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Should preachers speak ill of other denominations in the pulpit? I know they are trying to warn the flock against false doctrines, but is this scriptural?

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No position to speak badly of other.

All mankind:Jn3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jn 11:24-27

Chosen: Jn 6:44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Other sheep: Jn 10:16 "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one fold, and one Shepherd."

Rom10:17[...]and hearing by the (Word of God.)
Jn 14:6
[...]I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me
---char on 12/31/12


Pride is not Gods fruit---period.

Ten Orders "aseret hadevariym" that when followed, bring (harmony and peace)

God chose His Witnesses that (He Is-Exist-I Am)
Isaiah 42,43,44,45

Y'SRaEl defined:
SR means "turn the head" translated "ruler/prince" ...one who turns the head of the people.
Y in front indicates a verb "he turns the head of God".
El:God

By "discipline the order/arrangement of God when followed "turns the head" to a path of order/good from disorder/bad---
Following The Word of God, Ysha.
"Turning" "following"Anointed Word of God (Christ),one is balanced between function and dysfunction remaining in peace.
---char on 12/31/12


Jerky, you keep asking the same questions. And when I ask you for Scripture you have nothing, just more blah, blah, blah. Those are not godly answers.
"For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin (written letter of the law)." (Rom. 8:2).
"For sin (what the letter of the law tells us is sin) shall not be your master, because you are not under the law (written letter of the law) but under grace" (Rom. 8:14).
"So, my brothers, you also died to the law (written letter) through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God" (Rom. 7:4).
---Mark_V. on 12/31/12


But otherwise I'm doing well. Thanks for asking!
---StrongAxe on 12/30/12
I am glad to know that all is well with you

HAZ27 good luck with all that. When A pastor tells you that you are incapable of sin no matter what physical acts you do. He is usually sleeping with the women in his church.

Jim Baker said to his other woman that it was OK to be physical with him because he was God's shepherd caring for God's sheep and she was heloping him care for the sheep ( paraphrasing)

David Koresh convinced many women, even married ones, that to be physical with him, was to be intimate with God, and not adultery

I think your pastor is going down the same road.
---francis on 12/30/12


Francis. You're walking in the flesh.

Whereas those here who are led by the Spirit are NOT under the law, Gal 5:18.

But for you it's all about the law. It's obedience or else condemnation/death.
You argue that without the law Christians will run amok.

But for Christians we love and love does no ill to another. And should we fail, God disciplines us. Note how there's no condemnation/death, such as your false gospel preaches.

Interesting that you've added to the 10 C, drunkeness, railing and extortion. Does that make it the 13 C? And why is it that 1Cor 5:11 & 1Cor 6:9,10 don't mention Sabbath breaking as an offense that excludes the guilty of entering God's kingdom?

Believe in Jesus instead.

---Haz27 on 12/30/12




Steveng:

If ALL denominations are apostate, then where are any "true" Christians (if any, in fact, still exist), to be found?


francis:

(responding to your question from another blog that has been closed):

At the moment, I don't have an internet connection at home, so I only get online about once or twice a week, so my postings here have been somewhat less frequent as long as this situation persists. But otherwise I'm doing well. Thanks for asking!
---StrongAxe on 12/30/12


---Haz27
1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

Haz it means that not even a gentile male would sleep, have physical relations with his fathers wife


I am worried about you. If your pastor / preist reads that verse, and tells you that this act is not because of what physically took place, but only spiritual. Then I think that he is uhm how can I put this that CN moderator will post it: Having his way with many of the females in your church, including married ones ( ADULTERY AND FORNICATION) and claiming that he can do this an not sin because he is not under the law
---francis on 12/30/12


Markie: Blah, blah, more irrelevant blather, blah.

This is not that hard. You claim to be "under the New Covenant". Have you not read:

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel, After those days, saith the LORD, I will put MY LAW in their inward parts, and write it in their HEARTS, and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Now kindly leave the irrelevant for a moment and answer the question. Just exactly what LAW was written in your heart? If none, then you are not under the New Covenant as you claim.


---jerry6593 on 12/30/12


Sometimes it is necessary to speak ill of others to bring shame to them so they know the error of their ways and turn from evil.

