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Should Abortions Be Legal

Do ya think abortion should be a woman's decision? Do you think it should be legal? Should we say that our president condones murder?

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See JamesL, you obviously proved that point. I told FOC to just cap Liberal once and he wouldn't have to say it 10 times in one post. ONE BIG CAP says it 10 times and then some.

We all have our quirks...mine is CAPING words rather than bolding. My eyes have a hard time with the < and > and / and < / with > and so on.

Loved your post on the Son of God.
---kathr4453 on 9/19/12


Best way to make absolutely sure that your post makes it onto the board?

Type in CAPS LOCK. It seems to work every time
---James_L on 9/19/12


Maybe opinions don't always make it, but FACTS
---kathr4453 on 9/19/12

Kathr, this is simply not true. Multiple times I have posted facts that have failed to show up.

CN uses software that screens out keywords and blocks posts, but I also know that Mods will block some posts (that did happen to me when a number of posts did not show, BUT the moderator responded to them.)

Im not sure anyone knows the secret to what gets posted and what doesn't.

That said, I don't believe there is a bill or law, or even one planned, that REQUIRES doctors to perform abortions.
---NurseRobert on 9/19/12


NurseRobert, I really believe if a bill that is so important actually WAS going to be in effect, tht post would make it without a doubt.

Maybe opinions don't always make it, but FACTS do and I believe even the Mods as well as anyone knows that kind of imformation should not be held back no matter what.

And the Mods would have no motive to not post it.
---kathr4453 on 9/19/12


Nita, you are asking Christians if abortion should be legal, and the answer is no. No one born of the Spirit should even think killing an unborn is a legal thing to do. No president should condone such a terrible thing. What do you think? Do you believe that a baby should be kept inside a womb long enough for someone to drill a hole in the skull of the baby and suck the brains out in order to kill the baby inside the womb? If you or anyone agrees with this methods, they have spoken for their own selfish reasons and not for the life of the child. I call it murder. Very much a selfish act.
---Mark_V. on 9/19/12




Kathr. You need to be careful about the "nothing more to say" comment. I tried to answer an earlier blog. I tried SIX times before I gave up on it. Responses don't always make it
---NurseRobert on 9/18/12


Trish, I appreciate your answer back. I see FOC has nothing more to say. That says it all.

Sadly, when our politicians/citizens go to such extremes to get votes,or their party voted in, spinning lies this way and that, they ALL lose credibility.

God Bless!
---kathr4453 on 9/18/12


Kathr: I have had trouble understanding a lot of your posts, but I do agree with you that the extremes on both sides of the political spectrum are not helping things. I do not agree with the extremists on the left in their anti-Christian stuff. They are not the majority of Democrats, but like the extreme right, they are the most vocal and the ones the media thrives on.

I, like you, am not fond of the lies on either side, and especially find it disturbing that believers, who claim to love Jesus, would spread those lies here on Christianet. People need to fact check, or go to Snopes, to learn the truth, before they spread their lies.
---Trish on 9/18/12


Trish, I have not twisted anything here. Nor do I believe in abortion. What bothers me are these lies the extreme right wing will go to to put fear in others by running off with an issue they only heard another say. They're still followers and not leaders. Same with your LIBERALS TOO. They prey on the ignorance of people, in hopes most will not LOOK UP the truth.

I don't know what a psychologist would call this....POLITICS maybe or delusional maybe?? An IQ test would call them STUPID.

But God calls it SIN. Lying, and perpetuating lies is SIN.

If such a bill is/isn't coming to effect I WANT to know and read it for myself....not just take some political fanatical right wings/or fanatical lefty's words for it.
---kathr4453 on 9/18/12


Another law would make all health care providers kill babies(including catholics) with law forcing them to perform baby killings regardless of beliefs!
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/13/12

FOC, these were your words, verbatim. Please tell us which law is this. The fact is, there is no law currently on the books, nor one being planned. Of course, if Im not correct, you should be able to give us the bill number that Obama is trying to get passed.
---NurseRobert on 9/17/12




Follower: Don't mix me up in your accusations of twisting things up. I haven't done that. I am not like Kathr.

