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Shouldn't Christians be offended by Jamie Foxx's public remark "Our lord and savior, Barak Obama"?

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Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey,

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall..think to change times and laws:

If you are following the laws and times which are set by the beast, in opposition to the laws and times ordained by God, you are not a servant of God. Regardless of what denomination you attent, and regardless of whether or not you think you are, whom you obey, is whose servants you are.


Let God's reality by your reality
let God's will be your will
Let God laws by a lamb unto your feet
---francis on 12/9/12


Francis: In a previous post you told me, if I find that someone else turned this thread into an argument about the Sabbath, call someone an Idiot. No, I do not have to do any such thing.

You obviously are in need of either professional help, or just need to grow up. How old are you anyway? Your childishness is worse than my middle school students was.

If you are older than 13, you should be ashamed of yourself. Name calling, and always arguing in a way that is basically, "I am right and you are wrong, therefore you aren't in the will of God" basically shows a lack of Spiritual maturity.
---Trish on 12/9/12


1 Cor.13: If I speak in men or angels tongues, but don't have LOVE, I'm just a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I'm gifted to prophecy & understand all mysteries & knowledge, & if my faith moves mountains, but I don't have LOVE, I'm nothing. 3 If I give all to the poor & give my body to hardship so I can boast, but don't have LOVE, I gain nothing. 4 LOVE is patient, LOVE is kind. It doesn't envy, boast, isn't proud. 5 It doesn't dishonor others, it's not selfish, not easily angered, nor keeps record of wrongs. 6 LOVE doesn't delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, trusts, hopes, always perseveres. 8 LOVE never fails...faith, hope & LOVE... the greatest of these is LOVE.
---Leon on 12/9/12


---StrongAxe on 12/8/12

What Cluny says verses what the bible says

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey,

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast ( WHICH IS ROME) shall..think to change times and laws:

The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church. Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today, p. 213.

let reality of God meet the imagination of Cluny. He thinks he is orthodox, the bible says he serves whom he obeys which is the 4th beast ROME
---francis on 12/9/12


\\A strong military is what we need..it makes a strong nation. \\

I saw a program about WW2 today.

Did you know that when the USA entered it, we were had the 13th in size in the world? But we still won it.

Gideon had only 300, but won against a much larger force, as I recall, too. (I'm not saying the USA is the spiritual equivalent of ancient Israel.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/8/12




Shira, spending more money does not equate to a strong military. Nobody is saying we should slash the budget but we do NOT need to spend what we are on defense.

The "free phone" program has been going on a lot longer than 4 years. Do yourself and favor and research it.

We never lived in a "leave it to Beaver" world, Shira
---NurseRobert on 12/8/12


nurse robert, I agree we should let big business take care of themselves. you are wrong about our military. A strong military is what we need..it makes a strong nation. free phones started 4 yrs ago. they even spend thousands of dollars on television commercials to give free phones away. a town close to jacksonville, fla had a booth set up trying to give free phones away (if they qualify). I am not making that up, I saw it with my own two eyes. our country is in trouble and you know that as much as I do. other countries look at us and laugh while we send them millions of dollars. this is what happens when we take God out of the schools and our lives.
---shira4368 on 12/8/12


obama is cutting funds to our military.
---shira4368 on 12/8/12

And well he should be. How do we justify a military budget that is greater than the next 13 countries combined? How do we justify 11 Carrier strike groups when other counties have maybe one?

You also have a misconception of the "Obama Phone" program. The program is actually two programs, called Link-Up America and Lifeline. It was part of the Telecommunication Act of 1996, signed by Ronald Reagan.

I have no problems with cutting waste and fraud from welfare programs, but perhaps we should look at welfare programs for corporations, such as the oil industry.
---NurseRobert on 12/8/12


Francis: I will not be the judge of your argument about which day is the Sabbath. You still insist on name calling, and on YOUR Sabbath, you commit such a sin.

You refuse to answer me about the Commandment to love your neighbor as yourself. Why don't you obey that Commandment? Do you even know the story of the Good Samaritan?

By the way, the word "Idiot" has been used to insult people of lower intelligence, much the same way as the word "Retard." I find both offensive, because it shows a great amount of disrespect to people with intellectual disabilities, like my nephew, who is a Special Olympics athlete.
---Trish on 12/8/12


francis:

Cluny has said, repeatedly, that he is Orthodox, not Catholic. Do you truly not understand the difference, or do you just ignore his comments?

