ChristiaNet MallWorld's Largest Christian MallChristian BlogsFree Bible QuizzesFree Ecards and Free Greeting CardsLoans, Debt, Business and Insurance Articles

Economic And Moral Decline

Do you believe the economic and moral decline of this nation is due to the fact that God's people who are called by his name have not humbled themselves, and prayed, and sought after God, and turned from their wicked ways?

Join Our Free Chat and Take The Financial Bible Quiz
 ---trey on 9/23/12
     Helpful Blog Vote (4)

Post a New Blog



Peter and the eleven were Israel's apostles
---michael_e on 12/15/12

Acts 10:28 Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation, but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 15:7 Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe


Peter was before Paul taking the Gospel to the Gentiles
---francis on 12/16/12


To Paul God revealed the "mystery of Christ" the secret purpose which God has in Christ concerning us Gentiles and the "new creation" He is forming today. Which secret purpose God had kept "hid in Himself" before but has now made known, and which He is accomplishing before He resumes and fulfills His program with Israel.
Paul's apostleship IS special and different from that of the 12. Paul is God's apostle for us today in this present dispensation of His grace to us. In his epistles God has gave His word which is expressly TO US and ABOUT US today. The 12, in contrast, were commissioned by the Lord in connection with His program with Israel. Their ministry and writings pertain to God's program with Israel.
---michael_e on 12/16/12


michael e, the first gospel of Christ in (Gen. 3:15) is prophetic of the struggle and its outcome between "your seed" (satan and unbelievers, who are called the devils children in John 8:44) and her seed (Christ, a descendant of Eve, and those in Him) which began in the garden. "in the midst of the curse passage a message of hope shone forth, the woman's offspring called "He" is Christ who will one day defeat the Serpent, will bruise satan's head (destroy him with a fatal blow). Paul, in a passage reminiscent of (Gen. 3) encouraged the believers in Rome that the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly" (Rom. 16:20)
That same gospel became more clear through history, yet the same gospel.
---Mark_V. on 12/16/12


\\Peter and the eleven were Israel's apostles (Matt. 19:28, Gal. 2:8).\\

Then why did Andrew go to Scythia and Thomas to India and Thaddeus to Persia?

Please explain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/16/12


Failure to recognize the distinctive nature of Paul's apostleship and message brings confusion as to where we stand. Such confusion is foolish, as Paul says: "For I SPEAK TO YOU GENTILES, INASMUCH AS I AM THE APOSTLE OF THE GENTILES..." (Rom 11:13).
Paul is OUR Apostle--
Peter and the eleven were Israel's apostles (Matt. 19:28, Gal. 2:8). Paul's gospel is our gospel--in contrast to that proclaimed by the twelve (Gal. 1:11,12, 2:6-9). Paul says "God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel" (Rom. 2:16).

Knowing who our Apostle isn't enough, we must know what he has said to us.

Paul's gospel deals with salvation in Christ through his work on the cross clear from 1 Cor. 15:1-4.
---michael_e on 12/15/12




Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them:

The NT tells us that the OT saints did hear the gospel of salvation, the gospel fo grace, the gospel of the kingdom

VISUAL PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL
Exodus 25:8 And let them make me a sanctuary,

Earthly sanctuary where the Gospel of the kingdom is preached. Jesus is pictured as Lamb,and High priest,

FIRST PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL: Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed, it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

SECOND PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL:
Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
---francis on 12/15/12


John 20:9 "For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead."
Like that, there were other things which were due in their own time- not that they were to be excluded from them:

John 16:12 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now."

