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\\I'll refresh your ailing mind that has fallen into idolatry, I live in America and I have a right to express my opinion.\\

FoC, I've already said elsewhere what opinions are like. This simile includes your opinions.

However, you cannot accuse StrongAxe of worshipping Obama, as he is NOT a US citizen.

Once more you prove you have a mouth-shaped foot. Or is it a foot-shaped mouth?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/25/12


Follower_of_Christ:

Yes, anyone living in America has the right to say whatever he wants without legal retribution, but so what? Paul said that everything was permitted to him, but not everything was beneficial nonetheless.

The Biblical standard of 2-3 witnesses was established for every accusation of sin or crime - it was SPECIFICALLY about accusations against men.

Your claim "obama is not my god he is yours" is an accusation of idolatry, a very grave offense among Christians. So please show (i.e. witnesses) exactly where I have said ANYTHING about worshipping Obama, other than repeatedly denying it? If not, YOU are guilty of bearing false witness, something the Bible does speak about VERY specifically!
---StrongAxe on 11/17/12


\\ 2-3 witnesses that is judging in, or for, Gods Word, not against any man and their political agenda\\

You don't actually think you judge according to God's word, do you, FoC?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/16/12


If not, it's merely unsubstantiated allegation (and remember, the Bible requires 2-3 witnesses for any accusation, NOT just presupposition).

yes I'm well aware that anything said against the dictator obama is a big no, no today, because the obama worshipers believe obama is a god who does not lie, and is going to take them to the promised land, I'll refresh your ailing mind that has fallen into idolatry, I live in America and I have a right to express my opinion it is called free speech (at least for the next year or so) as for the 2-3 witnesses that is judging in, or for, Gods Word, not against any man and their political agenda please do understand the difference because obama is not my god he is yours
---Follower_of_Christ on 11/15/12


Trish, I believe you give all you have into help people and yet, people who know how fine couteous helpfull on here, I could imagine my friend you are not lazy because even though you often sick you do not slack on doing for God! I commend you! I had to quit doing alot. I was really not well.and they had issues/ I am never going to.put up with discrimination so I just quit.
I left and it hurt me so bad, I will never do that again. Nobody cared anymore. I am a human being.a woman. I did not argue.That not me.
---ELENA on 11/15/12




\\did you see the video of a lady who was ask by a reporter how she got her money. she said obama gave it to me. then the reporter ask who gave it to obama and she said nobody, it was obamas money.\\

And where did YOU see this video, shira? It was never a video.

There was a RADIO report from people being interviewed thinking they were going to get $3000 from "Obama's stash." The line was really for people to apply for Section 8 housing (which is available only very rarely).

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/16/12


Shira, I don't need any help from Obama. That's not why I voted for him.

I voted for him, and the other Democrats, for the millions of children living in poverty. I taught hundreds of kids, in one of the poorest school districts in Pennsylvania, for long enough to see that the kids are in need of help. They did nothing to deserve being born into poverty. They deserve good healthcare and food to eat. They also deserve a good education. l

I taught in an urban youth detention center for two years, before teaching in a large urban school district for eighteen. I vote for the kids.
---Trish on 11/16/12


trish, hopefully obama can help you. I know you are not lazy but most of the mindset for welfare is just let the government support everyone. did you see the video of a lady who was ask by a reporter how she got her money. she said obama gave it to me. then the reporter ask who gave it to obama and she said nobody, it was obamas money. now we suffer four more years of taking from the rich and giving to the lazy. when I see the stats on welfare, I cringe.
---shira4368 on 11/15/12


\\more recycled stupidity???\\

No. Just facts. Or are you denying what I'm telling you? Of course, I've noticed that objective information means nothing to you, FoC.

And, FWIW, I voted for Romney.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/15/12



It's amazing how all of you self-righteous Christians can stereotype people who don't meet your standard


and likewise Trish it is amazing that you are that dense or purposely twist this to fulfill your self-righteous pity-me-party when my post had nothing to do with your situation. did you not read my post, it was for able bodied people who can work yet choose not to, so that makes you the one with the problem, so please hop off your high horse and your all-hail-to-obama routine, you and all who voted for the dictator obama are proving you truly have an inability to decipher the real crux of the dire situation America is facing
---Follower_of_Christ on 11/15/12




Follower: I voted for Obama when I was teaching full time, and working a part time job, earning close to six figures. Now, I live on SSD and a Disability Retirement. I do not consider myself lazy, nor enslaved to the government. I volunteer in a drug/alcohol agency 18 hours a week. Plus I serve in two church ministries, one on Sundays, and one during the week.

