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Should Christians be politically correct?

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Political correctness is a term denoting a habit of thought and expression which seeks to minimize the offense experienced by people and institutions when confronted by language, ideas, policies, and behavior they perceive as mischaracterising or discriminating against them on the grounds of... religion

Yet another BIBLICAL EXAMPLE:
1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all [men], that I might by all means save some.
---francis on 10/23/12


Political correctness is a term denoting a habit of thought and expression which seeks to minimize the offense experienced by people and institutions when confronted by language, ideas, policies, and behavior they perceive as mischaracterising or discriminating against them on the grounds of... religion...


Here is another example:
1 Corinthians 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake:
1 Corinthians 10:29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience?
1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
---francis on 10/22/12


Francis: Of course we also see the propaganda tactic through political correctness as used by liberals who claim offense when falsely accusing political opponents of racism, misogyny, bigotry, homophobia, etc.

And, presumably the following quotes of Jesus are not PC?

John 8:44
"You are of your father the devil"

Matthew 15:26
"But He answered and said, It is not good to take the childrens bread and throw it to the little dogs."
---Haz27 on 10/21/12


Francis: Normally, PC is acceptable, as long as it does not get in the way of doing what is desirable to God

The only time when it may be necessary not to be PC is when limiting the 'offense' as you put it may force us to do things that will not be desirable to God

I fear that some things that have been done in the US have taken PC a bit too far (some 'new', 'PC-words' have just replaced 'old', 'not-PC words' but as far as I can tell, it is just replacing an old word with a new one, and a person may use the OLD word and mean it well,or may use the 'new' word but actually mean it badly. And the people we speak to quickly learn if we speak to them in a good way - they soon know that the word means little
---James on 10/20/12


Political correctness is a term denoting a habit of thought and expression which seeks to minimize the offense experienced by people and institutions when confronted by language, ideas, policies, and behavior they perceive as mischaracterising or discriminating against them on the grounds of... religion...

Here is ANOTHER example:
Acts 17:22 I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.

Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you

Paul does not offend them, but rather meets them where they are, and explain to them who this unknown God is
---francis on 10/20/12




Political correctness is a term denoting a habit of thought and expression which seeks to minimize the offense experienced by people and institutions when confronted by language, ideas, policies, and behavior they perceive as mischaracterising or discriminating against them on the grounds of... religion...

So best biblical example:
2 Kings 5:18 In this thing the LORD pardon thy servant, [that] when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon thy servant in this thing.

He worships God but will NOT offend the king, but rather respect the king, in the kings religion
---francis on 10/20/12


jerry6593. I agree that affirmative action and voting for someone because of skin color ( as we saw for those voting for Obama) is being racially prejudiced.

I agree with Francis in that he has a different definition of PC. His definition differs from what is commonly accepted as he is trying to justify his cherished liberal values whilst somehow maintaining his claim to follow Christian values.
These are incompatible, but liberals fail to see this, being blinded by their political loyalties.
---Haz27 on 10/20/12


---jerry6593 on 10/20/12

We have very different diffinitions of PC.

Look at my examples, do you see any indication that Naaman was breaking any of the ten commandments by His actions? DO you see any indication that Nehemiah was breaking any laws of God by being the king's cup bearer, knowing what may have been in the cup?
---francis on 10/20/12


Francis: It's hard to believe that I am agreeing with Haz rather than you, but that is the case. Your Liberal friends have apparently influenced you to the point that you would color Bible truths to accomodate the Liberal agenda.

PC is lying, and as such is a transgression of the Ten Commandments which we SDA's uphold. Affirmative action is racism, as is voting for someone because of skin color.

Was Christ PC when he called the Pharisees "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers" and "whited sepulchres"? No, not at all. Whom shall we emulate? Christ or Liberals?


---jerry6593 on 10/20/12


Christians should not be politically correct.

To be PC is to support the prejudices/discrimination, bigotry, deceit, hypocrisy and murder, etc that the religion of Humanism declares is correct.

Remember, we're aliens here and our authority is God.
---Haz27 on 10/17/12




>---jerry6593 on 10/17/12

Daniel did not hold the same position as Naaman.
Naamans position demanded he protect the king, and be able to physically cupport the king.

Now while Daniel refused the kings drink, Nehemiah was his cupbearer.
---francis on 10/17/12


Jesus said whoever denies Him in front of man, He will deny in front of His Father. Go ahead and compromise your faith for political correctness. I'm not going to. Jesus is the only defense I will have on judgement day, and I surely can't afford to have Him deny me in front of His Father.
---Jed on 10/17/12


"Hag 2:8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.

What does that leave for Caesar?"
jerry6593 on 10/16/12

Mark 12:1_17 "And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's.
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him."
...
---Nana on 10/17/12


Francis: I cannot imagine a weaker argument for PC than that which you've given. If you're looking for an example of how God's people should relate to the king in the presence of false gods, just look at Daniel and his three friends. THEY REFUSED TO BOW IN THE PRESENCE OF A FALSE GOD! Daniel refused to change his worship for PC.