Also, of many things there was no need of 'knowledge' being that The Knowledge itself, The Word was walking with them
and keeping them.
---Nana on 12/15/12


MarkV you say
Everyone ever saved, was saved by the gospel of grace. OT saints looked forward to the crucifixion, we look back to it. That makes no sense. No one can believe a gospel they haven't heard. The twelve didn't know Christ was going to be killed, much less die as the sacrifice for sins (Luke 18:31-34 and Matt 16:21-22). After His crucifixion, they didn't know He would rise until after it happened (John 20:9). Clearly, they couldn't believe our gospel, that Christ would be crucified and rise from the dead. It was hidden from them by God. They believed the kingdom gospel, that Jesus was who He said He was.(Matt 16:16 and John 11:27). if they didn't know our gospel of grace after three years, no one else before that time knew it.
---michael_e on 12/15/12


Phil, the teachings of justification by faith is a teaching. The whole New Testament we hear teachings. Teachings to whom? To those who are believers already. people already believed in the works of Christ on the Cross and need to know how it all came about. It is not another gospel. And teachings on how to live a godly live. The teachings were for those who were saved already by the same gospel, because only they could believe. When I tell people today about God saving them, that they did not save themselves, I am speaking to believers who believe already. Unbelievers don't care about salvation, or want to know anything concerning spiritual matters, the Truth is foolishness to them.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/12


michael e, you said,

"Paul received the gospel of grace by direct revelation from the Lord."
the other disciples receive the gospel in the Person of Jesus Christ, no different, and even witness His death and resurrection from the dead. Then you said,
"He was appointed as the apostle of the Gentiles to reveal mysteries previously kept hidden."

Yes, kept hidden from the Gentiles. They had no clue what the gospel was. It was still the same gospel many heard and believed.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/12




Paul received the gospel of grace by direct revelation from the Lord. He was appointed as the apostle of the Gentiles to reveal mysteries previously kept hidden. One of these is the mystery of the gospel. Paul writes in Eph 6:18-20 "Praying always ... for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the MYSTERY OF THE GOSPEL (1Cor 15:1-4) for which I am an ambassador in bonds ...." Paul's gospel had been a mystery , not been known to anyone before God revealed it to him.
---michael_e on 12/14/12


Ephesians 3:5_7 "Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit,
That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power."

Which is what I just said, "Same kingdom, same vine."
---Nana on 12/13/12


Until Paul was severed by Holy Spirit from the twelve apostles in Jerusalem, he preached the Kingdom gospel of John and the Lord, as well as the grace of God.

As Israel's rejection became more and more apparent, his message began to change. The door was being shut on the earthly kingdom, and the celestial kingdom began to take precedence over it.

Entrance into the heavenly kingdom, where Christ makes all things new, is gotten through believing Paul's evangel. No other Apostle, or even the Lord, taught justification by faith alone.
---Phil on 12/14/12


Phil, I got to hand it to you, you come out with some weird answers. Look, in Scripture the only ones called evangels are the writers of the four gospels.
On the other hand, all who preach the gospel are evangelist. Even those today who preach the gospel of Jesus Christ are evangelist. I cannot write everyone's name, no space there to do that.

Michael e, Paul was given one mystery that others in the New Testament were not given, the mystery was that Gentiles would be included together with the jews for salvation. The gospel was still the same gospel. That all man were condemned for rebelling against God and great need of Christ for their salvation, since the law could never save anyone.
---Mark_V. on 12/14/12


Paul was the first apostle made aware of our Lord paying for our sins through His death and shed blood?
It was a mystery, until our risen Lord revealed it to Paul.

Matt 16:21-22, Luke 18:33-34, John 20:9,the twelve didn't know Jesus was going to die and rise again from the dead. It was hidden by God.

Paul received the gospel of grace by revelation from our Lord. Gal 1:11-12, He was appointed the apostle of the Gentiles to reveal mysteries previously kept hidden. One of these is the mystery of the gospel. Eph 6:18-20, "... that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel for which I am an ambassador in bonds ...." Paul's gospel had not been known to anyone before God revealed it to him.
---michael_e on 12/13/12


---Mark_V. on 12/13/12

This is supplied for you to study.