It's amazing how all of you self-righteous Christians can stereotype people who don't meet your standards, yet you all get on your high horse when Liberals stereotype the Evangelical Right. Both are wrong. In general, Evangelicals don't deserve the way the Liberals view them. But, neither do the poor deserve to be viewed as lazy, good for nothings either.
---Trish on 11/15/12


he purpose of government assistance is for people to grow lazy, numb, living a pathetic existence
---Follower_of_Christ on 11/15/12

Such a compassionate statement from a "Christian".
---NurseRobert on 11/15/12


Follower_of_Christ:

If our posts are recycled stupidity, yours is recycled propaganda, when you say the purpose of government assistance is for people to grow lazy, numb, living a pathetic existence. That certain is not the officially stated purpose in any of the laws passed to create the welfare system. Can you find any documentation that states that this is the secret unofficial purpose? If not, it's merely unsubstantiated allegation (and remember, the Bible requires 2-3 witnesses for any accusation, NOT just presupposition).
---StrongAxe on 11/15/12


Cluny is right! I had to go back when first on CNT for Chemo, but aside from the nurses bad error/ I had to quit anyway NO transportation to get me for anymore cancer therapy. I could not get neither the hospital nor cancer society help.because no more help available. I had no issue with agency but I have to buy now a lot of vitamins / supplements need desperately for me just be able get up out of bed. I have to try and eat or I am just too weak. Thankfull, have the ability do what I can.
There is alot of aftercare things you must do for this cancer, breast cancer you have buy things that keep you have dignity let me say it that way. Alot I had to learn on my own.the hospital will not tell you.too many cancer and aids patients.
---ELENA on 11/15/12



Contrary to what people think, those on such assistance don't grow fat and prosperous.


more recycled stupidity???

the purpose of government assistance is for people to grow lazy, numb, living a pathetic existence sorry to break it to you prosperity was never in that equation why does government want this?? because people financially enslaved to government are more manageable than those who are financially independent!! and this is exactly what most people don't get true purpose of welfare was created to enslave people, exactly what obama wanted and his campaign hammered home to hate the rich because when you badmouth success it is easier to accept the handout and be a slave to the government
---Follower_of_Christ on 11/15/12


\\when I can sit at home all day doing nothing hanging out with my welfare friends"\\

For what it's worth, I'm on SSI, and don't even get $700 a month, plus a grand total of $35 in food stamps.

Contrary to what people think, those on such assistance don't grow fat and prosperous.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/15/12


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Jed and Strongaxe, both of you are correct. The whole system is messed up. In fact every system we have is corrupt. They all need reform, but that will never happen. My brother who died, two years ago, worked for the welfare. He said he had hundreds and hundreds of cases, he himself could not check all of them. What he had to do many times was just ok them. Husband were reported to have left wife's and they would get checks and food stamps, while the husbands had not really left.
It is not one persons fault, but so many, it is the sin of the world. Our propositions have many loop holes. Social Security is almost shot also. Politicians getting rich.
---Mark_V. on 11/13/12


StrongAxe: Most of Wal-Mart's employees already collect food stamps. They don't pay a living wage, while one of the Waltons is worth 21 Billion Dollars. Some job creator they are.
---Trish on 11/12/12


Follower_of_Christ:

It's even worse than that. Someone working minimum wage at Walmart, being given 24 hours a week (less than 40 hours, so no health insurance) is WORSE OFF than someone on welfare who may be eligible for government-subsidized insurance.

