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Did God Say This

I remember receiving a bible with a note from one of my mentors who wrote on the inside cover---"It is better to believe the word of the Lord than put your trust in Man" Now that I am older and much wiser, I often think "Who said "God Said?"

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---jerry6593 on 8/10/13

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened [bread] of sincerity and truth.

so every christian keeps the feasts, and are citizens of the New Jerusalem which is the mother of us all
---francis on 8/10/13


Francis: "every Christian does"

I don't think so. Just how did you get there?

The feast of Passover was replaced by the Communion Service. We look back at the Cross - not forward to it.



---jerry6593 on 8/10/13


It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. Psalm 118:8
God is the final authority over every man. He was before man. He sees what man can not. He is eternal. He is wisdom and truth.
When God speaks he reigns over the opinions of the smartest men.
The difference between what you believe, and what God said is one of authority.
---michael_e on 8/9/13


anyone seen shira4368 lately?
---francis on 8/5/13


francis, (Gal. 4:26) great passage
"But the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all."
Jerusalem above is (Heaven) Heb. 12:22. "But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem ..." We are citizens of heaven (Phil. 3:20) and are free from the Mosaic law, works, bondage and trying to endlessly and futilely to please God in the flesh. (Mother) believers who are children of the heavenly Jerusalem, the mother city of heaven. In Contrast to the slavery of Hagars children, because believers in Christ are free ( Gal. 5:1) "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage"
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13




Francis: You keep the feast days?

Do you travel to Jerusalem 3 times a year?
---jerry6593 on 8/3/13
every Christian does
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

1Co 5:7 Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.
1Co 5:8 Let us therefore celebrate the festival,


Christ must still cleanse the sanctuary ( day of atonement)
Christ is still our passover (passover feast)
We continue to have the holy spirit (pentecost)
We are in the last days*( feast of trumpets)
We are urgued to put away sin (feast of unleavened bread)


see blog: Old Covenant Feasts
---lee1538 on 4/11/12
---francis on 8/3/13


Francis: You keep the feast days?

Do you travel to Jerusalem 3 times a year?


---jerry6593 on 8/3/13


so how many of you teach God's Feasts?
---mike on 5/25/13

everyone should

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened [bread] of sincerity and truth.
---francis on 5/26/13


so how many of you teach God's Feasts? But then you all believe Jesus is referring to the so called 10 commandments minus one.
---mike on 5/25/13


more excellent way - I have to say you are coming off as a sanctimonious, self-righteous prig. To wit:

"TEN COMMANDMENT SIN' no longer exists. Not only was the law of sin destroyed by Jesus, but also he who has the power of death " This is wrong, as explained below.
"Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete.
Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah not until everything that must happen has happened.
So whoever disobeys the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven." Matt 5:17-19a
---hazzlar on 4/2/13




Genesis 3:2-3 The woman said to the serpent, but God did say...

WHO SAID "GOD SAID"?

1 Kings 13:16-32 is a worthwhile story on this subject. One gets it straight from the LORD. Another then lies. The short is to not trust what christians say, but to go only by the word of God.

1 Corinthians 4:6
learn through us not to regard men above that which is written.

Luke 4:9-11
The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. If you are the Son of God, he said, throw yourself down from here. For it is written: He will command his angels concerning you to guard you carefully, they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
---bike on 2/8/13


More ex. I do let the Spirit teach me, that is why I know what you are saying is false. You condemn the Bible, first you say,
"A long time ago, COUNCILS OF MAN decided to collect 66 holy writings of God (66 scripture writings that were divinely inspired)and put them all into ONE BOOK" yes they did put 66 divinely inspired writings into one Book and called it the Bible.
Then you turn around and say,
"(councils of MAN decided what we should believe, NOT GOD" Man did not decide what we should believe, God did, He inspired the word of God. All man did was put together what was truth already, they didn't make up anything that we should believe, it was already written.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/13


Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law.
Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

The Bible does not do away with the Ten Commandments. For they are love in action. So we do not break them because to do so is not the loving thing.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/6/13


