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Did Cain Have a Nod Wife

Did Cain have a wife before he went to live in the land of Nod or did he meet her there? (G4:17) As a descendant (daughter, granddaughter...) of Adam & Eve, could she have been younger (a niece) or older (a sister) than Cain?

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Warwick:
I'll never understand the impetus for some alleged Christians to find fault with the simple, elegant truths of the Bible.
---jerry6593 on 4/10/13

Exactly! Since we're talking through a heeler. The simple elegant truth neither of you will touch. The Genesis argument is circular. He cannot prove there were not pre Adamic men that Cain married into. What does it really matter? Matt 10:24. He likes to dwell in Genesis hiding from present day and post Noah scripture I've posted. Intelligent enough to feel the pressure of multiple prophets,apostles scriptures against his doctrines. His pride at stake his heeler defending...he knows not what. Psalm 105:10.
---Trav on 4/10/13


Jerry you are correct. They will accept anything but the obvious.

I recently re-watched 'Expelled' which features Ben Stein interviewing scientists who had been removed from their positions for merely mentioning Intelligent Design. Sceptics ask why Creationist scientific papers are not printed in the scientific literature and Ben Stein shows why. One scientist was sacked for allowing an ID article to be printed in a scientific journal.

Towards the end Stein interviews Richard Dawkins the God hater. Stein unsettled Dawkins who babbled about-out there , somewhere, long long ago life was created by an intelligent being! Dawkins the passionate antiGod campaigning atheist actually believes in an intelligent Creator!
---Warwick on 4/10/13


Warwick: All this pre-adamic race nonsense is reminiscent of Fred Hoyle's Panspermia theory. They must have come from outer space.

I'll never understand the impetus for some alleged Christians to find fault with the simple, elegant truths of the Bible.



---jerry6593 on 4/10/13


Jerry as I am sure you have read I have challenged Trav to give Biblical support for the preAdamic Races and Gap Theory beliefs he has. He has had more than adequate time and I have received nothing comprehensible. He is all talk, and at the same time criticizes anyone who doesn't supply Biblical support for their views. We do call that hypocrisy.
---Warwick on 4/9/13


Warwick: Thanks for the compliment. Trav continues to make my case for me with his multitude of words. With all that blather, you'd think he'd occasionally say something of relevance.



---jerry6593 on 4/9/13




Trav I perceive in your unexplained comments re the 6th and 8th days that you are trying to say there are two versions of creation. This is not so: Genesis ch. 1 is the detailed account while ch. 2 is man-centered, recapping the creation of the man and woman, providing details not provided in Ch.1. It is not another creation account as it doesn't mention the creation of the earth, sun, moon, stars, seas, land, sky, sea creatures, creeping creatures etc.

Stick to what Scripture says, not what you would like it to say!
---Warwick on 4/8/13


Trav: Here's one for you:
Ecc 5:3 ... a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.
BTW, I still have no idea what a "heeler" is.
---jerry6593 on 4/7/13

Understandable. My Heeler doesn't have any idea either. Your master will explain to you. Or try online search engines.

Hey...you posted scripture. Probably appropriate, if you used a multitude of words we might think that about you. Good answer.
Try using multitude of scriptures and we might find two or three that we agree on. Example Heb 8:8/Jer 31:31.
Others fit as they fit.
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
---Trav on 4/8/13


There are no such thing as "preAdamic peoples."
---micha9344 on 4/8/13

Been a mystery since Noah. You certainly voted, and neglected to solve it.
Probably advise for the present Administration as well?
Meanwhile back on the ranch some of us may look at the:

6th day man & woman.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.

8th day Adam...over the Garden.
Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.
---Trav on 4/8/13


Jerry, take "heeler" as a compliment. A Blue Heeler is a uniquely Australian cattle dog. They are dogs with a goodly amount of genes from the Dingo, a wild native Australian dog. They are tenacious, intelligent and handsome, just like you. They are very protective of their owners.---Warwick on 4/8/13

Basically true. Don't think heeler is as handsome as mine. Silver tipped with blue undercoat. He is amazingly similar in his work though. He toils for his master....warwick. He dives in and nips a heel hoping to direct the subject to your satisfaction. Then, a love talk, and pat his little silver head. Heelers love the feet, continually licking an nuzzling. My dog would eat your heeler, is certainly true.
Isa 56:11..
---Trav on 4/8/13


There are no such thing as "preAdamic peoples."
---micha9344 on 4/8/13




Jerry, take "heeler" as a compliment. A Blue Heeler is a uniquely Australian cattle dog. They are dogs with a goodly amount of genes from the Dingo, a wild native Australian dog. They are tenacious, intelligent and handsome, just like you. They are very protective of their owners.
---Warwick on 4/8/13


Trav: Here's one for you:

Ecc 5:3 .... a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.


