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Are mass murderers mentally ill or demon possessed?

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Jerry,

Was Jesus a closet racist like you? Would Jesus build rockets to kill a "godless army of inner city thugs?" Or would he see them as something else and use another approach.

Wishing you well in your hypocrisy in this season of love and joy.

Bang bang, shoot shoot,boom boom, kablooey.

Peace on earth and all that...
---atheist on 12/24/12


Another interesting point that was highlighted during Australia's gun debate that led to gun laws, was the issue of how government dealt with mental health issues. As many perpetrators of massacres etc are mentally unstable, etc, it's worth addressing.

A man with mental health issues tried to have himself committed for help. In earlier times he would have been accepted, however under modern guidelines he was deemed not a severe enough case to be committed.
Shortly after he brutally murdered a woman he knew, using a knife.

It would be interesting to hear how those with mental health issues are dealt with. Is the government letting many of them out into society without consideration of public safety?
---Haz27 on 12/24/12


Francis. The researchers and head of Bureau of Statistics have all said that trends have NOT really changed after the gun laws.

But your view is far too simplistic, ignoring the many complex aspects that contribute towards such massacres, such as:
historical frequency of massacres
media's influence towards copy-cat massacres
how mental health is dealt with in societies

The fact that often countries with high gun ownership have lower homicide rates than countries with strict anti-gun laws suggests that attitudes/culture within each society play a big part.

But your still not answering my question. Are you really ok with the massacre of over 2,800 babies per day through your support of the liberals agenda?

---Haz27 on 12/24/12


Today, 2 firefighters here in western NY were shot and kill when they responded to a fire. Preay for their famlies.
---NurseRobert on 12/24/12


In Australia it's interesting that in spite of gun laws we hear constantly on the news about criminals shooting others.

Also notable is the trend towards breaking into homes whilst owners are there, assaulting/robbing them.

And illegal gun importation and trade flourishes, supplying criminals.

For criminals and their enablers (gun control proponents), "gun control" is the gift that keeps on giving.

And in spite of the evidence, the manipulative mainstream media continues to point blame at guns instead of reflecting on their own culpability.

In times like this post-massacre opportunists (the media/liberals) see society as easier prey to their propaganda.


---Haz27 on 12/24/12




jerry, you said it better than anyone here. we are gonna have drugs, violence, abortion, ban of christian holidays, ban of the bible in many places and yet all that isn't coming from the law abiding citizens. cartels get guns we don't even know about and they can't be traced. yet, obama thinks taking our guns will stop the violence. how ridiculus to say the least. I don't know what is gonna happen in the future but God is in control and that is my hope.
---shira4368 on 12/24/12


jerry6593 on 12/24/12 "as with all leftist dictators, the US Constitution is an impediment which must be either removed or ignored...."

It's interesting to note that Leftist dictators Hitler and Stalin were also advocates for gun control

Also interesting is that Hitler, Stalin and our modern day liberal dominated media, did not allow fair free speech. Instead thought control through propaganda and punitive measures was the norm.

Our modern day mainstream media differed only in that nowdays, opponents are not sent off to Gulags or execution. Instead opponents to politically correct doctrine are ridiculed/abused/demonized and given little to no opportunity to voice the alternative view.
---Haz27 on 12/24/12


Haz27 on 12/24/12
so are you saying that gun related massacres has gone up, down, or stayed the same

that is all I am asking
it has to be one of the three

and I am yet to get any answer from you
---francis on 12/24/12


Jerry,

Was Jesus a closet racist like you? Would Jesus build rockets to kill a "godless army of inner city thugs?" Or would he see them as something else and use another approach.

Wishing you well in your hypocrisy in this season of love and joy.

Bang bang, shoot shoot,boom boom, kablooey.

