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I Shall Not Want

Psalms 23:1b --- I shall not want. Where would our global economy be if we practiced and taught that this holiday season?

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Christ's teachings about "I shall not want", Matt 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
---J_Marc on 12/4/12


Marc 2: want to know why? Because God's plan involves calling many, but few are chosen (Matt. 15:16). Jesus said,
"You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you" (John 15:16) The disciples did not understand His parables or His proverbs.
"These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs, but the time comes when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall show you planly of the Father" (John 16:25). The disciples did not understand Jesus, "They understood not that saying, and were many times afraid to ask Him" (Mark 9:32) After Jesus glorification they remembered that these things were written of Him. If you had studied the Word with the right intention, you would know.
---Mark_V. on 12/4/12


Marc, Jesus never wanted to make His message clear. Even His disciples did not understand them. They asked Jesus to explain the parables.
"And He said unto them, unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God, but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables, that seeing they may see, and not perceive: and hearing they may hear, and not understand," now listen to this part,
"lest at any time they should be converted and their sins should be forgiven them" "lest" those converted and forgiven understand the parables. These tells us that Jesus didn't want them to understand the parable and He didn't want to convert them and He didn't want to save them.
---Mark_V. on 12/4/12


MarkV: "Only believers should understand the parables."

Oxford Dictionary:'A narrative of imagined events used to convey a moral or spiritual lesson.'

Similarly, from the Greek, it's a symbol of something bigger given for someone TO UNDERSTAND.

Logically,if Jesus didn't want people to know, he would've kept silent. Logically, if the disciples understood parables Jesus wouldn't have said "Do you not understand this parable?".

No, Mark, you have almost no understanding and cherry-pick your verses. The key verse is Mark 4:2 in which the writer says that Jesus "taught [the multitude] many things by parables". You get it? He taught them.
---Marc on 12/3/12


Marc V, sorry typo, not perfect yet!John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. Where in the Bible is the command ot observe the birthday of Christ?
---J_Marc on 12/3/12




// We are born of the Spirit, we can never stop worshipping the Lord no matter day it is. [AMEN!!!] I ask, should we stop worshipping Christ on the 25th because someone else worships another deity on that day?// NEVER stop the worship of the real Christ! 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
---J_Marc on 12/3/12


Bro. J. Marc, you don't believe in celebrating the birth of Christ on that day, because heathens worship other deities on that day. But you are born of the Spirit and don't worship other deities. But if your conscience tells you not to, don't go against your conscience. What might be sin to you might not be sin for someone else. To celebrate and to worship are two different things. We are born of the Spirit, we can never stop worshipping the Lord no matter day it is. I ask, should we stop worshipping Christ on the 25th because someone else worships another deity on that day? Do they get preference over us? How can it be evil to worship Christ on the 25th, or 26, whatever day? How many days do the other deities have that we cannot worship on?
---Mark_V. on 12/3/12


//Psalms 23:1b --- I shall not want//

Who is speaking,to whom are they speaking?
God is speaking to Israel, if they had accepted Him. what would they want for?

Matt.21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do,
---michael_e on 12/2/12


toot,toot,??shira4368 on 11/29/12 you said//If I had the money I have given to help someone else I would be rich.// " toot" to Paul too! ? 2nd Corinthians 11:21-23
I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak foolishly,) I am bold also.

Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.

Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more, in
LABOURS more ABUNDANT, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
---J_Marc on 12/2/12


Sis. Rita, I totally agree as does Char what the words "I shall not want" mean. We know that the Lord will supply all our needs, many still depend on themselves as believers.
Now as believers we always want to help others who are in great need. God provides those needs through His direct work, or He influences believers to help by putting a burden on them so they can help.
Unbelievers do not believe in that passage, that God will supply all our needs. Our faith should always be on God, because man always fail.
---Mark_V. on 12/2/12




Shira "toot, toot" Not bragging, just telling the truth.
Bro Mark V, Peace. I know you didn't say I'm a fake, others have.
People all my life called Xmas good, i discovered it was evil! In Acts 19 Paul had to confront Demetrius who made and sold shrines of Dianna (a deamon god) at a great profit. HE took many Ephesians away from the ecomonic trade that surrounded pagan observances! An uproar happened when Christians repented & the merchandising of Dianna suffered! Acts 20:21 Repentance was taught to the Ephesians.Repentance of pagan practices!
---J_Marc on 12/2/12


Shortened for 125...