It isn't a matter of "Why should I waste my time at a job that pays me as much as I get for free". It's a matter of "If I take this job, my kids will lose their health care, so I can't AFFORD to work!"
---StrongAxe on 11/12/12


StrongAxe good point, another sad fact of welfare is those who receive (and want to stay on welfare) band together finding every loophole within welfare system, if they get a minimum wage job they find every way to get out of it and back on welfare. Why? as many welfare receivers will tell you "why would I want to work for 40 hours a week at Walmart and receive $100.00 or so more a week to perform work and wait on customers when I can sit at home all day doing nothing hanging out with my welfare friends" welfare encourages squalor, a lack mindset, and lazy people. The welfare system was designed to keep people enslaved, without hope, and living in despair
---Follower_of_Christ on 11/9/12


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Jed:

Unfortunately, the welfare system in this country is skewed to make it very hard to get out of. If you start to earn money, you get that much less from public assistance - so you work extra hours to get the same amount. Plus, if you earn over a certain small amount, you lose free health care as well. So the people at the bottom of the ladder make out OK, and the people a fair way up the ladder, who have full-time jobs with benefits are also OK, but there is a large gap in the ladder in the middle that is very hard to climb up past. There are many people who just cannot afford to work, because they would lose health care for their children by doing so.
---StrongAxe on 11/8/12


\\My main concern is GOD. Not people\\

God's main concern IS people.

In fact, God is so concerned about people that He invented them to start with.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/7/12


Pat: You seem to have forgotten the Second Great Commandment, "Love your neighbor as yourself."

Also, have you forgotten the story of the Good Samaritan?

Both are in the Bible as well.
---Trish on 11/5/12


God has spoken: "Your main concern should be Me", saith the Lord thy God. And Respect Me. And "I love those who loves Me". It's Bible folks. The hypocrites, they don't know God. True Christianity, means the living God lives in the individual. It is the unbelieving believers who is messing up the only true religion>>>Christianity. STOP MESSING!+++
---pat on 11/5/12


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//My main concern is GOD. Not people. Obey Him.//

But God is in the PEOPLE business. God is LOVE.
---Scott1 on 11/5/12


Pat,
Your idea of Christianity is skewed because the God of the Bible and his son Jesus was concerned about people. BTW the same is required of the Christian.
---pg1 on 11/5/12


Jed: What definition for welfare are you using? Are you referring to cash assistance to parents of children?In the past, you have used a broader definition for welfare, including Social Security Disability, Food Stamps and Medicaid. The law specifically is in reference to Cash Assistance to needy families, meaning a parent with a child, or children.

As for those on cash assistance who don't work, I only learned that only a small percentage of people even worked when it was posted here, and that dates back to the Bush administration's handling of Welfare.
---Trish on 11/5/12


The victims of Sandy, should turn to God. My God is BIG, and POWERFUL. People abuse Him. My main concern is GOD. Not people. Obey Him.
---pat on 11/5/12


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Trish, those changes were made by Obama. Are you really that ignorant to believe that there are not people on welfare who do not work? I have seen thousands of people on welfare who do not do a single thing to lift a finger in my career. What planet are you living on? BTW "training" for work is not working. It does nothing to give back to society.
---Jed on 11/5/12


Jed: What source did you use for your supposed accusations about the change in the work requirements? Also, were those changes made by the states or the current administration?

Oh, and if I can't use MSNBC, you can't use Fox.
---Trish on 11/4/12


Jed: Here is a quote from Secretary Sebeluis regarding your misinformed accusation regarding what qualifies as work. She said this in reference to the states' requirements to document what types of things would and would not qualify as work.

The department will not approve a waiver that changes the definition of work requirements to include any of the activities outlined in a 2005 [Government Accountability Office] report on [welfare programs] such as personal care activities, massage, and journaling, Sebelius wrote.

You really need to find another news source, Jed. You are constantly making claims that are disproven time and time again.
---Trish on 11/4/12


Jed: I am not stupid, and I am tired of you implying otherwise. I only use reputable news sources.

When I studied the current system in graduate school, I was taught by my professors and classmates who worked in the system, that in order to receive cash assistance the person had to either work or be in training to make them employable. You can check with the government's website to see I am telling the truth.