Furthermore, I do not have a baby killing agenda. I believe abortion is sin.

My accusation was, and still is, that the supposed legislation that would require doctors to perform abortions is false. I have searched the Thomas site, and have not found that supposed bill. Therefore, I would continue to say that if you cannot name the legislation being proposed, it is a lie, and you were probably given misinformation.

As I said, abortion is a sin. I am not pro-abortion.
---Trish on 9/17/12


Follower: I am still waiting for the name of the Bill that is going to require all doctors to provide abortions. -----I need to know the names of the evil Liberals who are forcing this Bill to become law.
---Trish on 9/15/12


Sounds like Trish was referring to FUTURE here, and you did not give her the answer you NOW defensively give because you got tcaught in a lie. I see YOU are the problem here Follower, just as Jed likes to twist things too. .


ANS:
Trish why wait for me just look it up, much blessings in your journey, peace
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/15/12

Just give here that FUTURE BILL NUMBER Follower....and be done with it.
---kathr4453 on 9/17/12


Jed (or FOC for that matter). Please point out the section in the the affordable care act that requires Doctors to perform abortions.


NurseRobert I never stated there was an act doctors are to perform abortions today. Seems whenever Trish or Kathr want to further their agendas they rewrite others posts to say something altogether different. assuming it is to further their pro-baby-killing agenda difficult to determine. Frankly, I'm tired of having to explain I never wrote what they twist up and put my name too!!! I found myself in their snare at one point.. Previously I wrote there is legislation (aka future) and that it was written so ambiguously that most lawyers cannot decipher its true motive. Peace
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/17/12


He simply doesn't know right from wrong. In psychology, we call that a psychopath.
---Jed on 9/12/12

Jed, now you say you never said this?
---kathr4453 on 9/17/12

I never denied saying this. Of course I said it. That is not the thing that I denied saying. You acused me of saying sin is not sin. That is what I denied saying because I did not say sin is not sin, as you claimed I did.
---Jed on 9/17/12


He simply doesn't know right from wrong. In psychology, we call that a psychopath.
---Jed on 9/12/12

Jed, now you say you never said this?

Is someone else using your name, or did you think you used another name when posting this and not your name Jed?

You did say it Jed.

No one CARES what psychology calls anything..especially coming out of your mouth.
---kathr4453 on 9/17/12


Jed (or FOC for that matter). Please point out the section in the the affordable care act that requires Doctors to perform abortions.
---NurseRobert on 9/16/12


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The bill is called the Affordable Healthcare Act, otherwise known as Obamacare or socialized healthcare.
---Jed on 9/16/12


Trish why wait for me just look it up, much blessings in your journey, peace
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/15/12


Trish, no such bill exists. If one did Follower would be MORE than anxious to prove it. His answer here says it all. He feels he can say anyting he wants UNTIL you can PROVE him wrong. This is what may be coming ahead with some of these radical right wing people.."Guilty until proven innocent". It's scary.

I really don't know why may don't find liars MORE dangerous or at least AS DANGEROUS?
---kathr4453 on 9/16/12


Follower: There are 73 bills pending with the word abortion in them, in the current Congress. I've been through 10 of them so far, and have not found one that fits your description. Are you sure it is the current Congress?
---Trish on 9/15/12


Trish why wait for me just look it up, much blessings in your journey, peace
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/15/12


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Follower: I am still waiting for the name of the Bill that is going to require all doctors to provide abortions. I have a browser with the Thomas website open and waiting. I really do want to read this Bill. I want to see who the Bill's sponsors are, and what committee the Bill was started in. Also, is it a House Bill, or a Senate Bill?