I, too, bring shame to denominational churches and to christians saying that they, the denominaional churches, are a product of Satan and anyone who partakes in their doctrines are being led astray. Satan has successfully divided christiandom into cults each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of livng and interpretations of the bible. There is no unity among today's christians who have become lukewarm in these end days. Repent and do not follow the ways of men, these worldly denominational churches, but of God. The time is at hand to become serious in your relationship with God.
---Steveng on 12/29/12


Francis, your a natural man, so you "receive not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness" to you, 1Cor 2:14

For those spiritual, we see it speaks of fornication as not even named amongst Gentiles (as they wouldn't name SPIRITUAL fornication now, would they).

And the Corinthians were "puffed up" and "glorying" about it. This behaviour is like that of the self-righteous Pharisees.

Spiritually, the fornication we should abstain from is going under the law (Hagar the bondwoman, Gal 4)

And to "purge out the old leaven" we see is the doctrine of works of the law (Matt 16:12) which speaks of Hagar/bondage/law.

A little leaven leavens the whole lump, Gal 5:9
---Haz27 on 12/29/12




---Haz27 on 12/29/12
1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

IS THIS SPIRIT FORNICATION?

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner, with such an one no not to eat.

OK so tell us what is
1: A spiritual coveter
2: A spiritual idolater
3: A spiritual railer
4: A spiritual drunkard
5: A spiritual extortioner
---francis on 12/29/12


Scripture warns against false doctrine. And preachers should not go beyond this.

For example.
1Cor 5 warns about fornication, saying not to keep company with those doing it.
We know scripture is SPIRITUALLY discerned (1Cor 2:14). And we see that 1Cor 5 speaks of SPIRITUAL fornication.

It refers to those preaching the law (fornicating with Hagar the bondwoman/the law, Gal 4:21-24).

There are those here on CN who are SPIRITUAL fornicators trying to lure Christians into works of the law.

1Cor 5:12 says we judge those who are WITHIN THE CHURCH. And if we find any who are SPIRITUAL fornicators (preachers of the law/bondage/Hagar) then we should "put away that wicked person" 1Cor 5:13.
---Haz27 on 12/29/12


Jerry, you don't get it. You say,

"Just exactly what LAW is written on your heart, Mark?" Is it the law of deliberate disobedience to God's stated laws. Is it the "law of sin and death"? (Since sin is the transgression of the LAW."

You just don't understand that those born of the Spirit, are people Spiritually saved, baptized into One body. The Spirit of the law, who is Christ lives inside all those with faith in the works of Christ. His the Spirit of the Law. Your always thinking in the flesh, talking about the letter of the law which teaches what sin is. What man can do in the flesh, not what man can do in the Spirit. That's why you never speak of Christ but of the written letter of the law.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/12


MarkV: One more time>

"Since the law is now written in our hearts"

Just exactly what LAW is written on your heart, Mark? Is it the law of deliberate disobedience to God's stated laws. Is it the "law of sin and death"? (Since sin is the transgression of the LAW.)

---jerry6593 on 12/28/12


---Mark_V. on 12/27/12
Romans 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can

SEE spiritually minded people are subject to the laws of God and they OBEY THE LAWS OF GOD
---francis on 12/27/12


francis, I give you the word of God and you reject it again. you asked and I gave. You turn around and give me (Romans 8:5,7). And forgot to mention the second part of (v. 5), here let me write it for you,
"For those who live according to the flesh (unbelievers) set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit (believers) the things of the Spirit." you are setting your mind on the things of the flesh,
"For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh.." (v. 3). That is the law you preach. Carries no salvation with it.
---Mark_V. on 12/27/12


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spirit of the law, and The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus are not the same.