//The word 'want' here does not mean 'desire'. It is not the same as saying 'I want' or 'I would like'. It refers to us never being in need because God supplies our every need[...]---Rita_H on 11/28/12//----

I agree.

We may have no lack...

Phil 4:19
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Eph 3:16-21(all)

Shalom
---char on 12/1/12


toot, toot, toot, who is that blowing their own horn?? I had the chance to be a blessing this week but I haven't told anyone except my pastor. When God blesses me I am happy. I have given away lots of money because God has given me lots. guess I will keep doing that until the day I will be gone from this earth.
---shira4368 on 12/1/12


Bro. J, Marc, you lost me. I never said you were a fake or not a Christian. You have every right not to celebrate the birth of Christ, just like others have a right to celebrate it. No one is right or wrong. All is in the plan of God. We know people because of sin profit from Christmas, make millions, but we also know many are helped because of it. God turns bad into good no matter the situation. Many get jobs they never had. Other put food on their tables, children learn about the birth of Christ. The holidays is hard on many who have lost a love one, but we get together to take each others burdens. Pagans an heathens can do what they want, we do what we want. They worship another diety, we worship Christ. That was all, peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 12/1/12


To The Glory of the real Christ, i gave away 2 cars, spent 20 years of going into homeless peoples camps, & telling them to repent of smoking crack,visited them in prison [ until one of them tryed to choak me, then my wife & the police asked me to stop!], read the Bible to a blind Vietnam vet, kept 8 people in my home [ one was my sweet Grandma that had altzemers!} i cast down all of it to the real God, YA And his only begotten son, Yashua! sorry i am not a fake & i don't lie!
---J_Marc on 11/30/12


Bro. J. Marc, now I know why you said what you did, though I do not agree with you at all. You gave Act 19: concerning Demetrius, he was not even a believer. How can you compare him with genuine believers? He worship the godess Diana. They worshipped another deity. Believers worship the Lord Jesus Christ. What you are suggesting is that genuine believers are pagans and heathens because they worship another deity. Which is not true at all. They celebrate the birth of Christ. If Christians were worshipping another deity, then you would be right. But they don't. Just because heathens and pagans have the same day, does not mean they have the same deity. If those who call themselves Christians worship another deity, they should repent.
---Mark_V. on 11/30/12


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Bro. Mark_V.//(Isaiah 5:20)How does that passage have to do with anything we talked about? Who is calling evil good, and good evil?// People all my life called Xmas good, i discovered it was evil! In Acts 19 Paul had to confront Demetrius who made and sold shrines of Dianna (a deamon god) at a great profit. HE took many Ephesians away from the ecomonic trade that surrounded pagan observances! An uproar happened when Christians repented & the merchandising of Dianna suffered! Acts 20:21 Repentance was taught to the Ephesians.Repentance of pagan practices!
---J_Marc on 11/30/12


Bro. J. Marc, you gave (Isaiah 5:20) and I read it. How does that passage have to do with anything we talked about? Who is calling evil good, and good evil? I don't understand your passage. Can you explain? Maybe I am missing something. Peace
---Mark_V. on 11/30/12


last night O'Reilly had an athiest on his program who hates christians and wants to get rid of anything Christ-like. wow, Bill O'Reilly got unglued defending christmas. I just wish athiest would crawl back in the hole they came out of. they need to leave christians alone.
---shira4368 on 11/29/12


Mark_V. Peace & thanks!
//All has a purpose, that's what I meant.// Agreed!
// He knew there would be a day which many would honor the birth of Christ. He allowed it// agreed! Yet,i must be obedient to the word! God willed it, i could not!i REPENTED of it when i really started studing the bible! Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
---J_Marc on 11/29/12


