jed...You are definitely out of touch with reality because I said none of the things you accused me of saying. It appears as if you have me confused with Kathr4453. This pentecostal woman takes offense that you mention my name in the same sentence as Rosie O'Donnell and Obama. It is sad that you have such cruel things to say about your parents.
---KarenD on 9/5/12


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KarenD, You listen to the likes of Rosie O'Donnel and Barack Obama instead of the Lord. how dare you call my parents losers. I did not call them losers. I will however admit that they were and still are very irresponsible people. You judgeing me for being judgemental of others is very ironic. You also lie when you use words that I did not say.

Aka, you also lie about me. I did not say you were worthless as you stated. I said people who do not save for their future are irresponsible. It's irresponsible to assume that you will get another paycheck. Responsible people save everything they can so they can take care of their family. I did not say that irresponsible people are worthless like you did.
---Jed on 9/4/12


aka, Jed is influenced by Glenn Beck and not the Lord. Jed's comments are POLITICALLY motivated, not spiritually.

Jed believes his dad and mother were both loosers(he's mental) and wants to take that anger on others NOW THAT HE HAS A JAGUAR to do his talking for him. God will deal with his arrogance IF Jed really is a christian.
When People see Jed, HE THINKS they say..."oh look at that successful man", but what no one says is..."Oh Look at that GODLY MAN".

AKA, God Bless you. God will richly bless you in Heavenly Places In Christ...something Jed doesn't have. He only puts "the Jeds" in our way to test our faith and true desires of our heart.

Praise God for what you have!
---kathr4453 on 9/4/12


Jed, you are my hero!

in this blog, you make sweeping judgements of everyone not like you, and then on another blog say that you are not nonjudgmental others.

i do not blame anyone else for where i am, and i take total responsibility for what is and how i got here. some of it, i cannot understand myself.

but, then again there is you. you not only judge me but you judge God. Job did nothing to lose his health and wealth, but yet it was.

maybe, you should take a step or two back from your mirror, quit typing from both sides of the keyboard, and apologize to God. Your sweeping judgments just might not be from the Lord.
---aka on 9/3/12


Of course the irresponsible people on this blog will continue to blame their actions on others instead of admit the fact that they are where they are in life because of choices that they have made. I learned a long time ago that most people will never change no matter how much truth they hear, they will not listen or change. Not because they are unable to change, but because they are unwilling to change due to their ignorance. People who make excuses and do not take responsiblilty for their own success or failures are irresponsible people and will never be better than what they are and that is why they are where they are in life.
---Jed on 9/3/12


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Jed...You are so far out of touch with reality it is sad. My husband and I live very comfortably but choose to give to the Lord's work and others rather than save for ourselves. I would rather make sure a poor family is fed than have a lot of savings.
---KarenD on 9/3/12


Luke 12:16-32

The land of a rich man was very productive. And....he said, This is what I will do: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years to come.....But God said to him, You fool!....So is the man who stores up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.....But seek His kingdom....


Sometimes, those who are most Kingdom centered look irresponsible to others who aren't
---James_L on 9/3/12


Wow,jed ... You are my hero. i live from month to month on very little salary. i am a single father with three little ones with no support. I do not have family to lean on. we do not have cable and do not have a home phone.

You are calling my children's dad worthless. thank you.
---aka on 9/3/12


Jed, didn't you tell us you came from poverty? or that you were very poor growing up?

Was that due 100% to your father/mother being irresponsible? Is that what you're trying to prove here?

Are you so bitter about those years, maybe kids making fun of you growing up because you didn't have all teh KOOL things they did?

For some reason, now that you are successful and driving around in that Jaguar to PROVE your success everywhere you go in it...I just wonder if you can be OBJECTIVE here on this subject.

I don't think you can be OBJECTIVE.

