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Of where is Satan today? I think he is quite comfortable in church. Other than that, in the competition for our souls, have you read Job 1:6-8, Luke 22:31, and 1 Kings 22:19-22?

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Points 1-8 are true. However no scripture states that those points are not part of free will.

Your post here Markv is only your own theory/human wisdom, that there is no free choice to believe or not believe.

For the OBEDIENCE of faith, requires something on the part of man. Romans 16: 25-27. TO ALL NATIONS! (THE ORIGINAL VERSION) again states who so ever WILL. NOT TO ALL ELECT.(markv version, not found in any version, Spanish or otherwise ).
---kathr4453 on 1/23/13


Gordon, you now asked me:

" Read that Verse, if you will, and, please explain to me what kind of a person it is who would be "Sanctified". Would a Sanctified person be a Pagan Unbeliever, or would it be a Christian? Do you know?"

Of course I know. "who has trampled the Son of God underfoot (no believer tramples the Son of God underfoot, only unbelievers do) counted the blood of the covenant by which "he" was sanctified a common thing" Sanctified, this refers to Christ, in that He was set apart unto God (John 17:19), it cannot refer to the apostate because only true believers are sanctified.
---Mark_V. on 1/23/13


Gordon, let me help you, the theory of 'free will' is a theory of no faith in God. You need faith,
to believe God has saved you.
2. You need faith to believe Jesus atoned for your sins and you are forgiven.
3. You need faith to believe you are one with Christ.
4. You need faith that God will see you through.
5. You need faith to persevere.
5. You need faith to be an overcomer.
6. You need faith that God loses no one.
7. you need faith that God will make you stand.
8. You need faith that Jesus will sustain you to the end guiltless in the Day of Our Lord Jesus Christ. And there is much more. Seems your faith is in 'free will' the theory you, not God can save you then you have no faith in God.
---Mark_V. on 1/22/13


Mark V, That Verse of HEBREWS 10:39 is referring only to those Christians who ARE being faithful to the LORD and walking in HIS Ways, by HIS Grace and HOLY SPIRIT. They are not of those who are BACK-SLIDING into Sin. But, now, I referred you, earlier, to Verse "29" of that same Chapter. Read that Verse, if you will, and, please explain to me what kind of a person it is who would be "Sanctified". Would a Sanctified person be a Pagan Unbeliever, or would it be a Christian? Do you know?
---Gordon on 1/22/13


Gordon, read your Bible in Spanish, this way you "might" know true Christians never fall back to perdition. They don't trample the Son of God underfoot. You do, when you suggest Christians do. In Spanish (Heb. 10:39) it says,
"Pero nosotros no somos de los que retroceden para perdicion, sino de "los que tienen fe para preservacion del alma"
Did you hear that?
"But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul"
Those who fall back to perdition are not of those who have faith in the saving of the soul. In your 'free will' theory, you believe you can come and go. Not true. Your faith is in others, not in God who saves the soul.
---Mark_V. on 1/22/13




Mark V, You deny the Truth of HEBREWS 10:29, that, a Sanctified (Saved) person can turn away from GOD for good. I believe and follow the real JESUS CHRIST (Who is "YAHUSHUA"). I do not follow the "Jesus Christ" of the false doctrine of Once-Saved, Always-Saved. Salvation is a Person, the Person of YAHUSHUA (the real "JESUS CHRIST"). And, to have Salvation means to have a RELATIONSHIP with YAHUSHUA. And, as in any Relationship, it is a "Two-Way Street" of Receiving and giving Love. That exchange requires both parties having a free-will heart. Thus, JOHN 10:27-30 comes into play. One must actively follow the Lord to receive Eternal Life in Heaven.
---Gordon on 1/21/13