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Bro. J. Marc, I don't go away from what I believe so I try to answer that way. God created a plan, and everything that happens is by His authority. Every person in position is by authority of God. Every person who is evil, is by God's authority or permission. Christians should not be legalistic because it only effects them. There is many things wrong but God knew they would be wrong and still allowed them to happen. He knew there would be a day which many would honor the birth of Christ. He allowed it, or permitted it. He knew that if toys were given, many would profit. Children would be happy, people who build the toys would get jobs, Christains with a just heart would help others in their time of need. All has a purpose, that's what I meant.
---Mark_V. on 11/29/12


jmarc,If I had the money I have given to help someone else I would be rich. since you don't know me I can say that here. Since God has given me everything I need i try to help others. I am currently trying to get the money up to buy a precious couple at church a vehicle. they are almost 80 yrs old with 5 sons and all the sons don't care. their car is over 20 years old with no brakes. you could help me pray that I can get the money together to help them.
---shira4368 on 11/29/12


Bro Mark V,//The "holidays"?? is a good time[any!} where many can give to those who have less then we do. We can do away with trees and boxes of toys, but not with the giving if we can,[AMEN!] and receiving,[only need!] if someone is willing to help. When we become "legalistic"??, it effects many areas of our lives.// i must be saved legally i'm not LAWLESS! Because of lawlessnes the love of many has grown cold!
---J_Marc on 11/28/12


Phil, the four sentences before (2 Cor. 5:117) are correct for believers only. you also gave,

"If anyone is in Christ there is a new creation: the primitive passed by. Lo! There has come new! (2 Cor.5:17)."

The word is "if" only if you are in Christ you are a new creation. If you are not, no change has happened in your heart by God. you are the same old child of wrath. Doing the desires of your father the enemy.
There is a division of man, from (Gen. 3:15). The children of God and the children of Satan.
---Mark_V. on 11/28/12


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"For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." Do you understand that?
---Mark_V. on 11/27/12

It is about death, first and foremost His death.

Then, it is about our death, crucified with Him.

We, then, were entombed together with Him through baptism into death.

We were crucified together with Him, that the body of Sin may be nullified.

If anyone is in Christ there is a new creation: the primitive passed by. Lo! There has come new! (2 Cor.5:17).

Failure to put on the new humanity feeds the man of Romans 3. You and I have rotting flesh. Death is the only escape.

What shall deliver us from this paradox?
---Phil on 11/28/12


The word 'want' here does not mean 'desire'. It is not the same as saying 'I want' or 'I would like'. It refers to us never being in need because God supplies our every need.

"The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall never be in need" is what the Psalmist is saying. The Psalm then goes on to mention the various ways in which God takes care of us and supplies our needs.
---Rita_H on 11/28/12


Bro. J. Marc, thank you for responding. I was sure that "I shall not want" had nothing to do with gifts of Christmas but I see why you wrote it in the first place. I agree, receiving gifts or even giving them should have no bearing in the Christian life.
We should be kind to one another and I guess if you give money to someone in need during the holidays or clothes, or help them rebuild their homes or things broken, it should not be considered wrong. The holidays is a good time where many can give to those who have less then we do. We can do away with trees and boxes of toys, but not with the giving if we can, and receiving, if someone is willing to help. When we become legalistic, it effects many areas of our lives.
---Mark_V. on 11/28/12


//If you mean "we should not want" as if talking about gifts then you don't need// If we were taught needs rather than want the economy would suffer! Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Sorry, i don't see christmas as a good thing! i was taught the greed,covetousness,and meteralism of this pagan holiday wraped in "christian" paper! i was deceived from the get go!
---J_Marc on 11/27/12


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Phil, I finally figured out why you are all over the place with your theologies. I said:
"Here is what the word of God says concerning those who are lost (Rom. 3:10,11).
---Mark_V. on 11/26/12"
and you said:

"This statement by Paul is an indictment of all of humanity. No one group was singled out."

