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What Day Is The Sabbath

I want to ask about the sabbath. Is it lawful to God not to keep the day and also, what day should the sabbath be observed? Please quote me from the Bible

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Exd 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exd 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exd 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:


Exd 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The Sabbath was made at Creation the Commandment says so. Adam was not a Jew. Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
---Samuelbb7 on 9/26/12


elee7537: "If the Sabbath were something in existence prior to mt. Sinai, there would be at least some record concerning it."

It was indeed recorded - on the seventh day of creation.

Remember, God's words stand forever. So why would God establish the Sabbath, then repeal it only to re-establish it in the new Earth?

Today's christians are so selfish that they don't want to give up one day to be with the Creator especially when that one day is on Saturday, the day they go shopping and be entertained. The love of God has surely waxed cold during these end days.
---Steveng on 9/26/12


Gordon, to "rest in Christ" is to rest from your dead works of trying to obey the law for your salvation. That's because there are multitudes who believe that unless you obey God's laws and commandments, you can lose your salvation. And that's a lie.

For Paul declared, "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38,39

It's impossible for one who's saved by God's grace to lose their salvation, period.
---christan on 9/26/12


FofC - you asked which covenant is referrenced in Hebrew 8,13?

If you were to read this section in its context you would easily see that the covenant referred to is the one God made with Israel when they left Egypt.

Hebrews 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Sorry that you are so very easily confused but you really need to go to a church where you can receive proper instruction in the word of God.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


tatenda_makichi -

Matthew 22:35-40 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. ... And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Notice Jesus did not reply with any of the Decalogue commandments but referenced 2 verses from the book of the law that was placed beside the Ark of the Covenant.

we read in the New Testament that love of neighbor fulfills the law (Romans 13:9-10) given that to know the Lord is to love Him.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12




Scott1, The Pharisees tried to condemn YAHUSHUA of breaking the Sabbath because they were jealous of Him and He was a threat to their religious establishment. YAHUSHUA never once violated the Sabbath Command. He observed the Sabbath perfectly in every way. What YAHUSHUA "violated" was the Pharisees' own rules and regulations which they added to Almighty GOD's original Sabbath Command. GOD's Sabbath Command is a pleasant thing. The Pharisees made the Sabbath into a burden for the people.
---Gordon on 9/26/12


Matthew 22:37 Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart...This is the first and great commandment.

My Bible says the sabbath is the Lord's day:

Isaiah 58:13 the sabbath...my holy day,

And is the God commanded day of communal worship:
Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation

Ezekiel 46:3 Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths

Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
---francis on 9/26/12


Hebrews 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

which covenant?? God made more than a dozen covenants with Israel, however if you want the answer it is not any of the many others, or the sabbath (big ole ding for you) sorry you cannot cannot cannot get a passing grade!!

the answer is in Hebrews 8:10 the new covenant is the laws in our minds.

The Sabbatarians, as you affectionately call me, follow the Lord Jesus who is Lord of the Sabbath day, and clearly clearly clearly you do not follow the Lord Jesus. Then if the Lord of the Sabbath is not your Lord why do you profess Christianity??
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/26/12


elee7537, YAHUSHUA (JESUS) says in MATTHEW 15 "...Why do ye also transgress the Commandment of GOD by your tradition?" For the sake of relgious man's tradition of observing Sunday, they transgress the 7th Day Sabbath Commandment of GOD.
---Gordon on 9/26/12


Here is a thought, why did the Pharisees work really hard to trap Jesus healing on the Sabbath? It happens three or four times in Luke.

Because religion always showcases your condemnation of others not your own.
---Scott1 on 9/26/12




francis //2 reason why we MUST keep all the commandments.

here are the two reason:
1: LOVE GOD
2: GOD COMMANDED IT
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New Testament book, chapter and verse please.

All the commandments of God including the 10 commandments are summed up in love of neighbor.

Romans 13:9-10 The commandments, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet, and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
Love does no wrong to a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


Scott1 - well said!

I like Saturday as well as it is not only time off regular work and a time to caught up on my sleep.

