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Build Churches Or Feed Poor

Does Jesus prefer that churches spend money on making their buildings more elaborate, or feeding the hungry, or split the funds between both?

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1 Corinthians 13:3 AND though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, I give my body to be burned, and have not: Charity, I am nothing.

{ Charity - Here: I have to Check, but I think it has to do with bring the Gospel,-)
---RICHARDC on 10/16/12


Hello,to RitaH. you are exactly,right I agree 100% all the glitz,bling,over the top,alot of what I have seen in churches ,people also,not humble and kind to the needy,not like they don't realize it could hallen to anyone. A couple I know good people, she was airline stewardess and her husband computer tech. Now,they both out of work and they are struggling,she helps out at a. big church they get food once a month.
---ELENA on 10/14/12


Some of these elaborate church buildings must make Christ weep. It is nice to be comfortable in church, it is easier to concentrate on the sermon if we are not cold, not sitting in a draught, not on hard wooden pew but on a comfortable seat but anything beyond that is unnecessary. We go to church to meet the King of Kings but we also meet Him in our own homes which might be quite simple or even austere. God does not need the palaces which some churches are and I'm sure He prefers us to feed the hungry - those who try to help themselves yet are still in need. The bible also says that if man wants to eat he should work. We should bear that in mind when choosing who to help and also remember that some cannot work but some will not work.
---Rita_H on 10/14/12


Well, Peter, rest yourself assured, that once the Great Tribulation starts, those Saints who are LEFT BEHIND will no longer be congregating in elaborate Church buildings. The assembling will be done underground, in caves, wherever it can be held out of the NWO's All-Seeing-Eye's sight.
---Gordon on 10/10/12


In Biblical time the Church had no building, so that did not take any money. The 'overseers' might have received some money, but I don't think it's mentioned. So the church didn't have much cost.

Yes, we LIKE going to a nice church, but DO WE NEED TO??????

Answer- obvious!!!!!
---Peter on 10/9/12




Shira4638, One way of feeding the poor is to send a monetary Offering to, like, a local Rescue Mission. Or, another Mission or Ministry from another town or State that does these things. Most preferably a Christian Ministry as they would more than likely doing their work directly for the LORD on behalf of the souls involved. "Care Net" Ministry is good for rescuing babies from Abortion. Sending money is a big help to these places that, when provided with the Support, have the facilities all set up and ready for ministering.
---Gordon on 10/9/12


christ went out & preached the gospel & DID not charge the poor people for preaching the gospel. why is it called sunday SERVICE. service is something you pay for but the gospel should be free. finally for every dollar you give more than 60% goes to ADMINISTRATIVE expense - salaries for those who preach the gospel & 10% goes to missions & helping the poor. even the CEOs of so called NON PROFIT org. are paid 100s of thousands of $$$$. what a scam. and many believers continue to 'obey' in the name of guilt, shame, blame
---mike on 10/9/12


We are told to feed the poor but how do we know who is poor.i was raised very poor but my mom and a spotless house and made all our clothes. We ate dried beans, dried peas and cornbread and other foods that didn't cost much to eat. Of course times have changed and I don't want to feed anyone who is lazy.some people just sit back and wait for a government handout.
---shira4368 on 10/9/12


I believe that GOD wants the Church to take care of the poor, naked, hungry, homeless, orphans and widows. Also, primarily be concerned about soul-Salvation, without leaving the former undone. But, it is true that the LORD wants to provide a well kept meeting place for HIS people, (if they don't choose to gather in private homes, that is.) Yes, He does expect that that the Church have a decent facility, but, not at the expense of the welfare of fellow human beings. There are some Churches who invest way more than enough of the Church Funds on a building that is way more extravagant than necessary. Waste of money.
---Gordon on 10/9/12


"The word church comes from the Greek word ekklesia which is defined as an assembly or called-out ones. The root meaning of church is not that of a building, but of people. It is ironic that when you ask people what church they attend, they usually identify a building. Romans 16:5 says greet the church that is in their house. Paul refers to the church in their housenot a church building, but a body of believers."
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---Nana on 10/9/12




Hello,aka sure,you are correct,when we lived in N.Y.C. , we used to go at least 3 churches a week because really needed the food .and we went to a catholic,Pentecosts and. We went to a mission they were very nice to me. I had a job,but still couldn't make it. Lot good friends, had in N,Y.C.
---ELENA on 10/8/12


trey, the body of christ, the church, is not a man-made organization like denominational "churches". you are correct...church is a misnomer. we have to separate the church that is organized by God from the church building organized by man.
---aka on 10/8/12