It must be your indictment not mine or any believer. I have understanding of God. I seek God. You are putting yourself with the lost.
All do fall short of the glory of God. But not all seek after God. Not all understand.
"For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." Do you understand that?
---Mark_V. on 11/27/12


Bro. J. Marc, I don't know how David's testimony to the Lord's faithfulness (Psa. 23:1b) can be reconcile by your question. It is David's testimony where he progressively unveils his personal relationship with the Lord. It gives first his exclamation,
The Lord is my Shepherd. Then it gives David's expectations, "I shall not want" and "I will fear no evil."
Where would our global economy be if we practiced and taught that this holiday season? I really don't know how it could effect the holiday season. If you mean "we should not want" as if talking about gifts then you don't need (Psalm 23:1b)
---Mark_V. on 11/27/12


Here is what the word of God says concerning those who are lost (Rom. 3:10,11).
---Mark_V. on 11/26/12

This statement by Paul is an indictment of all of humanity. No one group was singled out.

Ro 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God,

As corruptible and irredeemable creatures made of flesh, which include you and I, we are judged unfit for His heavenly sonship.

It is only a new creation which can enter into fellowship with the Father.

The body of Christ is the firstfruit of that creation.
---Phil on 11/26/12


JMarc, congratulations, you are very good at "inquiring" and wondering about things (and attempting to change the subject when you have no decent, reasonable, and intelligent reply to the topic).

....but you need not be embarrassed, the whole body of Christ should be embarrassed about falling prey to these simplistic and blatant lies that clearly violate scripture (for thousands of years),....at least you are self-conscious about it.
---more_excellent_way on 11/26/12


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i'm still inquiring,Where would our global economy be if we practiced and taught,Psa 23 "I shall not want" this holiday season? What has all the greed,covetousness,and meteralism of this holiday season lead us?
---J_Marc on 11/26/12


More excellent, here is what you said,

"Mark, I KNOW that you have the ABILITY to understand, but notice the word "REFUSED" in verse 10 and also "all WICKED deception" (ABILITY to understand depends on WILLINGNESS to understand)."

Here is what the word of God says concerning those who are lost:
"As it is written:
There is none righteous, no, not one,
There is none who understands,
There is none who seeks after God"
(Rom. 3:10,11).
They do not have the ability to understand. Not because they are not willing, but because they are not able. They need a supernatural act of God to understand, and be willing to seek after God.
---Mark_V. on 11/26/12


Mark, I KNOW that you have the ABILITY to understand, but notice the word "REFUSED" in verse 10 and also "all WICKED deception" (ABILITY to understand depends on WILLINGNESS to understand).


Just like everything that He who "inhabits eternity" (Isaiah 57:15) has done since "before the foundation of the world" (1 Peter 1:20, Ephesians 1:4), God sent a STRONG delusion (when GOD makes something strong, it is SUPER STRONG). God's reaction to betrayal is "MYSELF" (Ezekiel 14:4).

Does "BIBLE" being thought of as "word of God"/'written' word qualify as 'GOD strong'?.

"Truth" is not for the faint of heart, it is often uncomfortable.
---more_excellent_way on 11/25/12


Phil, if you were against a poorly translated version of the Bible, why didn't you say that? Why not tell everyone which one? It would have been very simple. What you have questioned is the words used in Scripture when it helps you only. I heard many here question the answers they are given, and come out with the same answers you do. Hell does not mean hell, lake of fire is really not the lake of fire, everlasting is really not everlasting. Everything is all made up to fool people who don't believe as you do. Others say, the Bible is satan's work. And yet others say, the Church is satan's work. You guys come out with every excuse you can think of.
---Mark_V. on 11/25/12


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In case anyone ever had the wrong impression, I never make an effort to CONVINCE people against their will (classroom teachers and tutors do that because they get PAID,...I am not a teacher, I am not selling anything). If you don't have a burning desire to understand TRUTH, I don't have a burning desire to explain what is SELF-EXPLANATORY.

Every believer should have the goal of being a SON OF GOD to Abba FATHER and receiving an INHERITANCE, but the teachers of "Christianity" never taught 'purification of the CONSCIENCE' (only purification of the FLESH is taught).

2 Thessalonians 2:10

"and with all wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth AND SO BE SAVED".
---more_excellent_way on 11/25/12


---Mark_V. on 11/24/12 "Phil, your support against the Bible is well known."

One person does not a multitude make, Mark.