Mt 4:23 the evangel of the kingdom
Mk 1:1 the evangel of Jesus Christ
Lk 2:10 an evangel of great joy
Ac 5:42 the evangel of Christ Jesus.
Ac 10:36 the evangel of peace
Ac 15:35 the evangel of the word of the Lord
Ac 17:18the evangel of Jesus and the resurrection.
Ac 20:24 the evangel of the grace of God.
Ro 1:1 the evangel of God
Ro 1:9 evangel of His Son
Ro 10:15 evangel of good
Ro 15:19 the evangel of the Christ.
2C 4:4 the evangel of the glory of Christ
Ga 2:7 the evangel of the Uncircumcision
Eph 3:8 the evangel of the untraceable riches of Christ to the nations
1Ti 1:11 the evangel of the glory of the happy God
---Phil on 12/13/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Dating


michael_e,

Ever heard of Cornelius the Centurion in Acts 10?
To think thet Jesus spent 3 years teaching, not knowing of the coming acceptance of Gentiles? That is error, the error which was dispelled from Peter which until then tought nothing of welcoming them to the faith. To which faith do you think was Cornelius baptized if not to the faith in Christ? Paul said we are graffed to where the natural branches (in faith) are graffed.
Jesus said,
Matthew 21:43 "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."
Same kingdom, same vine.

I disagree with you therefore.
---Nana on 12/13/12


Paul denounced anyone that preaches any other gospel to US, not anyone who ever preached any other gospel to anyone? He said, "If any man preach any other gospel unto YOU"...
Did Christ in His earthly ministry preach, John the Baptist or the twelve apostles of the circumcision ever preach a gospel to us? No. They preached to the nation of Israel under the the law of Moses, not to us who are under the dispensation of grace. Paul's statement of anathema is not applicable to Moses, Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, or the twelve apostles. Not because they didn't preach another gospel. They did. The statement doesn't apply to them because they didn't preach another gospel to us, Christians in this dispensation of grace.
---michael_e on 12/13/12


Phil, you now say ,

"Scripture has established there are many evangels." There was four considered evangels, the four writers of the gospels. then said,
"There is not "one" well-message. There are several."
The message is one in the same, Jesus came to save sinners and died for their sins. All four moved by the Spirit wrote in their own words the events that happened, the reason they are not exactly the same. You say,
"... without this studying prejudice will fortify the unlearned."
You are correct, prejudice has come to your answers. You want so hard to separate believers. Jewish believers and Gentile believers are the same they put their faith in Jesus Christ.
---Mark_V. on 12/13/12


---Mark_V. on 12/11/12

Scripture has established there are many evangels. There is not "one" well-message. There are several. It is the subject of study, and without this studying prejudice will fortify the unlearned.

Hb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets.

This is the opening to the Hebrew epistle. Examine it and be instructed. It is written to the Jews, not us. We have no "fathers".

"Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son,"

He spoke to Jews only, not to the Gentiles.
---Phil on 12/12/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Health Treatments


//---Phil on 12/11/12///
To both post...

Thank-you very much Phil.

I most certainly can digest this, Thank-you for providing the scriptures I have copied and pasted this for my notes to study.

Shalom :)

---char on 12/12/12


Phil, you say,

"We cannot be the bride and also the bridegroom as well."

The bride is the Church, the called out ones. All those who believe through faith, are the Church, believers all through Scripture history. Jesus is the Head of the Church, as the husband is Head of the wife in marriage. Not as her literal head.
Second, not all Israel is Israel, the reason is that only those with a circumcise heart or the real Israel of God. The same holds true for all Gentile believers. There is no salvation to those who died rejecting Christ from Israel. Only the elect are saved.
---Mark_V. on 12/12/12


Matthew 21:42_45 "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them."
Divorce?
---Nana on 12/12/12


In the bible we are citizens of the heavenly realms..Can you elaborate on this too?
---char on 12/10/12

Re 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.

2C 5:17 So that, if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation: the primitive passed by.

Ro 8:30 ..these He justifies also, now whom He justifies, these He glorifies also.

1C 15:42 It is sown in corruption, it is roused in incorruption.

1C 15:49 And according as we wear the image of the soilish, we should be wearing the image also of the Celestial.

Eph 1:3 Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials.