Mark V, Now you're showing me what you know. English is my native tongue. Spanish is a S.L. for me. Now, GOD is MIGHTY, indeed. And, Great and Terrible is HIS Name. HIS Name is YAH. HE is "I AM". One fine day, Satan will wilt into no more than the fecal matter of a worm when he is cast alive to burn Forever in the Lake of Fire. There, he will be covered in worms as he lays on a bed of worms, with the Fire and Brimstone forever drowning and engulfing him in non-stop horror, pain and fear. Humans, also, were created with free-will, as their Creator is the greatest Free-Will BEING. HE created man in HIS Image, with free-will. That free-will remains at Salvation. No one is made into a "Christian Robot".
---Gordon on 1/21/13


Mark V, What you are not understanding is that mankind was created with free-will. And, when one is Saved, they do maintain that free-will. You don't believe that, so, you misunderstand JOHN 10:27-28, in that, these Verses are showcasing what is meant to be, and what should be, the daily interaction and Relationship between the Good Shepherd YAHUSHUA (JESUS) and His Sheep. First YAH'SHUA calls daily to the Sheep, and they hear (or, listen daily to) His Voice. As a result He KNOWS them daily. And, they FOLLOW Him DAILY. They OBEY Him DAILY (or, should strive to). GOD changes their heart, but, the person must agree to be changed. GOD is always the Ultimate GENTLEMAN. HE does not cross anyone's stubborn will.
---Gordon on 1/21/13


Once Saved always Saved - no

Once delivered always Saved - yes

satan has the power of influence, and he can only use the power that we allow. satan like our flesh is on borrowed time and place.
---aka4889 on 1/21/13


where he wages war against those who obey God and hold to the testimony of Jesus (Revelation 12:17).


markv, is it possible because you don't hold to "the testimony of Jesus Christ" that you are not in Satan's cross hairs?


Do you know what "the testimony of Jesus Christ is?" .

Clue, "The testimony of Jesus Christ" is not the doctrine of election....
---kathr4453 on 1/21/13




And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him
Therefore, rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short
This is why 1 Peter 5:8 says, Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Cast out of heaven, the devil is bound to this earth now, where he wages war against those who obey God and hold to the testimony of Jesus (Revelation 12:17).
---kathr4453 on 1/21/13


Gordon, You whin about predestening God's children, and call Jesus a liar, claiming satan and demons snatch believers out of Jesus hands, devouring them, when you speak against Once Saved always Saved. For a while you've been motivated, not by the Spirit of Christ, to speak for the power of satan and his demons, and not the almighty power of God. A lack of faith in the Lord. You get angry, and suddenly the old man comes out.
"...Indeed, He will be made to stand for God is able to make him stand" (Rom. 14:4).
"..as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ: "who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Believe God, or believe satan. Your choice.
---Mark_V. on 1/21/13


Gordon 2, you did step on my toes, and I love when people who don't know Scripture step on my toes especailly when it concerns Predestination, or Once saved always saved. I love to speak about God's sovereignty and how He brings to faith all of His elect. And how He protects them from ever falling away or been devoured by satan as you suppose. That is why He is God. And there is no one else like Him. so bring it on, and if you do not want to hear about God, then stop speaking against His power. If you want to learn, just as you learned how to speak English, then post a blog on each subject. I will be glad to answer more then once.
---Mark_V. on 1/21/13


Mark V, Did I step on some false-doctrinal toes?? YES, that comment was absolutely necessary. Because your failure to understand what I PETER 5:8 is really saying RESULTS from your faith in the false version of "Predestination" and of the false doctrine of OSAS. Mark, as long as you spout false, erroneous teachings on ChristiaNet, someone is going to be raised up, by the LORD, to rebuke such falsehoods! Christianity is not about being "nice" towards destructive false doctrines!
---Gordon on 1/20/13


Gordon, you either put your faith in Christ Jesus (who is God) or you don't. You believe satan has power over God. You have been provided the words of God and yet you do not believe. No one can be lost who put their faith in Christ. Because that faith never fails, it comes from God. And if we sin, we are chastened, if not chastened we are illegit, and not sons of God.
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35). Not even the devil.
"There is many devices in a man's heart, neverthe less the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand" (Prov. 19:21).
God is infinite, His Divine counsels never fail.
---Mark_V. on 1/20/13


Gordon, you say:
"No matter what the teachers of the FALSE VERSION of "Predestination" and the FALSE DOCTRINE of "OSAS" teach!".