As for the change in the work requirement, I have repeatedly heard and read that if a governor of a state requested control of that aspect of the requirements, because they know their state better than Washington does, they were given that control. And your precious Romney was one who requested it.
---Trish on 11/4/12


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Jed: I did not get my information on MSNBC. I got it online, and I don't remember the source. -Trish on 11/4/12

PLEASE, Please tell me you're not actually that stupid! You read it somewhere online and that makes it absolutely true? Wow.

So, why weren't you screaming bloody murder during the Bush administration for not enforcing the work requirement? -Trish on 11/4/12
I was. I'm against redistribution no matter who's in office. Redistirbution remains a liberal idea no matter who's in office. The corruption and abuse of the welfare system is a result of liberal policies. Bush did not change the work requirement to include going to the spa, running errands for friends, going to school, or exercizing.
---Jed on 11/4/12


Jed: I did not get my information on MSNBC. I got it online, and I don't remember the source. If you had read Kathr's post, she already said that prior to Obama taking office, NOT ALL of the people on cash assistance were working. I do know that obtaining training in a skill that makes one employable fulfilled that requirement. So, why weren't you screaming bloody murder during the Bush administration for not enforcing the work requirement?
---Trish on 11/4/12


Trish, here is the part that MSNBC didn't tell you. Obama broadened the definition of "work" to include things like helping a friend with errands or getting a relaxating massage. Now silly non-work things like such can now fulfill the work requirement for welfare, effectively removing the work requirement.
---Jed on 11/4/12


1st cliff. We also have inter-generational welfare dependency in Australia. And it's the liberals who always argue to maintain this.

In Australia we had a politician who raised concerns about how welfare was damaging Aborigines. She argued they should be working, independent and having self-esteem.
Of course the liberal/Left politicians, media, Aboriginal activists, etc all accused her of racism (typical liberal method of public debate).

BUT some months later an Aboriginal made the same point as that politician, and he was hailed by the liberals as a wonderful, insightful man.

Such is the hypocrisy and deceit of the liberals. Their claim of being compassionate is merely deceitful propaganda for selfish political gain.
---Haz27 on 11/3/12


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Jed: The Department of Welfare, and Obama DID NOT TAKE AWAY THE WORK REQUIREMENT. They got multiple requests from governors across the country, including Mitt Romney, to allow each state that wished to manage their own states' work requirements. This request was from the governors who did not wish to do away with the requirement, just for each state that wanted more autonomy. Even your precious Mitt made that request.

The work requirement is still in effect, SO STOP SPREADING YOUR EVIL LIES, JED.
---Trish on 11/3/12


WHOA Francis, What are you talking about? Nothing I said had anything to do with what you just ranted about. I'm not sure if you got me mixed up with someone else but I didn't say anything about government aid for Hurricane Sandy. You need to check your attitude.
---Jed on 11/3/12


--Jed SHUT UP!!!!
Do you realy think that the only help that people need is from the church or thier neighbours?
In a case like Sandy can the church provide trained first responders, emergency care, the food and medical aide that is now needed? Have you considered that even those in the church at this time are in need?

You and your selfish republican friends give God and christainity a bad name.

Do you really think that people in need care whether thier help comes from the federal, state or local governmenmt. Do you really think they care if it comes from the church

again i urge you to SHUT UP!!
---francis on 11/2/12


Hi guys if you need volunteer kindly update me.
---Ariel_L._Laforteza on 11/3/12


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A Mitt Romney TV ad claims the Obama administration has adopted a plan to gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements. The plan does neither of those things.

Work requirements are not simply being dropped. States may now change the requirements revising, adding or eliminating them as part of a federally approved state-specific plan to increase job placement.
And it wont gut the 1996 law to ease the requirement. Benefits still wont be paid beyond an allotted time, whether the recipient is working or not.
The law never required all welfare recipients to work. Only 29 percent of those receiving cash assistance met the work requirement by the time President Obama took office.
---kathr4453 on 11/3/12


The Welfare Reform Act, signed during the Clinton Administration requires that recipients of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or welfare, either work or be in certain training to be able to work. It's the law already.
---Trish on 11/1/12

No, that WAS the law. Barack Obama did away with the work requirement for welfare recipients. Trish, where have you been the last 4 years? What? They didn't mention that fact on MSNBC?
---Jed on 11/2/12


Trish, Thanks for your info, I guess I should have mentioed I'm Canadian and our government hasn't the guts to amend the law!(might loose a few votes) As a consequence ,we have 2nd and 3rd generations on welfare ,and become a way of life for some.
Single girls who have several children have it made since the Gov.supports the kids 'till they're out of school!
No need to worry about medical bankrupsies (we have social medicare).
We have "food banks" for the hungry, they line up at the door, smoking and talking on their cell phones!
I am only sympathetic for the disabled and the chalenged,the rest can work!