Our allotment is in heaven, not on earth.
---Phil on 12/11/12


Send a Free Thinking of You Ecard


Phil, Paul preached the same gospel that begin in (Gen. 3:15) When Adam and Eve sinned, God graciously intervened, promised a Redeemer. Even prophets spoke of the Redeemer. (Heb. 4:1,2) say,
"Therefore, since the promise of entering His (Christ) rest still stands, let us be careful that none of us be found to have fallen short of it, "For we also have had the gospel preached to us, "just as they did," but the message they heard was not of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith" Paul said,
"The Scriptures foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham" (Gal. 3:8,9).
The same gospel Paul preached.
---Mark_V. on 12/11/12


--char on 12/9/12

Jehovah compared His people Israel to a wife many, many times. He did not use it for another race.

The accusations He hurled at them was as their husband, and lover, they were His bride in the wilderness.

He chose them, delivered them, used them to demonstrate His love. They continually rejected His intimacy, and spurned His love.

They will return to Him, and love Him, and will be His redeemed wife.

The Gentile nations could never be married to Jehovah. His covenant to His earthly people is inviolate.

Our redemption, our allotment is in Him, and finds fulfillment in heaven, with changed bodies, in His image.

We cannot be the bride and also the bridegroom as well.
---Phil on 12/11/12


//In the bible we are citizens of the heavenly realms, and as the messengers [angels KJV] there.---Phil on 9/24/12//

Can you elaborate on this too?

Thanks.
---char on 12/10/12


//---Phil on 12/9/12//

Is this what you are saying?
Body of Christ-Christ being the Head of the body: The groom
Israel/the Bride of this lamb.
Jer31:3-12, Ps 45:9, Is61:10-11

If I am mistaken you, I take it upon myself. Not that you are not explaining it, but that I may not be understanding, please be patience with me. I think I may agree with you here.

Thanks
---char on 12/9/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Affiliate Program


God bless you bro.Trey, this is ELENA. I am trying so hard myself to understand but yes, I agree. The world and yes, our nation has been slowly, now quickly we can see complete as if it be candle meltdown...decline in every way If we all. & I speak in general, took time think back we most of us even in my case somebody somewhere came into our lives that we would know as the lord use them we learn what is good as thus saith the lord.
Everything has changed! People don' t even respect like they use to..
---ELENA on 12/9/12


Last comment...
When I was still young I could tell my neighbor watch my door/ apt. Till I get back.
Now more than likely I would never let NO one know I am leaving home or stay away long because in this city.it probably your own neighbor who will set you up or they rob you. I already been through it. God we need to saturate us on the inside.amen.
---ELENA on 12/9/12


The body of Christ is not the "people of God". It is the body of Christ. Christ has a body, we are His body. He cannot deny Himself.

The bride of the Lambkin, or the misnamed "bride of Christ", is Jewish. It is formed by the elect of Israel. We are not the bride. We are not the remnant.

We are new creations, being formed in the image of His Son, Christ Jesus. From glory to glory, day by day, we are being conformed to inhabit our new humanity we received upon believing Paul's gospel.

This world system will fail. A new system is coming. No amount of prayer will avert this coming change of regimes. His Son will occupy His rightful place as King, no matter our sentiments.
---Phil on 12/9/12


Well said Nana.
---JackB on 12/9/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Abortion Facts


Nana, you now say,

"That "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved"

Of course that is true. Only those who call on the name of the Lord shall be save. The others will not. It doesn't mean they have free will. They will not call because they are doing the desires of their father the devil, they do not want to do the will of God. Here let me tell you why:

"As it is written,
"There is none righteous, no, not one."
"There is none who understands"
"There is none who seeks after God"
(Rom. 3:10,11).
How can they call on the name of the Lord, if they do not seek after God?
Nana, they don't understand, you don't either.
---Mark_V. on 12/9/12


"But your will doesn't want to. you don't desire to tell the Truth."
Mark_V. on 12/8/12

Nevertheless, regardless of what you know my will or my desires are, you say:
"Nana, for your information, so that you understand..." Trying to make yourself and your message simply understood, hey?
Peter did the same, Acts 2:40 "And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation."
But you do not believe the simple Gospel Message right?