Also, why do you insist on bringing up the whole 7th day issue in every single blog? This blog is about Obama, not whether we should worhship on Saturday or Sunday. If you want to discuss that issue, there are already plenty of blogs devoted to that subject without yet another being hijacked for that purpose.
---StrongAxe on 12/8/12




---Mark_V. on 12/8/12
Hey Idiot, cluny started it you can't even keep up.

..francis feel.. superior)...don't worship on Sunday,
---Cluny on 12/1/12

No I do not feel superior,

..you feel inferior, your superior the RCC has named the SDA as it's superior
---francis on 12/1/12

You're showing yourself to be a true child of your mother Rome....
---Cluny on 12/1/12

The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay,.. to the authority of the [Catholic] Church...

CLUNY... you are the a child of RCC, you follow their commandments rather than the commandments of God
---francis on 12/1/12
---francis on 12/8/12


Shira: The leaders of the military said they don't need the big budget the Republicans want to give them. So, Obama is giving the military what it asked for, which is less than what they were getting before.

Don't believe the lies of FOX News. The welfare/free phones thing is a hoax, not true. FOX News repeatedly admits that what they report is lies. Check Snopes or Fact Checker to learn the truth about the welfare/free phones issue.

Why should Obama give the military more than they ask for? That is not weakening the military, it is being fiscally responsible.
---Trish on 12/8/12


nurse robert, obama is cutting funds to our military. now I dont recall exactly how he said it, but he did say he was cutting funding to the military. he really needs to reverse the welfare and free phones. that is the most crazy thing ever. I understand some may need help but the welfare numbers are more and more each year.
---shira4368 on 12/8/12


francis, on 12/1/12, you again started your Saturday Sabbath.
---Mark_V. on 12/8/12
IDIOT!!!

So once again you prove to be a big idiot. I am going to give you a chance to prove me wrong

Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it:

Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God:

Which day of the week is the 7th day and thus the sabbath of the lord on which he rested, which he blessed and sanctified?

Answer this correctly, let TRISH be the judge of your answer and I will no longer call you an idiot.
---francis on 12/8/12


the sandbox

boohoo I'm so hurt someone called someone an idiot so I'll tell them to shut up

boohoo you're a big bad:

democrat
republican
orthodoxy
not orthodoxy
protestant
right winger
liberal

oh boohoo boohoo nothing worse than adult cry babies sniffeling away like middle school children on a topic that no longer discusses the issue just personal attacks.



I have to admit my personal favorite is the whiney "my denomination is better than yours!!

another wasted topic as everyone spends their time bashing each other

oh well as the holiday greeting cards dictate "tis the season"

carry on...
---Follower_of_Christ on 12/8/12


--NurseRobert on 12/7/12

"1 Corinthians 16:13-14 - Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love."

Bless you!
---Chria9396 on 12/8/12


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francis, on 12/1/12, you again started your Saturday Sabbath. All I did was to respond you were wrong. But you do not have to apologize to me. In fact you don't have to do anything but be who you are. I understand your state of being.
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse, for it is written "Curse is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the Law" (Gal. 3:10) You sinned and could not keep all the law, so you are cursed.
"But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for the just shall live by faith" " yet the law is not of faith, but the man who does them shall live by them""
---Mark_V. on 12/8/12


Shira, I appreciate your comments, but you are not presenting facts, you are stating an opinion. In all your diatribes against Obama, you have yet to give any example you can back with facts. Lets start with an easy one.. how is he weakening the military?





---NurseRobert on 12/8/12


Francis: I have already answered you about your use of the word IDIOT. You have not answered me about why you turn every thread into an argument about which day is the Sabbath, and how supposedly right you are.
---Trish on 12/7/12

I told you, go back through every single blog nd see who turns itinto a question of which day is the sabbath


If you find that it is me, I will NEVER call Mark_V an idiot again

If you find it to be someone else, then you must call them an idiot for agruing against keeping the sabbath of God, and if you are indeed the " christian" you claim to be, then you owe me an appology.

see -Cluny on 11/30/12 and 12/1/12
---francis on 12/7/12


Francis: I have already answered you about your use of the word IDIOT. You have not answered me about why you turn every thread into an argument about which day is the Sabbath, and how supposedly right you are.

