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For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

Tell me do you think you developed your faith on your own?
Did God not come to you first, love you first?

Please remember, Warwick.
Evidence is only considered evidence, until you consider it proof!
I hear you! Do you hear me?
God bless you, Warwick
Peace
---TheSeg on 10/27/12


Seq, I trust you understand neither belief can be proved by the scientific method. However we need to consider evidence,such as you mentioned. If absolute proof existed faith is unnecessary, and God demands faith.

By faith Abraham set out not knowing where he was going. "Without faith it is impossible to please God" Hebrews 11:6. It isn't blind faith as Romans 1:20 attests. God says He is so obvious in what He has created that those who ignore Him "are without excuse."

People in the west have long been indoctrinated into naturalism which says there is no God, nor any need of God. However those who seek will find an abundance of solid evidence which when powered by faith is proof positive.
---Warwick on 10/27/12


Your right Warwick, if only Christ would have left something here physical.
Something a team of highly qualified experts could scrutinize with every means at their disposal.
The scientific method!

Something like, an image of a man who appears to have suffered physical trauma in a manner consistent with crucifixion. But make the image something that cannot be duplicated.
And link it back to the first century the time of Christ.
Better yet, right to the burial chamber itself!

Maybe then it would be proof positive.
It just too bad nothing like that exists in the world today does it!
Anyway, I'm sure if it did exist, some would say so!
And some as always, would be in fear of the ridicule that would ensue!
---TheSeg on 10/26/12


Is this what Darwin believed?Do you? Maybe God (YA) dosen't want you to! Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.
---J_Marc on 10/26/12


Atheist, even evolution believing scientists admit that evolution is a theory that has not been proven.
---Jed on 10/26/12




Seq, the proof I wrote about is proof via the scientific method, as I explained. This means something has to be tested in the present, while observed, and must be repeatable. We cannot prove the Bible this way as it happened in the past. We cannot ask God to create again so it can be observed, and observed again. Neither can the evolutionary hypothesis be tested by the scientific method. Therefore they are both belief systems. However I believe the available evidence strongly supports Biblical Creation not evolution. If you read the Bible cover to cover you will see it is confirmed as true by what we see around us, as God says in Romans 1:20.
---Warwick on 10/26/12


Sorry atheist, this not clear to you?
Every spirit that confesses NOT, that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
This is that spirit of antichrist!
Did you think this was about you?

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


I want to be clear with you atheist, and try to understand this.
Why don't you stop believing and look for truth yourself!
Peace Bro!
---TheSeg on 10/25/12


TheSeq,

Who is "they?"
---atheist on 10/25/12


As I see it, Warwick.
All they can do is deny Christ, came in the flesh.
This is to be expected!

1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already is it in the world.

Now, if they really want to find proof of Christ coming in the flesh.
All they have to do is open there eyes!
Because, just as there is proof of God.
There is also proof of the man called Jesus Christ, the son of God!

There is proof!
Joh_14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Peace
---TheSeg on 10/25/12


"the theory of evolution cannot be proved or disproved by the scientific method it is in fact not even a theory, scientifically speaking, but an hypothesis"
---Warwick on 10/25/12

I agree. Evolution is merely a hypothesis at best, and a very flimsy, dubious one at that.

"the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it has been applied, will be one of the great JOKES in the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so very FLIMSY and DUBIOUS an hypothesis could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it has" Malcolm Muggeridge (British philosopher)
---Haz27 on 10/25/12




And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

Forgive me
However we do not say this can be proved, or disproved via the scientific method.
Warwick on 10/25/12

The Old Testament is 400 years older than the New Testament, this is a fact!
There are things written in the Old Testament that could not be proven at the time.
I refer to the lord, Jesus Christ. The Old Testament speaks specially about a man, who God will send.

This man, who calls himself Christ, came and fulfilled the things written about him in the Old Testament.
There were over 360 prophecies foretold about the coming Jewish Messiah.
Is this not proof?