Was that even necessary? Will it help you to air it out? I treated you with respect, answered with Scripture. Even called you a brother. Now you want to become like Kathr. The topic is not about Pedestination or OSAS. If you want to argue or learn about Pedestination form a blog question.
The whole Bible is for Christians, only they can understand it. The whole New Testament is about warning and teachings. But nowhere are we told that those who were bought with the blood of Christ get devoured by satan. Not a one. If you are devoured, you are not a child of God period.
---Mark_V. on 1/20/13


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Gordon 2, another thing you are doing is you are calling Jesus a liar when you claim satan is devouring His sheep. Hear this and believe,

"Jesus answered them, "I told you and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Fathers name, they bear witness of Me. "But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep" as I said to you, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand" (John 10:25-28).

I also tell you the Truth but you do not believe me. It says no one can snatch them out of His hand. you suggest satan does it all the time.
---Mark_V. on 1/20/13


satan is alive and well. one way we can resist satan is keep our eyes on Jesus. there is a song called "keep your eyes on Jesus". once we take our eyes off Jesus, satan is gonna mess with our mind. that is the first thing he attacks. we need to put the whole armour of God on to resist satan.
---shira4368 on 1/20/13


Of where is Satan today?
---aaron on 1/6/13

He was last seen hitching a ride with santa claus back to the north pole.

He is scheduled to return riding on the easter bunny

He will hitch a ride back with the tooth fairy
---francis on 1/20/13


\\Cluny, Have you not ever read so much as REVELATION 20:1-7?? Those Verses attest to a future time when YAHUSHUA Ha MELECH (The King) shall reign on Earth for One Thousand Years\\

WRONG!

Read it again. St. John says he saw the SOULS of those saints reigning with Jesus.

Obviously, this takes place BEFORE the Resurrection, therefore the reign is taking place in heaven, and NOT on earth.

Furthermore, there are two places in the Bible where 1000 years does NOT mean the same thing to God as it does to us.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/19/13


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satan is "an angelic personality with power", "god of this world", that can appear as the "angel of light". He is "a liar, and the father of it". He controls "demons and evil spirits", and "his ministers are also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness".
satan isn't a little monkey in a funny red suit with horns and a pitchfork! He is an angelic personality with tremendous power. Paul tells us satan can transform himself into an "Angel of Light." he has the power of the universe at his disposal with only the sovereign power of God to control him! So this Cainitic civilization is going to be driven by the powers of Satan and not by the powers of God.
---michael_e on 1/19/13



The Lord did come already. Satan is no longer our master.


of course the Lord ***WAS*** here on earth, however he has not returned ***YET*** because "the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout," 1 Thess 4:13-18 Rev 3:11

If you dont believe the Lord will return to earth your god is Satan who rules this evil war-torn earth full of violence immorality evil Corin 4:4 Rev 12:9

Lord Jesus returns to earth (after tribulation Matt 24:21 Mark 13:19) in his glorious appearing he will rule from the throne of David in Jerusalem Isa 9:7 2:1-3 Zech 8:3 Eze 28:25-

Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ
---Follower_of_Christ on 1/19/13


Markv, you couldn't resist the temptation to again state Christian's have no responsibility to obey God.

Maybe in your life Markv, but we all know scripture is our daily food, we eat and drink to grow, that is, healthy lives in Christ.

You again assume those who are saved and fallen into sins of immorality, ship wrecking their faith , marriages, ministries, did so, because it was God's will.

How sad for you to say and believe that is true. YET, you argue with haz27 against sinless perfection for the saved. Why are you so hypocritical?