Peace on earth and all that...
---atheist on 12/24/12


some are on medicine or other drugs, some are under mind control Mk ultra, Coin tel pro, some are lied on like this last guy because there were 2 other men at the scene. one ran into the woods and was caught by the police put in front seat of cop car. the one who was accused is dead and someone is setting this country up to loose its rights for self defense, free speech and freedom to worship God
---katherine on 12/24/12




Francis, what are you talking about? France has one of the highest number of gunowner's in all of Europe (30% of France's citizens own guns). The only other countries with more gunowner's are Finland (39%) and Norway (36%) who have even a lower murder rate than France! The country with the highest murder rate in the world is Russia, where only 4% own guns. They have a murder rate nearly 20 times that of France, Finland, and Norway. Followed by Luxembourg where 0% own guns, and Hungary, where 2% own guns. In almost every place where guns control is enacted the murder rates rise by several times. Conclusion: More gunowners, less crime.
---Jed on 12/24/12


Trish. Your claim is incorrect.
Research, and also comments by the head of Bureau of Statistics, shows the gun laws had little to no effect on killings/suicides, and that in spite of an INCREASE in legal gun ownership AFTER the gun laws.
Regarding suicides, the gun laws only changed the trend to suicide by hanging instead of shooting.

The head of the Bureau of Statistics also said we can't even be sure whether the gun laws reduced the risk of massacres as nobody has done any rigorous studies to verify this.

BTW, the massacre/abortion of babies in the USA is around 28,000 babies killed per day. What I can't understand is your support for this daily massacre of innocent babies just to support morally corrupt liberals.
---Haz27 on 12/24/12


Francis. Since you won't take my word for it then consider that of the head of the Bureau of Statistics. He said the 1996 gun laws had little to no effect on violence. And this in spite of legal gun sales increasing.

He also said that we can't even be sure whether the gun laws reduced the risk of massacres as nobody has done the rigorous statistical work to verify it.

BTW we did have a mentally unstable guy shooting, killing and wounding some people at a University around 7 years AFTER gun laws.

But I still don't understand why your ok about the liberals agenda on killing/aborting babies. This massacre amounts to over 2,800 deaths a day in USA.
And why do you ignore the media's influence on mentally unstable copy-cats?
---Haz27 on 12/24/12


"many will perish with prideful assumption. jesus will know for sure." aka

How's acknowledging that a Christian who's born of the Spirit by the will of God and is able to recognize a false christian be a prideful assumption? Doesn't the Spirit of God witness to the Christian what's true and what's not?

It's a promise from Christ himself, "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth..." It's a promise unless you don't believe what Christ said?

You spend too much time loving your "free-will" more than Jesus. That's pride.
---christan on 12/24/12


You liberals (aka, Communists) seem to think that enacting gun control laws (aka, confiscation) is a trivial thing. With Obama, as with all leftist dictators, the US Constitution is an impediment which must be either removed or ignored. The US Constitunion is one of our two most sacred documents, and it is a document that traces our basic rights (including gun ownership) to God - not to government. It is in fact a document that restricts the Government's right to opress us. Without guns, the opression of the American people would be complete.


---jerry6593 on 12/24/12


Jerry6593
There are country thugs as well. They set up meth labs and sell prescription drugs and break into people's homes and businesses to steal copper and metal. There's also the surburban thug. They have well to do parents. They also use and sell drugs, they like to steal from high end department stores. They also participate in gang violence and murder. So what's your point?
---pg1 on 12/24/12


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Democracies with strict gun control laws have the lowest crime rate Great Britian, France, Japan, Australia, just to name a few
---francis on 12/24/12


Countries with the most restrictive gun laws have the highest murder and violent crime rates in the world, While countries with the most gun ownerships have the lowest murder and violent crime rates. In the U.S., States that allow concealed handguns enjoy a 60 percent decrease in multiple-victim public shootings and a 78 percent decrease in victims per attack. With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns. Until the recent CT incident, the three worst K-12 school shootings ever had taken place in either Britain or Germany.
---Jed on 12/23/12


Francis. Your avoiding the obvious.
---Haz27 on 12/23/12

I am not avoiding a single thing. All I am asking you do is to tell us the result of the ban on assault rifles in Australia.

Your respond can be 1/3.
As a result of the ban on assault rifles in Australia, gun related massacres has A: unchanged, B: decreased, C: increased

If the answer is A unchanged, or C increased, then there is no need for USA to do the same. IF the answer is B decreased, then Australia serves as a model to the U S A on what happens when you ban assault rifles
---francis on 12/23/12


It's interesting to note that after there was a massacre in Australia they banned guns. Their homicide by guns statistics are much less now.