BTW, I still have no idea what a "heeler" is.



---jerry6593 on 4/7/13


Trav: I rest my case!
---jerry6593 on 4/5/13


Well heeler that's the easiest way again. You never had a case, or anything resembling your personal case. Your not even a decent sniper or blue heeler. You are running before you hit anything. Bite me when you can take a leg off with some scriptures.
You perceive yourself educated ....bite on "Everlasting" or "For Ever".
Show something besides you backsides.
Psalm 105:10
And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
Psalm 135:4
For the Lord hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.
---Trav on 4/6/13


Trav, You quote Scriptures which appear to have no relevance to the subject under discussion such as Heb 8:8 and Jer 31:31. How about explaining your point?
---Warwick on 4/2/13

A point you probably can't see. The point is made by your uneasiness to discuss. Hebrews and Jeremiah both show who the New Covenant was too. As well as thousands of supporting scriptures. The fact that you cannot/will not find these people from Revelations to Genesis is the "tell". The truth is truth whether it appeals to your doctrine or not.
The true search is for the Lost Sheep of the house of Israel....not the likely pre Adamic peoples.
Isaiah 9:8
The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.
---Trav on 4/6/13


Trav: I rest my case!



---jerry6593 on 4/5/13


Travesty: You're not well acquainted with the English language, are you?
---jerry6593 on 4/2/13

Ha, dat da bes u can come bak wid, bad lil jerrible the terrible?
Does yo momma know your playing with computer again?

What I am acquainted with is you.....and scripture you've never seen. Meat you've never eaten, pearls you may not be able to wear.
---Trav on 4/3/13


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Trav, I wrote to you as to a literate man. The Bible is literature and like all literature it contains many literary devices which illustrate a point but are not to be taken at face value. For example Isaiah 55:12 "... the mountains and the hills before you shall break forth into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands." I believe God did not imagine trees have hands or mountains sing. To imagine mountains sing would be to take the text literally. Those who trust God's word take it as read unless there is some good reason no to as above.

Genesis however is written in prosaic Hebrew somewhat like the style of a modern instruction manual and as the rest of Scripture shows it is to be taken as written.
---Warwick on 4/2/13


Trav, you still have not given any evidence to support your Gap Theory or pre-Adamic races beliefs, but you claim I resort to evasion! You cannot find any Biblical support for this nonsense but say I reject Scripture. The fact that these ideas are not mentioned anywhere in Scripture means you are supporting an argument from silence.

You quote Scriptures which appear to have no relevance to the subject under discussion such as Hebrews 8:8 and Jeremiah 31:31. How about explaining your point?
---Warwick on 4/2/13


Travesty: You're not well acquainted with the English language, are you?



---jerry6593 on 4/2/13


I am convinced we must take God at His word, taking Scripture as straight forward prose, and letting Scripture explain Scripture, unless there is some good reason not to do so.
---Warwick on 3/30/13

"Unless there is some reason not to"?
Well, truth hurts some and enlightens others. I find you rude and ignoring...on scriptures referring to Israel. Which you sidestep so adroitly.
Perhaps you want to compares some scriptures that there is no arguing about? No didn't think so. Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31 for a foundational argument.
I always find you past point of rude, an arrogant imposter. Ignorant, by evidence because you fool yourself and a couple more..
---Trav on 4/1/13


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(1) Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now JUSTIFIED ....

(2) Joh 17:17 SANCTIFY them ......

(3) Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing......

Rom 8:17,18 And if children, then heirs, heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.....

---jerry6593 on 3/29/13

Got off ur common "3 easy step" charts there jerrible.

Lets discuss this a little and see what "travesty" we can deduce from a few post. If you won't play, I'll just post some prophets and apostles for ya anyway.

Who is being spoken too above?
Who was promised?
Who is covenanted?
(Tip: Heb 8:8=Jer 31:31)
---Trav on 4/1/13


BTW I am still waiting to hear your Biblical proof of these antiBiblical views.

