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Did Abel Have A Wife

Did Abel have a wife and children?

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Trav: Scripture you've referenced is true in every aspect. For that matter, I believe ALL Scripture is true & divinely inspired by God.
---Leon on 5/17/13

Verses below unify previous post Gen thru Rev:

Deut 32:8 When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the "sons of Adam", he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the "children of Israel".

Deut 10:15 Only the Lord had a delight in thy fathers to love them, he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.

Amos 3:2
You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
---Trav on 5/18/13


How does what you're now saying fit & substantiate what you've alluded to previously about there being a "first family" of man, into which Cain married, .....
---Leon on 5/17/13

Using scripture: Son's of GOD were who?
4 And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, "I have gotten a man from the Lord".

Sons of GOD thru (Adam) saw the daughters of men. Gen 1. Same daughters Cain married into.

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Luke 3:38
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
---Trav on 5/18/13


Trav: Again, the Scripture you've referenced is true in every aspect. For that matter, I believe ALL Scripture is true & divinely inspired by God. But, I fail to see the parallel/connection/context you're trying to establish concerning G1:26-28 & 2:7.

How does what you're now saying fit & substantiate what you've alluded to previously about there being a "first family" of man, into which Cain married, before God created Adam & Eve, his sons & daughters? Can you be more specific (connect the dots)? Thx!
---Leon on 5/17/13


Trav: The Scripture you give, though very true in every word, isn't in right context ....
---Leon on 5/15/13

Well, research the context. You say the scripture I posted is true in every word.
The book is about Adam and his generations.
Genesis 5:1
This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him,
Ezkiel 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
Rev 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
---Trav on 5/17/13


Trav: I'm not sure of where you're trying to go with your straw-man concept as it relates to the Bible account of God's creation of man versus what you say are two distinctly separate creations (families) of mankind. The Scripture you give, though very true in every word, isn't in right context to (doesn't fit) what were discussing. Please explain further what you mean exactly. Thx.
---Leon on 5/15/13




Go a step further, Leon.
Not only is the Gen1 race infected, there is no hope for salvation for this group, since salvation is only for Israel.
Crazy huh?
Since all were created by God.
---micha9344 on 5/14/13

Infected? You've infected the conversation with the word. You sir are a step short avoiding witnesses provided in Scripture.
Matt 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Luke 1:68
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Isaiah 43:1
But now thus saith the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name, thou art mine.
---Trav on 5/15/13


Yeah, you're right Micha. Absotively crazy! :)
---Leon on 5/14/13


Go a step further, Leon.
Not only is the Gen1 race infected, there is no hope for salvation for this group, since salvation is only for Israel.
Crazy huh?
Since all were created by God.
---micha9344 on 5/14/13


genesis 6:2 is referring to Godly men marrying ungodly women. if you notice genesis 6:4 is the beginning of a new statement. it is not a continuation of the previous text. just another example of being unequally yoked.
---shira4368 on 5/13/13


"Gen 6:1-2/ you give show "sons of GOD" Adams line marrying Gen 1 creation."
---Trav on 5/13/13


The first few reads, I missed it. You definitely are saying there's another specie of man that was first created before Adam!!! No Sir!

Please understand, Gl:26-28 (Sixth day) is an introduction & pause whereas G2:7 is an unpaused continuation the story of man begun in G1:26-28.

According to your two distinct specie of man, the first is yet sinless (spotless) & the second is sin sick & death doomed because of Adam. But wait, if what you say is true regarding G6:1-2, the first family of man is now as plague ridden as Adam's lineage having been infected by the SIN virus. Fantasy!
---Leon on 5/13/13




Trav: Man created in G1:26-28 differs from the G2:7 family of man (Adam)?! No Sir!

As God gave Eve to Adam, I believe Adam gave his daughters to his sons as wives. Later on Seth's "sons of God" wed the daughters of all the other men on earth (possibly daughters from Cain & maybe even Abel).

Everything couldn't possibly be written in the Bible. That's where the "MIRACLE" of God-given common sense comes alive, letting us efficiently connect the dots as we read & meditate upon Scripture, line-upon-line & precept-upon-precept.

Noah, a descendant of Seth, had a wife & 2 "married" sons. Based on G6:1-2, the 3 women could've descended from Cain & Abel.
---Leon on 5/13/13


Trav: I think you're saying Cain married one of his sisters? I agree! But, are we absolutely sure no one in the bloodline of Cain.... was on the Ark?
---Leon on 5/11/13

By the first family...I think Cain married a female of Gen 1 creation. Not Adams daughter. If Adam has given a daughter it would be stated.

I don't think Cain had a representative on the boat. Noah was described as perfect in his Generations. He was the last of the Adamic line as well as his family.
Genesis 9:1 God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, multiply, and replenish the (erets) earth. Replenish the erets=land/country.