The Sabbath was made for man, for his benefit as physically we need rest from labor. I agree we become more productive.

Sunday, however, is the Lord's day and the day we gather for communal worship in accordance to the tradition established by the Apostles and their immediate successors. It is all to easy to see that much in their writings.

The problem is that Sabbaterians reject the decision of the Jerusalem council Acts 15 and continue to think that Christians need convert to Judaism in order to be legitimate. They have become the modern day Judaizers of the Church.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


christan, According to the way you believe, what does it mean to "rest in Christ"? If we are not to obey the 4th Commandment to observe the Sabbath Rest, what does it mean to "rest in Jesus"? Rest from what? Rest from obeying His Commands?
---Gordon on 9/26/12


//I wonder why some people make a point (yea, fetish) of the 4th commandment, while flagrantly violating the 6th?

That was the problem found in the Jewish religious hierarchy when Jesus came to earth.

Religion to some is really a game much like competitive sports.

Sabbaterians use the 4th commandment as a means of measuring the spirituality of others. If they can prove that all others are wrong in their doctrinal beliefs then they think that leaves only them with the truth.

However, they are usually too blind to see their own sinfulness.

Mt 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


"The 7th day was set apart and made holy by our Creator. It is a memorial of Creation and honors our creator."

While that is an individual religious conviction,
---elee7537 on 9/26/12
Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

the sabbath as a memorial of God as creator is doctrinal and commanded in the NT

Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.

Hebrews 4:4 God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
---francis on 9/26/12


wonder why some people make a point (yea, fetish) of the 4th commandment, while flagrantly violating the 6th?

for the same we wonder why you have a fetish of continuously proving you have an inability to make analogies then lie breaking the 9th!! interesting, the bigger wonder is why people profess they follow the Lord Jesus who is Lord of the holy sabbath day, and yet do not honor the sabbath day. That is a bigger wonder how so many can profess the name of the Lord Jesus and disrespect the sabbath day he is Lord over? Why the Lord asked why do you call me Lord when you do not obey me??

So why do those who rebel against the holy sabbath day call the Lord Jesus their Lord when they do not honor the day he is Lord of?
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/26/12


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I wonder why some people make a point (yea, fetish) of the 4th commandment, while flagrantly violating the 6th?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/26/12


What you have here are people giving 98 reasons why people should not keep the 4th commandments. and 2 reason why we MUST keep all the commandments.

here are the two reason:
1: LOVE GOD
2: GOD COMMANDED IT

So plese join us this sabbath as we worship God in spirit and in truth

Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Now it is YOUR TURN to join us to hear the word of God NEXT SABBATH
---francis on 9/26/12


FofC //please point to the exact scripture something, something, something, that abolishes the holy sabbath day...

Hebrews 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

The Sabbath is not not not in the New Covenant. If it were then clearly clearly cleary we would find at least some hint of a command to observe it but we do not not not.

This is one of the major problems with Sabbaterians in that they follow a tradition not at all supported by scripture nor in the early church.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


Robin //The 7th day was set apart and made holy by our Creator. It is a memorial of Creation and honors our creator.

While that is an individual religious conviction, there is no command for Christians to observe the Sabbath.

The only memorial thing the church observes according to scripture is the Eucharist. "Do this in remembrance of me".

Lu 22:19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


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Jerry //Jesus, the Apostles, and ALL the disciples of the Bible kept the seventh-day Sabbath. Anyone claiming to be a true, Orthodox Christian should do likewise.

Your understanding of the Bible and church history is very very very limited.

Jesus was a Jew and followed all the laws perfectly found in Judaism, but there is nothing in scripture that bades us to convert to Judaism.

Galatians 4:4-5 But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law,to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


Jerry //One thing is obvious. Those who are in favor of keeping the seventh-day Sabbath point to scripture as their justification. Those who are not tend to cite man-made constructs and use demeaning personal attacks.
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You have been misguided regarding personal attacks on those who chose to honor their tradition of observing the Jewish Sabbath.