Please don't keep me waiting. I need to know the names of the evil Liberals who are forcing this Bill to become law.
---Trish on 9/15/12


However, it does not guarantee that her position will be there when she returns to work.
---KarenD on 9/14/12

we do it for people in the military reserves, and natinal guard, why not for women who are having babies?
---francis on 9/15/12


To the first question does a women have a right to kill a baby? The question should be is it morally right for a women to commit a moral wrong and murder her baby?? Legalizing baby killing has one side that says, we have no right to project moral beliefs on others therefore a women should choose. Yet by mothers choice to slaughter her baby she has destroyed the babies rights to choose and taken away the babies moral right to life. Imagine if Mary the mother of Jesus chose to kill him in her womb, afterall she fit the profile of what the billion dollar for-profit baby-killing-mills generally sell: an unwed poor mother, finance not the father, a young women who would bring shame to her family, a quick fix to her pregnancy problem.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/15/12


Francis...No company should be forced to adjust their business practices because a woman decides to have a baby. In the US most larger companies provide for leave of absence when a woman gives birth. However, it does not guarantee that her position will be there when she returns to work. ------KarenD on 9/14/12

I guess it was wrong when a 40 hr work week was enforced, and child labor laws were put into effect. When sweat shops were shut down as these poor laborers were LOCKED into a building that burned. Darn those federal safety issues they enforce too. That darn Federal Government interference is really a pain isn't it?
---kathr4453 on 9/15/12


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The way I look at this issue is that God's bill of rights never gave "a Christian" permission to murder an unborn human being. The world does not care for the what the Lord teaches believers, but every Christian should know if he is a follower of Christ. When a woman is pregnant she carries a human being. The process of killing the unborn is inhuman. Sucking the brains of a child while still in the womb is one of the worst methods of murdering a human being. Those responsible don't hide anymore what they do.
"The look on their countenance witnesses against them, And they declare their sin as Sodom, they do not hide it, Woe to their soul, for they have brought evil upon themselves" (Is. 3:9).
---Mark_V. on 9/15/12


Follower: I'd like to read the bills that are in Congress right now, which you claim are being considered, requiring medical personnel to perform abortions. Give me the name of the bill, or the bill's number. I'll look it up on Congress' website and read it. Every bill being considered by Congress is available to be read on the Thomas website. I've researched many bills and laws, so all I need is its name or number, like HB***** or SB*****.

When you prove it's a bill before Congress, I will gladly apologize for accusing you falsely.
---Trish on 9/14/12


However, it does not guarantee that her position will be there when she returns to work.
---KarenD on 9/14/12

yeah, that may be one of the contributing factors which lead women to have abortions.

Women should not have to choose between careers and family, men don't!
---francis on 9/14/12


Trish do you have anything intelligent to contribute to any post ever??? your mantra that everyone is a liar and bearing false witness is a joke considering it would be you who is lying!! unless hiding the truth no longer lying???

sorry to rain on your parade because everyone has to grow up at some point and face the facts. facts are these laws are pending instead of spreading the lie the laws are not pending face up to the facts. pretending these laws are not pending it would be you spreading lies and bearing false witness.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/14/12


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Jed, it would be nice if you could read your own post to see that YOU SAID, concerning those who don't know right from wrong, "In Psychology "WE" CALL IT-----"

I said "in Scripture we call it SIN".

Maybe if you could read and comprehend, you wouldn't get so overboard with being so defensive over things only your mind has made up.

You seem to like to TWIST things around often.

The word psychopath is not in scripture. SINNER however is.

Now YOU take 2 Mydol and post again tomorrow.
---kathr4453 on 9/14/12


Francis...No company should be forced to adjust their business practices because a woman decides to have a baby. In the US most larger companies provide for leave of absence when a woman gives birth. However, it does not guarantee that her position will be there when she returns to work. Personally, I think one parents should stay home and take care of their children until they are of school age. Of course, today there are too many babies born without daddys in the home.
---KarenD on 9/14/12


Jed, first give scripture where psychologists label sin other than sin?
---kathr4453 on 9/13/12

Well since I never made that statment and don't even agree with it at all, why would you ask me to provide a scripture saying this? I asked you to provide a scripture to back up your claim that the scriptures call psychologists sinners. I never said anything about calling sin anything other than sin. I don't agree with doing that at all. There you go lying about me again.
---Jed on 9/13/12


as reported by the Guttmacher Institute in May 2006 -
10. For women having abortions, 43% are Protestant and 27% identify as Catholic

Guttmacher Institute 2008
37% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 28% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI).