People like to meet in buildings. this why the mall and stores are inside.
I go to a large church approx 10,000 people at one campus. There is not a building big enough to hold this many people thus it was neccesary to build a bigger building at approx 25 million dollars. befor the move we were at 6 services. The point is after building it pastor said that if the building got in the way of God he will burn it down himself. The Israelites did with the temple. The temple was awesome covered in gold but they forgot God in the things of God. This is the evil of rituals and forgetting growing things change.
---Scott1 on 10/8/12


My church has two food banks where food is given to families. We invite the families to attend a Thanksgiving service, and after the service each family is given a laundry basket with all the fixings needed to prepare a Thanksgiving dinner, including the turkey. Last year, we gave out 150 baskets to families in our area. At Christmas, the church helps purchase books and clothes for the children ages 12 and under. The older kids are given scholarships to go on our weekend youth retreats in the winter. Then, in August, we prepare backpacks full of school supplies for all the school age kids that are in the families coming to the food banks.
---Trish on 10/8/12


Cluny, my question is this, "What is the purpose of the Church?"
Is it the church's responsibility to feed and cloth the poor?
Please do not get me wrong, as a believer I believe that we are to look after the widows and orphans, but is that the responsibility of the church or should that be handled outside of the church by the believers through other organizations?
---trey on 10/8/12


elena, not only that. at that point in jesus' ministry, we have to think that most of them were non and unbelievers. when i was lost, i attended church functions just to get a home cooked meal.
---aka on 10/8/12


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you do not need a church building to feed people. you need the building to STORE food to be able to feed people.

Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house,

Deuteronomy 14:28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay [it] up within thy gates:

Deuteronomy 14:29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which [are] within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied, that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.
---francis on 10/8/12


This came to my mind,(god must have give to me) on the mountain side,JESUS went up Mt.15:29-38
Here he preached,healed,people got free food to eat about 4,000 people.
No.mention,of church building.
---ELENA on 10/7/12


AHello, family,I found Mt. 19:24 JESUS said if you want to be perfect give all your possetions to the poor. So,I believe the lord cares about people more,in the first.when they meet for have church,they did not have a church building,they meet in homes. We saw all this in movies they had in church,where si, I used to attend.love of JESUS.
---ELENA on 10/7/12


Luke 4:25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land,

Luke 4:26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.( AN UNBELIEVER NON-JEW)

Luke 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet, and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian. ( UNBELIEVER NON-JEW)

2 Chronicles 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you, take heed and do [it]: for [there is] no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.
---francis on 10/7/12


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\\You will always have the poor "among" you, or "with" you
---James_L on 10/6/12\\

Which means we are always to do something to help them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/7/12


Some of the expressions and attitudes shown here remind me of this:
Matthew 24:12 "And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold."
---Nana on 10/7/12


All worldly denominational churches (dchurch) are a creation of Satan.

Satan has succeeded into dividing the "christians" up into their own cults each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible.

The meaning of "church" is a lot different today than it was 2,000 years ago. The dchurch is nothing but a building having assets (This is confirmed when you hear, "Did you go to church today?" "I didn't see you at church today.") and is owned by the government (IRS: "you do what we tell you or we'll revoke your nonprofit status.").

The true church is people - who believe. Fellowship is anywhere two or more are gathered in Jesus' name.
---Steveng on 10/7/12


There is nothing in scripture about feeding poor unbelievers, or taking care of their orphans, etc.
---James_L on 10/6/12
Leviticus 19:10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard, thou shalt leave them for the poor and STRANGER:

Deuteronomy 10:18 He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the STRANGER, in giving him food and raiment.

There are just two many verse that talk about love and feeding the stranger/ unbeliever
---francis on 10/7/12


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James: The Second Great Commandment states that we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. Jesus told the Parable of the Good Samaritan in an attempt to teach us who our neighbor is. How is it we are supposed to love everyone, but not feed the poor unbeliever??? Your insistence that we only provide food for the poor believers, and ignore the unbelievers
---Trish on 10/7/12


\\James, I think you are mistaken. God did not differentiate.\\
---NurseRobert on 10/6/12


\\In the OT, when it says, "Defend the orphan, plead for the widow," it clearly makes no distinction.\\
---Cluny on 10/6/12


The overwhelming testimony of scripture is that we are to care for our own.

Neighbor, countryman, kinsman, etc in OT

brother, saints, neighbor, etc in NT

scripture doesn't have to specify in every instance, for they were written to people who had already been taught verbally.

You will always have the poor "among" you, or "with" you
---James_L on 10/6/12


\\There is nothing in scripture about feeding poor unbelievers, or taking care of their orphans, etc.\\

In the OT, when it says, "Defend the orphan, plead for the widow," it clearly makes no distinction.

And not all of the people Jesus fed were believers.

Remember, Our Lord says that the Father sends down rain upon the just and the unjust as well.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/6/12


He does not want "feel-good" ministries witch are just helping people to live their own selfish lives and feel accepted while they keep on sinning.