Mark, humanity creates it's own misfortune (real truth remains hidden because we don't want to admit/accept this). The reason that hell begins here on earth but is unnoticed is that we do such things as deliberately BEAR FALSE WITNESS. I never wrote or suggested that we should "NOT READ" anything presented to us by God. What really matters is that you are not the kind of person that will feel self-conscious about this (will you even LET the Spirit teach you?). This is why the church still does not know the truths that I write after 2000 years. You will NEVER have THE ABILITY to understand real truth until you learn to accept what is contrary to your desires, pride, and 'comfort zone'.

Darkness is a personal choice.
---more_excellent_way on 2/6/13


Joshua 24:27
"... all the words of the LORD which he spake unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto you, lest ye deny your God."

Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Wicked men do bidding of Satan deceiving many to believe bible is not all truth, has errors, and to trust religious leaders words that reject and even contradict Gods holy word. Pride of belonging to denomination leads to greater deceit, deceived minds believe men who tell them the Bible contradicts itself.

unconverted minds cannot understand bible was not written to be read cover to cover as taught by false Christianity, because holy scripture is coded Isaiah 28:10
---Follower_of_Christ on 1/5/13


More Ex. Whats more amazing is that everything you say comes with Scripture from the Bible. The one you say not to follow. Every answer you give comes with a Bible verse or two. And you say, do not read it, follow the Spirit. Very interesting.
---Mark_V. on 1/5/13


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John 7:39 is the 2nd thing Jesus did (He brought the Father's Spirit for us to learn from...IF we TRULY desire to LEARN). It is NOT the 'law of the book' that gives us eternal life, it is "the law of the Spirit of life...."...John 6:63 "It is the spirit that gives life".

2 Corinthians 3:6 "but the Spirit gives life".

The wording used in the following verse is not "FOLLOW" (we are not to be a 'FOLLOW THE LEADER' kind of person), the word used is "KEEP".

Romans 2:26 "keeps the precepts of the law".

The PRECEPTS (peace, truth, justice) are the spirit of the law and cause sanctification (Jesus only ENABLED sanctification by purifying the flesh).
---more_excellent_way on 1/4/13


TEN COMMANDMENT SIN' no longer exists. Not only was the law of sin destroyed by Jesus, but also he who has the power of death (sin AND death were destroyed for those who live as spirits INSIDE JESUS and also HAVE THE SPIRIT).

Hebrews 2:14 "that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil".

The reason it says "he MIGHT destroy" is that Jesus only ENABLED THE POSSIBILITY that satan would be destroyed for a person who claims Jesus as savior (not all worshipers live the 'Holy Spirit lifestyle', some still want to call each other names and suggest accusations against each other,...like on these blogs).
---more_excellent_way on 1/4/13


I once received a Bible from a friend that had this written on the inside cover:

"This book will keep you from sin.
And sin will keep you from this book"

I thought it a trite saying back then, but over the years it has proven to be a correct allegation.
---Phil on 1/4/13


Forget about trying to understand me and the things that I do, Mark, you don't have the ability to understand my behavior and attitudes. I am a lover of goodness,...I don't need to be COMMANDED to do goodness,...YOU DO NEED TO BE COMMANDED (it's a whole different paradigm/'reference point').

Jesus is NOT the "final" spiritual authority, He is the ONLY (ONLY) authority for a worshiper. If the gov't. tells me to do something unjust or against my conscience, I will not do it (even if they destroy my body).

Do not think you can understand me, you are not a "lover of goodness".

...(you have GOV'T. authorities and SPIRITUAL authority confused...you mix the two, you have to know where to draw the line).
---more_excellent_way on 1/4/13


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More Ex. now you say,

"Sons of God ARE NO AUTHORITY and HAVE NO NEED OF EARTHLY AUTHORITY (we don't need "rights"...we simply don't do what is wrong/unjust)."