Seems to me that about 2/3 abortions are done by christians.

Maybe the government is not the solution at all.

Rowe V wade is not the problem at all
---francis on 9/14/12


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Follower: There is no such attempt to pass a law requiring tax money to fund abortions, and it is a total lie that there would be a law requiring healthcare providers to perform abortions. Stop spreading lies. This is a Christian website. Bearing false witness is a sin.
---Trish on 9/13/12


Once abortion enters the converation for a christian, it must start with Numbers 5, where a couple may terminate a pregnancy if the wife is pregnant by another man. This is a jew dropping text for many christians.

No law can stop abortions, it can only make abortion unsafe. So how do we reduce abortions.

Here is my short list:

1: EDUCATION: People need to know that that fertilzed egg is the start of a new human life and sacred to God. USE NON INVASIVE ULTRASOUND

2: ENTITLEMENTS: Provide enough assistance so that people can take care of themselves while pregnant, and the baby when it comes.

3: ROLE OF WOMEN IN SOCIETY: Women should not lose career advancement because they take time to have and care for a baby
---francis on 9/13/12


Ren is correct current president supports baby killing wants new law passed using Americans tax payments to support the baby killing industry. Another law would make all health care providers kill babies(including catholics) with law forcing them to perform baby killings regardless of beliefs!

Francis did you know that more than 50 million babies have been killed since Roe vs Wade, and today Roe v Wade plaintiffs are now Christians stating they were used as pawns by liberals and now wanting that case overturned. The bigger deception is billions of dollars baby killing machine makes each year. Imagine profit for murder and we call ourselves a civilized society? how does that square with the verses you misquote from holy scripture?
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/13/12


No
No
Yes
---Ren on 9/13/12


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The biggest obsticle to getting national guidlines, even a law on abortion is the republican party. They know that most of thier middle income to low income voters are single issue voters and that is the single issue.
As long as abortion is legal theyw il always have a large single issue voter base
---francis on 9/13/12


But to what extent is this a job for the government, and to what extent is it for the church and people in general?
I am really not sure....
---Peter on 9/12/12
I am glad that churches have guideline, and acknowledge that abortion is a dificult and unfortunate choice.

The issue with government is monitoring. What people do not yet know is that if abortions are made illegal, then all OB/GYN visits must be reported to the givernment so that they could monitor pregnancies and abortions, just as they do for births and death.
---francis on 9/13/12


Jed: Technically, there are two types of abortions. Spontaneous abortions are more commonly called miscarriages. Surgical abortions are the type being discussed in society.
---Trish on 9/13/12


Kathr, please give the scripture that calls psychologists SINNERS as you claimed?
---Jed on 9/13/12

Jed, first give scripture where psychologists label sin other than sin?
---kathr4453 on 9/13/12


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Looks like Kathr is on her menstral attacking spree again.

Kathr, please give the scripture that calls psychologists SINNERS as you claimed?
---Jed on 9/13/12


Don't you guys ever get tired of fighting and name-calling?
---JackB on 9/13/12


He simply doesn't know right from wrong. In psychology, we call that a psychopath.
---Jed on 9/12/12

There Jed goes again with practicing his "humanistic" medical degree on line or anywhere.

Anyone who disagrees with Jed is now being phycho-analized for FREE EVEN.

In Scripture we call that a SINNER, an unregenerate person.

SIN has now taken new humanistic labels...ones Jed likes to give without authority.
---kathr4453 on 9/13/12


Francis: I would have a different question.

I do not and more than you desire that women should have an abortion 'for any reason'.

But to what extent is this a job for the government, and to what extent is it for the church and people in general?

