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How To Worship Jesus In Church

When Jesus was on earth, He attended synagogue and temple services full of ritual, psalms, chanted prayers. In Revelation, His court adores Him with gorgeous vestments, elaborate ceremonial, and clouds of incense.

If Jesus came to your church today, would He recognize the worship services there?

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Cluny,

Lu2:20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.

What do you think they did when they saw the Lord's Christ? What would you have done?

Sounds to me like they were worshipping God!

Now on a different note, let me say again. I'm sorry about the way I responded to your post. I should have shown more Christian brotherly love.
---trey on 12/17/12


\\Cluny, you said the Maji were the first to worship Christ. WRONG!!! The first men to worship Christ in his bodily form were the shepherds.\\

WRONG AGAIN, as in everything you say.

NOWHERE does Luke say that the shepherds worshipped the Divine Infant.

But Matthew DOES say that the Magi (note the proper spelling, btw) worshipped Him.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/17/12


It is written that wherever two or more are gathered in Christ's name there he is also? Whether it be a home, a park, on the street corner or at your local Starbucks.

Today's denominational churches are a detriment to the maturing christian. These churches are a cup of lukewarmness and watered down teachings. Where can you find a person that has genuine love? Has true compassion for others above themselves? A very large majority of christians do not know the meaning what genuine love is for one another - or even how to truly apply it,
---Steveng on 12/16/12


I worship God in my church by singing his praises and testifying of God's grace.we can worship God at home by prayer and singing.
---shira4368 on 12/15/12


Thanks Trey, apology accepted.
---Rita_H on 12/14/12




RitaH, sorry I offended you and Cluny also. Cluny, you do have a great sense of humor. I felt like in your last post to me you were being a bit of a smart alec. Your last post to me got under my skin. I'm sorry if I offended you or any of the others that read my post. Please forgive my OUTBURST!

Lord bless you all.
---trey on 12/12/12


Is it really necessary to throw insults here?

I sometimes wonder what non-believers must think when they come here and read that one 'Christian' calls another Mr. I'm so smart. That is just one example of many.

Non-believers DO use this site but I wonder if they do so just to have a good laugh and think to themselves "I'm extremely glad that I'm not a Christian if that's how they speak to each other."
---Rita_H on 12/12/12


Cluny, you said the Maji were the first to worship Christ. WRONG!!! The first men to worship Christ in his bodily form were the shepherds.

Lu2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

Now concerning the Maji, Mr. I'm so smart, please read when they came to worship Christ. Was he still in the manger...NO. He was now a small child, probably around 2 years old. Matt 2:1 That is why Herod had all the male children living in Bethlehem killed that were 2 and under.
Matt 2:16

Your welcome for the bible lesson.
---trey on 12/11/12


Brother, best way I can answer this is for me. I go to a church or a mission. My first thing is kneel & get my mind on the lord. I do not presently have a church but am visiting. & praying. For me, I want to be in a church where the main is for the lord. I love the church that give everymoment for the lord. I don't like to see kids run all over the santuary & everybody act like they are in the club. Church should be about structure not alot bling- bling
who try'n to be best dress..best I remember whem my granmother took me to a pentecostal church we clapp our hands & just stayd in a beat we sang so happy! It was very simple. We accepted people as they are & let the holyspirit work on them! Amen. Such Respect!
---ELENA on 12/11/12


"gorgeous vestments, elaborate ceremonial, and clouds of incense"

Jer. 44:16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee.

17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
---j_Marc on 12/11/12




\\But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God,\\

But J_Marc, you don't know God. That's what we're trying to tell you. Your very screen name suggests both Judas and the Mark of the Beast.

We want you to be saved before the day of grace closes, and you find yourself shut outside like the five foolish virgins, saying. "Lord, Lord, open to us"--but all to no avail.

A word to the wise--if indeed such you are.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/7/12


The falling away that was prophesied is occurring,the lawless one,the man of sin has been revealed! HE is courting and excluding all of us in this blogg! Gla.4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 17 They zealously affect you, but not well, yea, they would exclude you, that ye might affect them.18 But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you.
---J_Marc on 12/7/12


\\Churches, fellowships, & congregations have reached the apostacy!\\

That means YOUR OWN church/fellowship/congregation is apostate.