You need to answer my question. You also need to read, and reread 1 Corinthians 13, and Galatians 5. You keep disobeying the Second Great Commandment, the one that says you're supposed to love your neighbor as yourself. How do justify name calling as loving?
---Trish on 12/7/12


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Francis... Why is it, no matter what the original question or topic, YOU manage to turn it into a war about what day is appropriate to worship the Lord and rest?

Seriously, you're a Hypocrite,

People who possess the Holy Spirit don't argue and put down other believers or unbelievers. ---Trish on 12/7/12

And to drive home you point about calling names you call me Mr. nice guy?

Ok teacher, go back to the start of the blog, and tell me who changed the topic, was it francis or someone else?
---francis on 12/7/12


nurse robert, obama is the president of the greatest country and he is trying to destroy us. I am not judgeing but stating a fact. the bible says do not bear false witness and I am not bearing false witness...I am stating a fact. when someone puts themselves in the biggest limelight ever, they will be judged but God will judge him someday and God will say "depart from me ye workers of iniquity.
---shira4368 on 12/7/12


Francis: Nothing gives you the right to call anyone an idiot.
---Trish on 12/7/12
Be honest now Trish, what is the mental ability of an adult, who does not know that the 7th day of the week is Saturday?

I say he/ she is an idiot.
what do you say?
---francis on 12/7/12


francis, you are not qualified to make judgements about anyone. I will agree our president is an idiot and he hates america.
---shira4368 on 12/7/12

Shira, everyone has an opinion, but what makes YOU qualified to make judgements of people?

1 Corinthians 16:13-14 - Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.

I think people on this site have forgot the love part..
---NurseRobert on 12/7/12


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Francis: Nothing gives you the right to call anyone an idiot.

Why is it, no matter what the original question or topic, YOU manage to turn it into a war about what day is appropriate to worship the Lord and rest? Seriously, you're a hypocrite, and you certainly are not possessing the Holy Spirit. People who possess the Holy Spirit don't argue and put down other believers or unbelievers. Yet, that's all you seem to know how to do on every single thread.

In my teaching career, I worked with hundreds of students of varying degrees of intelligence, and I can tell you that I would never even use the word IDIOT behind a student's back, much less call any human that name.

Grow Up!!! or Shut Up!!!
---Trish on 12/7/12


francis, you are not qualified to make judgements about anyone.
---shira4368 on 12/7/12

Be honest now shira4368, what is the mental ability of an adult, who does not know that the 7th day of the week is Saturday?

I say idiot
what do you say?
---francis on 12/7/12


Family, Trish you are right. We all can agree on that name calling not necessary. Best just have the right to disagree or try in a polite way express view point.The word says if possible live in peace with all men. We should always have the love of God & respect for one another. Regardless what your religion, etc. Agape love. Left a post for you / give me your advice.Bro.Mark on another blogg.ELENA got go back & tell you which one.
---ELENA on 12/7/12


francis, you are not qualified to make judgements about anyone. the people here don't even know each other. I will agree our president is an idiot and he hates america. if he didn't hate america, he would not try to destroy our economy and weaken our military. it will take years to reverse the damage he has done to our country. he is the most arrogant person and he really thinks he is smart but he is stupid and whoever voted him in is just as stupid. during the campaign, he was calling romney names and wow, I wish he was as honest as romney. obama has truly shown what he is and what he hates. I pray for his salvation even tho it is hard for someone to be saved when they think the way obama thinks.
---shira4368 on 12/7/12


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Nurseroberts, I understand your words. Here is what I believe,
I am commanded to bring the gospel, it might mean one topic or another. That's our calling. I cannot change anyone's heart, or make them believe the Word of God. I put it down, after, if God wants to reveal something to someone, He will use His own word if what we present is the Truth. If not Truth, then it will have no power. If others get personally angry, we cannot control what is in their hearts. We can only control what we put down. We cannot make them believe, here is why, "what shall we do, that we may work the works of God?" Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him who He sent" (John 6:28,29).
---Mark_V. on 12/7/12


Sis. Trish, thank you for speaking up. Do not worry, this is what happens when someone is expose as a fake. Their real character begins to show right away.
What seems funny is that he preaches the law, the very law he breaks over and over. He is in great need of Christ, not more laws since he cannot keep them.
Whatsoever you say will not change him, only God can do that. Again, thanks for speaking out, others say anything. I do love you Trish, and I leave you peace sister.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/12


Trish, I was once asked why I don't post on blogs dealing with religious matters. This is why.