Spirit of the law is a nonbiblical term meaning the higher purpose or intent of the law. Example the bible says do not murder, the spirit of the law says do not be angry at your brother without a cause

Law of the spirit of life in Christ tells us that those who are in Christ will not be cndemned, because they are not walking based on thier human reasoning and desires ( THE FLESH) but are led by the spirit of God to do spiritual things
Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh,
Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
---francis on 12/26/12


francis, you said:

"Where in all of the bible have you seen: SPRIT OF THE LAW or JESUS IS OUR SABBATH"

Here, let me help you francis,

"There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus who do not walk according to the flesh, but according "to the Spirit, For the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death"
Do you get it? The Law of the Spirit, which is the Spirit of the Law, in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death which is the written letter of the Law.
The Sabbath rest to the believer now is in Christ Jesus (Heb. 4:1-14).
Pretty simple passages if you read them.
---Mark_V. on 12/26/12


MarkV: "Since the law is now written in our hearts"

Just exactly what LAW is written on your heart, Mark? Is it the law of deliberate disobedience to God's stated laws. Is it the "law of sin and death"? (Since sin is the transgression of the LAW.)


---jerry6593 on 12/26/12


"Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:", v.2
What men "know and read"?
Paul adds, "Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God."
Written, "Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God."
What is written in your heart, do you clean yourself from filthiness of flesh and spirit?
2 Corinthians 4:2 "... nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God."
That 'manifestation' is what men know and read.
---Nana on 12/26/12


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If you speak of "spirit of the law," then what you want to talk about is the deeper meaning

example:
Job 31:1 I made a covenant with mine eyes, why then should I think upon a maid?

Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

I would say that the spirit of the commandment that says do not commit adultery goes far beyond physical adultery, it has to do with your thoughts

spirit of the sabbath:
Matthew 12:12 Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

Not only to stop servile work to acknowledge that God is the creator, but to do good to your fellowmen, show the love of God in your heart
---francis on 12/25/12


2C 3:6 for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2C 3:17 and where the Spirit of the Lord [is], there [is] liberty.

Ja 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty---francis on 12/25/12

It is easy to see where the "Spirit of the Law" teaching devolves from. It is the straining of passages out of context, where truth in one passage is connected outside of its scope, to another truth elsewhere. This is common in theology.

As you say, it is non-existent in the Scriptures.

Law has no spirit. 2C 3:6 holds the law in contrast to the spirit, but ascribes death, not life, to it.
---Phil on 12/25/12


the Spirit of the law lives within us, we do not need the written letter of the law.

Jesus Christ is our Sabbath.

---Mark_V. on 12/25/12

Where in all of the bible have you seen: SPRIT OF THE LAW

or JESUS IS OUR SABBATH

is it in the same book and chapter with GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELF?

you just make up stuff that sounds good to itching ears, and call it doctrine or do you actually use a bible?

Spirit of the law is a term used in American Law to speak about the intent of a contract. It is not a bilical term
---francis on 12/25/12


Jerry, you lie again, I have never advocated disobedience to God's laws. Since the law is now written in our hearts because the Spirit of the law lives within us, we do not need the written letter of the law.
As for you and francis, are under the shadow of the Sabbath, which means you are under the written letter of the Law. Believers in Christ are under the reality for Jesus Christ is our Sabbath. For believers Paul tells us "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree" (Gal. 3:13). The Sabbath was only a shadow of the things that were to come: the reality however is found in Christ" (Colossians 2:17).
---Mark_V. on 12/25/12


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...but is this scriptural?
---trey on 9/12/12

Then there are those who see exactly what the word of God says, and choose to go contrary.

Revelation 2:9 They say they are christians /Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

2 Timothy 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus, Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already, and overthrow the faith of some.

Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

name calling of those who reject the word, proud biblical tradition
---francis on 12/23/12


Attacking another sectarian group is common among the apostate believers. Their perspective is skewed towards self-preservation and materialism, with their souls and flesh tied to the things of the earth. Kingdom teaching has promoted this delusion.

Wherever believers hold to tradition and doctrines of men, there will always be contention and strife.

The body is one, and the unity of the Spirit exists apart from our beliefs. It is established in the heavens, but becomes mangled upon the earth through departure from the teachings of Paul, our apostle.
---Phil on 12/23/12


MarkV: You claim to be above the LAW because you are under the New Covenant. But, the Bible says that those under the New Covenant have the LAW written in their heart. Christ in you should give you the desire to obey His LAW as well as the power to do it. It is the penalty of the law (death) that Christ has done away with - not the LAW itself. Otherwise His death on the cross was meaningless - paying a penalty that was not needed.

