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Rape Pregnancies God's Will

Richard Mourdock, running for U.S. Senate in Indiana, said at a debate Tuesday that pregnancies that result from rape are intended by God.

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Placing the guilt of murder on someone else is also not right...

How is this loving your neighbour as yourself, or following the 10 Commandments, which is not to murder.

Trish play's on emotional feelings because it turns up more votes. The truth is,No child is going to be any less stressed or better for having an abortion.

What the baby poisoned, and then scraped out of the mothers womb limb by limb, as every part has to be accounted for.



What kind of "saved" mother and father could agree's to that,
The baby is your relative son/daughter and grandchild is it not ?



DEAL WITH THE TRUTH of abortion not what someone cannot see or has never experienced.
---Carla on 10/29/12


It is...NOT..."GOD's Will" that a woman be raped. But, what GOD does, is, HE takes that rape situation, and allows fertilization and conception of a child. And, the rape victim should give birth to the baby and, if she does not want, or CANNOT keep the child, for whatever reason, then, give it up for adoption. Please remember, beloved people, that SIN ALWAYS AFFECTS "INNOCENT PEOPLE". Always! YAHUSHUA's Death on the Cross is the perfect Example of this! Mourdock meant the right thing, but, said it in the wrong way.
---Gordon on 10/29/12


There is no authorisation for abortion by God in the passage you quoted!!! Please be careful as you will mislead some people who do not bother to check your reference.
---Adetunji on 10/29/12
You need to open yoru eyes
What on earth do youthink happens to the child she is carrying

do you for one second think that she gives birth to that child?
---francis on 10/29/12


"I like the OT and NT verse about God forgiveness and reaction to our fallen lives." Scott1

The problem with many is that they do not acknowledge that His mercy and love is particular as declared in the Scriptures and that it's not extended to everyone or how else would He declare, "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

And even, "Therefore hath He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardeneth." Meaning, mercy is His to demonstrate because of His love to Jacob and when He hates, He will not show mercy as to Esau.

"What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid."
---christan on 10/29/12


JackB,
That is why I have said many times that Calvinism teaches that only good people go to heaven, and betrays its own "faith alone" doctrine
---James_L on 10/29/12




"It doesnt. Kathr explained that very well." JackB

My, a little self-righteous are we? So, would you mind explaining that thief on the cross who was sentenced to die hanging next to Christ? Last we know from the Scripture, he was a still a thief on that cross and yet Jesus said to him, "Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43

Well? Wanna try explaining how as a thief he was promised Paradise by the Lord Jesus Christ?
---christan on 10/29/12


Linda/Jack B, only the righteous enter the kingdom of God. unless you want murderers and rapist to enter. But what you want and what God wants are two different things. Why not just send everyone into the kingdom of God without Christ? Why do you not just say that? The unrigheous do not enter the kingdom of God even if you guys want them too. Maybe you guys are murderers and rapist and want a free pass. No such pass. That comes not from me but from God's Word. Read it and you might know the Truth and it might set you free, free indeed.
---Mark_V. on 10/29/12


//Are you blind? Read again "...both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done." Acts 4:28//
(They choose to sin)

Christian, I can see by your comment that you focus (your view of God) on the predestination aspect of God, cool. I like the OT and NT verse about God forgiveness and reaction to our fallen lives. For example, Moses pleades for forgiveness to save Israel after the calf, with the snakes, Jesus comes to Peter with the 3 "Do you love me" questions. Yes, God knows we are going to sin but yes we choose to sin when we do and yes God uses our evil intentions for His glory.
---Scott1 on 10/29/12


\\No rapist, murderers, slanders etc will enter heaven.\\
---Mark_V. on 10/28/12


Where does scripture say that?
---James_L on 10/28/12

It doesnt. Kathr explained that very well. Mark and his beliefs have just condemned Moses and King David.
---JackB on 10/28/12


Only the righteous enter heaven. No rapist, murderers, slanders etc will enter heaven. If they did you would not be safe in heaven, if you ever enter it. You would be looking over your shoulder in the event you would be raped or murdered---MarkV

This sounds like the reasoning of a very young child - one who doesn't understand the regeneration.
---LindaH on 10/28/12




Atheist: The parents, doctors and nurses have not broken any laws. Why would they be punished?
---Trish on 10/29/12


"And markv's god is so weak, he can't even save a murderer or rapest..." kathr

What about your god? Your understanding of John 12:32 is so erroneous that multitudes are now waiting in Hades waiting to be cast into the Lake of Fire on Judgement Day. What God says "HE WILL" and can't? Your god.