While there are exceptions, a lot of these blogs degenerate into name calling, derision, and games of one upmanship.

I read these blogs to learn more about God and try to understand the different beliefs people hold. Instead I see fights about who is right, who is wrong, who is saved, who is unsaved. So much for the love of Christ.
---NurseRobert on 12/7/12


Francis: How dare you refer to anyone on these blogs as an IDIOT?
---Trish on 12/6/12
I did not invent the word idiot

Idiot: an utterly foolish or senseless person.
Origin:
12501300, Middle English < Latin idita < Greek idi & #7763,ts private person, layman, person lacking skill or expertise,

There are people who infact fit the definition of idiot, just as there are people who fit teh definition of genius
Mark_V just happen to fit the definition of idiot. Trust me, I am well qualified to make that disctinction

by the way Trish, how would you clasify a adult who does not know that Saturday is the seventh day of the week:
Genius or idiot?
---francis on 12/7/12


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Francis: How dare you refer to anyone on these blogs as an IDIOT? Who do you think you are to take such an attitude with anyone here? You can't be a true believer in Jesus Christ and be so insulting to one of His children. You fail to display the Fruit of the Spirit, as outlined in Galatians 5.

Just reading your post to Mark offended me. I grow so tired of the immature name calling, and acting as if your brand of worship is the only way to worship. This thread has turned into an example of how NOT to love your neighbor.

I believe it's time for you to take a break, and ask the Lord for some wisdom and forgiveness. Insulting and name calling are sins.
---Trish on 12/6/12


---Mark_V. on 12/6/12
IDIOT
Lack of spiritual disernment makes you not see that saturday is also the 7th day
---francis on 8/28/12

Your question is based on self deception that somehow Jesus kept a diffierent day other than Saturday as his sabbath, or that another day except saturday is the seventh day of the week
---francis on 8/28/12

If you want to reject the Sabbath of the Lord, which is on the 7th day do so like a man.
---francis on 8/25/12

Worship is not a once a week thing. Worship is how we live!!!
By yielding to the word of God on every issue we worship constantly

Our choice of Food, our choice of dress, our choice of activities show whom we worship.
---francis on 8/25/12
---francis on 12/6/12


Francis: 'The bible does not name days, it numbers them 1-7'

Actually, the Bible names three days: the Friday (John 19:42 - in the English version it is referred to as the preparation day, but other languages still use that term still for Friday), Sabbath (Luke 23:54) and Sunday (Rev 1:10 - in some English translations it is still called 'the day of the Lord', but that word in Greek, French and I think Latin and the other Latin languages, means Sunday, and the important one is that Revelation is written in Greek)

So there are three days of the week named in the Bible
---Peter on 12/6/12


---Mark_V. on 12/6/12
IDIOT IDiOT BIG IDIOT

The bible does not name days, it numbers them 1-7, We keep the sabbath on the 7th day as commanded by God.

You are such a IDIOT that you do not realize that the reason given ( WHICH IS NOT IN THE BIBLE) for gathering on sunday is bexcause Jesus rose of the 1st day of the week. If you were not such a big idiot, you would know that the day before the 1st day, in a 7 day cycle is the 7thday.
You are an idiot do you realy believe that the day which SDA keep as the sabbath is any different from the day which jesus kept as the sabbath? again IDIOT!

You either fo not know how to count from 1-7, or you believe that Jesus kept another day other than th 7th day IDIOT
---francis on 12/6/12


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francis, we worship God on the Sabbath, in fact as believers in the Lord Jesus Christ we worship Him everyday. What you fail to see and what has you and Jerry boiling over is that you cannot provide one passage where God said the Sabbath was on Saturday, or that He started creation on Sunday. You put a lot of passages down and not one of them said Saturday Sabbath. Why don't you worship God everyday, that is the question?
Again, you fail to provide Scripture, of course I expect more name calling. Go ahead, persecute me. It is a new day in the Lord.
---Mark_V. on 12/6/12


Ezekiel 46:1-3: eventually, in the millenium, but that is in the future, not now. now. Did you remember to bring your burned offerings?