Now what, J_Marc?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/7/12


Acceptable worship and praise is of the heart. It makes it's own beauty. As Jesus gave worship and praise to God when he said in Matthew 11:25-26. "Father I praise you that you have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and did reveal them to babes, yes Father for thus it was well pleasing in your sight."
Psalm 8:2, "From the mouths of infants and nursing babes you do establish strength (perfect praise -Matthew 21:16), to silence the enemy."
---jan4378 on 12/6/12


//And who is the anti-Christ that's supposedly been revealed? I haven't heard who it is!// MANY!
---Mary on 12/6/12 1 John 2:18.
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists, whereby we know that it is the last time. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
---J_Marc on 12/6/12


Oh come on! There are MANY great churches still although I agree some aren't as good as they should be. Mine sure is, my minister is the best! :) And who is the anti-Christ that's supposedly been revealed? I haven't heard who it is!
---Mary on 12/6/12


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Churches, fellowships, & congregations have reached the apostacy! The falling away that was prophesied is occurring,the lawless one,the man of sin has been revealed!2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Many have "asked Jesus into their hearts" and keep the sin in their business must have another(anti)christ living there that calls himself God!
---J_Marc on 12/6/12


\\ I remember when we used to eat inside and go to the bathroom outside.
Now we eat outside and go to the bathroom inside\\

Now we know where your mind is.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/6/12


Cluny, Inside outside? I remember when we used to eat inside and go to the bathroom outside.
Now we eat outside and go to the bathroom inside!
As Solomon once said "Some things are just too wonderful to understand"
---1st_cliff on 12/5/12


\\when I think of true worshippers who worship God in spirit and in truth the Maji are not the first to come to mind.
\\

Why not?

The Bible says they were the FIRST to worship the Incarnate Logos.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/6/12


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Hi Cluny,
The maji you mentioned were most likely from Persia. It is my best guess that they learned of Christ's coming during the time of Daniel. Anyway, when I think of true worshippers who worship God in spirit and in truth the Maji are not the first to come to mind.

Concerning incense in heaven, I assume you get that from the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ which is written in symbolic language. If you will study about the incense it is the prayers of the saints.

And by the way, I don't see the blind, the deaf, the leppers, or the lame who came to Christ and worshipped him using incense, so I don't believe it to be a necessary requirement.

You are correct though when you say "Glory to God"!
---trey on 12/5/12


\\My question to you is do we need rituals, chanted prayers, gorgeous vestments, elaborate ceremonies and incense to worship God?
---trey on 12/5/12\\

Well, the Magi worshipped Jesus with incense. You just quoted the passage.

And they do use it in heaven.

Do you think they do unnecessary things in heaven?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/5/12


Richard,
Mt2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him:

Mt8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

Mt14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

My question to you is do we need rituals, chanted prayers, gorgeous vestments, elaborate ceremonies and incense to worship God?
---trey on 12/5/12


\\Cluny,Once again you can't tell the diffrerence between preaching and teaching!
---1st_cliff on 12/1/12\\

And you can't tell the difference between inside and outside.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/4/12


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1Cliff/Cluny, Jesus preached inside and outside. Will that be good enough? He attended synagogues and spoked on the hills or outside where ever He was at. He preached to many and He also teached the disciples. Today is a beautiful Day in the Lord, make peace.
---Mark_V. on 12/2/12


Cluny,Once again you can't tell the diffrerence between preaching and teaching!
---1st_cliff on 12/1/12


\\Cluny, My original remark was that Jesus preached "outside"
Though the "courts" were considered part of the temple it was still "outside" Does it really hurt to say "yes???
---1st_cliff on 11/29/12\\

Once you entered the gates into the Court of the Gentiles, you were INSIDE the Temple.

Does it really hurt to admit you're wrong?

And in Luke, Jesus taught INSIDE the Synagogue of Capernaum.

I could give you other examples from the Holy Scriptures where Jesus taught INSIDE.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/30/12


Cluny, My original remark was that Jesus preached "outside"
Though the "courts" were considered part of the temple it was still "outside" Does it really hurt to say "yes???
---1st_cliff on 11/29/12


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\\Cluny: You,re saying that the NIV translators just pulled the word "court'out of the air???\\

Yep. You're catching on.

All of the Temple precincts, including the Court of Gentiles, were considered part of the Temple.

Furthermore, while a Reform or Conservative Rabbi (or Raba) might say s/he's going to "temple," a traditional Rabbi would say "synagogue" or "shul."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/29/12


Cluny: You,re saying that the NIV translators just pulled the word "court'out of the air???
Any diagram of the temple shows the "Most Holy" entered by the high priest once a year!
The "Holy" acsessable only to the priesthood!
Outside were the courtyards,again you're off track.Jesus never went "inside" the temple!
Come on cluny , one time admit it!
---1st_cliff on 11/29/12


My guess is that God must cringe when He sees the arguments which go on between Christians regarding the meaning of words.

Had the bible been written (originally) in English that would be fine but it wasn't and there are many discrepancies and misunderstandings over 'words'. I'm sure that God will judge me over what I did with the knowledge I HAD rather than the knowledge I DIDN'T HAVE.