The United States accounts for 80% of all gun homicides in the WORLD.
---Trish on 12/23/12


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Francis. Your avoiding the obvious. I suspect your motive is to continue justifying the liberals agenda. It would be humiliating to admit they're corrupt after your stance here on CN.

The infrequent massacres here in Australia, the well known copy-cat affect especially in this information age we now live in, the continued use of illegally obtained guns by criminals, etc all reveal your question is misleading, no doubt due to political motivation.

And yet your continual support for the liberals agenda on the massacre/abortion of babies is ok for you.

Can you still not see your hypocrisy and you purely political motivation, instead following Jesus' command of love one another (hence don't massacre/abort babies)?
---Haz27 on 12/23/12


It's interesting to note how our fervent followers of the liberals, here on CN, continue to remain silent about the ongoing massacre/abortions of babies. How many are massacred EACH DAY?

No doubt it's because their liberal masters say its ok to massacre babies and the liberal dominated media confirm it's ok too.

Interesting too, how the liberal dominated media is not being questioned about it's culpability in the copy-cat school massacres.

No doubt it's because they control debate and they are so powerful who would dare stand up against them. And certainly liberal politicians wont criticize their friends (liberal dominated media).

Hence the greatest massacre continues unchallenged, thanks to the liberals.
---Haz27 on 12/23/12


Francis. Your question is simplistic/misleading. Considering the infrequency of massacres (and that they don't always use guns) our gun laws have not been around long enough to judge it.
---Haz27 on 12/23/12
Ok they are infrequent:
So how many gun related massacres has there been before your gun laws, and how many have there been since your gun laws?
AFTER
---francis on 12/23/12


When Obama's godless army of inner city thugs begin to attack us country folk to steal our food, we'll be ready for them.
---jerry6593 on 12/23/12
Said David Koresh to his followers.
But what happened when AFT agents (not even the US Armed forces) came knocking on his door?
---francis on 12/23/12


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Francis. Your question is simplistic/misleading. Considering the infrequency of massacres (and that they don't always use guns) our gun laws have not been around long enough to judge it.

And what about the obvious copy-cat factor of these school massacres, which you conveniently ignore?

And don't you fear other weapons as well?
One of the massacres here used FIRE, killing many.

Your irrational fear of ONLY ONE weapon (or is it just about backing your liberal masters) whilst ignoring the far greater problems (media inspired copy-cat massacres) shows your blindness.

BTW, killings with guns continues regularly here in spite of the laws. The criminals still get them and use them.
---Haz27 on 12/23/12


mark_v,

are you trying to tell me that you do not respond to messages not specifically to you? it's the format here and you know it and you do the same.

again, nobody can do anything to save themselves. it is just something you keep insisting on others if they do not believe like you.

which again, leads me to no matter how you deflect:

"why do you keep asking why? if there are those who are not called like you insist, how will they ever understand God's Word? why are you surprised when it is written?".

"why do you keep asking why? if there are those who are not called like you insist, how will they ever understand God's Word? why are you surprised when it is written?".
---aka on 12/23/12


Jerry,

Was Jesus a closet racist like you? Would Jesus build rockets to kill a "godless army of inner city thugs?" Or would he see them as something else and use another approach.

Wishing you well in your hypocrisy in this season of love and joy.

Bang bang, shoot shoot,boom boom, kablooey.

Peace on earth and all that...
---atheist on 12/23/12


Nursey: "Where does the Constitution exempt rocket launchers from the individual's right to bear arms?"

It doesn't, does it? I'm just glad that I'm a rocket scientist and know how to build them. When Obama's godless army of inner city thugs begin to attack us country folk to steal our food, we'll be ready for them.


---jerry6593 on 12/23/12


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Aka, again you pop-up with another question. Did you ever consider that I addressed my quote to Christan? Not to you or the others who believe they save themselves,
You said,

"why do you keep asking why? if there are those who are not called like you insist, how will they ever understand God's Word? why are you surprised when it is written?".