Your continuing reticence to provide proof is convincing proof itself that you have none.
---Warwick on 3/31/13

Ha, I posted that I believe there are more questions/research to be done.
I'm not afraid to consider, seek, find.
I find you defensive and frightened with no answers on anything of truth. You are doctrinally fearful because you do not believe in a righteous GOD.
You fear the implications of Israel's position.
Avoiding any discussion. I do believe that there will soon be all the proof that an old, Israel avoider can dread.

Matt 10:23 Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, til the Son of Man be come.
---Trav on 4/1/13


Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation,
---micha9344 on 3/25/13

Lets look at Acts a little deeper:
v17: The GOD of this people of Israel chose our fathers...
v23: Of this man's seed hath GOD, according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour...
V23:....the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel
v32,3 : ...how that the promise made to the fathers, GOD hath fulfilled the same unto "Their" children.

And many hundreds more in every book of scripture. Unavoidable....unless we are.
---Trav on 4/1/13


Trav, yes you are a rude and ignorant man. You do not know me but denigrate my character. I remember one time you continued a tirade of rudeness even though I did not reply. You have a problem.

You endeavour to avoid giving answers by writing waffle. Shadowy areas of Genesis indeed! I see no shadow there at all nor did Jesus and the apostles who quoted from or alluded to the first 11 chapters of Genesis no less than 107 times, and always as sober historical reality. No mention of your pet ideas of gaps and pre-Adamic races there. BTW I am still waiting to hear your Biblical proof of these antiBiblical views. Your continuing reticence to provide proof is convincing proof itself that you have none.
---Warwick on 3/31/13


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Steven, I agree.

I read an article which said "What happened was the 'enlightenment' when the common view went from Scripture judging man, to man judging Scripture.... Ultimately this resulted in new views of creation like the gap theory, day-age, and so on, ..." Dr Emir Caner president of Truett-McConnell College, Cleveland.

I am convinced we must take God at His word, taking Scripture as straight forward prose, and letting Scripture explain Scripture, unless there is some good reason not to do so. And a good reason is not man's changing views of long-ages/evolution. When God says He created in 6 days what Grammatical or Scriptural reason exists not to take these as the 24hr days man has always lived?
---Warwick on 3/30/13


You cannot apply worldly knowledge to understand spiritual matters.
---Steveng on 3/30/13

I agree with you and in part have posted on this topic for these reasons.
Two I've posted here prefer the shadowy area of Genesis. Scripture lights up their darkness...exception them. For instance two, Heb 8:8,Jer 31:31, having no answer for these and others they avoid, as they do over 7,000 other scripture witnesses and attributes too.
What has this to do with Genesis?
If their "truth" witnesses are absent by observation, in the New "Covenant"...how can they see the Old?
Truly as you imply... self logic at its worst doctrinally, most especially excluding the Prophets, Apostles, Christ own words.
---Trav on 3/30/13


Trav, as I said genetically speaking there are no sheep in my ancestry.
It is rude and ignorant of you to suggest otherwise.
---Warwick on 3/28/13

Rude and ignorant?
Your "rude" we call truth. You stated it was truth.
Ignorant of your admission? Ignorant of the signs of scriptural omission.
Ignorant of your doctrine that does not tell the "complete" truth?
Ignorance is being so caught up in yourself you cannot see your own.
Might be ignorant of many things about you personally. But, they aren't attractive when foundational truth is avoided. Scriptural light has no brotherhood with your doctrinal diversions, doctrinal ignorance might be applicable, (but it could never apply to you ,)
---Trav on 3/30/13


Steveng: Well said!



---jerry6593 on 3/31/13


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This unwinable debate surely shows that christians today are over educated in a worldly way and that the imagination has run rapid. It boggles the mind how chritians can see thing in the bible that are not there. The imagination and worldly knowledge of christians has taken on biblical interpretation to new heights. The increased of worldly knowledge has forced the christian to expand the bible in so many different ways and directions. When a christian cannot understand something, they use their imanginations to conjure up something to make the bible more understandable to their liking. You cannot apply worldly knowledge to understand spiritual matters. Christians today are pathetic and have fallen into the trap of the great delusion.
---Steveng on 3/30/13


Travesty: "Your 3 step doctrine sound [sic] canned, with no witnessing scriptures to back them."

(1) Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now JUSTIFIED by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

(2) Joh 17:17 SANCTIFY them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

(3) Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for GLORY and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Rom 8:17,18 And if children, then heirs, heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also GLORIFIED together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the Glory which shall be revealed in us.