Peace
---TheSeg on 10/25/12


StrongAxe, what you surmise is incorrect. I, like Jerry and numerous others, are convinced the Bible is absolute truth. However we do not say this can be proved, or disproved via the scientific method, as Atheist falsely claimed. Some say evolution has been scientifically proved. Atheist claims it is fact i.e. proven when in fact it also cannot be proved or disproved by the scientific method. It is therefore a belief system, as is Biblical Creation. Because the theory of evolution cannot be proved or disproved by the scientific method it is in fact not even a theory, scientifically speaking, but an hypothesis.
---Warwick on 10/25/12


There are some people who seem to be called to be disobendient. Eph 2:2 "...according to the Spirit that works in the children of disobedience" Eph 5:6 "...the wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience:". According to these verses, there are certain people that will never listen to God, the Holy Spirit, or Christ in any way. Sadly, God (Ya) has willed that they cannot and never will listen, hear, or repent. Yet, to the glory of God, some have and may still.
---JMarc on 10/25/12


StrongAxe, unlike Bob's book the Bible has been around for millenia. It was around in my father's time, his fathers, his great great grandfathers....... And has stood the test of time, over and over proving Sceptics wrong. Further it can be verified. Genesis says Eve was made from bone from Adam's side. Now, which is the only bone in the human body which regrows if removed? You got it, the rib! This isn't speculation or faith driven hope but verifiable medical fact. Scripture also says air has weight, that the earth is round, and hangs in space suspended upon nothing. All stated before man discovered these things. Such truths build a powerful case for its authenticity. What verifiable truth can we get from Bob's book?
---Warwick on 10/25/12


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Axey: The Bible is indeed maligned and scrutinized, but NOT by REAL Christians. There are plenty of non-Christians who malign God's Word, so why does a half-baked Christian like you have to join them. Why not scrutinize the Atheist's creation theory? You could start by helping him find JUST ONE FACT in support of this childish fantasy called Evolution.



Samuelbb7: Good for you. I was once on the other side as well - until I began to scrutinize the "scientific" foundation of Evolution.

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---jerry6593 on 10/25/12


I first believe the Bible was false and evolution true.

After two years of study I realized I had it backwards.

Thirty years latter I am still glad that as I continue to read and learn the bible is true and evolution is false. Evolution starts with the faith that nonliving matter can come to life. They just do not know how.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/24/12


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jerry6593:

The Bible is maligned and scrutinized, but NOT by Christians who believe every word infallibly is penned directly by God.

If one applies rigorous scrutiny to scientific theories to attempt to discredit the beliefs of those who hold them, is it not only fair for others to hold ones own beliefs in the Bible to the same level of scrutiny?

Warwick:

God's Word claims it's the truth, but how is that helpful? For those who already believe it, it's superfluous - and for those who don't believe, it proves nothing. If I handed you a book called "The Book of Bob" and on the first page it said "Everything in the Book of Bob is true and infallible", would you belive it on its own say-so? I think not.
---StrongAxe on 10/24/12


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Axey: "I think most Christians who apply a certain degree of scrutiny (hence, possibility of verifiablity and falsifiability) towards scientific theories like evolution would not dare apply the same scandards of scrutiny towards the Bible itself."

What? Whose side are you on? The Bible is the most maligned and scrutinized book on the planet - yet it still stands as an immovable pillar of truth. If only half-Christians like yourself would apply the same scrutiny to "scientific theories" as you do to the Bible then these silly theories would be universally ridiculed as the Bible is now.

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---jerry6593 on 10/24/12


Evolution was formed in the mind of man,think how many times men have been wrong. Only the word of God bringing forth life where there was none is a fact.
---Darlene_1 on 10/23/12


NO
EVOLUTION IS NOT TRUE.
GOD IS THE CREATOR OF THE WORLD. HE AND ONLY HIM.
NO EVULOTION
JAN
---Jan_Stefansson on 10/23/12


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Atheists claim scientists do not believe in Genesis creation-wrong.

Creation magazine interviews at least 1 such scientist each issue. One example is Dr Ian Macreadie highly respected research scientist-Molecular Biologist and Microbiologist at Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO). Also Dr Gina Mohammed, a scientist with more than 25 years research experience, author of dozens of scientific papers. Dr John Sandford, Genetecist co-inventor of the 'gene gun.' Also Dr Raymond Damadian inventor of the Magnetic Resonance Imaging diagnostic tool. All scientists all Creation believing Christians. Just what atheists would have us believe do not exist.

I have a list of hundreds of others.
---Warwick on 10/23/12


God bless you all. But man.
I remember talking to my wife and showing her an empty box.
I then covered it, gave it to her and told her to give me something out of the box.

I mean right away! She said in a loud voice "THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"
I said "there you go, it is, isn't it!"
Now are you men telling me, it's NOT IMPOSSIBLE!