I keep asking because they are supposely Christian. I was not asking one of them or you, I was asking Christan why they keep insisting on something that is false? Why do you? What motives you? You have a desire in your heart that is burning, why is that?
---Mark_V. on 12/23/12


Jed. When our powerful and manipulative mainstream media gave Australians our so called "gun debate", there was little to no mention of "assault guns". It was just "guns" in general they targeted with references to auto and semi-auto guns.
--Haz27 on 12/22/12

Why do you not tell Jed what happened in Australia to bring about such gun legislation, and how many gun related massacres hapened in Australia since this gun control lwas were passed
---francis on 12/23/12


A Christian who's born of the Spirit will know who they are.
---christan on 12/22/12

many will perish with prideful assumption. jesus will know for sure.
---aka on 12/23/12


Jed. When our powerful and manipulative mainstream media gave Australians our so called "gun debate", there was little to no mention of "assault guns". It was just "guns" in general they targeted with references to auto and semi-auto guns.

Our then conservative prime minister was too scared to stand up against the might of the manipulative (liberal dominated) mainstream media and it's Left wing political party mates.

And we also heard the same deceptive claims about the so called "power" of the gun lobby (NRA). And likewise there was no mention of the much greater power/influence of the liberal dominated media that manipulates society through it's lies.

---Haz27 on 12/22/12


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Brother MarkV, Christ prophesied, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

I'm sure this passage by the Lord will be directed to the false christians and such cannot be regarded as "believers". "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." A Christian who's born of the Spirit will know who they are.
---christan on 12/22/12


I want to know how many of you actually think that you can amass and train with enough assalt weapons to go against the U.S. Armed Forces.
---francis on 12/22/12


//Why do they insist they have something to do with their salvation, when we are told their is nothing good in us, when we are lost? That is what suprises [sic] me.//

why do you keep asking why? if there are those who are not called like you insist, how will they ever understand God's Word? why are you surprised when it is written?

Why do you kick against the pricks? seems like you think understanding God's word depends on you which is against your very doctrine.
---aka on 12/22/12


A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Where does it say for self defence?

This only gives the right to defend your STATE against the federal governments

It allows citizens to bear arms, to be proficeint in the cleaning, loading, and firing of a muscket, in the event that the federal government became tyrannic towads the states

Remember that many states did not want to be part of the union

I want to know how many of you actually think that you can amass and train with enough assalt weapons to go against the U.S/ Armed Forces.
---francis on 12/22/12


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mass murderers are no more demon possessed than spouses who commit adultery, or the liar who never tells the truth, or the person who cannot help but steal something and the list goes on. The never-ending brainwashing of sheep-people. Are mass murders more dangerous than the 20K+ killed by drunk drivers who use their cars as weapons, or the 100K people killed by taking their legally prescribed medication by a Dr correctly. Or the 43+ million gun owners who did not commit murder. More people die at the hands of sane people then insane.
---Follower_of_Christ on 12/22/12


I have a question. Where does the US Constitution exempt assault weapons from the individual's right to bear arms? ---jerry6593 on 12/22/12

That's a good point Jerry. In fact, the main reason for the 2nd ammendment in the constitution is to provide citizens the means to defend themselves from oppressive government. The framers of the constitution wanted us to be allowed to have the same weapons as the military. I think over the past 4 years alot of people have been awaken to the fact that the U.S. is not exempt from the possibility of tyrrany.
---Jed on 12/22/12


Where does the Constitution exempt rocket launchers from the individual's right to bear arms?
---NurseRobert on 12/22/12


I have a question. Where does the US Constitution exempt assault weapons from the individual's right to bear arms?


