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The Language Of God

On another blog it was stated: "[Greek] is God's choice of language.

That is an interesting statement. Why do you think God chose Greek instead of any other language?

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On another blog it was stated: "[Greek] is God's choice of language.That is an interesting statement. Why do you think God chose Greek instead of any other language?

How any rational, Bible literate person could come to a conclusion like that is GREEK TO ME!!! :)
---Leon on 2/6/13


Well actually the Bible were originally written in Greek and Hebrews and were the most famous. All of the NT were written in Greek, because the language was spoken broadly across the Roman Empire. The OT was done in Hebrews. There were other languages used in those days that had a bearing on the writing or transmission of the original texts of the Bible: Aramaic, Latin, and Persian.
---pat on 2/3/13


//I think God's understanding is beyond words.
---Jed on 1/31/13//

I Completely agree.

He did provide His Word- In Spirit and In Truth.
---char on 2/1/13


I for one don't believe God is limited to or prefers any one particular language. He's God and knows everything so He must be perfectly fluent in every language that could ever possibly exist or has ever existed. What makes you think God even needs language at all? Is God limited to words and man's languages? I think God's understanding is beyond words.
---Jed on 1/31/13


God bless you jan,

His Word is set.
He has "set apart" His witnesses. Is 42:1-4
His testimony, "mark" the directions -

one to take and one not to take.
His Word : plumb-line.

Amos 7:7-9(all)
Thus he shewed me: and, behold, the LORD stood upon a wall made by a plumbline, with a plumbline in his hand.
And the LORD said unto me, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A plumbline. Then said the LORD, Behold, I will set a plumbline in the midst of my people Israel: I will not again pass by them any more:[...]

Shalom
---char on 1/30/13




Blessings jan4378,
//Does Sheyt mean Seth?// Yes.
The parent root (single syllable of two Hebrew letters) would be
sh and chet the child root (three syllables) would be sh - yod - chet
Hebraism (Semitic) is function based.

7896 Buttocks: the seat-to place, seat, mark, establish
Letter pictograph:
sh- two front teeth: sharp, press, eat, two
Yod-hand: work, throw, worship
chet-wall,fence the letter itself looks like a doorway: outside, divide, half,

Heb 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
---char on 1/30/13


God chose to create confusion with languages Genesis 11, so there is no preferred language for God as the divine creator of all and the author of all the different languages, however if there were a preference it was Hebrew as found in Genesis 11:1, the language of his chosen people.
---Follower_of_Christ on 1/26/13


God confused languages, but he kept Hebrew intact and apart from it. As he kept the covenant people apart from everyone else.

To the OP: Greek is simply the language of an earthly Empire.
---jan4378 on 1/28/13


\\ *Adams family-established through Sheyt as Abel was killed and Cain(qayin) expelled
Hebraic:Sheyt- establish/buttocks: "to set something in place" ---char on 1/21/13 //

Does Sheyt mean Seth?

Thank you Char for continuing to provide blessings
---jan4378 on 1/28/13


Interesting although obviously a statement from someone without spiritual guidance and more importantly pure ignorance of history seeing God originally worked with the Hebrew nation that did not speak or write Greek and further Moses wrote the first 5 books (previously memorized for generations) in Hebrew. The Apostles spoke and wrote in Aramaic it was clear they understood Greek.

God chose to create confusion with languages Genesis 11, so there is no preferred language for God as the divine creator of all and the author of all the different languages, however if there were a preference it was Hebrew as found in Genesis 11:1, the language of his chosen people.
---Follower_of_Christ on 1/26/13


\\even the most unlearned person can decide for himself what God truly meant to say\\
---Phil on 1/24/13

We don't decide what God meant, HE decides what He meant.

At best, we discover what He meant.

But if discovering truth is like finding gold nuggets, our bucket will never be full of nuggets in this lifetime
---James_L on 1/24/13




\\Now that interlinears and concordances are accessible, even the most unlearned person can decide for himself what God truly meant to say, apart from the translations.\\

So one person, using various lexica and reference books, will decide that God meant A.

Another person using the same books will decide that God meant Non-A, specifically its antithesis.

Do I understand you correctly?

William Miller came to his conclusions that Jesus was going to return in 1833, then 1844, using Cruden's Concordance (the one most commonly available at the time) and what historical reference books he had.

Harold Camping did something similar a couple of years ago.

We all see the results.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/24/13


All the versions are interpretations of the Greek manuscripts. Men did not translate out of inspiration, but did so to help the common man understand God through his own language.

Lacking this divine inspiration, all interpreters did the best they could at the time with what they had.

Now that interlinears and concordances are accessible, even the most unlearned person can decide for himself what God truly meant to say, apart from the translations.

To those who study the scriptures earnestly to find out the heart and mind of God, these tools have great value.