Neither is verifiable with the evidence at hand.
Haz27

I have two hands the right one and the other!
Mat_21:25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men?
Mat_21:27 And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.
---TheSeg on 10/22/12


StrongAxe, Scripture is not truth because any falible, sinful man should say so. It is Truth because it is God's word. Neither Adam nor Moses need to have been witnesses for God to tell them the truth.

You appear to be saying we can only trust what man sees.
---Warwick on 10/22/12


Both evolution and creation are faith beliefs. Neither is verifiable with the evidence at hand.
Haz27 on 10/21/12
Does everybody here feel this way?

Wow, atheist. Well, I'll be a monkey uncle!
I didn't know that!
---TheSeg on 10/21/12


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StrongAxe. It's the evolutionists who are claiming their theory is fact. Christians don't make such claims. Ours is a faith position.

Both evolution and creation are faith beliefs. Neither is verifiable with the evidence at hand.

But we do know that spontaneous generation was scientifically disproved years ago. This knocks out the foundations for evolution.
---Haz27 on 10/21/12


Hey come on, give atheist a brake, already!
It's not his fault, he believes, what he believes.
After all his great, great, great, grandfather was a monkey.
And with atheist its monkey see, monkey do!

Please forgive me, atheist!
It's was an ape, right?

Oh, I'm sorry exactly what are the facts here?
Was he a monkey or ape?

And I'm not trying to make fun of atheist.
He doing it all by himself, I know it was Adam and Eve.

But, he doesn't believe us, he think it was gorillas!
This is what you believe, right atheist!
Your ancestors were gorillas!

Don't worry, atheist. I got your back!
Why, the fact is your living proof!
Peace
---TheSeg on 10/21/12


Peter:

Most people who speak AGAINST evolution are speaking out of their specialties as well, so it cuts both ways.

Haz27:

Just as you say there is not one "fact" supporting evolution, one could say the same thing about the first 7 days of creation. Moses himself (who wrote it all down) certainly wasn't alive during them, and not even Adam was alive during the first five of them. They are thus hearsay. However, I don't believe this diminishes your belief in them, does it?

I think most Christians who apply a certain degree of scrutiny (hence, possibility of verifiablity and falsifiability) towards scientific theories like evolution would not dare apply the same scandards of scrutiny towards the Bible itself.
---StrongAxe on 10/21/12


Peter. Thanks for your point. Whilst I acknowledge your point, my point was that the scientists I quoted made their comments with justification, as they recognized that scientists in fields directly related to evolution have been unable to find any facts to support this theory.

Jerry6593 has often asked Atheist for facts supporting evolution and none have been offered. No doubt that's because there are none.
---Haz27 on 10/21/12


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Haz27: I do not in ANY way disagree that most people who believe evolution SPEAK OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN SPECIALTY

Most people do, in most things

I just feel that in the things you said, you also quoted some people who in some way had also spoken outside of their own specialty (in a smaller way, perhaps).

It was your comment on Dr.LeMoine as a prestigious doctor that made me notice it - HE IS, but not on evolution.

I AGREE that people who support evolution make errors in what they say, and that evolution is an error

I did not want to argue with YOU, just to say that you may have quoted things that were, while well meant, not completely reliable because the writers were not experts!
---Peter on 10/20/12


Peter. Evolutionists like to point out that the majority of scientists support evolution, and this is in spite of the fact that the majority of them, to use your words, "speak out of their specialty".

Even those within fields directly related to evolution are often found to say that the (so called) evidence for evolution is to be found in another field from their own.

It still remains there is not one iota of fact for evolution, as the various scientists I quoted claim.
As scientists even within a field directly related to evolution can't provide facts to support evolution then whats wrong with scientists from other fields pointing out this fact?
---Haz27 on 10/20/12


Haz27: Your comment about all those Drs who speak agains evolution, the problem is that they all speak out of their specialty - like I was talking about medicine!

The last one, Dr.Fleishman, there is a bigger problem as I see it.

There are two problems about what he has said, and even what he teaches at the University of Erlangen.

Some say he teaches 'Zoology', some say 'comparative anatomy' (both branches of biology, but not the SAME branch!).

Also, a number of comments are listed by him about evolution, but you ONLY picked his ONE most extreme - why did you not list some of his other comments???

PS - I also find evolution extremely hard to believe!!! But don't overdo your statement
---Peter on 10/20/12


Peter. The claim that evolution has not one fact to support it is a valid one, even if made by scientists outside of directly relevant fields.