You may have others in your corner defending you, but even a casual perusal of my responses of the past will obviate your intent to invoke prejudice against me.

It is a tactic of losers in debates to detract from their opponents through accustions like yours above.

I am not against the Scriptures. Christ revealed Himself in us through those Scriptures.

I am against poorly translated versions.

God recorded His truths in three languages, none of them English.

I resort to the Originals in matters of faith.

Those seeking truth will see and understand.
---Phil on 11/24/12


More Excellent, again, to proof you are right concerning what you say of man, you use the very word of God, the Bible, when you give (Eph. 1:13). If you had not read that passage which says, you trusted in Christ after you read the gospel of your salvation, "read" the gospel of your salvation. You learned that from the word of truth, the Bible. And you say, that it is not of God. That is why I questioned what you said. I believe enough has been said concerning your statement.
---Mark_V. on 11/24/12


Bro.Mark all this both.are discussing here sounds alot like ex- friend of mine who got into the transendental meditation, new age close to it.Yes, they too " God is in me & they are in God.." trick of the enemy to get us off from the true Lord and Saviour.Well, I tell you I spent about 4 hours study my bible early and glad this got me get Into my bible seriously.Had friends who got off into this and just doing tbey own thing and not christian
Not living for God.1john 2:4,Titus1:16,2Tim.3 :5,Rom10:2-3
Obedience is the highest form of faith & love for the lord.Jn:13:17,1John1:7
Keep teaching bro.Mark. in JESUS name.Amen.
.
---ELENA on 11/24/12


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The human being is prone to IMPERFECTION (evil). Satan can only TEMPT us to do his bidding/'wickedness' (there is no such thing as 'possession' without a person allowing/enabling it unaware). The "flesh" is a weakness.
Humanity is prone to imperfection and has always carelessly sought to re-connect/reunite with the creator by using money and idol worship habits.
It is the teachers, translators and all the irresponsible worshipers throughout history that are responsible for scripture being known as the "word of God" instead of the "word of truth".
Ephesians 1:13 "the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation...sealed with the promised Holy Spirit".
2 Timothy2:15 "rightly handling".
---more_excellent_way on 11/24/12


Phil, your support against the Bible is well known. The Bible is wrong, so you are always right.
Here, "faith comes from hearing, hearing from the word of God" While we don't have the original manuscripts, All Scripture is God-breath" No old Testament prophet, nor Jesus Christ, nor any New Testament writer gives any support for the idea that the portions of Scripture having to do with space-time events contain errors. Had Scripture originated with man, then cultural conditioning and human error would certainly be a factor. However, Scripture affirms that "prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:21).
---Mark_V. on 11/24/12


We are led by the Spirit, not what we read. Its the meaning that will be revealed that is inspired, not just words.
---duane on 11/23/12


---more_excellent_way on 11/20/12

I believe you have a healthy scepticism of the Versions. You understand the problem.

The Bibles we have are interpretations and translations of the original manuscripts. They are not inspired.

Most were formulated as aids to study what God has revealed to us. Other than a smattering of reprobate individuals, I think most translators had good intentions.

I believe demonic influences have found access through the errors in them.

That the Modern versions are flawed is admitted by most who understand translation principles.

That "SATAN encouraged humanity" to form them, or is it his device, does not bear up under scrutiny.
---Phil on 11/23/12


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More exc, your argument was:
"SATAN encouraged humanity to call scripture "BIBLE" and to use "bible" to imprison ourselves in darkness by using rules to hide God's LIBERTY law from ourself."

You conclude that the written word of God imprisons us, and that Satan is behind it all. Something very anti-christ. The written Word of God is truth. Without it you have no salvation. No knowledge of God. The Spirit reveals the written word of God to us. We know who the Word is, through the written Word of God. And you say Satan is behind it all. Now that is garbish. No one was comparing the Written Word to the Word Himself. The Written Word of God brings faith. How can Satan be behind it?
---Mark_V. on 11/23/12


Mark, in your last reply to my message, you did not disagree that Jesus is the "word of God", therefore you agree that "Jesus Himself is the word of God"...this is true and I agree with your conclusion that Jesus is not the bible or any manner of text.