He chose languages to reveal Himself through for a reason.
---Phil on 1/24/13


trey,

i agree. whatever language the father needs to reach His people with His gospel...

to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile.

his gospel is available to all who are able to hear and follow.
---aka on 1/22/13


aka4889, I believe that our God has his language. His sheep hear his voice be they Greek, Jew, American, Russian, Affrican, Mexican, etc. Please read:

Acts2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

I believe one might be speaking Hebrew and another was hearing in Greek.

What an Awesome GOD!!!
---trey on 1/22/13


Mark Eaton, The NT was not written in the Classical (Attic) Greek of Socrates and Plato but Koine' a simplified Greek!
---1st_cliff on 1/22/13


God confused the language of the people at Babel when they began to build the tower. The world then had a multitude of languages and has had them ever since.

God wants us to know Him and we get to know Him through His Word - the Bible. That is why we now have it in OUR OWN languages.

I am sure that God approves of Bibles being written in a variety of languages and is pleased that this makes it accessible for man to read it for himself instead of having to rely on someone else reading it to them.
---Rita_H on 1/22/13


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Based upon what I know about the classical Greek language, it was a very precise language. In its use of verb conjugation, perfect and imperfect tenses, passive and imperative voices, as well using many different words instead of the same word for many uses. In choosing Greek, God chose a language that could definitively pinpoint without question, who is speaking, who is performing the action, on whom is the action being performed, and when is the action being performed.

Compared to English, Greek makes English look like a child's language.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/22/13


Genesis 11:1 the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.


If God had a preferred language, it would be the language spoken before God confused their language at the tower of babel. It would have been the language that Adam, and all men until the tower of babel spoke
---francis on 1/22/13


Job 33:14-
For God does speaknow one way, now anotherthough man may not perceive it. In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falls on men as they slumber in their beds, he may speak in their ears and terrify them with warnings, to turn man from wrongdoing and keep him from pride, to preserve his soul from the pit, his life from perishing by the sword. Or a man may be chastened on a bed of pain. God does all these things to a man twice, even three times to turn back his soul from the pit, that the light of life may shine on him.
---bike on 1/22/13


1 Jn 3(all)

11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
[...]
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment[...]
---char on 1/22/13


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"It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

"For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
---christan on 1/22/13


\\The reason all our translations have errors (too strong a word) is because the translators aren't following the Spirit? Perhaps you could follow the Spirit and give us a perfect translation.\\

One thing the Bible in ANY translation into any language makes painfully clear:

No mere mortal has ever done anything for God and gotten it 100% right.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/21/13


continued'

Gen 5:3 "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image, and called his name Seth:"

*Adams family-established through Sheyt as Abel was killed and Cain(qayin) expelled
Hebraic:Sheyt- establish/buttocks: "to set something in place"

*Consequence of a Greco-Roman world: Hebraic perspective is lost

*Greco-Roman world Perspective: (abstract) can not be related to the five senses: hearing, sight, touch, smell and taste

Thought: They must define God
Col 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through (philosophy) and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
---char on 1/21/13


I wonder in what language did God and Adam spoke to each other?

I wonder in what language did God and Noah spoke to each other
---francis on 1/21/13


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In reality the Bible is written in the language understood by a people in a certain place, and time. Greek was the universal language spoken in NT times, in the Roman world. Therefore it would be understood. If the NT was written in Hebrew, for example it would have had a very limited readership. We also need to understand that the Bible is God's word for mankind therefore it will be understood (by His power) by those who faithfully and patiently read it in their own language.

There are those who believe the KJV is the only version to be used. Sometimes I imagine KJV only people think that was the Bible the apostles, and those who followed immediately after them, used!
---Warwick on 1/21/13


Gen3:15

Hebrews: nomadic people
Language: connected with the nomadic lifestyle and culture
Perspective: (concrete) Culture, action, function---

Defined in things that are seen...Rom1:20

In the Hebrew language there is no difference between names and titles.
The character is the name.
Ysha: God Savior
Emmanuel: God with us
Shem: Name
Shemitic/Semitic- language spoken by the descendents of Abraham
Abraham: The Hebrew/eber "crosses over"
etc...

continued'
---char on 1/21/13


//"God inspired the sacred originals in Hebrew, Chaldee, and Greek. The actual Originals have not been preserved" Phil//

What exactly is incorrect with this statement, besides the addition of some Aramaic?

The reason all our translations have errors (too strong a word) is because the translators aren't following the Spirit? Perhaps you could follow the Spirit and give us a perfect translation.
---Rod4Him on 1/21/13


Where in any Bible does it say only the originals? are inspired? Who invented this doctrine and made it a fundamental of the faith? Do you believe that if you had the originals in your hands that you would get 110 volts of shock! Do you believe that if you had the real originals in your pulpit to preach from that your baptism count would go up? Some would put them in a display case

There is no verse in any Bible that say only the originals are inspired someone dreamed that one up sounds good just not scriptural.
---michael_e on 1/21/13


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"God inspired the sacred originals in Hebrew, Chaldee, and Greek. The actual Originals have not been preserved" Phil

All you're just doing is throwing smoke screen to your unbelief that God can even use a donkey to preach the Gospel.