Or is it you who can't resist the opportunity to insert foot once again.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/13


Mark V, I PETER 5:8 is a Warning to Christians! To whom do you think that the Book of I PETER was written to? To pagan unbelievers?? Yes, there are Scripture Passages that Unbelievers can read which will tell them about GOD, about mankind's lost condition and need for Salvation, and all of that Good Stuff. But, there are Passages and Verses in the Bible that are SPECIFICALLY FOR CHRISTIANS ONLY! Like EPHESIANS Chapter 6!!! That's ONLY for Christians, Mark. Thus it is with I PETER 5:8! No matter what the teachers of the FALSE VERSION of "Predestination" and the FALSE DOCTRINE of "OSAS" teach!
---Gordon on 1/19/13


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Kathr, you couldn't resist the temptation could you? First, you assume the passage (1 Peter 5:8)says that genuine Christians are been devoured by satan. Nowhere are we told satan is devouring Christians. Second, you put your faith in satan and none on Christ. Claiming satan has power over God, only in your corrupt mind. You excluded (v.9-11) about God of course.
We are told, I mean believers in ( 1 Cor. 1:7-9) ,

"..So that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ: "who will sustain you to the end," guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful, by whom you were called into the followship of His Son. Jesus Christ our Lord"
---Mark_V. on 1/19/13


Cluny, Have you not ever read so much as REVELATION 20:1-7?? Those Verses attest to a future time when YAHUSHUA Ha MELECH (The King) shall reign on Earth for One Thousand Years, right after He returns to Earth at His Second Coming. Satan will be bound in the Bottomless Pit during that whole time, so that CHRIST may reign in Peace on Earth from Jerusalem. Since He was legally within the Lineage of king David, that gives Him all the more Right to reign on His Throne from the same place that David did. The Scriptures are SIMPLE on this matter, Cluny. It is because of some seemingly religious men who have negated and have taught against this truth.
---Gordon on 1/18/13


\\He must "reign" until all things are put under his feet. THAT reign being the 1000 year reign on earth.\\

WRONG!

There is no such thing as a literal earthly millennium. That is to ask Christ to humiliate Himself again and leave His place at the right hand of the Father.

He reigns NOW in our hearts.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/18/13


He must "reign" until all things are put under his feet. THAT reign being the 1000 year reign on earth.

Satan still roams around like a roaing lion waiting to deceive..seeking some to devour, cause to ship wreck, fall from GRACE as did those in Galatians.

Deceive Who I wonder who is that verse is referring to...the deceived already? Has anyone here been ever been cought in the snare of the Devil? Now who again would that verse be talking to? If scripture is talking to Saints ALONE as some here believe, then those verses are addressed to Saints alone...correct?

Ya just can't have your cake and eat it too markV!
---kathr4453 on 1/18/13


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Follower, you now say:

"When the Lord returns to earth he will defeat Satan, bind him and his demons, establish Gods Kingdom on earth and rule from jeruasalem forever"

The Lord did come already. Satan is no longer our master. He has been defeated by our Lord Jesus Christ and will always be defeated. Once Jesus shed His blood for man's redemption and sealed the New Covenant, it became as permanent as God's eternal Word. Nothing can change that. Jesus is and always will be the undisputed Victor, and satan will always be the eternally defeated one.
---Mark_V. on 1/18/13


Satan, fallen angel Lucifer, is here on earth.

Satan, devil, great dragon, serpent who tempted Eve, is deceiving whole world today Rev 12:9

Satan is also:

* the god of this world 2Corin 4:4

* prince of the power of the air Eph 2:2

* father of all lies, and murderer John 8:44

* Satan and his demons transform themselves into ministers of light to deceive mankind as though they are Apostles of the LordJesus 2 corin 11:13-15, 4

Soon the false prophet will be revealed through power of Satan performing miracles declaring to whole world he is GOD 2 Thess 2

When the Lord returns to earth he will defeat Satan, bind him and his demons, establish Gods Kingdom on earth and rule from jeruasalem forever
---Follower_of_Christ on 1/17/13