Isaiah 66:22 -23: yes, in the new heavens and earth, not here.
---StrongAxe on 12/4/12

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Hebrews 13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines.


which doctrine is diverse and strange:
MINE: Sabbath before the cross, after the cross, and in the new heavens and new earth?
YOURS: Sabbath before the cross, NOT AFTER THE CROSS, and in the new heavena nd new earth?

Are you expecting burned offering in the future. I am not CHRIST IS THE OFFERING
---francis on 12/5/12


Leviticus 23 is about a holy convocation,. coming together to worship God

Ezekiel 46:1-3: Is about the rebuilding of the tenple AFTER the captivity as some in Nehemiah, it is not in the millinium

Isaiah 66:22 -23: yes, in the new heavens and earth, not here. One sabbath to another and each new moon

Acts 15:21 Where are the churches that are meeting every forst day? WHy is the word of God not preached every first day?

Acts 13:44 where are the churches that are meeting NEXT DAY? Why do these gentiles have to wait until NEXT SABBATH is ONE church was meeting NEXT DAY?

Fact is there were NO churches meeting ons undays in the bible
---francis on 12/4/12


francis:

Leviticus 23: worship is not mentioned
Ezekiel 46:1-3: eventually, in the millenium, but that is in the future, not now. Did you remember to bring your burned offerings?
Isaiah 66:22 -23: yes, in the new heavens and earth, not here. Besides, "from sabbath to sabbath" means "continually", not necessarily "on each sabbath and then only"
Acts 15:21: Reading scripture in synagogue is NOT the same as worship.
Acts 13:42-44: ditto

Would you like to try again?
---StrongAxe on 12/4/12


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Beloved, this got me thinking about where even if you put someone on
a pedestal..be it child, boyfriend, wife,pastor..anyone. I believe it is a type of lie to one self, idolatry and could cost that person.their life! I heard a preacher teach on that years ago. Pres.Obama is an elected official and not a god.. not even close. I bear no ill will. Making a statement. I do not even own a tv.
Just when I came out hospital too much for me. God is good! Thank God for CN!
---ELENA on 12/4/12


this? The Old Testament commands that no work be done on the Sabbath, but I don't recall anywhere where it commands the Sabbath as a day of worship, especially with respect to other days.
---StrongAxe on 12/3/12
Leviticus 23:3
Ezekiel 46:1-3 .
Isaiah 66:22 -23
Acts 15:21
Acts 13:42-44
---francis on 12/4/12


francis:

You wrote: If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day
---StrongAxe on 12/3/12
I did not say I, I posted it

If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.
Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920.

SEE
Matthew 5:17-19
Luke 23:56
James 2:10-11
Acts 16:13
Acts 15:21
Acts 13:42-44
Hebrews 4
2 Peter 2:21
Revelation 1:10
---francis on 12/4/12


francis:

You wrote: If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day

Could you please cite a verse to support this? The Old Testament commands that no work be done on the Sabbath, but I don't recall anywhere where it commands the Sabbath as a day of worship, especially with respect to other days.



Cluny:

There was a schism between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and both claim to be the original (from which the other split). What objective way is there to say which one's claims are correct?
---StrongAxe on 12/3/12


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Jamie Foxx is only trying to make money.
Now I ain't saying he's a gold digger
but he ain't messing with no broke ( CENSORED)

I think most people here agree that Jamie Foxx is a commedian, not to be taken seriously.

I think that Jamie Foxx knew that his comments would get a reaction that would keep his name in the news for a while
---francis on 12/2/12


If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church. Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920.

The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church. Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today, p. 213.

CLUNY like it or not YOu are the a child of RCC, you follow their commandments rather than the commandments of God

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey,
---francis on 12/1/12


The world,unbelievers, say all kinds of things, however, there is one Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. The Christian simply listens to Him
---Chria9396 on 12/2/12


You're showing yourself to be a true child of your mother Rome by claiming that Orthodoxy left Catholicism, francis.