For my Jesus explicitly said, "WILL DRAW ALL men unto me"! It's backed up in John 6:37, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me, and HIM THAT COMETH TO ME I WILL IN NO WISE CAST OUT." Again, my Jesus says "I WILL IN NO WISE CAST THEM OUT".

But yours can't back that claim because multitudes are in Hades now waiting to be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
---christan on 10/29/12


francis: //And God does authorize abortions in the case of pregnancy by adultery, even when the woman is not raped. ( Numbers 5:29) // Are you changing the Bible for argument case? There is no authorisation for abortion by God in the passage you quoted!!! Please be careful as you will mislead some people who do not bother to check your reference.
---Adetunji on 10/29/12


A girl, fourteen is raped and becomes pregnant. She has an abortion with the help of her parents, doctors and nurses.

Should these people be punished and to what extent.
---atheist on 10/28/12


Hi Allan
Amen and Amen!
---pg1 on 10/28/12


Pregnancies by two married people, father and mother, is out of their own decision to continue their family blessed by God.

Rape is a sin once punishable by death...for either both or the male or marriage depending on the circumstances,however, to sacrifice ones own will and have the baby is intended by God to abort the baby is murder regardless.
---Carla on 10/28/12


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\\No rapist, murderers, slanders etc will enter heaven.\\
---Mark_V. on 10/28/12


Where does scripture say that?
---James_L on 10/28/12


MarkV no drunkerd nor liars, or cowards will enter heaven either.

In otherwords no unregenerate man who is not saved, that is, forgiven and washed in the blood of Jesus Christ by His Grace and resulting in becoming a NEW creation IN CHRIST ALONE can enter heaven. Because the NEW CREATURE cannot sin. 1st John makes that clear.

Anyone, including a murderer or rapest can find forgivness in Christ and as a result become that new creature in Christ.
---kathr4453 on 10/28/12


The politician's comments are clearly nonsense, but it reflects a growing thought pattern among many who call themselves christian and republican. The truth is, the polician spoke what he knew many professing christians and supporters believe.

However, more importantly are the facts on the matter of rape. There are about 200,000 rapes committed in America every year. That means that more than 500 women are brutalized in the most horrendous way.

And amazingly, the society still presents itself as an example of virtue for the rest of the world! God help us!
---Allan on 10/28/12


Francis thank you so much for the prayer and good wishes.He is doing well and its because of all the prayers. I'm very grateful. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 10/28/12


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Kathr, your mind is corrupt, you say,

"And markv's god is so weak, he can't even save a murderer or rapest. MarkV's god can only save those he created beforehand to be NICE RESPECTABLE SINNERS."

For it is written,
"... I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance"
Jesus came to save sinners from damnation. Only the righteous enter heaven. No rapist, murderers, slanders etc will enter heaven. If they did you would not be safe in heaven, if you ever enter it. You would be looking over your shoulder in the event you would be raped or murdered. Only the justified and righteous enter heaven. And Jesus saves those whom the Father draws to Himself. Those who are given to Him.
---Mark_V. on 10/28/12


During that time didn't they stone women to death who commited adultry?
my husband is in the hospital right now,
---Darlene_1 on 10/27/12

I HAVE PRAYED FOR YOUR HUSBAND. I pray for his speedy recovery

I think you can only stone for adyltery if caught in the act ( I think not 100% sure)
---francis on 10/28/12


Francis thank you I would love to study that more,not sure I can find the right sources but will go on line to a Bible research site. I love finding the meaning of words,this should be interesting. During that time didn't they stone women to death who commited adultry? I wonder why they didn't her if that wwas the practice,perhaps the curse was worse than stoning. It may take a while my husband is in the hospital right now,doctors had to remove 18 inches of the small and medium intestine,Praise God,no cancer. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 10/27/12


---Darlene_1 on 10/27/12
---pg1 on 10/27/12

Good comments
1: What would happen to the baby that she was currently corrying if she was pregnant by another man, would she carry it to term of would it be aborted?