Walk into any Adventist service and all you hear is hatred towards other Christians who worship the Lord on Sundays - a hatred matched only of the devil himself.

And the most evil people to Adventists are Roman Catholics, some who are the most moral of people.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


Mark Discoll of Mars Hill Seattle has a great sermon on Sabbath called Work and Worship.
Just some high points
1) A sabbath can be voluntary (your choice) or mandatory (sickness).
2) Vacation with your work computer is not a Sabbath. Jesus left the disciples to be alone.
3) Perspective and priorities - work does not need you 24/7. Get a hobby, Jesus liked dinners.
4) More productive - Take a day off, it will increase productivity in the long run. Are you greater than God, Gen CH.1?
5) don't use as excuse to not do good on Sabbath. Pick a Jesus healing.
6) volunteering/working at church on Sunday is not a sabbath.
Personally I like Saturday - mens breakfast, discgolf, golf, football game, gym, board games etc.
---Scott1 on 9/26/12


Christan, Which parts of the Law do you suggest that I disregard?
---Gordon on 9/26/12


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Francis/Jerry - if you really want to know the fallacies of Adventist religious doctrine, I strongly suggest read Seventh-Day Adventism Denounced by Canright.

It has been a work used by the Lord to deliver many from the bondage of heretical beliefs.

Dudley Marvin Canright (18401919) was a pastor in the Seventh-day Adventist Church for 22 years, who later left the church and became one of its severest critics.

He joined the church in 1859, at age 19, and rose through the ministry to a position of prominence on the General Conference, a committee of Seventh-day Adventist Church leaders.

He also wrote The Life of Mrs. E.G. White as he was intimately acquainted with the White having even lived with them on occasion.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


//What you suggest is the Lord Jesus is Lord of the sabbath and there is no day appointed as the sabbath??

What the lesson the Lord is making here is that human needs supercede the restrictions imposed by the Sabbath. The disciples were picking grain in the field because they were hungry and they were accused of working on the Sabbath.

The Lord pointed out that even king David ignored the rules regarding the temple shewbread in feeding his men who were hungry.

Note also the previous verses regarding putting new wine into old wineskins, and about sewing new patches onto old garments. The lesson here is that the tenets of the Old Covenant were not to be put into the New Covenant, however there is some commonality.
---elee7537 on 9/26/12


What you have in your communal worship on Saturday is tradition as there is nothing nothiing nothing in the New Testament that even suggests Christians need to observe the Sabbath commandment.

great we have something to work with here!!! What you suggest is that the Lord Jesus is Lord of the sabbath and there is no day appointed as the sabbath?? interesting, please point to the exact scripture something, something, something, that abolishes the holy sabbath day. People can follow the Lord Jesus who is Lord of 7th day Sabbath or follow false ministers who have nothing nothing nothing to prove their disobedience to God and rejecting his holy sabbath day.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/26/12


\\The Sabbath is NOT only a Jewish observance....
The beginning of the fourth commandment says to "remember."\\
---Steveng on 9/25/12

If you do an online NASB search for the words:
When You Enter

You will see that over a dozen times God referred to the Law in direct correlation to the land that He was giving them.

The Law was given SPECIFICALLY to Israel, and it was aimed SPECIFICALLY at the beliefs and practices of the Canannites.
---James_L on 9/26/12


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Gordon, please read the Scriptures carefully with regards to the doctrine of the Sabbath. It's all been revealed in the NT with regards to what was given in the OT through the Gospel and epistles. Nothing that the Christian needs to know about who God was writing about is left unclear.

The sabbath day is a day of rest as in the OT but it's been revealed in the NT that the rest for the Christian is now in Christ. If you want to understand that I was saying Christ is a "day", then that's a misinterpretation on your part.