You don't do what is wrong? Come now, are you now suggesting you are perfect? That you are free from the authorities of goverment? You can do what you want, and God will not count it sin? The passage also says,
"and the authorities that exist are appointed by God" And you say don't follow those authorities appointed by God? Now you are opening up. The more I answer, the more you open up what is in your heart.
More Ex, Jesus is our final Athority, but that does not excuse us from the goverment authorities appointed by God.
---Mark_V. on 1/4/13


When the government needs to intensify control of the American public, the gov't. will have pastors preach Romans 13:1 (in the "word of truth", the JEWS were told to be subject to the authorities), but for the SPIRIT-FILLED Jesus believer (son of God), there is ONLY ONE authority on earth. Sons of God ARE NO AUTHORITY and HAVE NO NEED OF EARTHLY AUTHORITY (we don't need "rights"...we simply don't do what is wrong/unjust).

Yes, by this world's standard, we might be considered madmen (just like PAUL)...

Acts 26:24 "Paul, you are mad, your great learning is turning you mad"

Your "BIBLE" learning has made you have MANY authorities ("BIBLE" scripture, ministers, scholars).
---more_excellent_way on 1/3/13


More ex. I know of no genuine believer of the elect ignoring Jesus words. The Bible tells us Jesus Christ was given all authority. The Bible doesn't tell us you have been given all authority as to what is inspired and what is not. You are also wrong that brothers and sisters pad each other in the back. They hug each other with love. Our pastor does not get paid, he drives an old beat up car, so you are wrong there also. In fact you are wrong in all you said. It is your own bias that has you thinking that way. The Holy Spirit, who is God, has given the gift of teaching to many great man for the purpose of the gospel. The good news (Jesus Christ) mentioned in the Bible, God's Word. The "Word" is seating at the right hand of God.
---Mark_V. on 1/2/13


how can a needy man furnish money to a preacher or church? that don't make sense. I know some Godly men of God and I have known some who got their wealth thru starting churches, taking peoples money and then closing the church. meanwhile, all the stuff was in his name. wow, wow, I wonder what he's gonna tell God at judgement.
---shira4368 on 1/2/13


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Mark, I don't need "authority" (because I don't need any RIGHTS...FOR ANYTHING), besides, for me, the real Word of God (JESUS) is the ONLY authority in the universe.

Matthew 28:18 "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me".

...but you, just like all believers throughout history, have chosen to ignore what Jesus said (because you seek the approval of man). The minister and other churchgoers pat you on the back for being a GREAT SCHOLAR (you are like most believers, you don't WANT the genuine truth). The ministers want you to stay needy and weak so that you seek their 'protection' and keep bringing them money.

Man's version of "spirituality" is a PROTECTION RACKET.
---more_excellent_way on 1/1/13


//---jan4378 on 12/18/12//

Very nice.

God bless you.
---char on 12/31/12


More Ex. after becoming an authority of what is inspired, you turn around and condemn me. As I said before you are just to proud. Don't worry about me, I am responsible for my own soul, just as you are of yours. And I rejoice in the Word of God. I don't jump up and down, because I have a problem with my leg. I would not have known God if it was not for His Word. Have a happy and safe New Year.
---Mark_V. on 12/31/12


If only you knew the real truth of God, you would be dancing and rejoicing.

His intention/will is to restore us to become a "living, breathing, soul" (Rev. 13:18, it is the # of what?) the way Adam was before the fall, and to establish a true identity in you that is the real you, but as long as you insist on remaining weak in your 'comfort zone', you cannot be "strengthened".

"will himself restore, establish, and strengthen you" (1 Peter 1:10).


So, you keep searching for the identity of "666" and the son of perdition, all who ever tried to give you the real truth will hear your screams,...and we will say...


'We piped to you,...' (Luke 7:32).
---more_excellent_way on 12/30/12


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---more_excellent_way on 12/28/12

The Holy Writings are not the "Bible". Neither is the "Bible" the Holy Writings.

Letters, circulars, Hebrew, Chaldea, and Greek manuscripts were compiled by scholars for study and convenience.