We need the objectivness/opinion of someone who HAD money and through this economy lost it.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/12


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Most people in this country live paycheck to paycheck without the ability to save money.
---KarenD on 9/2/12

They are not without the ability to save money. They choose not to. That is called irresponsibility, and it is a choice. Living paycheck to paycheck and not saving money means you are not living within your means and that is a very irresponsible action. Anyone can save money no matter what your income is. I know this first hand as I have raised a family of four on as little as $15,000 a year and still been able to live comfortably and save money. It's all a matter of priorities and responsible choices. If you live paycheck to paycheck on a little income, nothing would change even if you had a huge income.
---Jed on 9/2/12


I do agree this post wants to push the be poor story so that false doctrine be poor in your life here on earth so you will have a bigger reward in the afterlife. Or as the catholic religion teaches you give more now and your sins will be forgiven or you will bypass their purgatory gig.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/1/12


OR are You pushing the prosperity Gospel that somehow if you are rich you are blessed by God and if you are poor somehow you are not blessed by God and are in sin.

Jesus became POOR so that you could be RICH IN THE SPIRITUAL RICHES of Christ, not earthly riches of satan. That unfortunately is called the Gospel of America.
---kathr4453 on 9/2/12


FollowerofChrist...Most people in this country live paycheck to paycheck without the ability to save money.
---KarenD on 9/2/12


There is a difference between being poor and being BROKE.

What I don't hear this woman say is...BUT he is a genuine warm sincere caring wonderful CHRISTIAN MAN.......

So before any act as judge and jury let Ms. Confused tell us WHAT attracted her to this man to begin with. His love for Jesus Christ? The riches he has in Christ?

HOW MANY times has she gone out with this man....DATING is not (1)date. Dating is an ongoing situation. He obviously did not pick her up on that FIRST date in a Jaguar. WHY did she go for a second date or third or forth = DATING? Her obvious lack of words here says it all.....

Mr. poor man.....DUMP THIS WOMAN!

---kathr4453 on 9/2/12


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//If they had been responsible with savings and financial assets they could pay rent, have food, and get themselves through lean times without a job and guess what they wouldn't be poor. //

for some, i can agree with you. but, as for others, they are in jobs that don't pay enough to do as you suggest.

you can be financially rich and spiritually poor. just ask lazarus and the rich man.
---aka on 9/1/12


\\there is nothing wrong about dating a poor person...\\
---francis on 8/31/12


\\Poor is when you can't find a job, can't pay the rent, can't put food on the table, etc....\\
---KarenD on 9/1/12


Good ansewr, Karen. In addition, poor is also a state of mind.

I know many people who are considered middle class because of their income, but they are poor because all they do is whine about not having enough.
---James_L on 9/1/12


So Karen D. We have about 10% unemployment. many of those have been unemployed for months and are not able to find a job. If they had been responsible with savings and financial assets they could pay rent, have food, and get themselves through lean times without a job and guess what they wouldn't be poor. I do agree this post wants to push the be poor story so that false doctrine be poor in your life here on earth so you will have a bigger reward in the afterlife. Or as the catholic religion teaches you give more now and your sins will be forgiven or you will bypass their purgatory gig.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/1/12


Not having savings or financial assets does not make someone poor. Poor is when you can't find a job, can't pay the rent, can't put food on the table, etc . I know many a "rich" person who has no savings or financial assets, but who have the joy of the Lord and are serving HIM rather than accumuating material things. This sounds like just another fake question posted to get more responses on these blogs.
---KarenD on 9/1/12


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anon: //aka, yes I do remain single. I don't even date,// good

//One day God looked down and said, "She's had enough"// i've been there.

//aka, would you want God to have kept me in the marriage for reasons of Domestic Violence?// no... you had told someone else that there was only one reason.

//aka, do you disapprove that God led me the entire way to file the divorce and wait 2 years until my husb. would sign the papers? // no, i had to wait longer for financial reasons and she had to get in bad trouble, so it was undeniable.

//that the marriage YOU wanted me to stay in?// it was YOU that said there was no reason other than adultery not ME. i was asking these questions based on what you had told another.
---aka on 8/31/12


I know a guy who is loaded, and when he met someone he was interested in dating, bought an old beat up car, just to make sure if it worked out that she liked him for who he was and not what he had.

this guy loved his money so much he set up deception about himself a screwy honorable approach of half-truths setting up the women to determine if she valued him. guess this women didn't value herself if she stayed with this man once she found out.