2: Use as many bible version as posible. Find out what the phrase Numbers 5:21 "thigh to rot," and "belly to swell" really means

Also while you are at it, look up the phrase "1 Samuel 24:3 "cover his feet"

My point here, just as " cover his gfeet" does literally mean cover his feet, neither does thigh to rot literally mean her thigh will rot
---francis on 10/27/12


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Francis I read all of Numbers 5 and no where does it say that what is done,the bitter water.the curse,or any of it terminates the pregancy in the unfaithful woman. It is a ritual to find out if she is guilty of the sin charged to her by her husband not to get rid of the baby she carries. Blessings
---Darlene_1 on 10/27/12


What about the legal ramifications? I can see it now, a rapist is caught and his line of defense is, "God made me do it." Base on what Richard Mourdock stated, the rapist might be found innocent! Plus, he might decide he wants the baby, and forbid abortion, what then?
---wivv on 10/27/12


Hi Francis
I don't think numbers 5 is about abortion but the woman is cursed with barreness or the inability to carry a child if God found her guilty of adultery. If she was found not guilty then there would be no curse and she would not be hurt from drinking the mixture. She could also conceive according to v. 28. It was test to see if she had really committed adultery not a procedure to end a pregnancy.
---pg1 on 10/27/12


I have trouble accepting Mourdock's ideas as well, but I do not feel we can use Numbers 5 as a counter argument
---Peter on 10/27/12

You may not feel that way, But lets keep in mind what happens in numbers 5
1: the husband suspects his wife is pregnant for another man
2: the husband takes her to the priest
3: the wife agrees to go through the procedure knowing full well, that she is pregnant for another man
4: She goes through a procedure which she knows will end in the termination of a pregnancy
5: Most important: It is a God ordained procedure

Which leads us to the only conclusion: God has ordained a procedure which terminates a pregnancy in cases of adultery
---francis on 10/27/12


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Brother Mark V,thank you for your input. Yes I know who is talking in Psalms 119:133,I didn't say it was God,I said we are to line our lives up with the Word of God and all the Bible is the Word of God. I also didn't deny God is every where and knows all,in fact one of my favorite scriptures is the soul of man is the eye of God searching out the inner most parts of man. Free Will doesn't exclude God having foreknowledge of us knowing every thought and move. I am not a puppet in God's hand but a child of the King who loves and wants to please my Father,like any child and parent I can make mistakes because God allows me the freedom to do so. God doesn't dictate our choices but,His Word guides us to the right ones. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 10/27/12


Franicis: The full contents of Number 5 are long and complex, and in those cases the abortion is ONLY an act of God, as it is God who decides whether the pregnancy occurred by adultery or though marriage

I have trouble accepting Mourdock's ideas as well, but I do not feel we can use Numbers 5 as a counter argument
---Peter on 10/27/12


Christ said,
Matthew 15:18_20 "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man.
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man."

Some of you are saying then that God put all that corruption in each man who thereafter act on it?

Romans 2:24 "For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written." (read and heed, you inward Jew...)
---Nana on 10/27/12


Richard Mourdock is not saying that it is God's plan that women should get pregnant by rape. What he is saying is that is a woman is raped, and get's pregnant, that pregnancy is the will of God

He is DEAD WRONG
It is NOT the will of God that anyone get's raped, or get's pregnant by rape, incest, or adultery

And God does authorize abortions in the case of pregnancy by adultery, even when the woman is not raped. ( Numbers 5:29)

So you cannot force a woman to carry the seed on any man EXCEPT her husband!!!
---francis on 10/27/12


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RICHARDC this is what I was saying. God is not the author of RAPE.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

And markv's god is so weak, he can't even save a murderer or rapest. MarkV's god can only save those he created beforehand to be NICE RESPECTABLE SINNERS.