Most Protestants have that idea.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/12


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Follow_of_Christ:

Jamie Foxx would be a deceiver if he were a preacher trying to preach another gospel, and pretending it was Christianity. However, this is not the case. He is a comedian making a joke. The very fact that he used the exact same words "lord and savior" used by evangelical Christians (which the Bible also uses, but not frequently) is a clear indication that he was making a joke.
---StrongAxe on 12/1/12


---Cluny on 12/1/12
No I do not feel superior, maybe you just feel inferior.

I understand why you would feel inferior.

The orthodox church is an 11th century spin off from the RCC. They are not original, they are the EXCOMMUNICATEES of the RCC

So yes I understand how you can feel inferior

But there is hope for you
the RCC your EXCOMMUNICATOR has publically stated that the ONLY denomination that teaches as per the bible is the SDA church

So I can understand why you feel inferior, your superior the RCC has named the SDA as it's superior
---francis on 12/1/12


Unbelieveable, There is only ONE! Jesus Christ, Satan must have you blinded! I Will pray for your Soul!
---Wendy4773 on 12/1/12


\\"We're not a denomination at all. Orthodoxy is PRE-denominational.", yo\\

Read some Church History--a subject most evangelicals are not strong on.


**LOL LOL LOL
Since when does pro choice
mean pro abvortion?**

Ask any pro-choice organization what they do for women who want to let their babies live, and you'll find out.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/12


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"Does this make sense?

Glory to Jesus Christ!"
---Cluny on 12/1/12

Yes it does. But regardless of what your organization is "We're not a denomination at all. Orthodoxy is PRE-denominational.", you and your fellow members are prone to be as off as jerry and francis, if indeed they are, on any a particular issue, no?
---Nana on 12/1/12


His remark is unremarkable. It is a fitting remark for a world marked by sin and depravity.

Our citizenship is among the celestials, in heaven, where we are seated in Christ Jesus. Let the worldly do and say as they wish, our embassy is in this world, not of it.

Even had a "Christian" spoken this, it would be an aid to discerning who and what we are, and who are the deceivers among us.
---Phil on 12/1/12


Yet the SDA is officially pro-choice,
---Cluny on 12/1/12

LOL LOL LOL
Since when does pro choice
mean pro abvortion?

anyways, back to the topic at hand.

I did not hear the comment by Foxx, but CONTEXT is very important.

In The United Kingdom, there is the House of Lords, and many politicians in The United Kingdom are called Lord XYZ

If it is in this context that Foxxx is referring to President Obam, no problems
---francis on 12/1/12


Hi Jerry, I was incredibly offended by Jamie Foxx's comments. The whole incident reminded me of:

Job21:13 They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave.
Job21:14 Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us, for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways.
Job21:15 What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what profit should we have, if we pray unto him?
---trey on 12/1/12


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\\2: francis and Cluny are both Liberals\\

Of COURSE francis is a liberal. He's a member of a church that supports baby killing, but I am not, and he calls ME a liberal?

I know that francis (and possibly jerry) feel spiritually and morally superior to other people because they don't worship on Sunday, don't eat meat, don't smoke, and don't drink.

But Adolph Hitler observed all these abstinences, too. So does Satan, he never eats at all.

And Hitler considered himself a conservative.

OTOH, I've frequently mentioned the folly of trying to save "Christian America" by the political process. (I'm not a member of any party at all.)

Think about it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/12


\\These differences happen not in your denomination?
---Nana on 12/1/12\\

We're not a denomination at all. Orthodoxy is PRE-denominational.

I've also noticed how jerry disagrees 100% with abortion--his words. Yet the SDA is officially pro-choice, and SDA baptismal vows require the baptizand to confess that this is God's remnant church. In other words, he DISAGREES with the teaching of what he says is God's church. Does this make sense?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/12


I love how people comment about the democrats in the Hollywood crowd, but fail to mention all the Hollywood crowd that support the right wingers.

Little bit of hypocrisy there?
---NurseRobert on 12/1/12


" francis and jerry are both SDA.

Notice how they are unequally yoked in the same denominational church, despite the warning about NOT being such in the Bible.

Perhaps we are seeing Satan divided against Satan after all?