I agree with moderator the odds are he is irresponsible assuming he is near her age. guess we will never know because she never wrote back to fill us in.
---Follower_of_Christ on 8/31/12


Could be he's just not as financially blessed as you. Being without savings doesn't make a person irresponsible, just makes them without savings. If I lived in a home and you in an apatment does tha make you "homeless"? Money should not be the deciding factor of whether to CONTINUE to date someone. Sounds to me like you may need some soul searching.
---Dorenda on 8/31/12


aka, yes I do remain single. I don't even date, Jesus is the Lover of My Soul and I'm sold out to him.

aka, also about my divorce, not that I have to explain this to you but I let my ex beat me up all during my marriage. One day God looked down and said, "She's had enough" and my husband called 911, not me, and they came and arrested him for Domestic Voilence.

aka, would you want God to have kept me in the marriage for reasons of Domestic Violence?

aka, do you disapprove that God led me the entire way to file the divorce and wait 2 years until my husb. would sign the papers? Then he began to stalk me and is still telling people he is going to kill me, so is that the marriage YOU wanted me to stay in?
---anon on 8/31/12


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I am in my 50's and financially stable and have saved money for my future. I am dating someone who has no savings or financial assets to his name. Should I continue dating him?
---Confused on 8/29/12

No you should not.
It is obvious by your post that you are not confortable or content with this relationship.
While there is nothing wrong about dating a poor person, there is something wrong if you are in a relationship in which you are insecure.
Be honest and let him / her know that you are not at ease with this relationship and end it before you get hurt
---francis on 8/31/12


anon, you said in another blog

//Maria, Read what Jesus said about Divorce. You can only get divorced for reasons of adultery.//

Did the evil lurking in your ex's heart include adultery? because that is not what i would think from what you wrote.

//Also, the Apostle Paul said, "If she does leave, she is to remain single."//

Did you remain single?
---aka on 8/30/12


I did it and although things didn't work out for other reasons, I don't regret marrying a very poor man. However, if he looks to you and not God for financial stability then that's not a good thing.
God judges by the thoughts and intentions of the heart, we should do the same. See what's inside his heart. There was evil lurking inside my ex-husband's heart and it turned violent on me so I had no choice but to leave and file for divorce.
Don't let him know you are financially stable, I made the mistake of letting him know and he got ALOT of money that wasn't his through the divorce. Pray and ask God what to do...God will lead you and guide you into All Truth. God Bless You!
---anon on 8/30/12


---Mark_Eaton on 8/30/12


Listen up, folks. There's wisdom in the words of this man.

God bless you, Mark E
---James_L on 8/30/12


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Dear Confused:

I read a lot of "I" and "my" but no "God" in your question. Why is that?

God has blessed you. God has poured into your life. Perhaps, God has done this so that YOU can support the man in your life. Perhaps this man has lived his life not desiring to own property, not amassing personal wealth but rather cheerfully giving it to others in need.

Odds are not that he is an irresponsible person. Moderator, you are judgmental in your attitude.

Talking with him is the prudent answer. But, first talking to God is the right answer.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/30/12


Deuteronomy 8:11-20
...when you have eaten and are satisfied, and have built good houses and lived in them....then your heart will become proud and you will forget the Lord your God....say in your heart, My power and the strength of my hand made me this wealth......It shall come about if you ever forget the Lord your God....I testify against you today that you will surely perish."

Hosea 13:6 When I fed them, they were satisfied, when they were satisfied, they became proud, then they forgot me.

Proverbs 30:8-9
Give me neither poverty nor riches, Feed me with the food that is my portion, That I not be full and deny You and say, Who is the Lord? Or that I not be in want and steal, And profane the name of my God.
---James_L on 8/30/12


Because if she loves him poor, then she truly loves HIM and not his wealth, Jed.

Lot of gold diggers out there now.
---CraigA on 8/30/12


Well Jed, because not everyone is you or thinks like you, and since YOU are not a woman, why are you even answering as though you were a woman.

Now you answer the complete opposite of all your other posts too, why is that?

So NOW Jed thinks anyone who doesn't have a brand new car is a looser.

It's all about the "CAR" isn't it Jed. And (shallow)woman measure a guy by the kind of car they drive..right? He knows that too.