I am really not sure....
---Peter on 9/12/12


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francis, maybe you really should try to understand, just who is doing this.
---TheSeg on 9/11/12

I dig where you are trying to come from

But first of all it is THE HUSBAND who initiates this, not God.
Numbers 5:15 Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest,

Second even if the husband initiates it, nothing happens unless the woman agrees.

Numbers 5:22 And the woman shall say, Amen, amen

No amen, no abortion / misscarriage. She can choose to carry the baby of another man.

This is also pro choice, the man as you know can choose to do nothing, and the woman does not have to say amen
---francis on 9/12/12


KarenD, just let it go. You're never going to win with Francis by posting scriptures because, as you can see, he will just twist any scripture into meaning what he wants it to mean. He's a sick pup that you simply can't reason with. He thinks a miscarriage is the same thing as abortion for crying out loud. You'll never get anywhere with someone completely unreasonable like him. He simply doesn't know right from wrong. In psychology, we call that a psychopath.
---Jed on 9/12/12


Francis...Why do you continue to call a BABY a seed??? Abortion kills a baby, not a seed.
---KarenD on 9/12/12
Are you sure that I was not just quoting a scripture?

like this one
Numbers 5:28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean, then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
---francis on 9/12/12


Francis...Why do you continue to call a BABY a seed??? Abortion kills a baby, not a seed.
---KarenD on 9/12/12


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Be it further RESOLVED, ... will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, SBC 1971

In continuity with past Christian teaching, we recognize tragic conflicts of life with life that may justify abortion, and in such cases we support the legal option of abortion under proper medical procedures...
The Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church - 2004

It is no longer a question of whether or not christians allow for abortion under tragic conditions. The question is where should people who face these horible choices go to have these church approved abortions: At home, in a motel, Mexica, Canada, or in a state-of-the-art hospital in U S A?
---francis on 9/12/12


raped. I figure she is trying to now justify SDA hospitals performing abortions.
---KarenD on 9/12/12
I do not have to justify SDA hospitals performing abortions

ALL christian denominations make an exception for abortions where the life of the mother is in danger.

So it is expected that ALL hospitals will perform abortions when the life of the mother is in danger

but SDA hospitals do not perform abortions for convenience or birth control.
---francis on 9/12/12


Numbers 5:27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

Deuteronomy 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:

1: It is not God's will that a married woman MUST carry the seed on another man
2: It is not God's will that a woman shold be raped

It is God's will that a womans MUST carry the seed of her rapist?
---francic on 9/12/12


JamesL...Thank you. You are absolutely correct. Francis did not give any scriptures to support killing an unborn baby because the mother was raped. I figure she is trying to now justify SDA hospitals performing abortions.
---KarenD on 9/12/12


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\\...returns the reader to Southern Baptist Convention presidential election of 1979...to 1976


Ummm. do you not read well? The 2003 resolution referenced the ELECTION OF A PRESIDENT in 1979, not any resolutions that year.

Adrian Rogers was elected president in 1979, and BEGAN a conservative shift.

The conservative shift didn't happen overnight. The 1982 resolution was the first to have strong language against abortion


It makes me sick how you intenionally submit propaganda based on out-of-context infomation, and twisting the facts.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself

Really, man. Be honest. That's all
---James_L on 9/12/12


francis,

you didn't answer KarenD at all.

She specifically asked for a scripture that condones killing a baby becasue the mother was raped.

Even if your warped understanding of Numbers 5 happened to be correct,

can you provide even one instance in which a man in the United States has requested an abortion on the grounds that his woman was unfaithful?
---James_L on 9/11/12


James_L on 9/11/12
Resolution #8: On Thirty Years of Roe V. Wade, adopted at the SBC convention, June 2003:

The essensially deals with abortion on demand for any and every reason. and returns the reader to Southern Baptist Convention presidential election of 1979

OK let see 1979

WHEREAS, Messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention have spoken clearly to this issue in 1976 as follow:

OK let's see 1976

WHEREAS, The practice of abortion for selfish non-therapeutic reasons want-only destroys fetal life, dulls our society's moral sensitivity, and leads to a cheapening of all human life, and
---francis on 9/11/12


francis, maybe you really should try to understand, just who is doing this.
Num_5:16 and set her before the LORD!
Num_5:18 the priest shall set the woman before the LORD
Num_5:19 the priest shall charge her by an oath!