God has enough so we can have buildings and help needy people. Most of all is He wants love. I think personal ministering is needed . . . not just giving people a handout, but spending time with people, in order to bring them into our family sharing with our Father . . . so we are ready for the love relating that we will have in the resurrection with our Groom. Have now all we will be sharing then, so we are ready.
---willie_c: on 10/6/12


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James L., Matthew 5:44-46 tells us to be kind to our enemies as God causes sunshine and rain for the just and unjust. Every human is God's created child, and if we neglect unbelievers we miss the chance to draw them toward God. Don't say to anyone I'll feed you only if you are a Christian.
---Geraldine on 10/6/12


Francis, in context, i do not see what 2 Samuel 7:2 has to do with this.
---aka on 10/6/12
2 Samuel 7:2 That the king said unto Nathan the prophet, See now, I dwell in an house of cedar, but the ark of God dwelleth within curtains.

Haggai 1:2 Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, This people say, The time is not come, the time that the LORD'S house should be built.

Haggai 1:4 Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your cieled houses, and this house lie waste?

Haggai 1:8 Go up to the mountain, and bring wood, and build the house, and I will take pleasure in it, and I will be glorified, saith the LORD.

Read the blog question, read my texts go back and read my response
Do you see it now?
---francis on 10/6/12


Geraldine, where in scriptures is the church instructed to feed the poor? Please do not take me wrong. I believe we are to help our fellow brothers and sisters, but these things should be seperate.

The church is for spiritual food. The church is to be a place of worship, and a house of prayer, not a soup kitchen.

God's people are to good works, but I've never read where the Lord instructed the Apostles to go and build a shelter or a soup kitchen for the poor.
---trey on 10/6/12


James, I think you are mistaken. God did not differentiate.

If you offer your food to the hungry and satisfy the needs of the afflicted, then your light shall rise in the darkness and your gloom be like the noonday.
Isaiah 58:10

Happy are those who are concerned for the poor, the Lord will help them when they are in trouble.
Psalm 41:1

If you refuse to listen to the cry of the poor, your own cry will not be heard.
Proverbs 21:13

God always keeps His promises, he judges in favor of the oppressed and gives food to the hungry.
Psalm 146:6
---NurseRobert on 10/6/12


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Whenever the bible speaks of feeding the poor, taking care of orphans and widows, etc, it means the poor "Among Believers"

There is nothing in scripture about feeding poor unbelievers, or taking care of their orphans, etc.

Paul collected offerings for the poor SAINTS in Jerusalem. And in the scripture francis quoted, it says THY BROTHER adn IN THY LAND


We are to care for each other, not to take on the plight of the world.


Peter and John were approached by a beggar in Acts 3. Peter said "I do not possess silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you, in the Name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene - walk"
---James_L on 10/6/12


francis, in context, i do not see what 2 Samuel 7:2 has to do with this.

jesus said beware of some because they may look good on the outside, but inside they are rotten and like ravenous wolves.

cluny, the woman poured the ointment over his head. and, it wasn't only Judas who spoke against her. but, her lavishness was not on a building, it was on Christ himself. i think that says that you can show any good works (grandiose buildings) but if you don't recognize the Christ, it won't matter.

with John_13:34 in mind, between feeding the poor or building elaborate buildings (which the poor cannot get to or are welcomed), which is more appropriate?

jesus addressed the poor on a hillside.
---aka on 10/6/12


"Does Jesus prefer that churches spend money on making their buildings more elaborate, or feeding the hungry, or split the funds between both?"

Was that Christ's injunction to His disciples before He ascended into the clouds? Let's see, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matthew 28:19,20. NOPE.

But helping and feeding the poor is the duty of every human being who's bless with more by God, not a pre-requisite to salvation.
---christan on 10/5/12


Cluny, glad you mentioned the woman and the precious ointment, from Mark 14. This ointment was symbolic of being broken and spilled out for Jesus, as Jesus' precious blood was shortly to be broken and spilled out for us. It is hard for me to compare building a fancy church today as the same kind of dedication, but I may be short sighted. Jesus said "the poor are always with you, (in body) but not I".
---Geraldine on 10/5/12


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Does Jesus prefer that churches spend money on making their buildings more elaborate, or feeding the hungry, or split the funds between both?
---Geraldine on 10/5/12

BOTH

The way our worship building looks, tells a lot about the God whom we worship:

2 Samuel 7:2 the king said unto Nathan the prophet, See now, I dwell in an house of cedar, but the ark of God dwelleth within curtains.

And in these glorious building, we must feed the poor


Deuteronomy 15:11 For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
---francis on 10/5/12


Remember when the woman anointed Jesus's feet with very expensive ointment--worth 300 day's wages?

Judas thought it was a waste and would have better been spent on the poor.

Think about it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/5/12


What does the Bible say?
---Trish on 10/5/12


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