Which really is shallow and THATS where you find ..or should I say, weed out the real LOOSERS of Woman!

So maybe to him,an old beat up car was anything BUT a Jaguar...HAHA!
---kathr4453 on 8/30/12


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I know a guy who is loaded, and when he met someone he was interested in dating, bought an old beat up car, just to make sure if it worked out that she liked him for who he was and not what he had. ---kathr4453 on 8/29/12

Why would someone want to make themselves look like they are irresponsible and suck at life just to get a woman? The only kind of women that would attract are ones who are also irresponsible and bad with money. Any self respecting responsible woman would have passed on him, not because she only wants money, but because she doesn't want a loser.
---Jed on 8/29/12


I know a guy who is loaded, and when he met someone he was interested in dating, bought an old beat up car, just to make sure if it worked out that she liked him for who he was and not what he had.

Even financially stable men or women can still be greedy for more..

It worked. They were married and she had no idea just how well off he was...

---kathr4453 on 8/29/12


\\She also didn't say why she is single in her 50's.\\

I know a woman who was widowed in her 30's.

It happens.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/29/12


FolloweofChrist...She didn't say how old he is. She also didn't say why she is single in her 50's. Would like to have more info, like is she financially stable because she got a good divorce settlement? Is the man going to college? She says nothing about him other than his financial condition. Seems like he needs to dump her if all she cares about is money.
---KarenD on 8/29/12


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\\these people are financially wiped out.\\
---Follower

It woke many up to the perils of being Followers of Moths


\\proof of how why when where his adult life is in financial ruin\\
---Follower_of_Moths

Who said anything about being in financial ruin? That's pure speculation.

If you think that someone is in a state of ruin just because there isn't a surplus, then maybe you don't know the power of God's provision.

You think the apostle Paul had a 401k somewhere that he was witholding from the Macedonians, when he said "I can do all things through Christ Who gives me strength" ??

That was, after all, in the context of him asking them for money (Philippians4:10-19)
---James_L on 8/29/12


during 2011 many who outwardly appeared to be bright and responsible adults quit their jobs to follow a man who claimed the end of the world was coming - remember harold Camping? These people gave him all of their savings and assets (homes cars cash) these people are financially wiped out. once you marry, depending on the state, your assets become his and unless he has proof of how why when where his adult life is in financial ruin then discontinue seeing him immediately because unless he is in the process of actively rebuilding his life and financial house he could bring you to ruin too. If he has lived his entire adult life like this then if he is in his 50's too unlikely he will change.
---Follower_of_Christ on 8/29/12


\\Most believers recognize the end of this wicked age is approaching, and that swiftly.\\

For the last 2000 years, Christians have believed that.

Of course, there has always been a apocalyptoparanoid school of thought among Christians, but this is in fact the MINORITY, not most.

Jesus will come when He comes, and it's useless to set dates or listen nervously for that last trumpet.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/29/12


Most believers recognize the end of this wicked age is approaching, and that swiftly.

It is likely your savings will be wiped out, and your preparations made void by the politcal system we have. The transfer of debt is being placed upon the little guy, and the bankers are going free.

It is the plan of God.

If faith in Christ is not the cord that binds you to this poor man, then you will only add hurt to your life.

Be cautious. There is going to be a crisis for everyone before the lawless one steps on the scene, and keep your freedom and peace as long as you can.
---Phil on 8/29/12


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Gosh, I sure hope that if and when I come to meet another female of consideration, that the most important point of discussion is not my bank balance!

If you are dating, you should be considering relationship and that takes commitment.

If he is a Christian, if he has fruits of the Spirit and perhaps a ministry, his poverty reflects what?
---chip on 8/29/12


The majority of all the people in the entire world have not even enough for today, much less stockpiling for the future.

Most people who see themselves as financially stable really mean financially secure.

If you have found your security in money rather than God, then your boyfriend might be in better shape than you
---James_L on 8/29/12


Confused....Is money everything that matters in life? Just because someone does not have a lot of material things and no savings doesn't mean they are irresponsible. Maybe he spends his money on the Lord's work instead of himself. He might also be keeping his financial situation to himself.
---KarenD on 8/29/12


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