Glory to Jesus Christ!"
---Cluny on 11/30/12

Cluny,

These differences happen not in your denomination?
---Nana on 12/1/12


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Notice how they are unequally yoked in the same denominational church, despite the warning about NOT being such in the Bible.
---Cluny on 11/30/12
Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Ephesians 4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling, One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.


Ephesians 4:13 we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Unity of the FAITH

not unity of political parties
---francis on 12/1/12


1: francis and jerry are both SDA.

2: francis and Cluny are both Liberals

3: Cluny and jerry are both republicans

which of the three are most likely equally yoked?

Jamie Foxx is a comedian, comedians makes jokes to get laughs, and get people to talk about them

Jamie Foxx is only trying to make money.
Now I ain't saying he's a gold digger
but he ain't messing with no broke ( CENSORED)
---francis on 12/1/12


Jamie Foxx is led by Satan and wants to deceive as many people as possible. And this will be possible with the black nation because they have fallen into idolatry. Jamie Foxx is not a Christian following the Lord Jesus he's a celebrity who has no integrity or character and Americans love and worship people who are void of morals. Muslims, hindu's, pagans, atheists, and most people who claim Christianity are not following the Lord Jesus. America provides all with free speech and Jamie Foxx exercised his religious view he has a new spiritual leader there is nothing to be offended about so I'm not sure what the issue would be.
---Follow_of_Christ on 12/1/12


francis and jerry are both SDA.

Notice how they are unequally yoked in the same denominational church, despite the warning about NOT being such in the Bible.

Perhaps we are seeing Satan divided against Satan after all?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/30/12


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lets see now, hhmmm is Barak Obama our lord and savour?

No doubts that Barack is a lord.
Genesis 42:33 And the man, the lord of the country...

So we can use "lord" to referr to rulers.
Barrack is not THE LORD ALMIGHTY

Now Is Barak our savour?
He did save GM
He did save many lives during the Lybian over throw

he has not saved anyone from sin, or from the wrath that is to come

CONTEXT HUH?
---francis on 11/30/12


An offhand joke told by a comedian in jest might be considered objectionable by some, but it doesn't hold a candle to what would happen if the president proclaimed himself God, demanded worship, and executed everyone who didn't comply.

Yet that was EXACTLY what happened in the Roman Empire 2000 years ago, yet you don't hear anything in the Bible about the early Christians whining in outrage about it. They just said "no, we won't worship him", and that was that. Period.

Christians today need to get a real grip about what things are REALLY important.
---StrongAxe on 11/30/12


Shouldn't Christians be offended by Jamie Foxx's public remark "Our lord and savior, Barak Obama"?
---jerry6593 on 11/30/12

No Mr. Republican, This is still a free country and Mr. Foxx is a CONEDIAN.
---francis on 11/30/12


\\"No man who is engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who enlisted him as a soldier." (2 Timothy 2:4)

This could include not letting our attention get tangled away from God and how He rules us in His peace.\\

No, it doesn't.

A text without a context is a pretext. The CONTEXT is about support ministers by the faithful.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/30/12


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jamie foxx and obama think he is the annointed one. they are both fooled. he did hang out with the perverted hollywood crowd before his re-election. it seems everyone he hangs out with leaves a lot to be desired.
---shira4368 on 11/30/12


My first thought on this was, "Who is Jamie Foxx?" I think Christians need to pay more attention to the Bible and the Lord than they do to performers.
---KarenD on 11/30/12


I'm not sure that is where my attention needs to be, with the time I have for reading and other things > I'm not sure my attention should be tied up with reading about so much of what this world's people are doing.

"No man who is engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who enlisted him as a soldier." (2 Timothy 2:4)

This could include not letting our attention get tangled away from God and how He rules us in His peace.
---willie_c: on 11/30/12


Yes, I'm very offended by the remark. I only have One Lord and Savior and His name is Jesus Christ!
---grace-mercy on 11/30/12


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Shouldn't Christians be offended by Jamie Foxx's public remark "Our lord and savior, Barak Obama" No. Ignorant statements (as in those lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or facts) should not offend us, we should simply make an attempt, when ever possible, to educate.
---Josef on 11/30/12


It just merely prove that Jamie Foxx is blasphemer.
---christan on 11/30/12


No, we should not give the honor of acknowledging it.
---Scott1 on 11/30/12


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