That "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." That is the Truth but you like to add to the word what is not there.
---Nana on 12/8/12


Nana, you said,

"Now you said, "It's not necessary to lie, speak the truth."
..you are stating that I lie at will and that I could "speak the truth" also at will if I so desire."


But your will doesn't want to. you don't desire to tell the Truth. Jesus answered Jews who thought they were free like you:
.."Most assuredly, I say to you, 'whoever commits sin is a slave of sin." (John 8:34). You are not free. Jesus also said:
"Why do you not understand My speech? Because "you are not able to listen to My word" hear this,
"you are of your father the devil, and the "desires" of your father you want to do" (v. 43,44).
---Mark_V. on 12/8/12


12/5/2012 on this blog below you said, "Nana, your works doctrine is showing. You pervert the Truth of the Gospel of Christ to a lie, for the simple reason of arguing, suggesting man can save himself without Christ."

Now you said, "It's not necessary to lie, speak the truth."
Therefore, you are stating that I lie at will and that I could "speak the truth" also at will if I so desire.

Likewise, there is no need for an unbeliever and or a wrong doer to remain so as they could choose to serve God!
That is exactly what is said in Ezekiel 3:18 ", nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life..."

"... though your sins be as scarlet ..."
---Nana on 12/7/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Acne Treatment


The economic and moral decline of this nation (USA) is due to the Democrat Party and its adherance to atheistic marxist philosophy.


---jerry6593 on 12/7/12


Nana, for your information, so that you understand, I'm not God, never claim to be. There is only One God and Savior. I have never saved anyone, only one from a burning house. Not unto salvation from the wrath of God.
I'm a sinner saved by the Grace of God who preaches that God along saves sinners. That man who claim they have a right to save themselves by their suppose free will, are deceived. They can never change their own corrupt hearts, or make themselves alive to Christ, It's the work of God. If God doesn't have mercy on them, they will remain heading to the Great White Throne of Judgment where they will be sentence, they are condemned already and under the curse.
It's not necessary to lie, speak the truth.
Hope you get it right.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/12


Q: Do you believe the economic and moral decline of this nation is due to..

A: There are two voices in the earth.
The voice of faith, encouragement.
And
The voice of doubt, condemnation.

If the people pray but they don't stop condemning and complaining then what good has the prayer been? (Isaiah 58:9)
---jan4378 on 12/6/12


"So, either MarkV is wasting his and everyone else's time because reasoning with someone isn't going to change unbelief to belief, or, MarkV thinks he is God."
---Marc on 12/6/12

Yes indeed.
---Nana on 12/6/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Bad Credit Loans


LindaH, you now said,

"So basically then, MarkV, you think Paul was wrong for what he believed?"

No, Paul was not wrong in what he believed. You were wrong in the interpretation of the message. Paul knew the gospel Truth saves. He preached the same gospel as the other Apostles only to a different group, the Gentiles.
He knew he was not God. Only God saves. Only Jesus saves, for He is not only Man but also God. We don't save anyone, we bring the gospel Truth and God does what He so desires with His Word. He can bring the word in power and the Holy Spirit if He so desires.
---Mark_V. on 12/6/12


No! First of all, There are only a few of us who will actually make it to heaven. Second of all, there isn't enough people that are saved. Speaking of Washington, no one wants to give in. This fiscal cliff. Obama wants everything his way or no way. It's not going to happen.
---pat on 12/5/12


Nana, your works doctrine is showing. You pervert the Truth of the Gospel of Christ to a lie, for the simple reason of arguing, suggesting man can save himself without Christ. It is no wonder the RCC replaced Christ as the Head of the Church.
In the passage in Acts 2:38-40) Peter had just said to them'
"Repent, and let everyone of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." If they didn't there would be no salvation.
Then you say,
"Jesus said "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."" Only His sheep hear His voice and follow Him not the goats.
---Mark_V. on 12/5/12


Acts 2:40 "And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

That is clear enough for me but of course I do not read into any verse what is not there.
"Save yourselves..."
Just like when Jesus said, "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."