And if you love the Lord, you will know your obedience to Him is to rest in Christ 100% and not on performing the law. However, I am not implying you discard the law altogether.
---christan on 9/26/12


Gen 3:1-2 "Thus the heavens and the earth and all the host of them were finished. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made." The 7th day was set apart and made holy by our Creator. It is a memorial of Creation and honors our creator. Keeping it is an act of worship and submission to the authority of Him who established it. It is not a shadow of things to come fulfilled in Christ. Those were ceremonial sabbaths, not the weekly Sabbath. We know this because it was established and made holy before sin entered the world.
---Robin on 9/26/12


Jesus, the Apostles, and ALL the disciples of the Bible kept the seventh-day Sabbath. Anyone claiming to be a true, Orthodox Christian should do likewise.



---jerry6593 on 9/26/12


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One thing is obvious. Those who are in favor of keeping the seventh-day Sabbath point to scripture as their justification. Those who are not tend to cite man-made constructs and use demeaning personal attacks.

I think the choice is obvious as to which God prefers.

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---jerry6593 on 9/26/12


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Not everyone who claims to be christian is going to heaven.
DO not deceive yourself into believing that you can live in sin, contrary to any one of Gods ten commandments and expect to be saved.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

James 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

James 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

With that in mind, i invite all who have love for God to join us THIS SABBATH as we gather to worship our creator in spirit and in truth
---francis on 9/25/12


steveng //The beginning of the fourth commandment says to "remember."

If the Sabbath were something in existence prior to mt. Sinai, there would be at least some record concerning it. but there is none. We also do not see anything to resembles a sabbath in other ancient societies.

The 'remember the sabbath' is simply a reminder that the nation of Isreal was not to forget the Sabbath given only to them.

When did God give the Sabbath, scripture is very plain on that issue.

De 5:15 You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.
---elee7537 on 9/25/12


As a Seventh day Adventist I am glad I do not depend on the law to be saved. I am saved by the JESUS CHRIST and him alone. It is by Grace alone that I am saved through faith alone.

But I also recognize that I am to love GOD and love others when I do not love GOD and others then I am not really saved.

1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

I want to follow what the Apostles wrote.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/25/12


//What shall it profit a man to boast of keeping the Fourth Commandment, when he approves of violating the Sixth?\\
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It is doubtful if those that are Sabbaterians really observe the Sabbath in accordance to how it was first given at Mt. Sinai.

Those that depend upon the law for their eternal salvation really do not understand the gospel as faith in Christ is all that is required.

Galatians 3:25-26 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian (ie. the law), for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.
---elee7537 on 9/25/12


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The Sabbath is NOT only a Jewish observance..,

it was established thousands of years before Moses gave the Ten Commandments and before the nation of Israel became a nation. The beginning of the fourth commandment says to "remember." To remember something one must have been told something in the past for it to be remembered.

Besides, why would God establish the Sabbath, then repeal it and then re-establish it in the new earth.
---Steveng on 9/25/12


Francis//Take time to study your bible, or at least read it:

I strongly recommend that Christians study the Bible as much as they can as well as share what it teaches with others, especially with those that the Lord has called into the ministry of teaching.

Also recommend that they employ a study Bible and if possible take a college level course in it.

If you were truly a student of the Bible you would have to acknowledge the fact that Isaiah 66:23 in plain English can be as follows:

"All humanity will come to worship me from week to week and from month to month."

The New Living Translation better brings out the true meaning in plain English. Suggest you purchase one.
---elee7537 on 9/25/12


Francis //ANd then god establishes sabbath for all who will covenant with Him. Jew and stranger
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The verses you quote from Isaiah pertain to those that would become proselytes to Judaism but Christians are not not not proselytes to Judaism. If they were, then they would have to become physically circumcised and when they do that, they would be obligated to observe all all all the law, customs, traditions,etc. found in the Torah.

Ga 5:3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.

I would suggest that you and FofC become circumcised so you can play the Jew in your religious game according to all all all the rules.
---elee7537 on 9/25/12


Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it:

The Sabbath was established, and yet not a sngle jew in sight

Isaiah 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant,

Isaiah 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices [shall be] accepted upon mine altar,

ANd then god establishes sabbath for all who will covenant with Him. Jew and stranger
---francis on 9/25/12


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Sorry FofC but the Sabbath is totally a Jewish observance.