Again to make it clear, satan does not have the character, nature or attributes of God. He is but an instrument of God just like all angels and demons and people. Only Almighty God controls all things.
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35) Nothing relating to the future is in anywise uncertain so far as the actualization of God counsels are concerned. There is no future event which is only a mere possibility, that is, something which may or may not come to pass for "Known unto God are all His works from the beginning" (Acts 15:18).
Satan is only a false god.
---Mark_V. on 1/15/13


aka, since I don't live on my computer means I just saw it. someone else correcting a person on the blog.
---shira4368 on 1/14/13


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shira i did not say that you did
tjere are far too many posts gone by now to explain. just drop it.
.
---aka on 1/14/13


Aka, my answer was clear, I don't copy and paste, do not know how. I do not spell check every word, it would take me a life time to answer as many blogs as I do. There is a dictionary online, but it too would take me a long time just to answer one blog. I'm sorry I failed you. I try not to mess with my computer, every time I do, I mess it up. I do know how to darken the words, Eloy showed us how one day.
My only purpose in answering was to make clear believers knew that satan is not God, does not have His character, nature or attributes. Satan does not deserve the glory he gets here, because he is under the authority of God.
Is not the Truth important to you? If it is, why do you make an effort to stop it by rediculing the speaker?
---Mark_V. on 1/14/13


aka, I did not use caps on lion. I do not use caps except when deity is mentioned. why did you bring that up? I do know how to use caps. satan is not deity.
---shira4368 on 1/13/13


mark_v,

if you read correctly, i agreed with you. and, i have called you nothing.

but, let's see now. as much as you post, you claim not to copy and paste. so, you type scripture out and everything else you type including others words without copying and pasting? yes or no will suffice.
---aka on 1/13/13


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Hello,everyone..To Pat may the Lord bless you, I agree 100% percent your post about how it so much chaos & turmoil, it's awfull. Thank God for Jesus, pray my strength continue be in the Lord.There are times, brothers & sisters I do not feel so,good but then when I start praise the Lord I feel so happy! Wow! Hey, I love you all please know the Lord still working on ELENA. Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 1/13/13


Aka, whatever you say, I still love you as a brother even if I don't know you are a brother in Christ. So call me what you want. I don't live life to make you happy. I do not copy and paste, I do not even know how, I write everything down myself, and do not spell correctly many times, because I do not know how to add spelling check to my computer. I am just happy my computer works. Again,
Satan is not Omnipresent, he is not equal to God. No one is. Only God is Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscience, Holy, and Just. Glory to God in the highest.
---Mark_V. on 1/13/13


Satan is talking to everybody, today. He is behind all of the turmoil, too. If Jesus were living in these people, this kind of stuff would not be going on all over this world. A lot of oppression, also. Humans are not created to live under oppression. Laws made-up only to make life hard for the people, needs to come to an end. And, too many busy-bodies. Don't you have enough of your own issues to fix? I've never seen the beat of it.
---pat on 1/13/13


"Leon, it was something so simple, and a mountain was build on that, why didn't you remind me about my spelling? I would have corrected it and apologized to you right away. All you had to do was make it clear what you guys were accusing me of. When you have the right purpose in mind for the word of God, it would have taken you a minute to point it out to me. I did not lie, I mispelled the word Lion. I am sorry, you are not going around as a roaring Leon. Or maybe you are now."
---Mark_V. on 1/12/13


INCREDIBLE DENIAL & PRIDE! :) Enough said on the subject. I'm moving on to more fruitful conversations. Peace!
---Leon on 1/12/13


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"Leon, with the same mouth you pray for me & condemn me...You call me a liar & [didn't say] where I lied [about] the word of God...Your comments came when I was giving truth that satan [isn't] Omnipresent [like] God. You didn't like that, you wanted satan to be equal to God[?!], so you guys got together to gossip as a group[?!]. Maybe you are still upset because I spoke against Obama, & since he is of your race, I can see why you did. I don't care what race he is, only that he is an enemy of our nation as a whole. [?]"
---Mark_V. on 1/12/13


Wooooow! This is wild (unhindged disconnect) on many levels! Since Mark has rejected my prayers, anyone else who has a mind to, please do so on his behalf. :)
---Leon on 1/12/13