You have to go, He will not drag you.
Ok, time for more of your wallowing.
---Nana on 12/4/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Bankruptcy


Nana, hearing has not come to you from God as I can see, and without hearing there is no faith. You are counting on the faith you have in the RCC doctrines, doctrines of man's works. First you crown sinful man a savior because he can save himself if he so desires with his 'free will', and now you crown man saviors because they can save others. I suppose God send billions of saviors. Your emnity against God is showing, wallow on that.
Romans 11:11-13) is not teaching Paul is the Savior of man, those of his flesh, jews, "the gospel he was bringing, the gospel of Christ is what saves." He never saved anyone from the wrath of God, neither have you. He did murder hundreds. But Jesus Christ changed his heart.
Wallow on that.
---Mark_V on 12/4/12


"If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them"---Romans 11:13,14"

Mark_V., 'emulation' has nothing to do with mules.
Some try to confuse the simple message by which so many come to faith, provoke to emulation.
Men hear and see the word in action and in the lives of others and they understand and believe.
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
"Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word"
"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

Ok, your turn to wallow...
---Nana on 12/3/12


So basically then, MarkV, you think Paul was wrong for what he believed?

All I did was give you his words. If you have a problem with them then maybe you also have a problem with the Spirit who led Paul to write what he did. Your argument isnt with me, its with the Holy Spirit.
---LindaH on 12/3/12


LindaH, to your question, you said Paul saved people, and that is not a fact at all. He killed hundreds of people until Christ stopped him. He saved no one. He is not a Savior. The Word of God, the gospel is the one that saves, because it speaks of the grace of God, that He has chosen some and not all to eternal life. And you should be happy if you are one of them. God is the one who saves, in fact if God does not awaken you from your spiritual death, you remain dead to God. But to us who are saved He says,
"But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved "us" even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)" (Eph. 2:4,5).
---Mark_V. on 12/3/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Cash Advance


---Phil on 9/24/12
//The body of Christ is not "His people". In the bible we are citizens of the heavenly realms, and as the messengers [angels KJV] there.//

Phil can you elaborate on this subject? Thanks

//According to scriptures, the people God chose to represent Him is Israel alone.//
Are you referencing Isaiah 43?

1But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name, thou art mine.[...]
[...]12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

Also elaborate...

Thanks
---char on 12/1/12


Marc, you said,

"MarkV: "show me where God said man was free." you answered with:

"Mark 9:23-24, Luke 11:13, John 1:11-13 ("Yet wherever men did accept him he gave them the power to become sons of God." Note logical order!".

The passages you gave have nothing whatsoever to do with a man having a "free" will. In fact the passage in (John 1:11-13) if you read it correctly, you would know that those who received Him, were those "who were already born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, "nor of the will of man," but of God" did you read that? "nor of the will of man" but of God. Note the logical order.
---Mark_V. on 11/19/12


Who BUT only God Almighty can humble the man? Can the man by his own "free-will" humble himself as commanded by God?

Scripture explicitly declares: "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." Romans 3:10,11. And you want to have us believe that the man by his own "free-will" can seek after God?

The world's problem is according to God's will as He has declared so clearly in the Bible or else Paul wouldn't have openly written, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" Romans 1:18
---christan on 11/17/12


The perileous times prophesized for the end times could end if all of mankind would repent as they did in Nineveh.

book, chapter and verse for this idea?

the prophecy of the tribulation is set in motion by God the creator of all, and will happen as the Lord Jesus stated it will, he told his followers he did not know the time only the Father did, and to be counted worthy to escape, nothing in this warning states if all mankind repents God will stop his wrath and Satan will not be let loose for his 2 years of wrath on those who will not follow him when the man of perdition is revealed.
---Follower_of_Christ on 11/17/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Credit Counseling


The great delusion in the end times is when christians who think they are christians, but are not. The more that mankind turns its back on God the more the punishment. People, even christians, tend to blame others (government rulers) and events (natural disaters) rather than themselves for what is happening in the world. God uses these times of adversity hoping that mankind will once again come to Him. The perileous times prophesized for the end times could end if all of mankind would repent as they did in Nineveh.
---Steveng on 11/11/12