He wants us to cease sinning, tell others the good news of Jesus having died for us and other things will fall into place in time. We are all at different stages so arguing helps no-one.
---Rita_H on 11/29/12


\\Cluny, The NIV makes it clearer Mat 26.55 by saying "in the temple COURTS, meaning the courtyard out side the temple. where buying and selling animals for sacrifice went on!
I'm sure you know about temple law that "only" the peiesthood were allowed in!\\

The NIV is not the last word in Biblical translation.

There were several courts in the Temple. And there's NO word that can be legitimately translated "courts" in the inspired Greek of this verse.

Don't you just hate it when the Word of God proves you wrong? Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/28/12


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Cluny, The NIV makes it clearer Mat 26.55 by saying "in the temple COURTS, meaning the courtyard out side the temple. where buying and selling animals for sacrifice went on!
I'm sure you know about temple law that "only" the peiesthood were allowed in!
---1st_cliff on 11/28/12


Cluny, If you ask a Rabbi where he's going (on his way to the synagogue) he will tell you he's going "to temple"! Probably where Luke 4.16 is referring to!
---1st_cliff on 11/28/12


1st_Cliff, is this verse in your Bible?
Matthew 26:55
In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.

How about Luke 4:16ff?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/28/12


// Why did you cry?// i have a heart of flesh! Compliments were so rare in the FALLEN churchs i attended, now when i remotly believe i got one it strikes me emotionally! Ezekiel 11:19_21 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you, and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord GOD.
---J_Marc on 11/28/12


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"the scripture you are referring to is people who's father is the devil. that was me before I was saved." shira

"your father the devil" was a discourse between Christ and the Jews in John 8. Clearly highlighting not everyone will be saved, debunking the doctrine of universal atonement.

If "the devil" was your father, nothing is going to change that relationship. God never converted the devil and his cohorts, and He most definitely isn't going to convert the "children of the devil", giving credence to Paul's teaching,

"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his." 2 Timothy 2:19
---christan on 11/27/12


Cluny, Your question needs defining!
I know I was
"taught" in school but none of my teachers were preachers!
Only the priests were allowed "in" the temple.
Teaching in the synagogue was fundamental since it was instituted as a learning place! No resemblance to a "church"
Jesus preached on the Mount of Olives and by the seaside the only "temples" were pagan!
Of course the climate there was much more codusive to outdoor assemblies than here in "snow country"
---1st_cliff on 11/27/12


//people who reject Christ will be walking in their world of sin.// You touched my heart, i'm glad i didn't stop blogging to you! We all were in sin before Christ chose us! woe to us if we don't try to obey!James 4:8-11 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners, and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
---J_Marc on 11/27/12


jmarc, the scripture you are referring to is people who's father is the devil. that was me before I was saved. people who reject Christ will be walking in their world of sin.
---shira4368 on 11/27/12


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\\Cluny, do you know the difference between preaching and teaching?
---1st_cliff on 11/27/12\\

Then let me modify my words.

Do you think that Jesus gets preached at or taught at in heaven, 1st_Cliff?

If so, then by whom?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/27/12


//Even today, whenever His name is being witnessed and testified, the same hatred and persecution follows the disciples of His. Nothing has changed and nothing will till the end of the age.// AMEN & that same spirit is real busy!
Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
---J_Marc on 11/27/12


Cluny, do you know the difference between preaching and teaching?
---1st_cliff on 11/27/12


\\Jesus would be pleased at the worship services as well as preaching and teaching as the Holy Ghost is the leader of this church.
---KarenD on 11/26/12\\

Where does the Bible say that Jesus is worshipped with sermons in heaven?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/27/12


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When Christ Jesus came in the flesh two thousand years ago, He was hated, persecuted and finally crucified on the cross. Even today, whenever His name is being witnessed and testified, the same hatred and persecution follows the disciples of His. Nothing has changed and nothing will till the end of the age.

His second coming is Judgement Day, so your hypothetical question of "If Jesus came to your church today..." is completely nonsense and irrelevant. As Peter admonished, "Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness... be diligent that ye may be found of Him in peace, without spot, and blameless."
---christan on 11/27/12


I grew up in a church that should have called it self agnostic! When i was 25, not long after i married my sweet wife i had a very powerful "born again" experience that our familys could not accept! The church we attended didn't believe that God does anything in our time! I had to study the Bible to be able to believe what happend to me really was an experience
from the real Christ! Sadly most if not all Churches are fallen ![Please read 2nd Thes. 2} The world and the enemy have really been attacting people who have heard that real voice!Heb 3:15 "Today if you hear His voice..."
---J_Marc on 11/27/12