I thought you might have realized that when I clearly showed that very same fact.
---more_excellent_way on 11/22/12


More Exc, you are losing the point. You said,
" since JESUS HIMSELF is the "WORD OF GOD" and He never became "paper and ink", there can be no "written word" (The Lord illustrates that there is a difference, 2 John 1:12)."
Who ever said Jesus became paper and ink? No one. But we know by the written Word the Bible who He is.
(2 John 1:12) John is not arguing concerning Jesus not been paper and ink. He was saying that instead of writing to them many things he wanted to tell them, he had hope he would see them instead in person. That was all. Nothing to do with Jesus becoming paper and ink.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/12


Hello,Mark thankyou, I just know that same doctrine even 2 chchurches here yes they do not pray, they do alot of "self glory". I just know it' a false doctrine.I have been bible study CNT offers make it real simple.church got weird.spoke in private with the pastors.They told me same like Ex.Way. they got their own way.The bible say there a way that seem right but leadth to destruction.How many times have my own way and cause heartache? Too many times. You MarkV. You are a bible scholar you live you stydy faithfully..how can a person be a beleiver and not pray or read the bible? You going go off from God at some point.It biblical & logical.To me Ex.way could have good intentions.but if you no pray no bible .Scary to me.
---ELENA on 11/22/12


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Well, excellanteway, you may have good intentions, but I have been to 2 churches believe the same doctrine.2Tim.4:4,Ro.12:2 ,2Rom2:2./ 2Tim.3:16.all scripture is given by inspiration of God and profitable for doctrine,reproof,correction in righteous.2Th.2:3. my commune with God that my guide.Without Him my life Nothing.
---ELENA on 11/22/12


ELENA, you should already know that what I wrote is true, it is THE BASIS of worship.

Also, it is impossible to be a SON OF GOD if a person (including myself) claims to be EQUAL with God (WHY would you think "EQUAL"?).
I shouldn't have to tell you what book and chapter this quote is from....
"He who abides in me, and I in him,"

The ONLY genuine spiritual teacher is GOD HIMSELF, but you prefer those who do not have "eyes to see" (and so, neither can you have "eyes to see"....the "blind leading the blind")....WHAT OTHER TRUTHS does the body not want to accept?....I've been writing them for years.

This a very good example of how man misleads the body SEVERELY.
---more_excellent_way on 11/21/12


Mark V, you know very well that scripture is not the word of God.....the Gentiles did not glorify scripture, you know that!...If you insist that they did, clearly state why that verse means what you say it means.....oh, that's right, you never did explain ANYTHING about that, you just simply AVOIDED that verse!!!....and, of course you'll CONTINUE to do that (...typical!!).

Of course you also don't have the ability to understand the difference between the concept of "BIBLE" and scripture (satan's lies are "precept upon precept").
---more_excellent_way on 11/21/12


Sis. Elena, that was great what you said. Many do use words losely without thinking.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/12


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It came to me after reading this over & over..dangerous in my opinion when you say "god is inside of me & I am inside of god.." Eddie Long used to talk that back in 2003 used to watch faithfuly & Notice he git mire and more away from "Sound doctrine"bible speaks / teach in the last days.. false Christs wil be coming out with false doctrine of confussion and of devils, that exactly what.it was & still..So if you don't have any authority be it scripture. You have made yourself EQUAL with God. That is impossible.! That is a dangerous doctrine. You can not claim you got God and say the bible instilled backed by Satan..it just not washing... that all I got to say. ELENA
---ELENA on 11/21/12


This scripture from the Bible may be of help!Philippians 4:6 Be careful for nothing, but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

i'm still wondering,Where would our global economy be if we practiced and taught I shall not want this holiday season? Is christmas really a good thing? Where has all the greed,covetousness,and meteralism of this pagan holiday wraped in "christian" paper lead us?
---J_Marc on 11/21/12


More excellent, you wrote three posts (answers) and on all three contained passages from the Bible to support what you are saying. Then you turned around and said,

"SATAN encouraged humanity to call scripture "BIBLE" and to use "bible" to imprison ourselves in darkness by using rules to hide God's LIBERTY law from ourself."