People often shock when.I tell them have no friends..here.The reason do not want be caught bad situation,

although it is best to have contact with others it is not good to attend any church for the sake of attending. too many people seek companionship of other people and these people do more harm in their life.

you may be alone without a physical friend you can see yet God is always with you.
---Follower_of_Christ on 11/9/12


People often shock when.I tell them have no friends..here.The reason do not want be caught bad situation, you can not find any ladies here even the church ones they got their cliques and.I do not drink, never have smoked.nothing..
Love to be at home and most women.are married so no friends. Too dangerous just run.all.over. things have changed. People too corrupt in general. Pat makes a good point. I told the Pastor unless they could help me get ride home. I can not go. Evening services.Sign of the times.Friends have stolen from.me..
The world is changing.
we can still pray..
---ELENA on 11/8/12


Dream Big, GOD, a message..I was told to deliver this message to America.God has a master plan for America.Welfare eliminated,our children futures secured with a SocialSecurity reserve bigger then ever.Healthcare,CollegeForAnyone,trust funds,retail discounts.COST TO U.S.GOV.. Zero-nada-zilch..
---bruce on 11/8/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Debt Relief


unbelievers are virtually in control of EVERYTHING!. There will be no unredeemed sinners allow into heaven, because, ultimately you would only wreck heaven like you are doing down here!
---pat on 11/6/12


Trey, I do not believe the moral and ecomomic decline of this nation or any other nation is the fault of God's people. It is the opposite. The decline and moral and economic failures is because of sin. God's children do humble themselves if they are truly saved. The problem is that many are not. Not just in this country but every country, including Israel. The children of God are been change by the Spirit of Christ who lives in them. They were as Scripture declares concerning believers,
"For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works", which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them" (Eph. 2:10).
---Mark_V. on 11/6/12


For any OT scripture to apply to today, it has to apply to ALL, not just America. Can one apply this to China?

What about any Gentile nation with a handful of Christians? Are those Born Again responsible for the moral decline of a Nation, because THEY have not turned from THEIR wicked ways.

This is a lie. You cannot take OT scripture that God Spoke to Israel alone and apply it to any nation today.

The Body of Christ is not WICKED. And the Body of Christ is not held responsible for the sin and evil of any nation they live in.

The only LAND was promised to be healed. The only LAND that belonged to anyone through God was Israel.
---kathr4453 on 11/3/12


---Follower_of_Christ on 9/29/12

Are we saying that this decline started once we got off the gold standard?

If so, i will have to give some support to that idea, for ONE reason: There is a LOT of truth to it
---francis on 9/30/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Debt Settlement


true economic decline started on Jekyll island (1910??)start of Federal reserve, most unaware federal reserve is not government owned or backed by gold, truth is nobody knows if there is any gold in fort knox!!! american government keeps pumping invisible money into the economy (like obama did with 700 billion) that was wasteful, irresponsible, and foolish, america will never recover from the mistakes the dim witted politicians make and all politicians are rogue!!! moral decline is the liberal view of anything and everything goes and making more laws to insure that morals are erased from the minds of americans. prayer of a few cannot override the masses who reject God with blessings of government that operates without him.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/29/12


The moral and econmic decline of this nation is due to liberals telling the future generations that they should be able to do whatever they want with no consequences. They promote (both vocally and through legislation) immoral acts such as same-sex relationships, premarital sex, abortion, extra-marital relations, laziness, and irresponsibility, stealing, racism, and greed.
---Jed on 9/28/12

Let me gently point you to some of the men in THE MORAL MAJORITY:

JIM BAKER
JIM SWARGERT
EDDIE LONG
LEADERS OF PROMISE KEEPERS ( vice president had a woman on the side)
TED HAGGARD
---francis on 9/28/12


The moral and econmic decline of this nation is due to liberals telling the future generations that they should be able to do whatever they want with no consequences. They promote (both vocally and through legislation) immoral acts such as same-sex relationships, premarital sex, abortion, extra-marital relations, laziness, and irresponsibility, stealing, racism, and greed.
---Jed on 9/28/12


Now as to the moral decline. i do not hold any politiician, or party responsible. Morality is an individual choice.