If the woman dares to drinks the water she's not lying to the priest, she's lying to God!
Or do you think it's the priest that's doing this?

By this somehow you think God is giving you permission to kill?
You should clearly know this is not what God is doing!

But, let no one think! Even for a minute they are any better than this woman before God!
Because by the law all of us are guilty before, God!

And you can change that!
---TheSeg on 9/11/12


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---James_L on 9/11/12
RESOLUTION ON ABORTION
June 1971 has the same language for the value of human life both born and unborn. Please save me some time. Just show me where the resolution to resend the june 1971 reolution


Francis...Please give me scripture for killing a baby because the mother was raped.
---KarenD on 9/11/12
Numbers 5:29 This [is] the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside [to another] instead of her husband, and is defiled,

Numbers 5:30 Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law
---francis on 9/11/12


Hitler killed those he didn't think were viable human beings, including people with deformities and mental retardation.
---KarenD on 9/11/12


Jed, I agree with you.
Anyone who supports abortion or commits it is a murderer!

But, in the same way:
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Jas 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy, and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Rom_3:19!
Peace
---TheSeg on 9/11/12


The fact that this question even has to be asked by someone who calls themselves a christian is the most disturbing of all. Of course abortion should be illegal? Anyone who supports abortion is a murderer. Why should it be a woman's decision if her child lives or dies? As human beings we have alot of choices to make. But deciding whether another human being lives or dies is not a choice that any person should be allowed to make, man or woman. That choice is God's and God's alone. A woman doesn't have any more right to kill her own child than anyone. Making bad choices that only affect you is one thing. But when it affects someone else's life, especially when it ends someone else's life, that not your choice to make.
---Jed on 9/11/12


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francis,


ummm,

The 2003 resolution states that they were changed "beginning" in 1979.

The 2003 declaration was simply reflective, and reiterated the remorse for the failings of those wayward bastards from the early 1970s.


RESOLUTION ON ABORTION AND INFANTICIDE
May 1982

Therefore, be it RESOLVED, That the messengers to the 1982 Southern Baptist Convention affirm that all human life, both born and pre-born, is sacred, bearing the image of God, and is not subject to personal judgments as to "quality of life" based on such subjective criteria as stage of development, abnormality, intelligence level, degree of dependency, cost of medical treatment, or inconvenience to parents.
---James_L on 9/11/12


Francis...Please give me scripture for killing a baby because the mother was raped.
---KarenD on 9/11/12


WHEREAS, Resolutions passed by the Southern Baptist Convention in 1971 and 1974 accepted unbiblical premises of the abortion rights movement, forfeiting the opportunity to advocate the protection of defenseless women and children

WHEREAS, Southern Baptist churches have effected a renewal of biblical orthodoxy and confessional integrity in our denomination, beginning with the Southern Baptist Convention presidential election of 1979
---James_L on 9/11/12
Yes james do you see that they changed thier policy in 2003? No they did not
---francis on 9/11/12


francis,

so you think it's best to follow the guidance of a wayward denomination?

Nice out-of-context quote, by the way.


Southern Baptist Convention
ON THIRTY YEARS OF ROE v. WADE
June 2003

WHEREAS, Resolutions passed by the Southern Baptist Convention in 1971 and 1974 accepted unbiblical premises of the abortion rights movement, forfeiting the opportunity to advocate the protection of defenseless women and children

WHEREAS, Southern Baptist churches have effected a renewal of biblical orthodoxy and confessional integrity in our denomination, beginning with the Southern Baptist Convention presidential election of 1979
---James_L on 9/11/12


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What bothers me is that some people believe a baby is worthy of murdering if it is conceived due to rape and incest or "may" be born with a defect.
---KarenD on 9/11/12

While I can respect you view.
No woman should be forced to carry the baby of any man.