---1st_cliff on 11/2/12


Mike. My apologies if I misunderstood your point, although your posts focused so much on wealth that I would think others also thought like I did.

BTW, I'm in Australia and I don't know who Pat Robertson is nor what he said.
BUT, your criticisms of Pat and Fox, etc whilst you praise the deceitful/corrupt liberals like 60 Minutes and Obama, etc is a contradiction.

Both sides of politics are bad and the liberal/Left are the greater of the 2 evils. Your political loyalty is misguided. Trust God instead of deceitful politicians and the media (of both sides of politics).



---Haz27 on 11/2/12


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haz

is wealth what I am talking about? I am talking about Pat robertson's yearly wrath or some stupid punishment bec. of the liberals...
911 was caused by the liberals, gays
god punished israeli PM with a stroke..
god punished haiti with earthquake..
god punish people for their sins..
what did pat robertson say about wall st. greed? NOTHING...
some of you christians have dementia when you are rebuked..you got the spin from fox news
---mike on 11/2/12


Cliff: The Welfare Reform Act, signed during the Clinton Administration requires that recipients of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or welfare, either work or be in certain training to be able to work. It's the law already.

Also, Cash Assistance has a five year lifetime limit.

Where did you get the idea that it had not passed.
---Trish on 11/1/12


That's life Shira, Some work hard and succeed others don't.
We have 2nd and 3rd generations on welfare,to some it's a way of life,drop-outs and the do-gooders come to their rescue.
Jesus said "if they don't want to work,neither let them eat".
Most time and effort is spent on helping the homeless than solving the problem!
Soon as someone suggests "work for welfare" the "Union" movement gets involved and that idea is shelved!
Only the Kingdom will solve all the problems!
---1st_cliff on 11/1/12


Mike, you condemn the likes of Job because he was wealthy.
You obsess over the liberal cause in politics almost as bad as NurseRobert, who only ever seems to talk about politics on CN.
Obama has nothing to offer in your placing your trust in him. He's just another typically deceitful politician who will try to take advantage of the disaster caused by Sandy to try to win votes. Our politicians in Australia did the same 2 years ago with the floods.

Trust God instead of man.
---Haz27 on 11/1/12


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jed

the poor woman in the bible gave all she has...while the rich man in lazarus enjoy his money...
---mike on 11/1/12


To Pat,great prayer! spirit of love,honor for our God. Me thinks you are right.you definitely,have a gift! Bless you! Love of JESUS!
---ELENA on 11/1/12


Here is a prayer>> That our leaders will stop shaking their fists at my God! Before it's too late.++
---pat on 10/31/12


God used the rich man as an example. I have a friend who along with her husband owns a car dealership. they are very wealthy and the couple is not selfish but I also know some who are wealthy and selfish. Look at the Kennedys, they were very wealthy and yet all were unhappy but they kept making money and making money. Many of them died young. I guess God knows if I was rich I would give most of it away to help spread the gospel. being rich or poor we all have a choice and some fall into a pit and come back rich while others work work work and have nothing.
---shira4368 on 11/1/12


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Mike, Let me break it down for you like a kid. I did not say that no rich people are greedy. I said that there is no correlation between how wealthy you are and how greedy you are. Your suggestion that rich people are more greedy is plain ignorance. Most poor people would have also given themselves bonuses from the bailout if they had the opportunity. To think otherwise is just plain stupidity. The poor have the same greed level as the rich, just on a different monetary level because they have less. When was the last time you donated 14% of your income to charity over and above your taxes like Mitt Romney does every year? To the average person that would only be about 8 thousand dollars but I doubt you do that every year.
---Jed on 10/31/12