Bibles are not inspired, although the oldest Greek Manuscripts, Vaticanus, Alexandrinus, and Sinaiticus, are recognized as most complete and authoritative documents. They date back to the first century. They are all available.

Being a "Bible-ite" is no different than a being a sectarian. The versions are all translations of the Manuscripts. There is no inspiration imparted to the versions.
---Phil on 12/30/12


More Ex. you are too proud of yourself. You've given yourself authority as to what is inspired and what is not. That was my point when I answered you. That you somehow know what belongs in the Bible and what doesn't. That somehow God spoke through you what was inspired and not to others. So for centuries everyone has been wrong, until you came along to tell everyone you do have the Truth. And, too bad for the millions who believed the Bible before you came around. Now if anyone gives you a passage you can always say, "that is not inspired," and when you give something not in the Bible, you can say "now that is inspired, because only you know it. Thanks for the debate More ex. it was educating answering you.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/12


Okay, Mark. Don't fool yourself.....you don't really want to know the truth...you just want to be "authority"-confrontational....why are you bringing an "authority" issue into this? Why are you challenging/confronting me?.

YOU have a need to emphasize authority as your PROTECTION (because you are WEAK, Mark!, you CRINGE because your belief system makes you weak)...

Psalm 82:6 "I say, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you"...and John 10:34.

You see Mark, THIS is real faith, not your kind that hides behind "authority" and seeks protection from the darkness.

Your faith makes you needy and weak, mine makes me BOLD and STRONG.
---more_excellent_way on 12/30/12


More ex, just stay with me. You said,
"Research shows the Apostles in other countries such as China and India, etc. (the WORDS in the 66 books are PART of "all" the words that were inspired, they are not "ALL" of the words).".
On what authority do you suggest there was other inspired words of God not included? How do you know anything outside of Scripture is inspired by God? We do know that with research we can find out many small details not explained in the Bible. What you are suggesting is that God wanted that information for us to know, but man defeated His purpose by not including them in the Bible?
There is many things not explain in detail that God saw was not necessary to be inspired.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/12


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\\1) we don't have ALL of scripture (we only have 66 of the holy writings).\\

Of course you don't, mew.

If you were Orthodox, you would have the WHOLE Bible, not a Bible with a great big hole in it.

It's the Holy Bible, not the hole-y Bible.

Christ is born! Glorify Him!
---Cluny on 12/30/12


Two things to notice about 2 Timothy 3:16...

1) we don't have ALL of scripture (we only have 66 of the holy writings).

2) it's purpose is to teach "babes in Christ" (1 Corinthians 3:1) THE BASICS.

The doctrine about Jesus (called the "doctrine of Christ") has been accomplished and DONE 2,000 yrs. ago (we should "abide" in the doctrine, but we should BASE OUR DEVOTION on what we as a good student learn from the Spirit....we should MOVE ON to "MATURITY").

Either understand and accept that man's "bible" teaching is incomplete and faulty, or...

.....DON'T (it's up to you).

Galatians 3:22 "scripture consigned everything to SIN".
---more_excellent_way on 12/30/12


ALL "SCRIPTURE" is useful ("profitable"), but only for first learning about God in His fulness and learning to do what is right ("training") and it is also good in order to prove what is right ("reproof") and also for correction.

2 Timothy 3:16 "profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness".

After we receive the introduction to God and His ways, we are to move on to a "mature"/heartwarming devotion (move on/go "ahead"). It is not "scripture" that is faulty and incomplete, it is MAN'S "bible" teaching that leaves out many explanations such as what I've written for years.
---more_excellent_way on 12/29/12


Paul's words about Jesus and the Holy Spirit caused many people to RECEIVE salvation, but he himself never caused anyone's purification.