The Sabbath is only meaningful to the Jewish people as it reflects back on the time when they were slaves in Egypt.

What you have in your communal worship on Saturday is tradition as there is nothing nothiing nothing in the New Testament that even suggests Christians need to observe the Sabbath commandment.

If I were you in your game of playing Jew, suggest that you go down to the rabbi and get yourself circumcised since you really want to be under the law that was given only only only to the Jewish people.
---elee7537 on 9/25/12


And to top that off, breaking the Jewish sabbath is not listed as a sin in all the listings of sins found in the New Testament.


top off the topped off guess what? there is no Jewish Sabbath in holy scripture. why do you spread lies????

sabbath days are for mankind, and like it or not the Lord Jesus was a Jew, although being a Jew has nothing to do with keeping the sabbath day

sabbath day was established by God and law breakers, who adore their false ministers who teach law breaking, love to pretend they are Christians and insist the sabbath day has been abolished and still they have no scripture to support their law breaking!!! follow them or follow the Lord Jesus who is Lord of the sabbath day.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/25/12


However, for those Christians that hold only to the New Covenant, there is no requirement to observe any day.
---elle7537 on 9/25/12
Take time to study your bible, or at least read it:
Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, ..it shall come to pass, that ..from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

The same sabbath that you reject now, is a required day of worship in the new earth

which shows that the sabbath is not a shadow, it is a celebration of God as creator
---francis on 9/25/12


\\...there are "christians" who make a big case about keeping the Saturday sabbath, but whose church approves of killing unborn babies.

What shall it profit a man to boast of keeping the Fourth Commandment, when he approves of violating the Sixth?\\
---Cluny on 9/22/12


Worth repeating.

Good stuff.
---James_L on 9/25/12


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The day of atonement points time when Jesus as high priest will cleanse the temple from sin:

Hebrews 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true,


The sabbath points to Jehovah as creator
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Exodus 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it
---francis on 9/25/12


Jerry //Exo 20:11 For in 6 days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all in them is, and rested the 7th day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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De 5:15 You shall remember you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. THEREFORE the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.

God commanded Noah to build a boat. Did God command it of us? No.

God gave Israel the Sabbath in remembrance of their slavery in Egypt.

Were you or your ancestors slaves in Egypt?

Did God command His church to observe the Sabbath? NO, all we see of the Sabbath in the NT was connected with Jewish worship.
---elee7537 on 9/25/12


\\Tonight is the beginning of Yom Kipper - the day of Atonement for the jewish people. If one observes the Sabbath, then he or she also should observe ALL the laws of the Jews.\\

I've asked about that many times, but never get an answer.

These days are called "sabbaths" as well in the OT. Why do some people pick and choose which sabbaths they observe?

It's either ALL of them, or NONE of them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/25/12


Tonight is the beginning of Yom Kipper - the day of Atonement for the jewish people. If one observes the Sabbath, then he or she also should observe ALL the laws of the Jews.

However, for those Christians that hold only to the New Covenant, there is no requirement to observe any day. Adventists and other Sabbaterians simply want to believe they are Jewish and want to PLAY RELIGION - a game to them as it gives them legitimacy to judge or criticize other Christians thereby elevating themselves above others, much the same as the hypocritcal Pharisees did with others.
---elle7537 on 9/25/12


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christcs, The Lord YAHUSHUA (JESUS CHRIST) is not a "day". He is not a day. He is the Lord. And, He is the One by which the Sabbath was created. And, the Sabbath was created FOR MANKIND to observe, in honour of the LORD. And, yes, in YAHUSHUA is our Rest, but, in that Rest comes necessity to obey the LORD's Commands. If we love the Lord we will obey Him. The Sabbath is one of His Commands for us. YAHUSHUA obeyed the Sabbath, unto His Father. The Church obeyed the Sabbath, as shown in the Book of ACTS, Chapters 17, 18, etc.
---Gordon on 9/25/12