If satan did that, why do you use the Bible to support what you are saying? There is no logic there. You either believe in the Word of God or you don't period. If you don't, then don't use the Bible to support your views. Why use something that you say satan is behind? Don't you understand that faith comes from hearing? And that hearing comes by the Word of God the Bible?
---Mark_V. on 11/21/12


"Scripture" is "inspired". "BIBLE" is MAN'S MISUSE of what God said. I'm not suggesting that a person NOT READ scripture. ALSO, since JESUS HIMSELF is the "WORD OF GOD" and He never became "paper and ink", there can be no "written word" (The Lord illustrates that there is a difference, 2 John 1:12).

SATAN encouraged humanity to call scripture "BIBLE" and to use "bible" to imprison ourselves in darkness by using rules to hide God's LIBERTY law from ourself.

I do not need to arrange 'communication sessions' with God, He is INSIDE OF ME and I'm inside of Him. I am in constant COMMUNION/fellowship with God (I don't need to have the specific INTENTION).
---more_excellent_way on 11/20/12


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Matthew 6:8 is ADVICE that all believers WOULD BE WISE to follow...

"Do not be LIKE THEM....".

The Lord said not to be like them (tell HIM that you disagree).
---more_excellent_way on 11/20/12


If you feel unsure that God might have forgotten that you are devoted to Him, you should....

...improve your relationship with Him (but in the meantime, always recite to Him verses 9 to 13 of Matthew 6).

Buddists and all idol worshipers perform "prayer" to the idols they worship (we should not imitate this activity called "prayer").....some things in scripture are not proper for a SPIRIT-FILLED Jesus devotion because some are MAMMON HABITS.

O.T. worship was filled with pagan habits, N.T. worship should not be.
---more_excellent_way on 11/20/12


Please don't think I am being out of order,excellant way but, I really want.to understand. How do you pray?.
I mean do you not pray at all? Or how
do you communiate with the lord? I have read your posts similar to now. I just am try to. understand what you mean. You say 'Religiosity' which you mean like " phony?" or too..conventional, boring...repeticious ??? In short.I pray myself mostly I beg the lord help me retain 'scriptures. 'open my mouth & bless the lord at all times,strength & dominion power.
Thankyou, if you reply. ELENA
---ELENA on 11/20/12


More excellent, you contradict what you say. You say:
"
The "BIBLE" (man's device) is like a prison, you can't learn freedom by using prison rules."

You advice other to not read the Bible, because it will put a yoke on you, then you say,

"N.T. "SCRIPTURE" (the word "bible" is not in scripture) is 2,000 years old and NOT an authority to believers. We must "abide in" the 'JESUS DOCTRINE/teaching ("doctrine of Christ" 2 John 1:9)"
And turn around and tell everyone to abide in the doctrine of Christ and give a Bible verse found in (2 John 1:9).
If they shouldn't read the Bible how would they find (2 John 1:9)?
Your not making sense.
---Mark_V. on 11/20/12


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more-excellent-way, are you attacking the bible? Without the written word of God how would we know the gospel, what Christ did and said, and what he accomplished?

Maybe I'm mistaken? Do you really believe the holy scriptures (the inspired written word of God) to be a prison?

Please correct me if I'm wrong about what you meant.
---trey on 11/20/12


The "BIBLE" (man's device) is like a prison,...you can't learn freedom by using prison rules.

N.T. "SCRIPTURE" (the word "bible" is not in scripture) is 2,000 years old and NOT an authority to believers. We must "abide in" the 'JESUS DOCTRINE/teaching ("doctrine of Christ" 2 John 1:9) and be devoted to THE WORD OF GOD that became flesh (the Gentiles that had been ordained to eternal life glorified JESUS).

Acts 13:38 "they were glad and glorified the word of God".