Jews worshiped Jesus by throwing branches and their clothes on the ground in front of Him while He was riding into Jerusalem. Not much incense there, I suppose. And the disciples "worshiped Him" (Luke 24:32) when He departed from them after showing Himself after His resurrection. Nothing there about a building, etc. Jesus says, "Do not judge according to appearance," in John 7:24. So, I would say not to get decoyed with problems about outward show witch any psychopath or con artist can imitate and so a church can self-congratulate (2 Corinthians 10:12), but worship is "in spirit and truth" (John 4:24) > "the Spirit is truth." (in 1 John 5:6).
---willie_c: on 11/27/12


The first great commandment is to love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind. The second is to love your neighbor as yourself. Given those two commandments as the parameters, I believe the Lord would be very pleased by the worship at my church.
---Trish on 11/26/12


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\\Jesus did all His preaching "outside"!
---1st_cliff on 11/26/12\\

Wrong again, 1st_Cliff.

At His trial, Jesus said in so many words that He taught daily in the Temple.

He also taught in the Synagogue at Capernaum, according to the Gospels.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/26/12


---Cluny on 11/26/12

LOL LOL LOL thou art much to much
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

with statues of Zeus to represent Peter and all those graven images Jesus Christ sure would recognize worship in the Orthodox Church worship?
---francis on 11/27/12


Jesus already knows what is happening in every church. Some churches are thriving, some are sinking, some are blaspheming, some are glorifying God, some are bullying people and some are loving people.

God will not be mocked. He is still in control even though it doesn't always look that way.


On Judgement Day it will be individuals standing before Him, not churches.
---andreaa on 11/27/12


yes he would. We have the same demographics in church that he did: some are fully devoted, some are judgemental, some give a tithe plus offerings, some fast weekly, some devote their entire lives to study, some devote their lives to worship. They were called Pharissees and they are still around.
---Scott1 on 11/27/12


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I am quite convinced that Jesus is much more interested in how we treat one another than in what our doctrines or liturgies happen to be.
---love.wins on 11/26/12


Yes, Jesus would be pleased at the worship services as well as preaching and teaching as the Holy Ghost is the leader of this church.
---KarenD on 11/26/12


Richard N, There were no "churches" in Jesus' day.
Only the High priest was allowed in the temple,there were no "sevices" Animal sacrifices were "outside"!
The Synagogue was more of a school for learning not a "church" service! (nor did God institute it)
God did not institue Synagogues or churches, Synagogues were man made and Paul instituted the "churches" together with all the rules and rituals!
Look it up!
Jesus did all His preaching "outside"!
---1st_cliff on 11/26/12


Our Lord, God, and Saviour Jesus Christ sure would recognize worship in the Orthodox Church as corresponding to what He was used to in heaven--and would see on earth.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/26/12


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in Acts, Peter is told that what God has made clean cannot be unclean
---Richard_Nicholas on 11/26/
LOL that is why i am confident that Jesus would recognise my church service

1: Incense used in temple not synagogue

2: Pater said that the meaning of not call any unclean was: God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean Acts 10:28. So most pot lucks would be an abomination to Jesus as it is to any jew

2: Jesus would say the same thing to those who forsake his sabbath for sundays: This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Mark 7:6-7
---francis on 11/26/12


francis, SORRY, i was focused on the word "church" You were right!YES HE WOULD!!
Luke 4:16 as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
He would not recognize most of the customs in the fallen churches that i attended that i ESCAPED from!
---J_Marc on 11/26/12


YES HE WOULD!!
Luke 4:16 as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Not only would he recognize the worship services, he would be able to enjoy the potluck without having to worry about eating anything unclean
---francis on 11/26/12

Francis,

Jesus would also say , boy they did not believe me then and still they do not!

"Everyone spoke well of him and was amazed by the gracious words that came from his lips. How can this be? they asked. Isnt this Josephs son?V 22
---Ruben on 11/26/12


Francis said:Not only would he recognize the worship services, he would be able to enjoy the potluck without having to worry about eating anything unclean

Gee Francis, I didn't know that the SDA used chant and incense--beside that, in Acts, Peter is told that what God has made clean cannot be unclean
---Richard_Nicholas on 11/26/12


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I enjoy potlucks !!
---love.wins on 11/26/12


If Jesus came to your church today, would He recognize the worship services there?
---Richard_Nicholas on 11/25/12

YES HE WOULD!!
Luke 4:16 as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Not only would he recognize the worship services, he would be able to enjoy the potluck without having to worry about eating anything unclean
---francis on 11/26/12


Not at all! He may not even respond to the word"Jesus"!
---J_Marc on 11/26/12


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