PC is lying! Why do you defend it so?


---jerry6593 on 10/17/12


True Christians are suppose to stay in prayer, obedience. Do the work that God has assigned to you. That's it. No more, No less.
---pat on 10/16/12


---jerry6593 on 10/16/12

I see it as him showing respect to the king, and not to the king's God. It is his duty to give phyeical support to the king.

Same as Nehemiah being the king's cup bearer

2 Kings 5:17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the LORD.

2 Kings 5:18 In this thing the LORD pardon thy servant, [that] when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon thy servant in this thing.
---francis on 10/16/12


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Francis: "What do you think about this?
How does this fit into politiclly corectness?"

I think it is a good example of how a heathen (Naaman the Syrian) showns respect to a false god (Rimmon). It may well typify today's political liberals as heathens worshipping false gods.


Job 32:21 Let me not, I pray you, accept any man's person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man.
Job 32:22 For I know not to give flattering titles, in so doing my maker would soon take me away.



Rod: Hag 2:8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.

What does that leave for Caesar?


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---jerry6593 on 10/16/12


Zechariah 8:16 - THERE are the things that ye shall do: Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbor: execute judgment of truth and peace n your gates.

---RichardC on 10/15/12


Yes, "...render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.
---Rod4Him on 10/15/12


The biggest problem with politcal correctness is that the very people who demand it from others are the same people who refuse to use it themselves. Like when liberals called Newt Gingrich racist for calling Obama the welfare president (still not sure how that is racist), yet they are the same ones who call pro-lifers terrorists and mock Christianity is the most disgusting and perverted ways.
---Jed on 10/15/12


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---jerry6593 on 10/15/12
What do you think about this?
How does this fit into politiclly corectness?

2 Kings 5:17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the LORD.

2 Kings 5:18 In this thing the LORD pardon thy servant, [that] when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon thy servant in this thing.

2 Kings 5:19 And he said unto him, Go in peace. So he departed from him a little way.
---francis on 10/15/12


Francis: Political correctness is the opposite of freedom of speech. It attempts to "MAKE A MAN AN OFFENDER FOR A WORD" just as Isa 29:20 says.


---jerry6593 on 10/15/12


Jerry, there is nothing to argue about concerning E.G. White. She got hit in the head with a rock, was in a coma for five years, and afterwards had visions and dreams. No different then Muhammah's dreams and vision, or Joseph Smith, or Charles Russell's. With one exception, none got hit in the head or were in a coma for five years, that I heard of.
I have twelth volumns of her material. All those people are self-proclaim prophets. What else is new? In the future we will have more of them. All disagreeing with something in the Word of God and making their own religions and many foolish people following their teachings. That has been going on since the apostolic Church at Pentacost.
---Mark_V. on 10/15/12


---jerry6593 on 10/14/12
Not sure how isaiah 29:19-20 fits into politically corerectness.

Politically correctlness to me is statesmanship: 1 Kings 3:7 And now, O LORD my God, thou hast made thy servant king instead of David my father: and I am but a little child: I know not how to go out or come in.

Politically correct is very differnt from participating in sin.

Nehemiah 1:11 For I was the king's cupbearer.

What exactly was in the King's cup? But yet Nehemiah was the cup bearer. This is another example of politically cortrectness
---francis on 10/14/12


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Francis: The following quote is the best example of how God feels about those who use political correctness as a weapon.

Isa 29:20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
Isa 29:21 THAT MAKE A MAN AN OFFENDER FOR A WORD, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.


---jerry6593 on 10/14/12


This to me is one example of what it means to be politically correct

2 Kings 5:17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the LORD.

2 Kings 5:18 In this thing the LORD pardon thy servant, [that] when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon thy servant in this thing.

2 Kings 5:19 And he said unto him, Go in peace. So he departed from him a little way.

Naaman has a job to do, without offending the king
---francis on 10/13/12


MarkV: Boy, that's reaching for something to argue about. The quote was germane to the subject of speaking the truth regardless of political correctness. If you'd like some of her statements concerning God, why don't you ask your SDA neighbors (You DO love thy neighbor, don't you?) or go to an SDA website. Or maybe you just like to argue.