MY GOD CAN SAVE ANY SINNER!
---kathr4453 on 10/27/12


Sis. Darline, some of what you wrote it true. (Ps. 119:133), is a statement from the Psalmist. He was talking to God, expressing what he knew about God and what he wanted God to do for him. It was not God talking and explaining who He was and what He does. It was the Psalmist speaking.
God's knowing what we will choose is a function of His omnipresence since He is in all places all the time. If he were not, He would not know what choices we were freely going to make. I say freely because no one put a gun to their head. To deny that God is all-knowing even when we make our choices we make, is to deny His Omnipresence and reduce God's nature to something more like ourselves, for the soul purpose to defend the so call free will of sinful man.
---Mark_V. on 10/27/12


My post about atheism was from the late Fr. Seraphim Rose, an Orthodox writer.

I hope all of you think about it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/26/12


"I guess "Is it God's will" comes down to your view of God." Scott1

Are you blind? Read again "...both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done." Acts 4:28

"were gathered together... determined to be done" and you are saying that it's my interpretation or view? It's in black and white! Truth be told, you're in unbelief of the Word of God, simple as that.

A warning: "And when He is come, He will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me." It's happening.
---christan on 10/26/12


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Kathr, with your distorted view of God, you came out with a god who is defeated everyday by man and satan every time something happens in the world who has rapist going to heaven in a basket. Who controls nothing, rules over no one. A jesus who seats waiting and hoping people to come to Him. A god that you can come to him without faith, and because of your gracious works in coming to him, he will give you the pleasures of your heart. A jesus who was created, who was never the son from eternity past. That is the god you present to everyone, and you tell everyone that is the way it is, because you said so. Sorry, but you are very wrong.
---Mark_V. on 10/26/12


Kathr 4453 - on 10/25/12 - SIN was never Predestined By God - ?

Acts 2:23 - HIM being delivered by the determinate counsel and Foreknowledge of God ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain.

Proverbs 16:4 - THE Lord hath made all things fore himself : even the wicked for the day of evil.

Genesis 50:20 - BUT as for you, ye thought evil against me : but God meant it unto good, to bring it to pass,as it is this day to save much people alive.

Joshua 11:20 - FOR it was the Lord to Harden the hearts, That they should not come against Israel in battle , that he might destroy them utterly. and that they might have no favor, but that he might destroy them, as the Lord commanded Moses.
---RICHARDC on 10/26/12


True 'existential' atheism burning with hatred of a seemingly unjust or unmerciful God, is a spiritual state, it is a real attempt to grapple with the true God Whose ways are so inexplicable even to the most believing of men, and it has more than once been known to end in a blinding vision of Him Whom the real atheist truly seeks. It is Christ Who works in these souls. The Antichrist is not to be found primarily in the great deniers, but in the small affirmers, whose Christ is only on the lips. Nietzsche, in calling himself Antichrist, proved thereby his intense hunger for Christ.
---Cluny on 10/26/12


When the Bible says man plans his way but God directs his steps,its plain to me I have the control over what I plan,but when I walk in my plan God directs me in the steps to acomplish that plan if it is pleasing to Him and lines up with His Word. Psalms 119:133 Direct my footsteps according to your word,let no sin rule over me. God also directs our hearts when we are children of God,we must know the Word of God and follow Him by his Word and He will quicken to us in our hearts how to please God. Even if God predestined us in a certain way I don't see in the Bible where he Micro-managed the Apostles every move,they made mistakes,and although Jesus knew they would He didn't keep them from doing it. God desires a willing heart full of love for Him.
---Darlene_1 on 10/26/12


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Rape and Job's experience cannot be compared. God responded to Job the way He did so that Job would undertand that he was not as good as he thought. He also learned that he did not understand God or his ways. That's why his final conclusion was "My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you. Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes." Job 42:5-6.
---pg1 on 10/26/12


//do you think it was God's will and purpose for His Son to die OR was it Herod, Pilate and the people's will? Scripture declares,//christian

No and No, It was not his will that we should sin in the first place. He knew he would have to die, so that we could be redeemed but not his will. The verse you quoted is true, but it "... pleased the Lord..." not kill his Son but to redeem us. See Luke 20 9-14
---Scott1 on 10/26/12