If you really loved Jesus, you would want to obey Him, rather than advocating disobedience to Him.


---jerry6593 on 12/23/12


Beloved, yes! Had an experience sometime back, had our preacher
( a novice, not seasoned in the word) he did not believe in hell.We continue to talk about it and often we had our different opinions. However, I never put him down and I was quite his senior, older than him. Always talk to him like son when we talk I used to try help him out as a mother would. He was young and his first time be a pastor.
Never put him.or try to provoke anger.Soft word turns away wrath! My grandmother used to say just be quiet. and go pray about it" God will listen".
---ELENA on 12/22/12


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If your preacher is truly preaching truth there would be no need to speak ill of any other denomination because his sermons would reflect truth. If a preacher talks about a false doctrine practiced by another denomination that is a warning not speaking ill of them. Most people do not get the difference because they are too busy swooning over their preacher to be bothered with becoming like the Bereans and searching the scriptures to see if what their preacher is telling them is truth.
---Follower_of_Christ on 12/22/12


Jerry, you say,

"Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them. So you are cursed! You are also called least in heaven for teaching disobedience to God's Law!"

Curse is everyone who does not continue in the things which are written in the Law." But I'm not under law but in Christ. There is no condemnation to those in Christ. You will find no salvation in the Law. But you insist on been under law. The law saves no one, for no one can keep the whole written law perfect. you are in great need of Jesus Christ and don't even know it. Only His perfect works can save you from the curse your in. That's why you don't need more laws, you need Jesus Christ.
---Mark_V. on 12/22/12


MarkV: "Jerry, you don't need more laws,"

You're right, 10 Laws is enough for God, so it should be good for you and me. But you don't want to obey even ten, and God says:

Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.

So you are cursed! You are also called least in heaven for teaching disobedience to God's Law!


Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


---jerry6593 on 12/22/12


Romans 13:9 "For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, ..., and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

Commandments 'A la carte' or in the carry out container of "... love thy neighbour...", violation = same result:
Galatians 5:19_21 "... Adultery,... murders,... : of the which ..., as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

Galatians 5:22_23: "... Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
But there are laws against the works of the flesh.
---Nana on 12/7/12


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trey: I believe it is OK if the other denomination is actually doing what is obviously contradicting God's word. But we are not to condemn them(or judge them to hell) because someone or group doing something contrary to God's word today can change tomorrow, and the one or group doing OK today can also change (not my wish).
---Adetunji on 12/7/12


Preachers or pastors should preach the Gospel Truth. Those who are saved will be able to discern what Scripture says, not all at once, but little to some, and a lot to others, depending on the believers walk with Christ. If they are hungry for the Word, they will learn faster. The Spirit will lead us to the Truth. Many denominations teach many doctrines use by others, it is the false one's we should be aware of. The elect will never be deceived. It is not possible
---Mark_V. on 12/7/12


Q: Should preachers speak ill of other denominations in the pulpit? I know they are trying to warn the flock against false doctrines, but is this scriptural?

A: My pastor doesn't name denominations, just quotes a typical statement they use. And follows it up by stating the correct Biblical teaching.
---jan4378 on 12/6/12


Jerry, you don't need more laws, you need Christ to keep the law for you, for:

"Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them. But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for the just shall live by faith" (Gal. 3:10,11)

So go ahead and try keeping the written Law, see how far that will get you. It got you cursed already.
---Mark_V. on 12/4/12


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Markie: "Jerry, first of all the passages in (Matt. 5:19) are not referring to the Ten Commandments, get that right."

Wow! You can't be that dumb! Read the whole chapter to get the context.

Mat 5:21 .... Thou shalt not kill, ....

Mat 5:27 .... Thou shalt not commit adultery:

Mat 5:33, 34 .... Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all, neither by heaven, for it is God's throne: (Use the Lord's name in vain.)

Where have you seen these before? That's right! The Ten Commandments!