But If I had to lay blame at anyones door post it would be:

JIM BAKER
JIM SWARGERT
EDDIE LONG
LEADERS OF PROMISE KEEPERS ( vice president had a woman on the side)
TED HAGGARD
---francis on 9/28/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Distance Learning


francis, I am really trying to like you,
---trey on 9/27/12

Keep trying I like you already. Your post are always respectful, even if I do not agree with your views.

The very first mistake which G W Bush made was to give away the surplus as an entitlement to the wealthiest Americans.

Under President Clinton, we had enough money in treasury to pay the american debt, albeit the minimum monthy due, and there was a large amount of funds left in reserved. We refered to it as a surplus. President G W Bush, gave it all away to the wealthiest Americans and the Christians in America who voted him in said NOT A WORD.

This was the first assault on the American Economy
---francis on 9/27/12


//it is mainly because we elected G W Bush TWO times,// -francis

no, it was the CFR who chose bush. they selected every president since the early 20th century.

our demise is not because of turning our backs on God for a bad seed cannot produce good fruit no matter how hard it works towards that goal. we have become what we were upon conception.
---aka on 9/27/12


francis, I am really trying to like you, but you keep writing things that make it difficult. (Just kidding)
Actually I have been praying for you lately, and I hope the Lord will give you more light into his word.
George W Bush wasn't my favorite president either, but he sure beats what we have now!
---trey on 9/27/12


No, and I agree with Francis.
---atheist on 9/27/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Education


NO!! it is mainly because we elected G W Bush TWO times, and the Christians saw that he was doing wrong and did not cry out.
---francis on 9/27/12

Lol. And then the real Christians elected Barack Obama right? Lol.
---Jed on 9/27/12


Do you believe the economic and moral decline of this nation is due to the fact that God's people who are called by his name have not humbled themselves, and prayed, and sought after God, and turned from their wicked ways?
---trey on 9/23/12

NO!!

it is mainly because we elected G W Bush TWO times, and the Christians saw that he was doing wrong and did not cry out.
---francis on 9/27/12


it appears the only people experiencing economic decline are those who trust in money,and the only people experiencing moral decline are those who trust in their own understanding...
---kevin5443 on 9/26/12


This promise is to old Israel after the flesh.

It never applied to any other country or people.

America has NEVER been called by God's name.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/24/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Home Equity Loans


If people who claim to follow God and say they accepted Christ still have not turned from their wicked ways its doubtful they are God's children. The true children of God do humble themselves,seek God,and pray that is what being a Christian is about being born again from a fleshly creature who follows the world to a Spiritual,New Creature who loves God and obeys His Word. No I don't believe that the reason you gave is responsible for the economic and moral decline. Sheep know their shepards voice and follow no other,Christians know God's voice and adhere to no other. Who you follow is your master,choose every day who you will follow,be sure its the right one.
---Darlene_1 on 9/24/12


Well, actually, there are people who are humble and obeying God. So-o-o . . . is God going to let the wrong people decide what He does???

It looks to me like there is economic trouble often because of what wrong people have done to their own selves. There are ones who love their own lives . . . maybe while they do nice things for others, but mostly loving their own lives > "He who loves his life will lose it," Jesus says in John 12:25 > "if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" (in Matthew 5:46) Those divorces started before economic decline!
---willie_c: on 9/24/12


Wherever good and free men went to escape oppressive government, evil men followed in their wake.

The solution was given to Noah [Gn 9:5], but this too was designed to fail by God.

In this life, evil will always triumph over good. In one final assault against goodness, the nations rise up unsuccessfully against God [Re 16:16].

It is the unending experience God intends for us to have, until His Son comes back to take His place as King over all. The Lion of Judah will reign on earth.

The body of Christ is not "His people". In the bible we are citizens of the heavenly realms, and as the messengers [angels KJV] there.

According to scriptures, the people God chose to represent Him is Israel alone.
---Phil on 9/24/12


Copyright© 1996-2015 ChristiaNet®. All Rights Reserved.