OUR WORSHIP (MODERN DEVOTION) should be done according to our own PRINCIPLES (idiosyncratic worship). Jesus told OTHER people 2,000 years ago to "pray" in order to "worship".
---more_excellent_way on 11/19/12


StrongAx ... you are correct-it hasn't happened in 2000 yrs,which is a very poor commentary on how serious Christians are in witnessing on a one-on-one level.
---wivv on 11/19/12


More excellent, you said,

"If we really are going to let The Lord's grace be sufficient for us, then we have to break the habit of always asking Him for things when we speak to Him"

You are asking the children of God not to ask God for anything. Is that not the opposite of what we should do as His children? We are to count, and depend on Him in everything. In fact our spiritual communication with the Lord increases. We have something the lost don't have. That connection with God. Even when our wants are not worthy, we get to have more time with God. I know people ask for dumb things, but God knows before we ask. He just wants us to count on Him in all things.
---Mark_V. on 11/19/12


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If we really are going to let The Lord's grace be sufficient for us, then we have to break the habit of always asking Him for things when we speak to Him.

Some children are never happy and will constantly be asking the parent to make them happy. The child has decided to be greedy and self-centered (attitudes that will affect the child's happiness forever as long as they have them).

God has been explicit in scripture that we should not have those attitudes FOR OUR OWN GOOD...and also for the good of others in our lives (in a true sense, God is the 'true humanitarian' that explains to us how to have true happiness and peace in life..."fully human"), but MAN has turned the whole meaning of God into 'RELIGIOSITY'.
---more_excellent_way on 11/18/12


altho I've failed the Lord, He has never failed me. He's been everything and more that He said He would be. that is part of a song I really love. Bro Craig Edwards wrote that song. I am blessed to call Bro. Craig a friend.
---shira4368 on 11/17/12


"After you remember Him with honor every day with The Lord's prayer, do you also remind Him of how He has failed you?." HE NEVER FAILED me! Here is the REAL LORD,S prayer!-John 17:8-9 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me, and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.John 17:15-17 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy TRUTH: thy word is TRUTH.
---J_Marc on 11/16/12


If you decide to let His grace be sufficient for you regardless of whether you approve of His decisions, then you will have nothing to ask Him for in "prayer".

My parents used to ask me what I wanted for Christmas, birthdays, etc., but I stood silent and confused about 'wanting something'. I was completely happy and comfortable (I didn't know "WANT"). The Lord would appreciate seeing that you also KNOW NOT "want", but He understands that we are like the people of 2,000 years ago that like to complain to Him by reminding Him of His failures of not pleasing us.

After you remember Him with honor every day with The Lord's prayer, do you also remind Him of how He has failed you?.
---more_excellent_way on 11/16/12


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"Why do you have two threads about the same subject?"The title of the other blogg was made "The Lord Is My Shepherd" The focus was intended to be, "i shall not want" however i was glad to study the issue in that way as well!Psalms 23:1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want.>>> Another shepard! 1st John 2:20 But ye have an unction (anointing) from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
---J_Marc on 11/16/12


well if we acted like God wants us to act, He would probably give us everything we want. the problem is we want "things" and never pray for spiritual things in our lives. I am a fundamentalist and I am the servant. I don't ask God for earthly things even tho He has supplied my every need. God has given me much more than I need and I am thankful.
---shira4368 on 11/15/12


wivv:

The very fact that this hasn't come anywhere near to happening yet, even in almost two thousand years, means it sounds a lot easier than it really is.
---StrongAxe on 11/15/12


I like the way fundamentalists view this psalm "The Lord is my "servant" I shall not want"
Send me a wife,get me a good job, heal my infirmities etc.. etc..!
---1st_cliff on 11/15/12


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Good idea IF the one requirement was met - the Lord has to be a persons shepherd for this to work. In 1962 I heard a preacher say, "If each Christian led one person to the Lord each year it would only take 7 years to make the Lord the Shepherd of each person. That's the only way this will work on a global bases. Making the Lord Shepherd of each life is just the first step, but it has to be the first step for this to work on a permanent bases.
---wivv on 11/15/12


The word 'want' here is not referring to people who want (desire) something as in children saying "I want that toy." It means 'a need' and is saying that we shall not be in need of necessities because God supplies our every need when we have faith in Him.

The holiday season (if by that you mean Christmas) has become a season of greed not need and very few these days have a clue what it is they are supposed to be celebrating.
---Rita_H on 11/15/12


Why do you have two threads about the same subject?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/15/12


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