---jerry6593 on 3/29/13


Trav, as I said genetically speaking there are no sheep in my ancestry. But Biblically speaking there are many sheep in my Christian lineage. It is rude and ignorant of you to suggest otherwise. From experience if I told you about the Christian lineage of my family you would say I was boasting.

But back to the point you support anti-Biblical doctrines such as pre-Adamic races and the Gap-Theory, despite the fact that Scripture contradicts both beliefs. You have made the empty claim that the Bible supports both but are unable to provide any such Biblical support. Where does that leave you in Christian terms, regarding faith and integrity?
---Warwick on 3/28/13


Ha. Jerrysixtyfiveninetythree. You'd like to turn the light off you, now that you flipped the switch on. Knew you couldn't answer the question in scripture....you did too. More meaningful when you reveal it.

Trav: How sweet. Take a nap.
---jerry6593 on 3/25/13


Well,
Your 3 step doctrine sound canned, with no witnessing scriptures to back them.
Provide scriptures for number 1. above.
Number 2 & 3 we'll dissect scripturally later.
---Trav on 3/24/13
---Trav on 3/27/13


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Trav, I am thrilled that genetically I bear no resemblance to a sheep.
I would love to answer your question but try as I may I cannot understand what you mean.
Such a man of faith!
---Warwick on 3/25/13

Thrilled you finally admit your heritage has no sheep.
Explains your avoidance of any scripture or discussion of them.
There is no Biblical/scriptural question, that you would possibly be authorized to answer...being no relation to the "Sheep".

Matt 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Jer 50:6
My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains:
---Trav on 3/27/13


Trav: You seem to be obsessed with sheep and vinegar.
Is there something about yourself that you are trying to tell us?
---jerry6593 on 3/26/13

Ha, are you sure your old enough to play here? Does your mommy know you are trying to use the computer? Go get her....now.

Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

Proverbs 29:20
Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
---Trav on 3/27/13


Trav, I am thrilled that genetically I bear no resemblance to a sheep.

God's word is always superior to man's opinions, scientist or not however genetics shows all humans are closely related, just as Scripture says.

I would love to answer your question but try as I may I cannot understand what you mean. You have reverted to writing nonsense again. Please explain your question in plain English and I will answer. Over to you.

What I do know is that the pre-Adamic races idea is not Scriptural as 1 Corinthians 15:45 proves. But you will not face the truth. You claim to trust God's word while at the same time rejecting it.

Such a man of faith!
---Warwick on 3/25/13


Trav, you claim there is Scriptural proof of the two creations idea but you are unable to supply any. You are inclined to throw irrelevant Scriptures into a conversation but cannot come up with the goods when needed.

In reality the two creations idea is an argument from silence propagated by those who prefer to believe man's long-ages/evolutionary theories rather than God's word.

You know nothing about me or you would not write such nonsense.
---Warwick on 3/26/13


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Trav: You seem to be obsessed with sheep and vinegar. Is there something about yourself that you are trying to tell us?



---jerry6593 on 3/26/13


Trav, ......You expose yourself by promoting the 2 creations idea which has no Scriptural support.... Such a man of faith! ---Warwick on 3/25/13

Well as I stated...there is more proof for than against. Exposed? I confess...my search goes where you tremble to go. You shouldn't but, you cannot accept the other end of the scripture. You hide in shadows of Genesis. The "sheep", were told not to intermingle. They did at times to their sorrow...and divorce. The re-marriage though is worthy of celebration. I celebrate what you abhor. Whether a sheep or sheepdog. I accept GOD as GOD.
He doesn't change what you must.
Heb 8:8. Jer 31:31
---Trav on 3/25/13


Warwick: Trav doesn't need Scripture, he has an active imagination. I'll bet he is a believer in theistic Evolution.
---jerry6593 on 3/25/13

Come on out of your closet an play Jerry. You don't have to use your model as a shield.
Lets get you off the vinegar bottle and start with a milk-steak.
Matthew 27:34
They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.

But, then these were not sheep either.
Neither will I drink your vinegar.

Ezekiel 34:11
For thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
---Trav on 3/25/13


Trav, as anyone with a little knowledge of genetics....

Such a man of faith!
---Warwick on 3/25/13

I have knowledge of genetics to the extent that I know you show no signs of a sheep.
This is the most important genetics in scripture!
Would you not agree?