Sis. Shira, thank you so much for been brave enough and not scared by this guys, and joining, what AKa calls, my pity party. The intentions of your heart are always good sister. When the heart is right before God, it always answers with kindness towards another brother or sister. Blessings and peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 1/12/13


Or maybe you are now.
---Mark_V. on 1/12/13

that sarcastic remark whether you intended humor or not shows that you are not really sorry, and he did try to point it out.

it is hard to believe you did not use copy and paste for scripture with a little edit based on your voluminous posts that have perfectly typed scripture mixed with your regular spanglish speak and (your copy and paste from John MacArthur) as james figured out.

now, give us another "woe is me" post and cry about how persecuted that you are.
---aka on 1/12/13


Leon, it was something so simple, and a mountain was build on that, why didn't you remind me about my spelling? I would have corrected it and apologized to you right away. All you had to do was make it clear what you guys were accusing me of. When you have the right purpose in mind for the word of God, it would have taken you a minute to point it out to me. I did not lie, I mispelled the word Lion. I am sorry, you are not going around as a roaring Leon. Or maybe you are now.
---Mark_V. on 1/12/13


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Satan can only be in one place at any given time. I kinda think he's in this country at the moment. Of course, he has his agents, the demons, fallen angels that followed Satan out of heaven, rather, God kicked them out. is what happened.
---pat on 1/12/13


shira,

you can't read? the scriptures say a roaring lion not a roaring Leon written twice by mark_v.

you joining the pity party too?

feeling persecuted and being persecuted are two different things.
---aka on 1/11/13


Leon, with the same mouth you pray for me and condemn me, great work of regeneration you recieved. You call me a liar and don't give one example as to where I lied concerning the word of God. Your opinion means little if it is not for the glory of God. Your comments came when I was giving truth that satan is not Omnipresent as God is. You didn't like that, you wanted satan to be equal to God, so you guys got together to gossip as a group. Maybe you are still upset because I spoke against Obama, and since he is of your race, I can see why you did. I don't care what race he is, only that he is an enemy of our nation as a whole.
---Mark_V. on 1/12/13


Mark_V: I don't & can't judge you. God's word judges us all! Obviously, you don't like it when God's light shines on your sins. Instead, you go trippin' down the river Denial & think everybody, but you, is wrong. :)

You sanctimoniously criticize & are quite adept at name calling, but you fail miserably when it comes to receiving correction for your sins. You really need to pause & listen to your self-righteous, delusional, hateful comments to & about others.

Please, don't let that devilish "lion pride" of yours devour you. I pray the eyes of your understanding be opened to God's truth in this matter.

Sincerely, with nothing but love in my heart, your brother in Christ: "Leon". :)
---Leon on 1/11/13


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Hello,bro.Mark, hey got a situation really does not make a bit of sense
Especially, for anyone who claim they are christians.Crazy thing a good friend says at her church, they have this family also doing it, too. Here goes, there are families, who actually attend church regularly & they are "drug dealers!" Been quite a while, one lady says she" is not afraid because she goes to church & they just try' to make ends meet!"
Sounds evil, if that not Satan talk.
I do not know what could be...
These folks raised in church since small kids.. any comment welcome.
P.s. I do not visit them & have told christian sisters...don't hang out with them. Best leave them alone.
---ELENA on 1/11/13


Leon, thank you for your words, keep them coming, they expose what is in your heart. You gossip with a group of people who care less about the Word of God, and then judge me as most of you do. Get in line with Nana, francis who calls me an idiot, Jerry, Kathr, Marc, Steven G etc. Get in the same line, the line is still not full. You didn't like correction for the glory of God, so you resort like the vipers in Matthew 12:34. A line that has only those who speak for free will and Saturday Sabbath.
"But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of Judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned" (Matt. 12:36,37).
---Mark_V. on 1/11/13


markv, do you feel like you have attack from every side. you can expect that as long as you tell truths from God's Word. you will be persecuted on christianet just like I am. I still stand on the Word of God.
---shira4368 on 1/11/13