It is not the plan of God that any baby should be concieved by rape, It is simply not the plan of God that any woman should be raped.

It is also not the will of God that any married woman should carry the child of another man, and god permits abortion when a child is conceived via adultery
---francis on 9/11/12


Follower-of-Christ, AMEN! to all that you just said! Abortion is truly Satanic. Why does one REALLY have to cut off the limbs of an unborn child, and soak them with the burning saline solution and then crush their little skulls?! GOD has declared through a modern Prophet that those who murder the unborn, through the act of Abortion, will hear the screams of pain of those aborted babies throughout ALL Eternity!
---Gordon on 9/11/12


What bothers me is that some people believe a baby is worthy of murdering if it is conceived due to rape and incest or "may" be born with a defect. Of the hundreds of women I have met who have had abortions, none of them did it because of those reasons. They all did it because having a baby would inconvience their lives.
---KarenD on 9/11/12


United Methodist CHurch:
In continuity with past Christian teaching, we recognize tragic conflicts of life with life that may justify abortion, and in such cases we support the legal option of abortion under proper medical procedures...
The Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church - 2004

So then, where should those who are facing such tragedy of life with life get an abortion: In a motel, back alley, Mexico, Canada or in a USA hospital wherw it can be done safely.

Keep chuech your own church policy on abortion.

We could go from curch to church A-Z and we will find and exception for abortion where life verses life is the tragic circumstance.
---francis on 9/11/12


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it has always been a woman's decision. prior to our abortion industry, women were able to abort via the usage of various herbs.

our culture defines it as legal and ethical. only by reaching the hearts of those involved with this industry can this plight on our culture be slowed and eventually stopped.

And, finally, yup. I remember that interview well.
---chip on 9/11/12


Abortion is murder. It is the killing of another human being, especially one that is helpless and defenseless and cannot defend itself, and is relying on the stronger of humans to defend it. The president Obama is okay with babies being murdered, and a spade should be called a spade. Calling Abortion anything other than "Murder" is a deception and lie.
---Gordon on 9/11/12


Resolution On Abortion, adopted at the SBC convention, June 1971:

Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother

If abortion is not legal, where are these mothers who have " such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity,: going to have those abortions.

Abortion is a grave human tragedy that we should never take lightly!!
---francis on 9/11/12


\\ The president said he would not want his daughter go through the struggle of raising a child alone but totally dismissed the issue of adoption, so yeah\\

Actually, Pres. Obama called pregnancy a "punishment" that he didn't want his daughters to have.

And something tells me Malia and Sasha will never have to struggle for anything.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/11/12


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Do ya think abortion should be a woman's decision? Do you think it should be legal? Should we say that our president condones murder?

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---nita on 9/10/12
1: IT IS A WOMANS DECISION
2: IT IS LEGAL
3: SEE YOU OWN CHURCH POLICY
---francis on 9/11/12


baby-killing-mills have their cold-blooded killers vacuum baby from mothers womb. babies limbs are formed by 4 weeks, the vacuum begins sucking up limbs. Babies head is too big to be removed from the vacuum so baby-killer crushes babies head with an instrument and then vacuums up the brain matter. Once obama is reelected baby-killing will be funded by tax payers, eventually all health care facilities will be required to perform baby-killings regardless of their beliefs! do you really believe a civil society has the right to butcher another human being this way??? It is a cold calculated brutal, heartless murder. There is no compassion in this legal crime! Are baby-killers and people who support this vicious death numb to the horrors??
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/11/12


In USA we live in freedom which means we can do almost anything we want to do as long as it does not infringe on someone else's ability to exercise that same freedom. abortion limits the babies freedom to life. So therfore it should be illegal. The president said he would not want his daughter go through the struggle of raising a child alone but totally dismissed the issue of adoption, so yeah
---Scott1 on 9/11/12


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