Scripture tells us that Paul was PREPARING to go to Spain (Romans 15:28). Alot about his trip and other successes is likely answered in holy writings that were never included in the 66 books that we have. Research shows the Apostles in other countries such as China and India, etc. (the WORDS in the 66 books are PART of "all" the words that were inspired, they are not "ALL" of the words).
---more_excellent_way on 12/29/12


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The explanation will be long (3 posts or more). Compared to God, I am 'dung'. Paul would have openly and EXPLICITLY emphasized the same thing about himself, but then how could he still get people to listen to him? If you look closely in scripture, Paul did express that understanding in many ways, but not wrecklessly ("worst of sinners","wretched man that I am", etc.).

Paul was extremely humble, yet not so humble as to be USELESS to God or mankind (like I truly THINK that I am,...in practical terms, it MIGHT actually be illogical and silly for me to believe that). No one can be significant to God unless they feel that they are NOT significant to Him (for "the last will be first and the first will be last").
---more_excellent_way on 12/29/12


More ex. now you are explaining things a little more, yet you are not completing what you are saying.
Are you suggesting that only the words of Jesus we should believe and forget all the other books? You say the rest of the books that contain manuscripts are not necessary. Is that what you are now saying? Because you do believe that Jesus Christ is God, don't you? I just want to be sure I answer you correctly. Please be patient with me. My only purpose is for the Word of God who is Christ and is the Word that reveals God the Father and God the Spirit.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/12


i understand what you mean.you hear many 'men' say that 'god said this' but when you put your fingers into it they are just quoting a verse from the bible and they will make ANY interpretation based on that verse & adding 'god cannot lie', you feel trapped unable to question it. lack of further instructions NOT lack of faith is the cause of deceptions or disillusions. then those who accuse you of sin are the ones who disobey.
---mike on 12/28/12


Mark, the problem is in the way that worshipers have learned to COMMUNICATE/express our thoughts/understandings.

The "word of God" is JESUS HIMSELF, the Gentiles glorified Him.

We know from SCRIPTURE that "God is love" because...we read the "word of TRUTH" (calling scripture the "word of God" is BIBLE TALK).

When we call scripture "BIBLE", we are learning MAN'S WAYS....MAN chose scripture to contain 66 books, but what more do we really need in order to have a COMPLETE and PROPER worship devotion and relationship than the "doctrine of Christ"?, (why also add Mark, Phillip, etc....nobody saves except Jesus).
---more_excellent_way on 12/28/12


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More ex, you are correct when you say,

"Mark, God is LOVE (LOVE), NOT 'instructions'...do this, do that, 'put the model airplane together like this'."

He is Love. But how do we know that? By the word of God. And only those who are believers already know that God is Love. He communicates to us believers through His Word who He is. What we know now it through His Word, the Bible, or collection of manuscripts. Of course there is errors in translations in many bibles but that's all we have now. The Holy Spirit will reveal the truth of Scripture to believers.
If we did not have the gospel written down, no one would be saved. For faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 12/28/12


Mark, God is LOVE (LOVE), NOT 'instructions'...do this, do that, 'put the model airplane together like this'.

For the most ideal devotion to God, you have to have the heart of a "poet". You'll notice in Acts 17, Paul's comment about poets showed that poets have a good understanding of the 'divine'. We "live and breathe, and have our being" inside the creator/origin (the poets were simply expressing what was already the Athenian's worshipful mind). Paul said that he is going to TELL THEM MORE about that which they already worship as "UNKNOWN".

The Athenians had love and admiration for the origin and giver of life, not protocol/procedures for the origin, but LOVE for the ways of goodness and peace.
---more_excellent_way on 12/27/12


More ex. thanks for your answer. I'm sorry that I still don't agree with your answer. If there is no protocol, it means you choose what you want to be Truth. You become the author of what Truth is. So you can then agree on whatever you want and disagree or disagree. We know that man put the Scriptures together. Don't you not think it was necessary? How would anyone know what the Word of God said, if we do not have the manuscripts? How would you even know what is Truth? That is what I do not understand coming from your statement. I'm aware of the Catholic works and the extra books they use in the Bible. But they were not inspired. They have errors that are not consistant with the rest of the writings. Thanks anyway, and peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 12/27/12


ex way, I am still waiting to find out what you are talking about concerning your name. I am surely in the dark. the bible and 66 books were God breathed content. I am sure there is a reason for 66 books. God does not make mistakes...it is impossible. man did not pick the no of books in the bible, God did.
---shira4368 on 12/27/12