Atheist also has often been asked to offer facts supporting evolution and has failed to find any.





---Haz27 on 10/20/12


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Haz27: Although I have quite a lot of problems with evolution, I wish to disagree with some of your statements:

"Evolution is a FAIRY TALE for adults"Dr. Paul LeMoine (one of the most prestigious scientists in the world)

Dr.Lemoine is a known doctor indeed - but his work has NOTHING to do with evolution - he was speaking out of his specialty.


Drs Gish and Smith are also taking off their subjects as well

For Dr.Fleishman, I'll write another post
---Peter on 10/20/12


atheist. You really don't have a leg to stand on.

As evolution STILL has not a single fact to support it and the modern day scientists I quoted still concur with Prof Albert Fleishman, then your previous point is clearly false.

Do you really think modern scientists referring to evolution as a 'fairy-tale' is any different to Prof Albert Fleishman who described evolution as merely a "product of the imagination"?
---Haz27 on 10/19/12


The one lone biologist [on the list] was Albert Fleischmann (1862 - 1942), a reputable but relatively obscure German zoologist who taught for decades at the University of Erlangen in Bavaria. In 1901 he published a scientific critique of organic evolution, Die Descendenztheorie, in which he rejected not only Darwinism but all theories of common organic descent.

Numbers, Ronald L., The Creationists: The Evolution of Scientific Creationism, New York: Knoph, 1992, p. 51 - 52.

Haz, you are referencing 110 year old statement. Care to try for something in this century?
---atheist on 10/18/12


Atheist, you are entertaining in your unique sort of way. You remind me of a movie starring Clint Eastwood, set in Africa. Cliff picks a fight but is outmatched, can't score any hits, and friends have to come to his assistance. He, with one eye closed and blood smeared face, says why did you stop the fight, I was wearing him down. You likewise can score no hits but have no friends to drag you away. It's time.

Fun is fun but I think you ave been lying. For example you claimed Jerry had said Biblical creation is a scientifically provable fact. But he didn't did he? Just because you are an atheist doesn't mean you have to be dishonest.
---Warwick on 10/19/12


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If Evolution were a fact - if indeed life did begin and develop through natural processes, then the natural world would show evidence of its origin and development. But, the natural world shows the opposite of this paradigm. Life appears instantly in the fossil record rather that slowly developing from simple to complex. The concept of a driving force in nature that adds information to genomes and creates more complex creatures is refuted by the (natural) 2nd law of thermodynamics.

It would take miracles to overcome these natural impediments to Evolution - but miracles are supernatural!


---jerry6593 on 10/19/12


"A growing number of respectable scientists are defecting from the evolutionist camp.....moreover, for the most part these "experts" have abandoned Darwinism, not on the basis of religious faith or biblical persuasions, but on strictly scientific grounds"
Dr. Wolfgang Smith,

"Evolution is a FAIRY TALE for grown-ups" Dr. Duane Gish,

"Evolution is a FAIRY TALE for adults"Dr. Paul LeMoine (one of the most prestigious scientists in the world)

"The Darwinian theory of descent has NOT A SINGLE FACT to confirm it in the realm of nature. It is not the result of scientific research but purely the PRODUCT OF THE IMAGINATION" Prof Albert Fleishman
---Haz27 on 10/18/12


darwin, darwin, darwin..he is in hell.
---shira4368 on 10/18/12


A theist: Without name calling and derision of Christians, you have nothing to say. How very intellectual!

The ONLY fact we agree on is that we are here. It should be evident to you that there are only two possible explanations - natural and supernatural. The supernatural explanation invokes instantaneous creation, while the the natural (Evolution) is assumed to have occurred over long ages. But what does the (natural) physical record say? The existence of Polonium 210 halos in granite and the Cambrian explosion of life forms without precursors scream "instantaneous Creation". The fossil record is one of catastrophism - not that of the gradualism required by Evolution.

Why?




---jerry6593 on 10/18/12


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God:

A Fairy-Tale
Useless
A Joke
A Flimsy, Dubious hypothesis
A Con
A Hoax
A Theory in Crisis
Scientifically Impossible
For which we don't have one iota of fact.
---atheist on 10/17/12


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A theist: You continue to scream "Evolution is a FACT!" without a single particle of supporting evidence - FACTS.