---jerry6593 on 12/3/12


Jerry, first of all the passages in (Matt. 5:19) are not referring to the Ten Commandments, get that right. Jesus was neither giving a new law nor modifying the Old, but rather explaining the true significance of the moral content of Mose" law and the rest of the Old Testament. The Law and the prophets speaks of the entirety of the Old T. Scriptures, not the rabbinical interpretations of them. Jesus is the fulfillment of the law in all it aspects. He fulfilled the moral law by keeping it perfect. He fulfilled the ceremonial law by being the embodiment of everything the law types and symbols pointed to and he fulfilled the judicial law by personifying God's perfect Justice.
Not even you could do that.
---Mark_V. on 12/2/12


Markie: "Created for good works"???

Since when is breaking God's Ten Commandments considered "good works"?

Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

God's opinion of us is summarized in this scripture:

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


---jerry6593 on 12/1/12


Jerry, I am a great piece of work, "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them" (Eph. 2:10). You should be a great piece of work also.
You say you have given me Scripture after Scripture and to this day I have not seen one passage to support what you said, that God commanded man to do Saturday Sabbath or that He started creation on Sunday and rested Saturday. I only hear a lot of talk, and nothing. And for that you get upset and angry. Take satan out, throw him at me. Take a deep breath, control your emotions, and don't give room for him in any godly matters and you will do great.
---Mark_V. on 11/24/12


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MarkV: You are real piece of work. I give you scripture after scripture and yet you claim I "cannot answer with the word of God". You are so smug in your "I'm predestined to be saved, so I can sin by breaking all the Commandments I want" little world that you cannot see the truth of the scriptures that say that you are wrong. It is undeniable that I teach Commandment keeping, while you teach Commandment breaking. What does the Word say about us?

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


---jerry6593 on 11/23/12


Jerry, there you go again, bringing satan out of your pocket when you cannot answer with the word of God. Do you think he can defend you?
Believers are not trying to keep the Ten Commendments. If they are trying to keep the ten commandments they will fail. Believers are being moved by the Holy Spirit unto all truth. They are already saved, they are obedient and follow Christ. When they fail and sin, they have a Mediator who speaks for them. It is a done deal. Believe it or not.
Stop bringing satan to your defense. He is defeated already.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/12


MarkV: "No true Christian is trying to keep the Ten Commandments"

That about sums it up. That sounds like something Satan would say. Jesus, on the other hand, said:

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

No REAL Christian would teach disobedience to God's holy Law!


---jerry6593 on 11/21/12


Jerry, you say,
"You seem to argue that disobedience to Christ's express will (as He, Himself wrote it) is a virtue, while obedience is a sin. I'll bet your earthly father didn't buy that logic any more than Christ does."

I never said obedience was a sin. You did. And, I never had an earthly father to teach me anything. My mom was father and mother to me. You twist the words of others. No true Christian is trying to keep the Ten Commandments, they are guided by the Spirit of Christ, for good works. They do not have a yoke around their necks.
"For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, "which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them"
---Mark_V. on 11/20/12


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Hello,bro.Mark just want.to thankyou for always a bible lesson, a prayer and a good wife you have praise God for her.Thank God for you brother.Have a happy Thanksgiving. I am going make turkey Cuban style.. & fixings.my elderly neighbors, most olde timers.have safe holiday
---ELENA on 11/19/12


MarkV: You and I agree on the Christ we serve and that obedience to the 10C Law does not "earn" us a ticket to heaven. But how we both serve Christ differs considerably. You seem to argue that disobedience to Christ's express will (as He, Himself wrote it) is a virtue, while obedience is a sin. I'll bet your earthly father didn't buy that logic any more than Christ does. Do you think that Christ was just kidding when He wrote the 10C, or that He made a mistake, or maybe He just changed His mind?

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Tell me, if you are immune to The Law, then how can you be under the new covenant and have The Law written in your heart?