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ex way, what in the earth are you talking about. you are so dumb and take things for granted. DUH...yea....DUH. I don't care about your name neither do I care about your cn pen name. I could care less if you even got a name. you are confrontrational with everyone. why don't you get a life get saved. you may even be a nice person if you give your life to Christ.
---shira4368 on 12/26/12


Mark, I wasn't upset that you DISAGREED with me, what bothered me is that you IGNORED/disregarded what I DID say.

The Catholic Church has their own number of books (2 Timothy 3:16 doesn't specify WHICH HOLY WRITINGS we should reference for worship, there may be less or more)....Just like Shira disregarded everything in my post about leaving my personal name to be private and still mentioned that she didn't see me include my real name...uhhh, yeah Shira, DUH, try and catch on!).

God never indicated that there should be 66 books in the canon, the Councils of man decided that and called it by their own name ("BIBLE") so that everyone would be PARTISAN about worship (procedure following, protocol).
---more_excellent_way on 12/26/12


be careful. man use the word of god to exploit the word of god. many will say 'god does NOT lie so according to HIS word you should do this'..god said thru jer. I did not sent these false prophets who make prophecies in my name...'i heard pat robertson use that line all the time 'god told me that this year will be chaos bec. the liberals...while the GOP there will be prosperity.'false prophet
---mike on 12/26/12


More ex, I am sorry that disagreeing with your statement got you upset. I didn't think it would are else I would not have said anything to you. I did have a reason, and I believe I explained it to you as best as I could. I was wondering why you opposed the Bible and gave a Bible verse to your argument. To me it was like you were contradicting what you were saying. I also believe the Bible was accepted by the Church or counsel of man. They did not make what was Truth already. All they did was accept what was Truth. They did not give us the Bible, God did by inspiring man to write what He wanted them to write.
---Mark_V. on 12/26/12


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excellent way, I will show the ones around me this post and see if they agree with you. I don't know why the personal attack but your post just made my day. honestly what you say don't affect me one single little iota. I didn't see you give your real name either. wow, I don't care who knows my right name.
---shira4368 on 12/25/12


YAHUSHUA (JESUS) is the Living Word and the Holy Scriptures are the Written Words inspired by the Living GOD, by HIS Holy Spirit, dictated to men.
---Gordon on 12/25/12


Shira, not many people on the internet are so bold and intrusive as to make an issue of discovering someone's personal name, they simply ACCEPT their right to a 'username' (YOU, Shira, don't DESERVE "privacy",...because you won't GIVE IT). You like "church buildings" because they give you self esteem. You get cheap thrills when you discover more about a person's personal thoughts, attitudes, and idiosyncrasies so you can ridicule, mock, and shame them in order to sooth your conscience ("purify", Hebrews 9:14). I've been on the receiving end of human nature all my life. I've seen AND FELT the ways of the flesh up close. You make everybody's life around you a "living hell", The Lord will repay you 100 fold.
---more_excellent_way on 12/25/12


excellent...is that really your name? I said God put 66 books in the bible and you will never prove any different. I do have a one track mind, straight thru my 66 books. God chose things to be revealed in His Word. If he had wanted us to know more, He would have made maybe 67 books. the bible is my roadmap of life.
---shira4368 on 12/24/12


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excellent way, I will tell you I am not righteous or pious but I am just a sinner saved by grace. I am like other born again believers who fall and stumble and need picking up. I get discouraged just like every born again believer. I am sorry you thought any other way. you just don't know me. if you can live a sinless life, God bless you.
---shira4368 on 12/24/12


Shira, many believers hypocritically CLAIM to live/walk by the words of scripture. Whether or not that is actually the right way to honor God is the result of your spirit (we are not to "walk by" text, but by the SPIRIT).