The ONLY fact we agree on is that we are here. It should be evident to you that there are only two possible explanations - natural and supernatural. You reject the supernatural and adhere to the natural in spite of the hard evidence against a natural system of origins, and in favor of a supernatural. Why? Where's your intellectual honesty?

You assert that instantaneous creation is not a fact but long-age Evolution is - BUT WHERE'S THE PROOF????? For several weeks you've not been able to come up with a single FACT supporting your assertion. Good grief!

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---jerry6593 on 10/17/12


Evolution is the greatest lie ever told to humans. If it catches on, it is going to be impossible to believe God and the Holy Bible. If they must teach this they should teach nothing at all.
---pat on 10/16/12


We see in the quotes I posted earlier from various learned people, Evolution is, in fact:
A Fairy-Tale
Useless
A Joke
A Flimsy, Dubious hypothesis
A Con
A Hoax
A Theory in Crisis
Scientifically Impossible
For which we don't have one iota of fact.

These are the facts of evolution.

Atheist, what foolishness you trust in. Why have you bought in to such a loopy religion of "hocus pocus"?
Just like George Wald, you don't want to believe in God, therefore you choose to believe in what is scientifically impossible.
---Haz27 on 10/15/12


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Atheist, where has Jerry said that Biblical creation is a scientifically provable fact? I must have missed it or did you make it up along wit the rest of your story?
---Warwick on 10/16/12


"Evolution is a FAIRY-TALE for grown-ups. This theory has helped NOTHING in the progress of science. IT IS USELESS" Professor Louis Bounoure

"the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it has been applied, will be one of the great JOKES in the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so very FLIMSY and DUBIOUS an hypothesis could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it has" Malcolm Muggeridge (British philosopher)

"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great CON-MEN, and the story they are telling may be the greatest HOAX ever. In explaining evolution, WE DO NOT HAVE ONE IOTA OF FACT" Dr. T. N. Tahmisian
---Haz27 on 10/15/12


"Evolution is a fact" is a fact.

"God spoke the universe into existence" is not a fact. To continue to assert such, Jerry, diminishes you credibility.
---atheist on 10/15/12


Not an evolution theory but Fact. The atheist knows there's an higher power for creation, or they wouldn't be speaking so much against it.
---Lawrence on 10/15/12


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I see atheist still has not come up with even one fact.
Except to just say evolution is a fact!

Or else you, atheist, would have been more than willing to say see, here it is!
So I take it you don't have any facts!
So, you're just-kind-of running your mouth.
As always!

Jas_3:4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
Jas_3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

I do see the way you kindleth the fire.
Are you enjoying it?
Yes, I think you do!
Peace
---TheSeg on 10/15/12


A theist: So man up will you? and tell us just one FACT about Evolution that you know to be true. Otherwise, you continue to diminish your credibility here.




---jerry6593 on 10/15/12


Cluny: You've gone strangely silent since your assertion that Cambrian life forms came directly from bacteria. Why is that?



---jerry6593 on 10/15/12


"Those of us with a modicum of intelligence realize that simply shouting that something is a fact does not make it so."


You must often laugh at yourselves then... since that seems to be the best you ever do.
---atheist on 10/14/12


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A theist: By now you must be realizing that your childish arguments are being ridiculed by us Christians, particularly with your ONLY argument being the loud proclamation "It's a FACT". Those of us with a modicum of intelligence realize that simply shouting that something is a fact does not make it so.

So man up will you? and tell us just one FACT about Evolution that you know to be true. Otherwise, you continue to diminish your credibility here.

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---jerry6593 on 10/14/12


Atheist,

Wise people read the books of their opponents in order to make an informed decision. What have you read from the PRO-creationist side?

To everyone else, Atheist's (refusal to) answer will indicate whether we're all wasting our time or not.
---Marc on 10/13/12


Stephen Gould said: "Facts do not speak for themselves, they are READ in the light of theory."

Fact is evolutionists like Stephen Gould subjectively interpret facts according to their favoured theory. Their minds are closed as they filter all facts through their preconceived ideas.

George Wald's confession a good example: "I do not want to believe in God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I KNOW is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE..."

Hence a narrow-minded Stephen Gould ignores contradictory evidence and stubbornly claims "And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered."
---Haz27 on 10/13/12


"....evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered."----Stephen Gould
---atheist on 10/13/12


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A theist: Enough of your philosophical doubletalk, circumlocution and obfuscation. Its time for you to put up or shut up.
Name one FACT about Evolution that is provable. Go ahead, I triple-dog dare you.