I guess "Is it God's will" comes down to your view of God. Is He purely reactionary to our actions or is He a purely control freak, making our actions robotic aka preprogrammed. If either one is true then he is either great (powerful) or good (benefit) but not both. In reality, there is a wide spectrum with varing percentages of the extremes in different circumstances.
What does God's Will mean - desires, pleasures, anything that happens. This is why God comes in both Grace (forgiveness) and Truth (consquences).
---Scott1 on 10/26/12


Scott1, do you think it was God's will and purpose for His Son to die OR was it Herod, Pilate and the people's will? Scripture declares,

"Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him, He hath put Him to grief: when thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin..." Isaiah 53:10

And this was even before Christ came in the flesh, prophesied by Isaiah. And some people say predestination is hog-wash. In Acts 4:28, Peter revealed to us about the crucifixion of Christ, saying

"...both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done."

Awesome plan isn't it?
---christan on 10/26/12


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I have never claimed to be any kind of authority on God's Word but killing is killing. Our country has said its ok to murder 50,000 babies in a short time. their blood will be on our hands. while I don't believe in predestination,God does know everything we are going to do and He also knows what we think and the pits our hearts.All humans will suffer for what we do in the flesh. Jesus Christ died for all mankind...not just a few. it is really mind blowing concept and I'm not saying I understand it all. any female who is raped and has a child, God will not judge her but will judge the rapist, sodomites, anger,railing and many more. God bless
---shira4368 on 10/26/12


Deut.22:25-26. God commanded that the rapist should die and nothing should be done to the woman raped. Why should the child not be accepted?
---Adetunji on 10/26/12


No Christan, i do not mock predestination, only you.

Jacob and his descendents were predestined/Elect/chosen to keep the Law of Moses.

What I mock is your inability to know what and why the Nation of Israel was chosen/predestined for and for what, and what the CHURCH was predestined and chosen for and what.

The Church is made up of many menbers, and you are just a drop in that bucket of members.

YOU are not "all by yourself" the Church.
---kathr4453 on 10/26/12


God purposed Jesus to die ona cross, no doubt ther, we are even told in Isaiah 53 that would happen.

Galatians 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:


But did God Purpose ( His WILL ) for man to disobey His Will?

If you are doing God's will, you are not breaking God's will. God did not purpose or for-ordain anyone to break His Will.

1 Thessalonians 4:3
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

also abstain from rape, molestation.
---kathr4453 on 10/26/12


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Wow, kathr, what an impressive speech you last wrote. Especially the part about only 5 verses I know.

You mock predestination, which means you mock God. For Scripture declares, "The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done."
Acts 4:26-28

Mind you, Scripture here is declaring the act of crucifying Christ was "predestined" by God and we're not even taking about rapists yet.
---christan on 10/26/12


Sin especially rape is never God's will. We live in a broken fallen world. God's will is never to harm his children (christian and non-christian). Look at Job, God allowed, but not his will, for Satan to harm Job. I never want to diminish the horrors of sexual abuse but God does use the evil of this world to His glory. How does God respond to Job? Does he give Job an apology or a shoulder to cry on. no. God reveals himself in all his power and majesty Ch 38-42. In Job 42:12 Job becomes twice as greater than he was before. A child is a gift from God and rape though tragic which brings forth a child can be a blessing. The senator could have said it better probably but this is what I hope he meant.
---Scott1 on 10/26/12


Oh, I forgot. What I wrote from the Bible happens to be "spiritual English" from the Lord. Should have known better...
---christan on 10/26/12


Kathr, God is all knowing. It is God who restrains sin within certain limits, that He brings good out of intended evil, and overules the evil for His own glory. Since God is infinite in power and wisdom, sin could have no existence except by His permission. All evil forces are under His absolute control and could be blotted out of existence in an instant if He so willed. Even the acts of Satan are so controlled and limited that they serve God's purposes.
It is said that God hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and the very words which God addressed to Pharaoh were,
"But in every deed for this cause have I made thee to stand, to show thee my power, and that My name might be declared throughout all the earth" (Ex. 9:16).
---Mark_V. on 10/26/12


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Of coarse Christan and MarkV will turn every question is into presestination. But people please overlook christan's shallow understanding of God. Christan only knows 5 veses in the Bible, and none are the WHOLE council of God, only his distorted view of who he THINKS Gos is.