Trish, In a "perfect world", if all would honour GOD and HIS Sabbath, and do no work on that day, then GOD is very all-Powerful enough to miraculously prevent any crimes, physical injuries and fires from occurring, just because the World would be Blessing HIM by obeying HIS Command. But, the World is not perfect, so it's GOD's people that must obey the Sabbath. If they're firemen, police or medics, they must pray for GOD's Favour that they that day off. If not that, get employment where one can get the Sabbath off. We have to obey GOD. HE will make a way for us to obey HIS Command. Otherwise, I would say that the police, medics and firemen are those who "pull the oxen out of the ditch" and would have GOD's "pass".
---Gordon on 9/25/12


Mark V., Re-read my comment. I said "work-for-pay" is ONE of the works that are not allowable on the Sabbath. (But, as Trish asked- the firemen, police and doctors may be the only exception, because they are like the ones who "rescue the animal caught in the ditch") All other labour is not allowable. Not the gathering of food either. One should have enough food gathered and prepared the day before the Sabbath, for the Sabbath Day. Read EXODUS 16! And, pulling an apple off of a tree to eat, or, plucking the heads of grain and rubbing them in the hands in order to eat is NOT forbidden work. It's not working long hours of labour. One must study more about the Sabbath to understand it better. It's a Commandment.
---Gordon on 9/25/12


The sabbath day was merely pointing to a person, the Lord Jesus Christ. For Jesus (the Son of God) declared, "For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day." Matthew 12:8, ie. He is the Sabbath rest.

Christ is the one who will give His people rest. For He said, "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30

Have you rested in Christ or are you still trying to obey the law to be saved?
---christcs on 9/25/12


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elee, lee, mary g, etc:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it

1Ch 17:27 .... for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever.


---jerry6593 on 9/25/12


Gordon, you conclude that work is for money, that no one should work on the Sabbath. But work can be any kind of work. Old Testament people worked on the fields not for money but for food. It was food to be supplied for themselves. There was no money there. So what you are saying they too could not work, even though it was not for money. I looked in Scripture where God ever mentioned we were to worship on Saturday, could not find one passage. I looked for what day God started creation, could not find it. I looked for where women had to lite two candles on the Sabbath, could not find it. I looked for many things you guys promote and could not find any evidence that Saturday came from God. So what do you have to say about that?
---Mark_V. on 9/25/12


Trish// I totally understand that. However, would it be a sin for a police officer, nurse, or doctor to work on the Sabbath? I do not believe it to be a sin.
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And to top that off, breaking the Jewish sabbath is not listed as a sin in all the listings of sins found in the New Testament.

These people are really not anchored in that faith once and for all delievered to the saints, but are instead misguided foolish and maybe even evil people.

Mt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
---elee7537 on 9/24/12


Gordon, I totally understand that. However, would it be a sin for a police officer, nurse, or doctor to work on the Sabbath? I do not believe it to be a sin.
---Trish on 9/24/12


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Trish, What YAHUSHUA (JESUS) did is what are called "Good Works". Such as Healing Miracles, and, yes, if an animal needed rescuing from a ditch, He would've gone to fetch it out. Those types of things are allowable on the Sabbath. It's the "Work for money" and the doing of housechores and yardwork and the buying and selling, which all require on-going sweat-of-the-brow labour and sometimes for pay, is what is forbidden. Rescuing an animal to save it's life and healing a human being to restore their life is not the kinds of "Works" that GOD forbids on the Sabbath. That was of the Pharisee's misinterpretation of GOD's Sabbath Commandment which caused much trouble and confusion in that day, and, obviously still does.
---Gordon on 9/24/12


Col 2:17 says, Sabbaths are only a shadow of things to come. But the body of Christ far outstrips it in the plan of God.

Being a member of His body is way beyond sabbath-keeping in God's order and plan.


Interesting! well for starters where in Colossians 2:17 (or anywhere in Colossians) does it state "But the body of Christ far outstrips it in the plan of God." that is quite a stretch there.

being a member of his body is way-beyond sabbath keeping? really? well if you don't keep the sabbath holy then how can you claim you serve the Lord Jesus? He is Lord of the sabbath day you profess is worthless. If the day is worthless then so is your Lord. For Believers the Lord of the Sabbath is Jesus.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/24/12


Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever.