---jerry6593 on 10/13/12


Jerry, I did not see one word concerning God and what He is doing in peoples lives in E.G. Whites statement. All Ellen White talked about was mens works. And how great they can be. Anyone can call sin sin. Even unbelievers know that you sin just like everyone else. If you are going to quote something, at least find something that Includes what the Lord is doing in the lives of believers. The glory is to God, not to man.
---Mark_V. on 10/12/12


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"The greatest want of the world is the want of men - men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall." - Ellen G. White



---jerry6593 on 10/11/12


A Christian should always be tactful, but honest. Being politically correct sometimes requires dis-honesty or non-trust. For example: to be politically correct you can't say Christ is the only way to obtain eternal life, but you should say "all roads lead to heaven", which is wrong but politically correct
---wivv on 10/9/12


Sis. Trish, let me clear something, of those who are worthy. As believers we don't know who is worthy because we cannot see their hearts. Only those whom are quicken by the Spirit are worthy to hear the gospel Truth. Jesus commanded His disciples to go, heal the sick, and much more. And told them:
" Now whatever city or town you enter, inquire who in it is worthy, and stay there till you go out" (Matt. 10:11). Those who reject the gospel message are not worthy. They will persecute them or run them out of town. Jesus tells them to shake off the dust from their feet. and
"Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gommorah in the day of judgment than for that city."
---Mark_V. on 9/27/12


Trish, I believe you took what Jed said the wrong way. He is right. Any time we tell the Truth to others concerning sin, it is always offensive to them. It is not your intention to be offensive, but the Truth convicts others. Unless you are speaking to a Christian, whatever you say to another will be offensive. The Truth is a sword which cuts the heart. I spoken of Christ to a group of people at work, how He came to die for our sins, and they get up and leave. They just don't want to hear it. That is what I believe Jed was saying. I know you are not offensive, but what you say is offensive to those who hear you who are not saved. The gospel can bring them to repentance, or they can get mad and leave. Those who leave are not worthy of the gospel.
---Mark_V. on 9/26/12


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Second Attempt: It is possible to share the Truth of sin with people in a way that it is nonoffensive. I can say that I believe a behavior is sin, and at the same time say that I am a sinner too. I also share at that time that that is why I am grateful that Jesus came to earth to die for my sins. If it is my family, like my bisexual son who lives with his girlfriend, I told him once what I believe. I also told him that I love him, but more importantly Jesus loves him.

You do not have to be offensive when telling people that certain behavior is sin. It's a perfect opportunity to tell people why Christ had to die.
---Trish on 9/26/12


there are those who live and preach the gospel of Jesus, there are those who live and preach facism.
Jesus said there would be goats in the sheep pen,and HE will sort them out in the end :D
---kevin5443 on 9/26/12


to be politically correct would mean you bow down to government and will do and say anything to defend your government even if policies go against Christianity. Tolerance is calling evil good. If you are calling evil good to support your government then you have two masters. One is your government that you defend at all costs including the cost of your religious beliefs and the other would be professing the Lord. The Lord Jesus stated why call me Lord if you will not do as I say. If you are calling evil good it is government that is your master. Political correctness is a worldly idea it is not from God.
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/24/12


Trish, just so long as you're not compromising the truth in order to be loving and empathetic. That is what political correctness is. And that is most definately wrong. In most cases the truth hurts bad. If it doesn't offend someone then your probably not telling the whole truth. You're probably holding some of the truth back to avoid offense, which means you're not being completely honest, which means you're lying. You can't tell the truth and please everyone at the same time. Because for one person to be right another person has to be wrong. Simple logic. Remaining silent isn't a biblical option either. So basically, if you're not offending someone, your probably not being completely honest.
---Jed on 9/24/12


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There are two ways to speak the truth to people. One is with Christian love and empathy. The other is with arrogance and judgmentalism. Unfortunately, I have seen too many believers do the latter, when Jesus commanded the former.
---Trish on 9/24/12


Trey, I believe that Jed is correct. We should never compromise the Truth just because someone gets their feelings hurt. We cannot control the feelings of others, only they can control their own feelings. We are responsible for bringing the Truth as we know it and of course many get mad and that is something we cannot control. The Truth should never be compromised for a lie.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/12


I've told the truth about many things on here, and people resent it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/23/12


No, Christians should not be politically correct. Christians should always tell the truth, unashamedly and unabashedly. Being politically correct means that you hold the truth back (lying) in order to avoid offending someone. Not biblical at all. Always tell the truth, no matter who it offends. And always call things exactly how they are.
---Jed on 9/23/12


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hould Christians be politically correct?
---trey on 9/23/12

YES, here is a biblical example:


2 Kings 5:17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules' burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the LORD.

2 Kings 5:18 In this thing the LORD pardon thy servant, [that] when my master goeth into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leaneth on my hand, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon: when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon thy servant in this thing.

2 Kings 5:19 And he said unto him, Go in peace. So he departed from him a little way.
---francis on 9/23/12


Trey: In what context?
---Trish on 9/23/12


Every word refers to a CONCEPT/idea....the nitpicky/prudish "POLITICALLY correct" term means to view ALL PEOPLE that share a common characteristic as one 'political group' instead of being INDIVIDUALS (unique human beings),...

....but realistically, many people like to 'get offended' and 'play the victim' (just part of human nature).

Human nature is that most people like to become defensive about whatever is being said so that they can 'be pitied',....

...so for the sake of peace, be polite when and if a person is polite to you (but not TOO POLITE or else they will use you as a DOORMAT)...remain sovereign and independent.

"lover of goodness, master of himself" (Titus 1:8).
---more_excellent_way on 9/23/12


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