SPECK: "James L...now that you are save you resort to sarcastic remarks to ME. Is that what regeneration did for you?...You turn [twist] the Word of God around...you will be judge by your words."---Mark_V. on 1/11/13

PLANK: "Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring Leon, seeking whom he may devour...if he walks about from one place to another, like a roaring Leon..."
---Mark_V. on 1/8/13


:)

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye & pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?...YOU HYPOCRITE..." (Luke 6:41-42, NIV)
---Leon on 1/11/13


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James L, you posted your testimony, how you were an unbeliever and did all those good deeds, now that you are save you resort to sarcastic remarks to me. Is that what regeneration did for you?
The passage:

"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned".
What you say concerning the Spirit who guides us unto all Truth, and never lies, you turn it around and say we are claiming infallibility. That's nonesense. No one is infallible but God. Believers can be guided by other sources to lies. They are not perfect. But that is not the ministry of the Holy Spirit, it's always unto all Truth. You turn the Word of God around for your morning satisfaction, you will be judge by your words.
---Mark_V. on 1/11/13


Mark V: My bad! Didn't mean for what I stated to be interpreted as Satan being omni-present, but rather, he has the ability to get from one place to another, and no place is "safe" to escape his temptations, not even in a church.
---wivv on 1/10/13


Satan is everywhere. It's up to you if you're going to recognize his evil kingdom.
---New_Covenant_Bible_Institute on 1/10/13


shira, lion with a capital L.

markv, if you don't get it from a few responses of yours ago, then i predict that you won't apolgize.

phil...that was good.
---aka on 1/10/13


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"By His spirit the heavens were made seemly, His hand travailed with the fugitive serpent."

Satan, created a man-killer and a liar from the beginning, is the god of this present wicked eon.

As a spiritual being, he is God's adversary, opposing everything good that God wills.

His effectiveness and ability to intrude on men's affairs is unquestionable.

He is not restricted in his movements in the spiritual realm, except by decree and God's intention.

Wherever he establishes a stronghold, he is present. Unbelief and religion are strongholds of the enemy.
---Phil on 1/10/13


"leon,

i do see that. but, what is more convincing is the capital l. it is not like that in the bibles i have.

i was hoping that Mark would come clean.

Leon, the leon-hearted, your posts are funny and thought provoking. don't be run off the Mark.
---aka on 1/9/13"


Don't worry aka, I fully intend to stand firmly against the "wiles" (tricks, cunning, sneakiness) of the devil (Eph. 6:11). :)
---Leon on 1/10/13


\\AKA, did I make an error? I would like to know if I did. I don't want to put down something that is wrong. If I am wrong I will correct it...\\
---Mark_V. on 1/10/13

Umm, aren't you guided into all truth by the Spirit?

If so, it's not possible for you to be in error.
---James_L on 1/10/13


AKA, did I make an error? I would like to know if I did. I don't want to put down something that is wrong. If I am wrong I will correct it or apologize and say I am wrong. Both you and Leon sound like you found something wrong with my answer. It would be nice of one of you would bring it to my attention. If Satan is equal to God in His attribute of Omnipresence, and you found something to that effect I would like to know.
---Mark_V. on 1/10/13


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king james bible...1 Peter 5:8...Be sober, be vigilant because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour
---shira4368 on 1/10/13


leon,

i do see that. but, what is more convincing is the capital l. it is not like that in the bibles i have.

i was hoping that Mark would come clean.

Leon, the leon-hearted, your posts are funny and thought provoking. don't be run off the Mark.
---aka on 1/9/13


"to and fro"

the most important meaning behind 1 Peter 5:8 is the witness that it provides in Job 1:7 and 2:33.

Without witness, there is no truth.
---aka on 1/9/13


Aka: That was no typo. Look at the computer home row key. Mark knew exactly what he was doing -- "TWICE". :)
---Leon on 1/9/13


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satan isn't going to and fro seeking "someone". He is going to and fro seeking "whomever" and that does not mean someone. (KJV) some versions of the bible don't mention satan very often. they have taken much out of the bible.
---shira4368 on 1/9/13


i agree with mark. satan is here and there but not everywhere.