The real Christ prayed, John 17:9-10 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.
And all mine are thine, and thine are mine, and I am glorified in them.
---J_Marc on 10/31/12


" I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Luke 13:3,5

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness, Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them, for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened."
Romans 1:18-21
---christan on 10/31/12


really jed? oh what happened to the bailout in 08? many CEOs gave themselves bonuses...i guess you are a cafeteria christian seeing that godliness results in monetary gain, and by the way I guess christ is has sin when he said to the pharisees that 'you love your title & your money'...
---mike on 10/31/12


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Quick thanks! J.Mark,had not seen until now,thanks, moderator. Lord God,once again we make our requests known,here ever be enough prayer? we love you.you are awesome, in life we will share sorrows, we the loss of love ones,we share your grieveing,for who now sleep,we ask forgive Lord,if we as a nation, a people have offend. You,we cannot know..but, beg your grace, be mercifull,restore homes,give food,people" help get back on their feet" many are who will.not have ajob,building gone, blow afresh on them,new and better job! Restore their trust in you! Some are as little babies, do not Know you God,you took away all JOB had but gave back, better. He was tested,found true.help us,be too! Thanks for all ' going to do. Amen.
---ELENA on 10/30/12


Please,dear JESUS,be protect one from another,put a prayer on here,but,forgot this part.Don't let the. evil. ones take advantage of already bad situation.thankyou, god my neighbors are up,but seemimgly calm, please protect all the,sick and
elderly people who depend.on you as I do,you are my cloud of fire by day where I walk,my strong. Tower at night while I sleep. Amen. Thankyou ,JESUS!
---ELENA on 10/31/12


you will NOT hear 'wall st. greed is the reason why god is sending a hurricane as a punishment on the US.' as I read in one of comments Pat robertson is worshipping the almighty dollar... ---mike on 10/30/12

There is absolutely no correlation between how much money you have and how greedy you are. The poor are just as greedy as the rich. Just because a person has money doesn't mean they are greedy. I actually find the opposite to usually be true. Most wealthy people I know are rather generous with their money, while many poor people I know won't lift a finger to help anyone.
Condemning people because they have more money than you and coveting what they have is the ultimate act of greed.
---Jed on 10/31/12


Sadly, politicians, being the opportunists they are, will try to use disasters to help them win elections.

We saw this in the state of Queensland, Australia. The liberal/Left government (the ALP) was hoping to go to an early election to take advantage of the positive sentiment raised by the help given to flood victims.
Unfortunately for that ALP state government, the conservatives put forward a leader who was formerly the Mayor of the city and well liked because of his efforts in helping flood victims too.

The outcome was that the ALP state government did not have the early election after all because they lost the advantage of having an opportunistic edge over their conservative opponents.
That's politics for you.
---Haz27 on 10/30/12


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//so where is Pat robertson making his 'god is sending a hurricane as a punishment bec. of the liberals' statements//

idk...but you can be sure that he is not with the liberals in va and dc.
---aka on 10/30/12


Lord
I pray that you would make all those affected by the storm aware of your presence. Give them what they need to survive during these difficult times. Give the first responders strength and courage to needed to help others.
---pg1 on 10/30/12


my son drives a car hauler from the port in Ga to texas and then to the northeast. He was in cleveland, Oh last night and loaded again for fla. He is in the driving rain and ice. I pray he will be safe.
---shira4368 on 10/30/12


I just heard from my cousin in Ohio and they have had 65 miles an hour winds from the storm. Added to that a front from the west was hit by the storm when they met and caused snow and icy conditions in Toledo and Ohio in general. May God move in the behalf of those poor people.
---Darlene_1 on 10/30/12


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so where is Pat robertson making his 'god is sending a hurricane as a punishment bec. of the liberals' statements?
but you will NOT hear 'wall st. greed is the reason why god is sending a hurricane as a punishment on the US.' as I read in one of comments Pat robertson is worshipping the almighty dollar...


---mike on 10/30/12


Yes,I just ask the same on Nov. Whats Up,Trish is with out eletricity but does have gas cooking stove. Blessings and prayers for all in that situation.
---Darlene_1 on 10/30/12


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