I'll do a bizzaro warwick here and state that you will not answer the question with a direct quote or scripture. You may evade, hide or seeth but you will not answer.
John 10:1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
---Trav on 3/25/13


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Trav, as anyone with a little knowledge of genetics knows the fact that all the different people of the earth today can breed and produce viable offspring means they are all descended from the same ancestors. Scripture, which you claim to follow, says the first man created was Adam, our ancestor. But you will not believe Scripture because it contradicts a pet man-made theory of yours. You expose yourself by promoting the 2 creations idea which has no Scriptural support, in fact is contradicted by Scripture. If there was any Scriptural support for your 2 creations idea you would give it, but you don't, because there isn't any, but you believe it anyway! Such a man of faith!
---Warwick on 3/25/13


Micha: You've listed all valid Bible verses, but how do they tie in with (connect to) the blog questions? Please explain.
---Leon on 3/25/13


Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation,
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Gen 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel, because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
---micha9344 on 3/25/13


Warwick: Trav doesn't need Scripture, he has an active imagination. I'll bet he is a believer in theistic Evolution.


---jerry6593 on 3/25/13


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Trav, you would have us believe a very simple point evades you, i.e. that the pre-Adamic races idea is an argument from silence. It is not mentioned, nor hinted at in the whole of Scripture. End of story!
---Warwick on 3/24/13

End of your story perhaps. I would have you believe nothing. You are not a sheep, rather the opposite by scripture. Scripture being silent about you by name but, vocal with identification tools.
Genesis is not silent, but gives the two creations, in Gen 1 and in Gen 2. Eve was the mother of all living Adamites. Just as your wife is the mother of all "living", warwicites.
Rom 2:12, Rom 5:12-14.
---Trav on 3/25/13


Trav, you would have us believe a very simple point evades you, i.e. that the pre-Adamic races idea is an argument from silence. It is not mentioned, nor hinted at in the whole of Scripture. End of story!

You, of necessity avoid the fact that 1 Corinthians 15:45 describes Adam as "the first man" therefore unless you wish to argue that first does not mean first there was no man before him. Genesis 3:20 says Eve is the mother of all living. Therefore there is no person ever born who is not the descendant of Adam and Eve. That we are so closely related genetically, the one kind, and the one species lends scientific support to this.
---Warwick on 3/24/13


Trav, Genesis 2:4 reads "These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens." "Generation" is the Hebrew 'toledoth' which means 'account, record, genealogy', and has absolutely nothing to do with the length of the days of creation. The 6 days of creation and the 7th of rest are ordinary 24hr days as Exodus 20:8-11 plainly shows.

There are 11 'toledoths' in Genesis and none have anything to do with the length of the days of creation. For example see the 5th toledoth "These are the generations (or records) of Shem" Genesis 11:10.
---Warwick on 3/24/13


Mark_V.: "A certain passage might be for us today, others not."

ALL of scripture is written for our benefit - both bad and good.
---Steveng on 3/24/13


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How is it that some people reject the obvious to look for something strange, while ignoring the most basic of Bible doctrines?
---jerry6593 on 3/23/13

How indeed. I stated more witness pointed this way than popular doctrine examines.
As a seeking adult, I'll take my witness from GOD, Prophets, Apostles or participants accounts.
Anything other is... precept's of men.
Gen 1, GOD creates male and female. Gen 2 GOD creates Adam,then sees Adams need for a help mate. Gen 2:4, calls the original creation days was "Generations". Generation days could be 1,000 years. Cain married and formed a city. Gen 2,Adam was to dress an keep a specific area. Not replenish,fill,multiply as in Gen 1. Plus other differences.
---Trav on 3/24/13


Trav, cell phones etc are irrelevant to the point.
I am not at all interested in what Scripture does not say, but what it does say!
---Warwick on 3/22/13

But, then you make my point again. Even Apostles had to have scripture opened for them. Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures. Cell phones/computers are sign of blessings given or curses and therefore a heritage.
Scripture gives those who seek/see.....
You realize you cannot look or see, would annul your doctrine. Even if in error.
Scripture mentions Israel over 7,000 times. You avoid mentioning Israel that many.
Eve was the mother of all of Adam's offspring.
Your wife is the mother of all yours.
---Trav on 3/24/13


Warwick: Trav has mistaken "the land of Nod" as a specific place name, when it more accurately means exile, wandering or vagrancy. He was kicked out! And yes, Cain's wife was also a descendant of Adam and Eve.