---jerry6593 on 11/17/12


Jerry, I serve the risen Christ. Who by the grace of God through faith saved me, because on my own I could not keep all the law. The very same law He wrote with His finger and all other commandments, that right now condemns all who are not in Christ because they are trying to fulfill the commandment in order to get into heaven, but break one and they have broken them all.
The same God who made me spiritually alive together with Christ, who gave me faith to believe, granted me repentance, and baptized me into one body in Christ, and indwelled me with His Spirit and sealed me. A Christ who never leaves you, nor forsakes you, who doesn't disappear when you physically die. Who is with you always.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/12


Mark V: Although you never answer any of my questions, I'll answer yours. I do indeed believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. I believe that He is Jehovah, the Creator and the Law-giver from Mt. Sinai who wrote with His own finger "Remember THE Sabbath Day to keep IT holy". He is the Lamb that was slain as payment for our transgressions of His Law.

He is the one who said:

Mat 5:18 ... Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law

He was known and spoken of by John, who said:

1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Now which Jesus Christ do YOU serve?


---jerry6593 on 11/14/12


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Jerry, something else, I do not cherish the doctrines of the RCC. Only those which are stated in Scripture. I don't speak for their denomination, yours or anyone else's. All I am interested in is the Word of God save Jesus Christ. The Spirit of the law. You speak as if you do not sin, because you keep pushing the letter of the law on everyone. Only because your purpose is the Saturday Sabbath. But no one can keep all the commandments of God, if they could they would not need Christ to keep them for them. Read Hebrew 12:7,8). Even as believers we all sin and we are all partakers of God's chastening. If you are not chasten, you are not a partaker, and an illegitmate son.
---Mark_V. on 11/14/12


Jerry, you don't, you defend the letter of the Law, only because you keep Saturday Sabbath. You are not defending God, for you never mention the Lord Jesus Christ in your answers, He is God in the flesh.
Most of your arguments are passages found in the Old Testament concerning the Jews who were and still are under the Law together with the Genitles without Christ. We keep God's Sabbath, because we rest in Christ every day. Who do you rest on? Your great works of righteousness?
---Mark_V. on 11/13/12


Mark V: "Jerry, my life is not defending a denomination like you do at the expense of compromising the Spirit of the law."

I defend the Bible and the character of the God who inspired it - not a denomination. You, on the other hand, defend man-made traditions, as well as a denomination - the Roman Catholic Church whose doctrines you cherish.

You claim to keep the spirit of the Law without keeping the letter of it. Please show the scripture that authorizes the breaking of the letter of the Ten Commandment Law. And please also explain how you keep the spirit of "Thou shalt not commit adultery" while literally breaking the letter of it.

I await your answers - no name-calling, please.

---jerry6593 on 11/12/12


Nana, I never told anyone to ask me for the Truth, that is a lie. Every morning, I pray for all who answer, even the opposers.
I do answer some, "you are correct," because when a person gives the Truth they are encourage to do more work for Christ. When I say "I disagree," a person has three choices, they can check for themselves what I wrote to see if it is in Scripture and correct their own mistakes for the glory of God, or they can find a mistake I made and bring it to my attention.
Three, Or they can do what you and many others do, "get angry for disagreeing with you, slander me, some of you guys throw the devil at me." all you are doing is showing the evidence of your doctrines.
---Mark_V. on 11/8/12


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"I only post Mark V. so whatever comma's or slashes are there, I did not do them."
Mark_V. on 11/8/12

No, that is a lie. You say you post as Mark V. but after your spill your signature is Mark_V..
There is a big difference.

By the way, you do not speak the Truth. You are so deluded as evidenced by your excessive use in repplying with, "So and so, you answered correctly...". "So and so, if you want to learn, all you have to do is ask me..."

Your head is so enlarged that you must need a grocery cart to wheel it about!
---Nana on 11/8/12


Hello,again.For bro.Mark(put my continuation blogg on here smile ) kind of decided well, you know honestly brother I hope for real meaning no disrespect to no one.When I think about you know I sent you a post now you coud.very.well.be correct.
My grandmother used call it "mother witt".. but like I hope things turn out on the positive for that mother,son.
People are not like you would imagine, me ..not without my faults and it is good to certainly, be woman enough stand up and ask forgiveness.May things workout.I have had my own I.D. stolen now twice. May the lord give more grace and wisdom. He is the lifter of my head.Lord bless you.