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---jerry6593 on 10/13/12


Michael Denton, an agnostic medical researcher, caused a storm with his book, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis.
He noted Darwinism has such a STRANGLEHOLD on biological sciences that CONTRADICTORY EVIDENCES from fields like paleontology, developmental biology, molecular biology, and taxonomy are PASSED OFF as squabbles about the process of evolution.

AND remember George Wald, Nobel prize winner Biology? He said "I do not want to believe in God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I KNOW is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, spontaneous generation arising to evolution."
With such bias the so called "fact" of evolution is never really in question.

---Haz27 on 10/12/12


Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.---Stephen J. Gould
---atheist on 10/12/12


"NO", evolution is not a fact. At best it's a theory that's presented as fact. If read statements or listen to speakers who hold to evolution, you will see or hear words like:
"We think", "It may have happened this way", "What if" and other words of this nature. I watch the history channel at times just to see people try and prove evolution. What a mess, most of the people I see on TV hold to some sort of ET invasion that populated the earth. It takes more "faith" to believe those of "preach" evolution, than it does to believe the Bible's account of creation
---wivv on 10/12/12


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Christan,

Yes, Paul in Acts 17.
---Marc on 10/12/12


Dear Jerry, my point is simple. This evolution nonsense keeps popping up in this blog more than the discussion of doctrines taught in the Bible. Do we see anywhere in the Scriptures where the prophets, apostles and even Jesus Christ spent their time at long length debating with such lost souls on the creation of mankind?

I am sure Charles Darwin wasn't the first or the last to lie about the creation of mankind. Guess who was at the garden when God created Adam and Eve?

Afterall, Paul warned, "they are without excuse".
---christan on 10/12/12


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Cluny: Seriously! You think that bacteria were the evolutionary precursors of the highly developed life forms in the Cambrian layer?

That's not Evolution, that's a supernatural miracle that refutes the foundational principles of Evolution. Namely, small gradual changes and long time periods.

The Bible says you're wrong. No Orthodox believer would accept such an affront to the Holy Writ!

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---jerry6593 on 10/12/12


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christan: "Why even bother debating about evolution?"

Because of misguided Christians like Cluny who try to cling to both God's account of Creation and Satan's. They don't mix and never will!

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---jerry6593 on 10/12/12


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"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matthew 12:36,37

Why even bother debating about evolution?
---christan on 10/11/12


aka, sounds very logical to me.
Peace
---TheSeg on 10/11/12


is evolution a fact?
evolution is a fact.

is there a God?
there is no God.

now, let me make silly comments and make fun of those who do not hold these two facts. i do not even need to provide proof.

pretty cool.
---aka on 10/11/12


Atheist is a myth.
---Marc on 10/11/12


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\\Darwin had trouble with the Cambrian explosion which is a fact based on fossil record. \\

The Cambrian explosion is multicellular fossils--both plants and animals.

The technology in Darwin's day did not allow for detection of single celled organisms in pre-Cambrian rocks, but these are commonly found today.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/11/12


Evolution is a fact.
atheist

A theist: "Evolution is a fact."

OK, genius, then it shouldn't be difficult for you to name one FACT about Evolution that is provable. Go ahead, I double-dog dare you.
jerry6593

The floor is yours!
Go for it, what are the facts?
Just make sure its a fact!
Not just you and your fathers imagination.
Joh_8:44!
---TheSeg on 10/11/12


Evolution is a fact,only in the minds of evolutionists.
It never happened and it's not happening now...where's the proof?
---1st_cliff on 10/11/12


to anyone that does not believe in evolution..get this one. athiest was born a tiny person and so innocent. Now, he has evolved into a bitter man who doesn't even believe God gave him life. brother, that is real evolution.
---shira4368 on 10/11/12


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A theist: "Evolution is a fact."

OK, genius, then it shouldn't be difficult for you to name one FACT about Evolution that is provable. Go ahead, I double-dog dare you.

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---jerry6593 on 10/11/12


Evolution is a fact.
---atheist on 10/10/12


atheist, it is a myth based on theory just like you claim the existence of God belief in God is a myth based on a story.

Darwin had trouble with the Cambrian explosion which is a fact based on fossil record. it shows evidence of the appearance of many types of life with no living predecessors. "Darwin considered this sudden appearance of many animal groups with no known antecedents to be the gravest single objection to his theory of evolution. "
---aka on 10/10/12


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