How is it that some people reject the obvious to look for something strange, while ignoring the most basic of Bible doctrines?


---jerry6593 on 3/23/13


Trav, cell phones etc are irrelevant to the point. The point is what does Scripture say. 1 Corinthians 15:45 says Adam was the first man and Genesis 3:20 describes Eve as the mother of all living. Adam is the first man and Eve is the mother of all humans. Therefore those who propose pre-Adamic races do not do so for Biblical reasons. Think it through.

I am not at all interested in what Scripture does not say, but what it does say!
---Warwick on 3/22/13


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I find it compelling that Scripture never mentions a pre-Adamic race, therefore it is a belief built upon nothing.
Therefore those who propose pre-Adamic races do not do so for Biblical reasons.
---Warwick on 3/20/13

Scriptures do not mention Cell Phones nor Laptop computers. That doesn't make them any less real. Scriptures allude to increased knowledge, therefore some "See" or understand these blessings. Some understand the scriptural precepts and reasons for these blessings. You were not given, or led to seek or search truth earnestly. Ur testimony is otherwise. That you make it obvious and state such is a sign in itself.
Isa8:20, Acts 24:14.
---Trav on 3/21/13


I find it compelling that Scripture never mentions a pre-Adamic race, therefore it is a belief built upon nothing. Genesis ch. 1 begins at the beginning of creation and catalogues what was made on each evening and morning day. It mentions only Adam and Eve. Further 1 Corinthians 15:45 says Adam was the first man. That should be enough for the Bible believer. Genesis 3:20 describes Eve as the mother of all living. Adam is the first man and Eve is the mother of all humans. Therefore those who propose pre-Adamic races do not do so for Biblical reasons.

Let us stick to God's word, not mans fables.
---Warwick on 3/20/13


Trav: If not affected, wouldn't they be sinless/innocent by-standers witnessing Adam's sinful demise?
Wouldn't they still be among us today? Wouldn't they be as much sinners as we are today?
---Leon on 3/16/13

First, GOD is GOD. He can and will do what pleases him. Whether we understand or not. Our feelings of what is "Just" is our interpretation usually.
Those given the law are judged by the Law. Israel was divorced/put-away....because she fell under the law. No one else was divorced.
Galatians 4:5
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
---Trav on 3/19/13


Trav: If there were a pre-Adamic race of people, would they've been indirectly affected by the sin of a race begun by Adam & Eve? Would that be Godly just if they were? If not affected, wouldn't they be sinless/innocent by-standers witnessing Adam's sinful demise? Wouldn't these sinless, likely immortals beings, not be in need of a Savior? Wouldn't they still be among us today? But, wouldn't they likely have thoroughly mixed by now with the Adamic race of people, beginning with Cain's children? Therefore, wouldn't they now be as much sinners as we are today?

For me the pre-Adamic race theory is much harder to believe over what the Bible says about ALL of mankind originating from Adam & Eve, & being in need of a Savior.
---Leon on 3/16/13


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There are some who think that Mrs. Cain might have been of a pre-Adamic race.
But I don't believe one's salvation depends on what one thinks on this issue.
---Cluny on 1/27/13

I think it is possible...just as what you think may be possible. More witnesses lay with the pre than the latter.
Does it matter? It is there for consideration. Does truth matter? Or does any ole doctrine suffice. Truth is what is sought....and not always found. The loudest proponents of any doctrines ....propped up usually by self elected preachery types should be tested more than all. They will always run.....from truth stated Biblically more than once.
---Trav on 3/10/13


Leon, there's no conspiracy against you. What I oppose is adding to the Word of God what's not there. You say " we can connect with that, things we don't think are possible to understand might be shown to us". Not by adding to Scripture. What the Spirit reveals is the written Word, the Truth. Not what is not written. Just because we are alive does not mean we add to the Bible. I don't see my name in there. What the Bible does is give the meaning God wanted to convey to us believers. A certain passage might be for us today, others not. And to teach us how man went wrong and how God showed His love over and over to those who rejected Him. Scripture interpretes Scripture and the Holy Spirit reveals the truth of that Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 3/4/13


I do not believe that Cain had a wife before he went to the land of Nod, but I've seen my wife raise cain when she's talking and I start to nod.
---trey on 2/28/13


Clearance, please show scripture for ANYTHING that you just said.
---Jed on 2/28/13


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"Cain married a girl from Nod, she was a 6th day creation, Adam & Eve were created on the 8th day, two thousand years later.[?]"
---Clarence on 2/27/13


Clarence: Your 8th day comment doesn't stand up in the light of Scripture. It's heresy based on what some think were two created separate races of people, i.e., the 6th day version (hunter, nomadic) & 8th day version (Adam & Eve).