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---ELENA on 11/8/12


Sadly, i believe churches, fellowships, & congreations have reached the apostacy! The falling away that was prophesied is occuring,the lawless one,the man of sin has been revealed!2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Many have "asked Jesus into their hearts" and keep the sin in their business must have another(anti)christ living there that calls himself God!
---J_Marc on 11/8/12


Nana, you got no other way to answer against the Truth but that to try and slander someone's name. Have you nothing better to do with your time other then to check for my name? I only post Mark V. so whatever comma's or slashes are there, I did not do them.

Jerry, my life is not defending a denomination like you do at the expense of compromising the Spirit of the law. You can preach the letter of the law all you want, but it is not going to save you or anyone else.

Pat, when I speak of another denomination, what I am doing is not making fun of them, but exposing their false teachings. I only expose the false teachings, not the Truth. Jesus did that all the time. I suppose you hate Him doing too.
---Mark_V. on 11/8/12


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MarkV. has 90 votes,mark_V. has 1 vote,Mark_V. has 100 votes
Mark_v. has 2 votes

Mark_V has 7 votes. This last one when confronted with so many names said,
" Many Paths To Jesus" blog:
"Nana, I never used those other Mark V's you gave, other people did when they answered me. I have only used this one name, and my name is Mark."

Hilarious, "other people did when they answered me", as there is no record of any conversation between any two of those marks!

So jerry6593, your repply to 'MarkV' should have been addressed to 'MarK_V. who has 0 votes' and to 'Mark_V. who has 100 votes'.
Remember Jekyll and Hyde?
This one is Jekil and Legion!
---Nana on 11/7/12


Nana: I think our friend MarkV is confused. Satan is the "Accuser of the Brethren". It seems to me that MarkV spends a lot of time doing just that. Besides, doesn't a person who loves Jesus also exhibit love for his fellows?


---jerry6593 on 11/7/12


Nana, I am sorry people are offended when the Truth is presented, just because they belong to a denomination. I do not support any denomination. One reason why is because they are not all the same within their denominations. Many kinds of Baptist, Pentecostals, Catholics, and so on. Just because I attend a Baptist Church now does not mean all Baptist teach the same thing. Free will has entered all denominations. And as long as they teach the free will of man, they are outside the Truth, that it is God who saves, man does not save himself. He needs the Spirit in order to see, hear, and perceive the Truth. Otherwise he will remain lost. Only believers call upon the name of the Lord.
---MarK_V. on 11/7/12


Well, God did say to me, "Don't make fun of someone elses religion". It was [about snake handlers]. He also said, "There is a right way and a wrong way". And I read it, can not find it goes like this>>"Don't try to pen your religion on someone else's sleeve, cause they may not wear it".....Here is a few Scriptures just for you! "The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him" [Psa.37:32]. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed [Ex. 22:20]. "I will break the pride of your power, and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass [Lev. 26:19].
---pat on 11/7/12


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"Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses also love the wrong jesus, their jesus is equal to satan."
Mark_V. on 9/21/12

Gee mark, jed, jerry, elster, shera, etc. will not appreciate that comment I think. Maybe I am wrong
or maybe I am right.
---Nana on 11/6/12


//josef on 9/14/12 //

Agree,
Blessing brother.

Shalom
---char on 11/5/12


Follower, what you said is very true,
"Would the Apostles be overwhelmed by the myriad doctrines of Christianity taught today, I would think so."
The Jesus of the Bible is not the Jesus that many follow. The One of Scripture is God. He is from everlasting, and eternal. He came as a man, yet all things were created by Him and for Him. Many believe thier Jesus is real, but theirs is a created being. They might love him, but they are loving the wrong Jesus. Muslims love Jesus, but the wrong one. They love god, but the wrong god. Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses also love the wrong jesus, their jesus is equal to satan. They worship a created being. So you are right, the Apostles would be overwhelm by the doctrines taught today.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/12


Would the Apostles be overwhelmed by the myriad doctrines of Christianity taught today, I would think so. When Apostles warned they knew of false teachings creeping into Gods church yet at that time there were not different churches calling themselves Christianity and preaching something different. Sometimes warnings are perceived as speaking ill because people tend to take their version of Christianity personally yet if speaking ill (or the warning) has scriptural support then it would be the people in that church who would need to seek the word for answers. too many follow the preachers not Gods word.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/20/12


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When Preachers speak the TRUTH of the Word of God, that truth bathed in the LIGHT of the WORD will expose the darkness of false doctrine all by itself.