Temperamental language, name calling, false and suggestive accusations have not 'gone out of style' among believers (like "the comment about God saying "66 books"....FALSE ACCUSATION)....yes, we should endeavor to be like Adam BEFORE THE FALL and be worthy of 'the breath of God' (the breath issue is really silly to argue, anyway).

You'll never REALLY understand anything CORRECTLY until you stop the false accusations (one track mind)....you KNOW I said MAN caused "66 books".
---more_excellent_way on 12/24/12


More ex. I can see what is right in front of my eyes. I know that councils of man did not cause the number of books in the Bible, Scripture. The cause was God. Man moved by God all through history have recorded His Word. The councils of man did not make Truth, they only accepted what was Truth already. Much of it backed up by the Lord in His ministry. And told the disciples that they were going to receive the Holy Spirit so they could remember all that was said, and to write it down. Jesus is the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 12/24/12


excellent way, you are wrong, God "breathed breath" into adam. what can you understand that man can't understand? I believe God put 66 books in the bible for a reason. it doesn't matter what people say, it matters what God says.
---shira4368 on 12/23/12


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It's more of a personal preference to care whether 2 Timothy 3:16 uses the word "bible" or "scripture". If you feel comfortable with only 57 books of scripture being inspired to be in the canon or 93, it doesn't matter, I should never have brought it up. Humanity cannot endure information like this. Do you know that there is no verse that allows you to breath?...'INSPIRED SUFFOCATION' is your right. I have upset the status quo. Forget about this matter, PLEASE!
---more_excellent_way on 12/23/12


Truly an amazing phenomenon is that human beings will automatically NOT SEE what is right before their eyes when encouraged to not have the ability to actually SEE things that are printed in the bible (okay, let's call it "bible").

The traditional teachings encourage believers to temporarily lose visual ability when the eyes encounter things like "law of liberty", "lover of goodness, master of himself", "keeps the PRECEPTS OF THE LAW", etc. I can easily imagine believers saying to themselves "Wow, I never saw that verse before".

Someday, if God is successful in causing your 'VISUAL REPAIR', you might notice that I wrote "COUNCILS OF MAN" caused "66 books".
---more_exellent_way on 12/23/12


more ex. you do have many great answers and I agree with most of them. I just didn't see how you resisted the Bible when scripture is in the Bible. We know there is no such thing in the Bible about a Bible or 66 books. But when you quote you quote from the Bible. I only saw a contradiction. No Bible but answer with quotes from the Bible. That is why I ask, how do you know what is inspired? What is Scripture and what is not, and how do you know which is which? All Scriptures or manuscripts are inspired.
---Mark_V. on 12/23/12


more way, you can think what you please. all I said is God didn't say anything about 66 books and you can't show me in scripture where that is true either. I am glad you have a brain. i surely wasn't pointing any finger at you, I made a little silly statement and didn't mean to start world war 111.
---shira4368 on 12/22/12


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Shira, Little old silly me HAS GOT A BRAIN, I can do my own thinking, thank you (at least I didn't actually LOOK in scripture for "66 books").

VERY often believers want to resist/oppose me and what I'm saying, so they do the same as unbelievers and claim/suggest I said something COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS...(and then they have the challenge of actually convincing themselves that their charge against me is valid,...SO they actually LOOK IT UP IN SCRIPTURE. Besides having a one track mind (their own agenda), they have psyched themselves out.