---jerry6593 on 12/22/12


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Bro. Christan, people that answer here know without a doubt that they are saved by the Grace of God through faith. Yet they fight against the grace of God. They continue to include their own works or their own rights. Without the Word of God, they remain lost, without hearing coming from God, they can never hear spiritual matters. Why do they insist they have something to do with their salvation, when we are told their is nothing good in us, when we are lost? That is what suprises me. One person gave a good reason,

" The carnal mind is enmity against God" (Rom. 8:7).
And I am not talking about unbelievers here, but those who say they are believers in the Truth. Men would strip deity of His Omniscience if they could.
---Mark_V. on 12/22/12


//Only "free-willers" will quote Scriptures without the tail-end // christan

that is an innacurate statement. i have seen this behavior from many different kinds.
---aka on 12/21/12


"Don't particularly care what you believe as we all have to work out our own salvation." pg1

Can we all work out our own salvation without God being involved? I doubt so. Only "free-willers" will quote Scriptures without the tail-end just like you did. I'll share with you the complete verses to that line,

"...but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

There, see the difference? The sinner cannot without God's grace ever work out for themselves to "fear and tremble" with regards to his salvation. Never.
---christan on 12/21/12


Jed, who do you think defines assault weapons? You? You don't get to make up your own definitions.
---NurseRobert on 12/21/12

That is my point exactly. There is no weapon that is called an assault weapon. It is a made up term by liberal politicians. The term "assault weapons" is as obscure as saying "bad weapons". There is no defining characteristic seperating bad weapons from good weapons, so anyone could say any weapon is a bad weapon. It the same with "assault weapons". The term doesn't actually describe any particular type of weapon or gun feature. Anyone, including the government, could claim that any weapon is an assault weapon.
---Jed on 12/21/12


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Christian
I have no idea what you are talking and He is not the God of my imagination. He is personal and real in my life just as I hope He is in yours. Don't particularly care what you believe as we all have to work out our own salvation.
---pg1 on 12/21/12


Saludo, Hna Elena. Que rico que el Bendito Espiritu Santo, que muera en nosotros, testifica a Ud., que, de verdad, la Venida de YAHUSHUA (JESUS) es pronto. AMEN! El hecho que muchos Cristianos Cubanos estan congregandose ajuntos debajo de la tierra, para alabar a DIOS en Libertad, es, cierto, un Se~al de los Tiempos. Como Ud. sabe bien ahora, que los Cristianos Americanos verdaderos haran el mismo, aunque, a esta hora, muchos no lo saben. Que Ud. reciba mas-y-mas Bendiciones del Padre Dios nuestro. Peace and Grace to you, Sister. You know the LORD well, and of HIS Plans.
---Gordon on 12/21/12


pg1, it's one thing to speculate if we do not have the benefit of the Holy Scriptures which we are told is "God inspired". When Israel was delivered into bondage to the Babylonians, this is what the prophet Isaiah declared,

"The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass, and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?"

And you want me to believe a god of your imagination as to the God of the Bible? Ya, keep trying.
---christan on 12/21/12


Jed, who do you think defines assault weapons? You? You don't get to make up your own definitions.

Are you always this obtuse?
---NurseRobert on 12/21/12


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Christian
You conveniently ignored the rest of my post about the death of Christ. I am not getting into the predestination thing. I don't think we will agree on the doctrine. However, I will say that I do not believe CT was predestined. God allowed evil to have its free reign in this world. He could have intervened but for whatever He chose not to.
---pg1 on 12/21/12


I did, Jed, in the other Blog on gun control. Believe what you will.
---NurseRobert on 12/20/12


Umm, no you didn't. All you did is post a list of guns that the federal government considered to be assault weapons. Once again, I am going to ask you to tell us what characteristics distinguish assault weapons from non-assault weapons. So that lawmakers can't simply pick and choose what they want to be considered assault rifles or even classifly all rifles as assault rifles if they want to.
---Jed on 12/20/12


Did you know the worst school massacre in the USA was in 1927, with 45 children killed?

Look up the Bath, MI school massacre.

Merry Christmas!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/20/12


"The death of Christ cannot be compared to what happened in CT. It was not some senseless violent act against humanity." pg1

- and Christ's death was "sensible" as far as you are concerned? Wow!

"The death of Christ was ordained for a specific purpose."