Rape is no different than any other sexual perversion, or child molestation.

God did not for-ordain or DECREE or whatever, that neighbor who raped and murdered and molested your little boy or girl.

Please don't let the doctrine of Calvinism cause you to hate God.

Calvinists are liars and perverts themselves slandering the charactor of God.

This country is being taken over by them and it's not going to be a pretty sight!
---kathr4453 on 10/26/12


athiest, christan had to answer that way because he needs to show man has no free will. He first states God designed rapest and then wants to burn them in hell.

What we all need to do is PRAY for those rapests who are in the clutches of the hands of satan, and pray for their souls that they would cry out to God for salvation, so that they can then be SET FREE from this sin that so easily takes over that drives them to do what they do.
---kathr4453 on 10/26/12


Sorry,

I only read English....
---atheist on 10/25/12


atheist, do you not understand what I've just written? Go read it again... it's in black and white.
---christan on 10/25/12


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Christan,

More importantly what's yours?
---atheist on 10/25/12


"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass, I have purposed it, I will also do it." Isaiah 46:11,12

The word you are looking for is "predestined". But make no mistake that whoever committed that act of rape will be HELD ACCOUNTABLE by God and is not going to escape God's judgement whatsoever. In this, God is Sovereign and man WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

So, what's your point, atheist?
---christan on 10/25/12


Hi pat,
There is no way for him to explain his comments. They are self explanatory. He believes that pregnancy resulting from rape is what God intended. I don't take issue with his beliefs because he is entitled to them. However,I do have a problem with his lack of wisdom and diplomacy which is needed if you are going to be on the world stage. Just because you think it does not mean you should say it. He owes every woman in America an apology.
---pg1 on 10/25/12


The body will do what God designed it to do if nothing is physically wrong and the conditions are right for conception. Scripture says that children are heritage from the Lord but I don't think the writer had rape in mind when he made the declaration. Rape resulting in pregnacy is not God's will and for any politician to suggest otherwise is an affront to any woman who has had the unfortunate experience of sexual assault.
---pg1 on 10/25/12


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Athiest, concerning Joseph: We need to remember that Joseph had a dream concerning God's predetermined will for Joseph long before Joseph was sold into Egypt. And the very fulfilling of that dream came to pass.

Just as Jesus was forordained to be rejected by His brethren, and we also see that too came to pass,

BUT there is no prophesy concerning any RAPES to take place for God's purpose or Glory.

God can use our mistakes for His Glory, that is another matter.

MarkV has stated over and over that rapist, are forordained to hell. Yet he wants us to believe with that that the offspring of these acts of rape are for-ordained and predestined bu God.

SIN was never forordained and predestined by God.
---kathr4453 on 10/25/12


Children no matter the circumstances of the conception are gifts from the Lord. This does not mean the one who rapes should not be dealt with according to the law. I believe God has a purpose for the unborn child, that is why HE granted the formation of it.
---Adetunji on 10/25/12


I believe Americans are far too busy rushing to judgment over what people say! Too many are concern with offense, and no one cares about offending God. The wicked man, are an offense to the living God everyday. Richard Mourdock came on television and tried to explain that he did not mean what people thought he meant. We should except that and get on with it. With all the troubles in this land. What is the matter with people, today. I don't know. And for goodness sakes, when someone apologizes on national television, we should except it, and not call for their resignation. Come on.
---pat on 10/25/12


That is the biggest bunch of Satan's lies I've heard lately. God cannot be tempted with evil,Jesus proved that when Satan tried to seduce Him and He rebuked Satan. Knowing that,how could anyone say evil,rape, is God's will,that tells me the one who said it should go back to his Bible and learn the nature of God and not just read the words. The rain falls on the just and the unjust in this world,the righteous plan their steps but God directs their way. God knows about evil but God fights it and never intends for anyone to sin. God would never intend for sin to happen He tells us,Sin no more.
---Darlene_1 on 10/25/12