The verse means His unchangeableness relates to His character and attributes, not necessarily to his instructions, laws or commands.

He commanded Noah to go build a boat, but are you to do the same?

He commanded Israel to observe the Sabbath, but He did not tell His church to do so.

If He had, we would most certainly see something of a command in the new Testament to do so or at least see its non-observance as a sin, but we do not.

All mention of the Sabbath in the New Testament pertains only to the worship system of the Jews - a system that required physical circumcision to be a participant -something not required of Gentile believers.
---elee7537 on 9/24/12


that is a great answer francis...sabbath is SATURDAY and & will be always saturday not sunday. christ never changed that sabbath is sunday. there were 1st century christians who made a service on a sunday but it was not sunday OFFICIALLY. sabbath is a rest after the creation.
---mike on 9/24/12


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Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Sabbath yesterdayGenesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it:

Sabbath is still celebrated in the church today:
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

And I am pleased to say that those who keep the sabbath today, will keep it for ever :

Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth... And it shall come to pass, that.. from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Hebrews 13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines JOIN US THIS COMING SABBATH for a holy convocation
---francis on 9/23/12


Christians fill up every minute of every day with family, friends, work, school, shopping, keeping fit, entertainment, television, radio, ipods, computers, internet, phone calls, texting, church and church activities (the denominational ones), bible study, etc. When does a christian have time to develop an intimate relationship with God? Wouldn't it be a swell idea to devote just one day of your precious time with God? And wouldn't it be a swell idea to have a relationship on the day HE chose instead of the day YOU chose? Remember: prophesy says that even during the soon to come new heavens and new earth that the Sabbath shall be kept and it will be on a day HE chose already.
---Steveng on 9/23/12


1C 15:28 ...the Son also himself [will] be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God [the Father]may be all in all.

This is the Sabbath, when God dwells in us all, after His Son reconciles all the universe physical and spiritual (see Col 1:20)

Rest and peace will fill the universe when His creation is redeemed.

We already are at peace with Him, and making Him our All, by power of Holy Spirit.

Col 2:17 says, Sabbaths are only a shadow of things to come. But the body of Christ far outstrips it in the plan of God.

Being a member of His body is way beyond sabbath-keeping in God's order and plan.

It is but a shadow of the day when God becomes All in all.
---Phil on 9/23/12


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One thing is obvious. Those who are in favor of keeping the seventh-day Sabbath point to scripture as their justification. Those who are not tend to cite man-made constructs and use demeaning personal attacks.

I think the choice is obvious as to which God prefers.

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---jerry6593 on 9/23/12


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The sabbath is and always will be about God the creator:

Genesis 2:2 and 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Besides being one of the ten commandments, there is a biblical call to worship God as CREATOR:

Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him, for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
---francis on 9/22/12


And "keeping the seventh day" -the old Jewish Sabbath that had it fulfillment in the ministry of Christ (Mt. 5:17), today is simply to its adherents going to church.

Anyone with the ability to read and reason can see that there is virtually nothing in the New Testament that commands the observance of any day. While Adventists point to various verses in Acts, they fail to understand that the gathering of Jews in the synagogues on the Sabbath presented an opportunity for the early church to witness that Jesus was the promised Messiah. No where did the Apostles or their successors teach sabbath observance.
---elee7537 on 9/22/12


What surprises me the most is that there are "christians" who make a big case about keeping the Saturday sabbath, but whose church approves of killing unborn babies.