- is this a submission that you "believe" in predestination? If you do, then you should have no problem that this "senseless violence" was also predestined. To the glory and praise of God. As John rightly proclaimed, "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." Amen.
---christan on 12/20/12


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I did, Jed, in the other Blog on gun control. Believe what you will.
---NurseRobert on 12/20/12


I am probably getting ready to open a can of worms but here it goes. The death of Christ cannot be compared to what happened in CT. It was not some senseless violent act against humanity. The death of Christ was ordained for a specific purpose. He was crucified so that man could be reconciled to God and find forgiveness and freedom from sin.
---pg1 on 12/20/12


Okay NurseRoberts. Please just tell me the defining characteristic then that distinguishes an assault rifle from a non-assault rifle. So we all know the difference between the two then. The danger in banning "assualt weapons" is that there is no real characteristic that defines an "assault weapon". The term is subjective because it's not real. Every weapon could be classified as an assault weapon, which would effectively ban all weapons.
---Jed on 12/20/12


\\This evil spirit of Satan's world is terribly wrong.\\

But all power has been given to Jesus, and not to Satan, remember?

\\Matthew 27:25 says, "And all the people answered and said, 'His blood be on us and on our children.'" These people did not only kill their own children but cursed them with the blood of Jesus.\\

But isn't the Blood of Jesus what saves us?

May His Blood be ever upon us.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/20/12


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They are completely demon possesed.Probably never even believed in God let alone accepted Jesus as Savior!It is not poplar even in church for pastors to mention this great evil.I am a retired nurse 35 years of experience and Yes mental illness is a real condition but I never saw one mentally ill patient attack a child.Adults caring for them Yes.They always seemed to like small children.
---shirley on 12/20/12


Jed, maybe you should try USING a bump stock. Then again, maybe you shouldn't because you would probably shoot yourself in the foot. There are legal and practical definitions of assault weapons. You, however, don't get to make up your own definition.
---NurseRobert on 12/19/12


pg1, Paul says there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" (in Ephesians 2:2). This evil spirit of Satan's world is terribly wrong. And our sin nature makes any of us available to how Satan can make us "worse and worse" (in 2 Timothy 3:13). If we keep on doing anything wrong, we can get "worse and worse". Ones have started with an argument and then have killed someone.

Matthew 27:25 says, "And all the people answered and said, 'His blood be on us and on our children.'" These people did not only kill their own children but cursed them with the blood of Jesus. And they were religious socially accepted people whose sin nature in Satan's spirit made them able to do that.
---willie_c: on 12/20/12


"I never said that the sinful nature was not real." pg1

I never implied that you said it was not real. I just said, "the "sinful nature" as declared by God is REAL and not just "a factor". My apologies for the confusion.

"My point is that some thing else aside from just being sinful by nature was terribly wrong." pg1

Do not underestimate the "sin nature". All you have to do is be reminded of how those who were involved crucified the Lord of Glory at Calvary. Nothing can be more wicked than to kill the Son of God. That was the "sin nature" at full force.
---christan on 12/19/12


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NurseRoberts, a bump stock does not make an AR-15 fully automatic. It's obvious that you have no actual knowledge of firearms and are just repeating something (erroneous) that you read or heard somewhere. To answer your question about what is an assault weapon: All weapons can be assault weapons, all weapons can also be defense weapons. The term "assault weapon" is a made up term that doesn't mean anything. There is no defining characteristic that separates "assault rifles" from "non-assault rifles". The term was made up by law making liberals who obviously know as little about guns as you do. They think that just because a gun looks military like, that it's used by killers.
---Jed on 12/19/12


Tell us, Jed, what definition do you use to describe an assault weapon?
---NurseRobert on 12/19/12


Jed,
I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarifcation.

Christian
I never said that the sinful nature was not real. We all have one but is the average human so depraved that he/she would shoot innocent children ? I would like to think not. My point is that some thing else aside from just being sinful by nature was terribly wrong.
---pg1 on 12/19/12


Demon possessed people in the Gospels seem like they were acting crazy and destructive, though they were not mass murderers. "Satan entered" Judas (John 13:27) and then Judas betrayed Jesus. Peter asked why had "Satan filled" Ananias' heart to lie to the Holy Spirit in order to keep money (Acts 5:3).

I would say a mass murderer is somehow filled by Satan to do what one does (Ephesians 2:2). But, also, Satan's spirit messes up a person's mind. So, I would say "both".