G2 dispels any notion God rested then resumed His earth realm creation on the 8th day. That implies God said, "Oh, I forgot, one more thing!" That doesn't square with the context of Scripture! The fruit eating "man" spoken of in G1:26-29 is the same "man" in G2 & 3.
---Leon on 2/28/13


"Cain married a girl from Nod,she was a sixth day creation, Adam and Eve were created on the eight day, two thousand years later."
---Clarence on 2/27/13


Sorry Clarence, but what you say about the "eight day" doesn't stand up in the light of what Scripture actually says. Your notion is based on what some believe were two distinct races of people, i.e., the sixth day version (hunter, nomadic) & eight day version (Adam & Eve).
---Leon on 2/28/13


Cain married a girl from Nod,she was a sixth day creation, Adam and Eve were created on the eight day, two thousand years later.
---Clarence on 2/27/13


FYI: The only reason I ask these questions is to somehow show bloggers the people in the Bible were more than just characters in a book. They were very much living, breathing PEOPLE LIKE US & we are extensions of them. If we can connect with that, then things we don't think are possible to understand might be shown to us.

We are living, "2013 Bible" characters with all the good & bad characteristics of people in the Bible (Gen.-Rev.). Bible genealogies show character traits were passed from generation-to-generation. Should we be surprised that we also have like tendencies?

Accusers of me & others of adding to the Bible, know this: Your being alive is adding to the Bible. You are spoken of in the Book! :)
---Leon on 2/8/13


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Cluny - my apologies. I should not have placed your name at the beginning of my last entry without a few extra words. It makes it seem I was challenging you when I was actually agreeing. A few extra words at the start would have made that clear but I messed it up - sorry.
---Rita_H on 1/30/13


\\There is no mention in any bible I have read that this might have anything to do with jealousy over a woman.\\

Did I say it WAS in the Bible?

I'm merely mentioning the Talmudic story, that's all. I didn't say I believed it, I don't.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/29/13


Cluny, the only jealousy referred to in the incident of one brother murdering the other was in regard to God being pleased with the offering of one and not pleased with the offering of the other.

There is no mention in any bible I have read that this might have anything to do with jealousy over a woman.

I don't think that we should assume, guess, imagine anything else. Let's just accept the words given to us by God Himself.
---Rita_H on 1/29/13


\\It seems obvious to me that his wife was his sister and they both moved to Nod and, there, started their family.
---Rita_H on 1/27/13\\

I was not going to mention this, but you opened the door, Rita.

There is a Talmudic/Rabbinic story that Cain murdered his brother Abel over jealousy for Abel's sister-wife.

I'm not saying I believe the story. Just mentioning it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/28/13


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"Did Cain have a wife before he went to live in the land of Nod?" Yes.
---joseph on 1/28/13


Why do you believe Cain had a wife before going to live in Nod?
---Leon on 1/28/13


"Did Cain have a wife before he went to live in the land of Nod?" Yes.
---joseph on 1/28/13


But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

2Timothy 2:23
---Pharisee on 1/27/13


No Cliff. I attempted to encourage the Moderator to entitle this blog "When & where did Cain's wife come on the scene?". That's nothing like what it wound up being. :)
---Leon on 1/27/13


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Because I believe that we all descent from Adam and Eve then I believe that Adam's sons procreated with Adam's daughters.

The bible does not say that Cain met his wife in the land of Nod, it says in Gen. 4:17 that it was there that his wife became pregnant and bore a son Enoch. It seems obvious to me that his wife was his sister and they both moved to Nod and, there, started their family.
---Rita_H on 1/27/13


There are some who think that Mrs. Cain might have been of a pre-Adamic race.

I personally think he married a descended of Adam and Eve (and Seth, for that matter) some years AFTER he was living in Nod (which word means "wandering").

But I don't believe one's salvation depends on what one thinks on this issue.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/27/13


The Bible does not give us much detail about this. However it does say that Adam and Havah had other sons and daughters. The rabbis tended to think that Cain took one of them. Cain and Havel where the first born, and tradition says they were twins-linguistically, the Heb. may support this-at any rate, his wife, would have been younger.
---dovidacher on 1/27/13


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