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First,let me say thankfull, that I am alive, my mother (now deceast) tried desesparately kill (abort) me & twin sister,Thankfull, she did not suceede! Some if you have read my life,I am glad to be alive,God has done wonderfull things both me and my twin sister life! She also, had cancer but lived by faith a good many years because of a mercifull Father.Love of JESUS! ELENA
---ELENA on 10/24/12


If the bible states that God is against even mere thoughts of lust,how much more would he be against rape?! Since when has Richard been Gods mouth piece? He's a politician, since when have they told the truth? Come on now atheist,you can do better than that. I've read your previous post. If your gainsaying drops any lower you'll be converted
:-)
---lovemyenemies on 10/25/12


Willie C, you are right. The sale of Joseph into Egypt by his brothers was a very wicked act, yet we see that it was overruled not only for Joseph's good but also for the good of the brothers themselves. When it is traced to its source we see that God was the Author. It had it exact place in the divine plan. Joseph later said to his brother,
"And now be not grieved nor angry with yourselves, that ye sold me hither, for God did send me before you to preserve life...So now it was not you that sent me hither but God.. And as for you, ye meant evil against me, but God meant it for good" (Gen 45:5,8: 50:20).
How can athiest understand this truths if he does not even believe in God?
---Mark_V. on 10/25/12


God created Adam/Eve, with the equipment to procreate. Because of man's fallen sin nature, He also laid down laws re: procreation. If God were 100% in charge of every birth, and no birth could take place without His divine intervention, no such laws would exist. Thou shall not commit adultry, or sleep with your mother, sister, daughter or another man's wife.etc. Even premarital relations were forbidden. It was against God's law for Israel to take wives of the heathen nations and make marriages with them, and vice versa. Look what happpened to Jacob's Daughter, and her brothers who avenged her abduction...rape.

God is not creating life out of rape, man is.

God is not the author is sin. He is however the author of life itself.
---kathr4453 on 10/25/12


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\\But if the pregnancies resulting from rape are God's will then the rape itself must be God's will. So God want's young women to be raped in order to have a child.\\

Non sequituur.

God does not desire evil, but He does bring GOOD out of evil.

"Children are a blessing from the Lord," the Bible says, and the circumstances of the conception do NOT vitiate the blessing.

And anyway, why should the child be executed for the crime of her father?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/24/12


No rapes were not intended by God.

Richard Mourdock is a human being who lacks any knowledge of God yet loosely and carelessly uses Gods name in his speeches as if speaking with authority.

Just because someone uses the name of God, says his name, makes reference to him, or is perceived by the people to have power does not make that person a representative of God.
---Follower_of_Christ on 10/24/12


rape pregnancy a result of chance or even natural selection? survival of the fittest...right?

if the rapist is an atheist or not...so be it.

is this what you teach your daughter?
---aka on 10/24/12


Foil: Anything that serves by contrast to call attention to another thing's good qualities.

Atheist, I consider you one of God's best "foils".

The act of rape is an appalling evil perptrated by men, and God created all men, therefore He is responsible.

His Son was given for life's justifying, and sin and evil have been dealt with at Calvary. Jn 3:18-19 Jn 5:24

It is now a matter of believing on the Son, and those who do sincerly believe, will find redemption.

There is only One Who will judge everything that has happened. Only He knows what was or wasn't God's will.
---Phil on 10/24/12


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And are you asking a question or merely delivering information, atheist?

Gospel singer Mahalia Jackson was conceived as a result of rape.

So was a woman lawyer (whose name I cannot now remember) who specializes in family law.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/24/12


Willie, I can make no sense of what you are trying to say.


But if the pregnancies resulting from rape are God's will then the rape itself must be God's will. So God want's young women to be raped in order to have a child.

That's just a little less twisted than a burning Hell.
---atheist on 10/24/12


Richard Mourdock, running for U.S. Senate in Indiana, said at a debate Tuesday that pregnancies that result from rape are intended by God.
---atheist on 10/24/12

That is the idea of SOME ( not all) republicans. And it is surely not the view of Christians
---francis on 10/24/12


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