But > "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7) "and be renewed in the spirit of your mind," (Ephesians 4:23) Mental health has spiritual roots! (c:
---willie_c: on 12/19/12


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I also believe, as I even heard from some other, that this mass shooting is a "sacrifice of children" unto Satan. The demonic spirits, which I mentioned to be involved, are also inciting those of the New World Order to make "blood sacrifices" to their god, Satan. These are the things that occur in Satanic rituals, anyway. Why would this be any less different? And, Shira, I agree, too, as you testified, that Depression is a problem in and of itself. Yet, are not all emotional problems really a stemming from our fallen sinful nature? Sin always opens the door to Satan.
---Gordon on 12/19/12


Jed,

Ha ha.


Yes you have to keep pulling the trigger to get about 60 rounds a minute. Hard work killing babies.
---atheist on 12/18/12


Jed, in Connecticut, the defintion under Sec. 53-202a. Assault weapons: Definition: Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or any of the other following specified semiautomatic firearms: (From here they list about 50 weapons, INCLUDING the Bushmaster. (oh, and the AR15 is also listed).

While the standard bushmaster is a semiautomatic weapon, for $350 bucks, you can buy a bump stock that will make it a legal (according to the ATF) fully automatic weapon.
---NurseRobert on 12/19/12


I think it's so funny that people keep referring to "assault weapons" when they have no idea what the term even means. The gun used by Lanza (that was owned by his mother) was not a full-automatic rifle. It was a semi-automatic rifle. Which means when you pull the trigger, only one bullet comes out, not multiple bullets.
---Jed on 12/18/12


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"I think that sinful nature is definitely a factor." pg1

Correction, the "sinful nature" as declared by God is REAL and not just "a factor". That's why we are told by Christ "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." And this command is without exception, it's addressed to mankind, period - past, present and future.

And if the "sinful nature" is not real as some would like to suggest, why did Jesus even command us to "repent", which simply means we have a "fallen short of the glory of God" and are in sin before the Almighty One.
---christan on 12/18/12


Buenosdias,hermano Gordon Que bueno a saludarle, pues usted ha dicho la pura verdad.goodmorning bro.Gordon good to greet you again.you have said the absolute truth! Yesterday, I spent reading book of Revelation. I agree every word you are saying! God bless you.let you know Cuba has 3,000 home churches! Praise the Lord! Most young people alot of them. Underground home church's JESUS is coming! God is real!
---ELENA on 12/18/12


gordon, you will get a lot of flack for your opinion concerning demons and mental illness. however, I do agree with you but I also know some can be depressed but God promised His people a sound mind. I really don't understand all this and it is something that I study. when we get to heaven we will know for sure. satan is controlling many of our young people and lots of it comes out of hollywood. everything they produce is paranormal and we are warned not to play in the fire.
---shira4368 on 12/17/12


What do you believe the difference is between mental illness and demon possession?

RE GUNS:

Guns kill people better that [fill in your choice],especially small people.
---atheist on 12/17/12


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Christian
I think that sinful nature is definitely a factor. These horror stories make you realize just how depraved humanity really is. I guess I am just trying to make sense of it all just everybody else.

Gordon
I believe in the right to bear arms but assault rifles/guns are a bit much. My question is what was going on in the mind of the mother that she had those type weapons in her possession.
---pg1 on 12/17/12


"Are mass murderers mentally ill or demon possessed?"

By the same token you can ask that of those who crucified the Lord Jesus Christ. What did Christ do to deserve death at Calvary?

Whereas, we fallen creatures who live in sins and trespasses everyday of our lives are deserving of death. Do not misunderstand what I'm saying here, I do feel for the family that suffered the loss of their love ones. But don't you think sinful nature has a part to this end that happened recently?

Bottomline, "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."
---christan on 12/17/12


A mass murderer could be mentally ill, but, more than likely they are demon-possessed. But, I have no doubts that there's a co-relation between the forces that influence these killers and those demon spirits who influence those who are setting up the Anti-Christ's New World Order. It's all working in concert. For, these killings will be an excuse or "reason" for a loss of Freedom such as "Gun Control" and the confiscation of personal arms (which violates the American Constitution). The loss of a country's Freedom means they will come under subjection of the One-World Government over time.
---Gordon on 12/17/12


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