Or in the words of John to the Jews, "and do not think to say to yourselves, We have Abraham as our father. For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones."

Not only do you not believe in God's Word but you have completely no regards to His Spirit, that only He can lead His people to all truth. However, to even believe in Him, Jesus declared, you have to be born of Him.
---christan on 1/21/13


Phil, it is pretty obvious that the orginals were inspired by God. The translations are not infallible. language change from originals made it impossible to be infallible. Words have changed, and new words have come out through history. Many do corrupt the Truth but most are good enough for teaching. Scripture interprets Scripture as a tool to use when a passage seems to contradict another. Anyone who studies knows that not all of the revisions are exact and truth. But that is the Word of God that we have. Many passages are simple enough for anyone to understand. A study on hermeneutics will help any interpretor. But many go into the Bible with the intention to look for faults. Their intention is not from God.
---Mark_V. on 1/21/13


God inspired the sacred originals in Hebrew, Chaldee, and Greek. The actual Originals have not been preserved

There are three great witnesses the Codex Sinaiticus, the Codex Vaticanus, and the Codex Alexandrinus. They are copies of the so-called "New Testament", written in the Greek language.

They are based upon compiling all Greek vellums and scrolls extant at the time.

This is the language God "chose", to preserve His words to us.

The modern versions [Revised, NASB, KJV etc.] are called "Bibles"

Those "Bibles" are translations of the Three Manuscripts, and are not "written by inspiration of God".
---Phil on 1/20/13


The Old Testament was first written in Hebrew. In about 200 BCE, the OT was translated into Greek in Alexandria, Egypt. Aristeas is somewhat responsible for creating the concept that the Greek translation, LXX-Septuagent, was inspired, similar to the way some people think of the KJV. Greek was one of the spoken languages at the time of Yeshua. To say that "God chose Greek" may be overstating and over simplifying the fact. That's a bit like, "Why did God chose English" to communicate to Americans?
---Rod4Him on 1/20/13


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I'm going to have to agree with Cluny on this. But it maybe helpful to expand the thought-did God exclusivly use Greek? No. Our Lord spoke Aramaic-there are quotations of Him in the New Testament where the Aramaic is quoted and transliterated-and Acts says He spoke to Paul in Hebrew (most commentators say this should be understood as Aramaic, but since it is a literary theme, I think Luke meant what he said-Hebrew). Some Aramaic which you may know which appears in the New Testament-Maranatha-Abba-and some Hebrew, Halleluyah, amen, and the oh so famous term Harmageddon.
---b.shetok on 1/20/13


Paul says, "For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more." (1 Corinthians 9:19) So, God would have him use Greek in order to reach more people, ones who did not speak Hebrew. After all, Paul was being used by Jesus to reach beyond the Jews, to us Gentiles (Acts 26:12-18), and Greek was a well-known Gentile language, I think, that could be used to reach Gentiles.

He says, "I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." (in 1 Corinthians 9:22) 1 Corinthians 9:19-22 shows how Paul became "as" the people he was reaching to. Becoming "as" would include speaking and writing what people understand.
---willie_c: on 1/20/13


Aka Cluny has answered well. Greek was as common a language during the sojourn of Jesus, as the language called "english" is today.
---Josef on 1/20/13


The Law and the Prophets were written in Hebrew. All the O.T. was written in Hebrew. Most of the N.T. is Greek. Some Aramaic. My view is 1 Corinthians 14:19 "But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue." In as much as I will like to know Hebrew and Greek, I have no motivation to learn them. I do believe that literal translations are better than dynamic equivalents or paraphrases. I am displeased with many translations in translating out the no, no word "virgin". Thus, the same Greek word, literal "virgin" after the mention of Mary, becomes girl, maiden, unmarried. Some just do not like the word "virgin". Knowing Greek is better.
---bike on 1/20/13


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On another blog it was stated: "[Greek] is God's choice of language.

It is nice to see that there are still some people with a sense of humour
---francis on 1/20/13


The NT was written in Greek (and the first translation of the OT was into the Greek called the Septuagint) for practical reasons.

Greek was the lingua franca of the eastern part of the Roman Empire--even as far as India--since the time of Alexander the Great.

And educated people in the Western part spoke and read Greek as well.

FWIW, Latin didn't become the official liturgical language of Rome until around 600.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/19/13


"But our God is in the heavens: He hath done whatsoever he hath pleased." Psalm 115:3

If Greek was God's preferred choice when the first Scriptures were written, what's that to us? And the Greeks were champions of paganism! Can't God speak and write in any other languages after the Greek version? Of course He can, that's why we have the KJV for people like us, in English. And if you like, there's also chinese, french, spanish etc.

I would rather think that the context of repentance to God and salvation through faith in Jesus Christ is far more important than "Greek is God's choice of language".
---christan on 1/19/13


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