I believe that "Christianity" as a whole will never come to realize the real truth because of this very reason (yeah, go ahead and think I'm wrong).
---more_excellent_way on 12/22/12


the comment about God saying "66 books" is not true. that is no where in my king james bible. got to be something someone person said.
---shira4368 on 12/22/12


More ex. You say:
"COUNCILS OF MAN decided to collect 66 holy writings of God (66 scripture writings that were divinely inspired)and put them all into ONE BOOK (councils of MAN decided what we should believe, NOT GOD)."
If the Scriptures were inspired, and were all contained in a book, don't you think they were still inspired? Are you sayin they lost their inspiration? All they did was receive what was Truth already. Second, if you don't believe the Bible is inspired by God, how do you pick and choose what is Truth?
Because you say,
" We definitely should be knowledgeable of what is in the divinely inspired scripture,"
And just how do you do that? Do you have the original manuscripts?
---Mark_V. on 12/22/12


Mark V, please take no offense, but I will need to be sarcastic in order to finally establish to the "Christian" mind that there really is a difference between "BIBLE" and "SCRIPTURE". First, you'll notice that the spelling is different for each word. Then, you'll also notice that the number of letters is different.

A long time ago, COUNCILS OF MAN decided to collect 66 holy writings of God (66 scripture writings that were divinely inspired)and put them all into ONE BOOK (councils of MAN decided what we should believe, NOT GOD). We definitely should be knowledgeable of what is in the divinely inspired scripture, it is useful for our introductory "TRAINING" (2 Timothy 3:16).
---more_excellent_way on 12/20/12


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More excellent, do you not think you contradict yourself when you say,

"(the 'strong delusion word' "BIBLE" is not in scripture and is NOT divinely inspired). The REAL "word of God" is JESUS HIMSELF (became FLESH, the "Wonderful Counselor" of Isaiah 53)."

You say, the Bible is not divinely inspired and turn around and give Isaiah 53. How could you possibly know Jesus became flesh if the Bible did not mention that? Jesus own words are contain in the collection of Scripture which make our Bible. And you cannot quote what is Truth unless you read about the Truth. You cannot know Jesus who is the Word, from invisible air. It has to be written for you.
---Mark_V. on 12/20/12


1 Jn 5:9
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Ps 118:8
8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
---char on 12/19/12


Maybe he meant:

Ps118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

On second thought, maybe he meant:

Pr21:9 It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.
---trey on 12/18/12


"The word of the Lord" is always what is revealed by God and not something that comes from men.
As seen in Matthew 16:13-17. The prophets of old always spoke what God revealed to them. They did not come up with it on their own.
In Matthew 16:21-22 Peter thought he was speaking (again) from God, but it was actually come from the devil. And Jesus replied to Peter, "You do not set your mind on God's interest's but upon man's."
Prov.3:5-6, Trust in the Lord/His word, and lean not to your own understanding. Which is (Isaiah 55:7,9) always unrighteous reasoning.
Ones faith should not rest in man's wisdom, But in the power of God -1Cor2:4-5.
---jan4378 on 12/18/12


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Psa 118:8 It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.

the quote that you gave is slightly different than this bible verse. it sounds like a quote from a "bible believing" church member ... perhaps a kjv only.

anyway, your driver's license can verify your age, but who can verify you are wiser?
---aka on 12/16/12


""It is better to believe the word of the Lord than put your trust in Man"

"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us" 2 Corinthians 1:9,10

Does this answer your question of "Who said "God said"? Seems the person who penned your Bible knows the Word of God.
---christan on 12/16/12


Psalm 118:8
Verse 22 is also quoted in the NT
---Nana on 12/16/12


The trouble is that worshippers do not actually live by "GOD SAID", they live by..."THE BIBLE SAYS" (the 'strong delusion word' "BIBLE" is not in scripture and is NOT divinely inspired). The REAL "word of God" is JESUS HIMSELF (became FLESH, the "Wonderful Counselor" of Isaiah 53). The gentiles glorified JESUS (Acts 13:48 "glorified the word of God").

Other than "word of TRUTH" (Ephesians 1:13, James 1:18), "SCRIPTURE" is the word used for the holy writings we should reference, but since most are actually devoted to the ways of man, they consult their ministers for EXCUSES to continue doing as they were taught (they don't care about THE TRUTH, John 14:6).
---more_excellent_way on 12/15/12


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Who said "God Said?" Moses, Aaron, and everyone one of the prophets. The term used is "Thus saith the LORD" and it is used throughout the Bible.
---Josef on 12/15/12


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