What shall it profit a man to boast of keeping the Fourth Commandment, when he approves of violating the Sixth?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/22/12


tatenda_makichi does it surprise you more that there are Christians who keep the 7th day as the sabbath day, or that there are "christians" who do not keep the 7th day as the sabbath day?
---francis on 9/22/12


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Is it lawful? It depends on whether you follow Gods 10 holy laws. If you don't, then keeping the Sabbath holy as God commanded doesn't apply to you. If you do, then you would find that God commanded the Sabbath Day to be forever Exodus 31:16, and it was God who made the 7th day holy not man. The Apostles and the Lord kept the Sabbath day and the Lord Jesus is also Lord of the Sabbath day. The day has never been abolished, it has never been changed. If you do not observe the 7th day Sabbath then you do not follow the Lord because by keeping the sabbath day holy it is a sign between God and his people Exodus 31:13
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/22/12


When the Jews obeyed God, they were rewarded. When the Jews disobeyed God, they were punished. But they always kept the
Friday evening/Saturday evening Sabbath.

Now, if you take an event that is positively identified on both the Jewish calendar and the Gregorian calendar and overlaid the Gregorian calendar on top of the Jewish calendar when both days match, you'll find that the Sabbath is on Friday/Saturday.

By the way, the Sabbath was before the Ten Commandments from Moses because the commandments said to REMEMBER the Sabbath.
---Steveng on 9/21/12


The Bible makes it plain that God kept the Sabbath--Gen 2:2 & 3, Heb 5:4. When accused of Sabbath breaking, God said, The Son of man is Lord of the Sabbath and that it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath. God kept the Sabbath as He had from the beginning--Mat 12:8, Mar 2:28, Luke 6:5 & Mar 3:4-6, Luke 6:9-11, 13:10-16. No Christian I know would say that God is a lawbreaker since love is the fulfilling of the law and this is the love of God to keep His commandments.
The Bible says that the seventh day is that day--Gen 2:2 & 3, Exo 16:22-30, Exo 20:11, Heb 5:4. Even those who do not keep the seventh day as the Sabbath tend to admit that the 7th day is the day spoken of as the Sabbath in scripture.
---Wayne8983 on 9/21/12


Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day..And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it:
Exodus 20:11 wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

God set aside, sanctified, or hallowed the 7th day.not A th but THE 7th.

The sabbath cannot be any other day but the 7th day because that time period is blessed and set aside by God.

There is not one single verse where God sanctifies, sets aside, hallows or blesses on any other day

2 Thessalonians 2:10 because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
---francis on 9/21/12


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The Sabbath was to be a day of rest. Yet, Jesus worked on the Sabbath in rescuing the sheep.

In my opinion, this argument is a perfect example of gagging on gnats, or discussing how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. I do not believe such a discussion honors our Lord, and gets ugly.

I honor the Sabbath on Sundays, as does my Church. If you choose to keep the Sabbath on Friday evening to Saturday sundown, God bless you.

I had quite a few SDA students, and we had several private discussions about the Lord. I am friends with them on Facebook, now that they are adults. They love the Lord and seek to glorify Him with their lives.
---Trish on 9/21/12


GENESIS 2:2-3 says that GOD created all in the first six days of the Creation Week, and on the 7th Day HE rested. HE "Sanctified" the 7th Day. Since then, all of time has been marked by 7-day weeks which are patterned after the Creation Week period of time. GOD sanctified the 7th day. To "sanctify" means to "make Holy" or "to Set-Apart unto GOD". GOD made us in HIS Image, so we are to, likewise, do all our labours within the first six days of the week, and rest on the 7th day, honouring it as a day set-apart especially unto GOD. EXODUS 20:8-11 tells us that the Sabbath is the 7th Day of the week. In the Book of ACTS, the Church, consisting of both Jew and Gentile Believers observed the 7th day Sabbath.
---Gordon on 9/21/12


The Sabbath was never obligatory on Gentiles. The verses saying "There shall be one law for you and one for the stranger in your gates" refer to who may eat the Passover and what may be offered as a victim in sacrifice, if you look at the context.

Paganism has no parallel. Despite the polemics of some, pagans NEVER worshipped the sun on Sunday. They had yearly feasts, but never a weekly day of worship.

Furthermore, the very word "sabbath" means "cessation." The commandment, as originally given, had to do with a rest from labor that extended even to one's servants and farm animals, not worship.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/21/12


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