If we tell teh TRUTH that prosperity was taught to Israel UNDER LAW and were given earthly blessings UNDER LAW, that alone should tell anyone who has ears to hear, that WE are not Israel, we are not UNDER LAW, and our riches are IN CHRIST in heavenly places In Christ.

That truth ALONE exposes the false prosperity gospel. Yet many professing christians CHOOSE to ignore many facts.

We are to each be responsible to be a workman studying to show ourselves approved of God and learn to RIGHTLY divide the word of truth, and not rely on our preachers to tell us this or that anyway.
---kathr4453 on 9/19/12


Bro. Trey, pastors should not judge individuals from other denominations. They should preach the Truth, and if an individual is saved, the Spirit will guide him to discern what is right and what is wrong. Also what Josef said is very true, but most of what he stated is for brothers not judging other brothers. Since individuals do not know who is his brother in Christ in other denominations, we should be careful how we word our answers. Again I will state that Jesus warned the disciples that they were not to preach the gospel to those who were not worthy. To take their own peace with them. Many in Scripture judge others, as John the Baptist did when he judge the Pharisees. So did Jesus when He also judged the Pharisess for their actions.
---Mark_V on 9/16/12


Speaking against false doctrine is totally in the Bible: Galatians, 1 & 2 Tim, and many other Bible books. However do not confuse doctrine with preferences, points of view, styles. This can be a sign of envy more than anything else. For example, mega-churchs, contemporary vs traditional music, Predestination vs Arminian denominations.
---Scott1 on 9/14/12


"Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaks evil of [his] brother, and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law, and judges the law: but if you judge [by] the law, you art not a doer of the law, but a judge. Jam 4:11
"Why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ." Rom 14:10
"Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in [his] brother's way." Rom 14:13
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them." Isa 8:20 Discern that.
---josef on 9/14/12


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Hello,agree with you,bro.and Darlene,many times (not say all) but many get caught up in the prestige the hob-knobing, the glitz of being a leader, there is a prayerline online, pray only for pastors, minister to pastors, they say many only pray 10 minia.a day n some only 10 mn. A week, they are worn out,...we should pray for them.We should be carefull and not believe everything but check it with the word, some pastors are honest and will speak and admit when something is opinion.only,thankyou
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only
---ELENA on 9/13/12


preacher not only speak ill of other denominations but they speak ILL OF YOU...you ask them issues like self confidence, money, suffering & the first thing that they say is SIN SIN..like in luke 13 the synagogue teacher came out & accused christ of sin & in bk of john the pharisees said the reason why the man is blind is SIN from his parent to the parents of their parents. pat robertson said the liberals caused 911...what rationality.
---mike on 9/13/12


I can't see how it can be scriptural when we are told to judge not but we should be taught the Word of God that we need no one to tell us when someone is teaching false doctrine which isn't God's Word. Discernment is a gift from God to help us recognize the spirits in operation in a person or place. We do need to know the Word well that we have a guide to what is God's way. I think talking about other denominations or demeaning people in other denominations from the pulpit is wrong.
---Darlene1 on 9/13/12


Preachers should warn their followers against false doctrines.
---Jed on 9/13/12


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when one Christian sect takes pot shots at another, it really does not glorify God.

when Christians take pot shots at other religions, it really does not glorify God either.

when Christians witness to someone lost in sin and in distress, we can bring glory to God.
---chip on 9/13/12


First, we have how God's judgment "begins with us first", in 1 Peter 4:10. So, I see the right ones get judged first. So, whoever a preacher is judging first is the one who is maybe the most right with God (c:
---willie_c: on 9/13/12


If a preacher is faithfully teaching God's Word, he should encourage his flock to stay in the Word, and learn discernment. The Holy Spirit equips the believer to know what the Truth is, and who the false teachers are.
---Trish on 9/13/12


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