(neither is Leon...
i think it was a typo...might be slip)
---aka on 1/9/13


"Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring Leon, seeking whom he may devour...if he walks about from one place to another, like a roaring Leon, it means he is not in all places at one time...
---Mark_V. on 1/8/13"


The one who conceals hatred has lying lips, and whoever utters slander is a fool. (Proverbs 10:18, ESV)
---Leon on 1/9/13


Willie C, your statement makes a lot of sense. When satan talks there is deceit in his words. He mostly lies and makes sure he twist's the words of God as he did with Eve. When he said,
"Has God indeed said, "you shall not eat of every tree of the garden/" He twisted the words of God by implying that God commanded not to eat of "every tree" That is not what God had said, God said they could eat of the other trees, but not of one tree.
---Mark_V. on 1/9/13


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"1 Cor.13: If I speak in men or angels tongues, but don't have LOVE, I'm just a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I'm gifted to prophecy & understand all mysteries & knowledge, & if my faith moves mountains, but I don't have LOVE, I'm nothing. 3 If I give all to the poor & give my body to hardship so I can boast, but don't have LOVE, I gain nothing. 4 LOVE is patient, LOVE is kind. It doesn't envy, boast, isn't proud. 5 IT DOESN'T DISHONOR OTHERS, it's not selfish, not easily angered, nor keeps record of wrongs. 6 LOVE doesn't delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, trusts, hopes, always perseveres. 8 LOVE never fails...faith, hope & LOVE... the greatest of these is LOVE. :)
---Leon on 1/8/13


Wivv, if you read what Peter said very carefully, in
(1 Peter 5:8 (NASB77)

"Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring Leon, seeking whom he may devour"

You would see he is not omnipresent. Beause if he walks about from one place to another, like a roaring Leon, it means he is not in all places at one time. He would be everywhere at one time if he was Omnipresent. So no, the passage speaks the opposite, he is not Omnipresent. Only God is Omnipresent, everywhere.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/13


Satan is everywhere according to
1 Peter 5:8 (NASB77)

Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls about like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
---wivv on 1/7/13


defeated by the blood of Jesus, and fleeing from us who submit to God and resist Satan > James 4:7

"And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good?" (1 Peter 3:13)

But while Paul was not submitting to God's grace, it seems to me that Satan was able to get the better of him so Paul was pleading three times for that "messenger of Satan" to depart from Paul > 2 Corinthians 12:7-15.

Satan told Jesus that Satan was "going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it" (in Job 2:2), but Satan is a liar (John 8:44). I think he was just giving a vague answer > "What have you been doing?" "Oh, things, I've been here and there." lying
---willie_c: on 1/7/13


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How do you know that Satan is not comfortably ensconced in YOUR church-house, Leon?

Christ is baptized. In the Jordan.
---Cluny on 1/7/13


Aaron, let's make sure we have a good beginning. Satan is an angelic being, and he is not Omnipresent. Only God is Omnipresent. Satan can only be in one place at a time. So he cannot be everywhere. He is not Divine as God. His influence is everywhere. His demons are also many. If satan is in a church, he can only be in one of them at a time. It would take him forever to go to all churches. He is the god of this world in that the world is doing his desires without even knowing they are.
Believers are not of the world but of God. Satan doesn't have to take the souls of the lost, they are already lost and heading to hell, where Satan and his demons will be also.
---Mark_V. on 1/7/13


"And the LORD said to Satan, 'Where have you come from?' Satan answered the LORD, 'From roaming through the earth & going back & forth in it.'" (Job 2:2, NIT)

""Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil [satan]. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. (1 Peter 5:8, NLT)

Satan certainly visits & is a quite comfortable member in many church-houses (religious social clubs) throughout world over. But, he can never be in (inhabit) the Church (Body of Christ, Believers in Jesus Christ). In church-houses there's always the wheat & chaff, the sheep & goats, born again believers & lost, unbelieving souls.
---Leon on 1/6/13


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