Gen 6:1-2/ you give show "sons of GOD" Adams line marrying Gen 1 creation.
---Trav on 5/13/13


Trav, Bullinger, an expert in Biblical Greek, simply tells....

You probably meant 10:5, where Jesus initially limited His disciples to the Jews.

You promote Matt as 10:5 truth, while rejecting Matt 21:43, 28:19. Dishonesty!
---Warwick on 5/11/13

Matt 10:5/ was not limited to Judah...but all Israel.
Matt 21:43/ The stated nations Christ came for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel nations. He did not fail...for me, just for you.

Bullinger...is a man. A faulty guide as per your witness.
Scriptural witnesses 2 or more give truth. I don't see bullinger mentioned in scripture.
You place your faith in your logic and titles of men. A common weakness throughout history.
---Trav on 5/13/13


"...Cain married into the first family. His historically written line ended...as we'd expect it too. It had a negative beginning..".
---Trav on 5/11/13


Trav: I think you're saying Cain married one of his sisters? I agree! But, are we absolutely sure no one in the bloodline of Cain (or for that matter, even Abel) was on the Ark? (Genesis 6:1-2)
---Leon on 5/11/13


We do not need to add our own ideas or make guesses about what 'might' have happened.
---Rita_H on 4/30/13

There is a Genesis that many fear speculating on....for no logical reason really. This offends many fundamentalist but, answers most, questions we have.

Gen 1 gives in verse 27 male and female as creation.

Genesis two gives Adam and Eve as caretakers of the Garden. In which they committed error.
Cain married into the first family. His historically written line ended....as we'd expect it too. It had a negative beginning. The line of Adam and Eve continued as is recorded. Gen 5,1 This is the book of the generations of Adam.
Adam/Noah/Abraham/Moses/Israel/Jesus/Israel are the generations.
---Trav on 5/11/13


Leon, it was you who was complaining. Claiming I said something when i didn't. In conclusion, the Word of God does not tell us whether Abel married or not. It speaks of no marriage. In conclusion if you want to speculate go for it, I have not stopped you. You can speculate he had twins, and grandchildren. He could have been 90 years old when he got killed, You can speculate what you desire.
---Mark_V. on 5/11/13


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Markie: I'm not the one who is upset. Nothing you can say could possibly affect me like that. You "always" use that limp wrist comment to offensively strike out at me when it's obviously YOU who is mad! :D

So, in conclusion, "ABEL" could've had a wife & children! :)
---Leon on 5/10/13


Leon, as I said before, no one can answer you with a correct answer because you just don't like anyone's answer but yours. Here you question me about who were the people who might kill Cain, as if I was saying there was no one around but him. Here is what I said,
""...When Cain killed Able we're not given the time that had passed & how many people were already in the world. We also don't know that any other murders had occured. We only know of one mentioned, Cain killing Able. We can conclude it was the first one, because only one is mentioned. We also don't know the age of Cain when he killed Able. They could have been in their 80's...
---Mark_V. on 5/8/13"

Hello, you get mad for nothing.
---Mark_V. on 5/10/13


CONCLUDE: Bring something to an end.

CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE: That which is incontrovertible (plausibly undeniable) because it's so strong & convincing.

SPECULATE: To form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

Mark: I've "concluded" you have a very closed mind & , based on your posts, English must be a 2nd language. For whatever reason, you continue to deny the "firm evidence" (G4:14-15).
- Who were & why would "every one" want to slay him?
- Who were the "whosoever" & "any"?
- Cain had a wife & family (G4:17). Why do you think ABEL didn't?

Never mind! I know how you're going to respond. :)
---Leon on 5/9/13


Leon 2: and we can also conclude (speculate) that Adam was married with Eve even though the word marriage is not mentioned. But Jesus did say that when a man an a woman come together they become One, in answer to the question of divorce. I just say that some things are explained to us in detail and other things are not and it is for a reason. The question of babies going to heaven is also not explained clearly in God's Word. There is very little passages speaking about children. That is why there is so much miss-understanding concerning children. People make up all sorts of ideas why they should all go to heaven, or not go to heaven.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/13


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Leon, you can conclude what you want that is not written in the Word of God. That is your right. But you cannot proof it's true unless the Word of God says so. If you say so, it would be the word of Leon. If I say it, it would be the word Mark. Many things are not written. It was not the purpose of God to give us every detail of everything. Speculating that Able was married or not is only speculation. If we stay with the story, many things we are not told. We can conclude (speculate) Able's death was the first death, because no other killing is recorded.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/13


"...When Cain killed Able we're not given the time that had passed & how many people were already in the world. We also don't know that any other murders had occured. We only know of one mentioned, Cain killing Able. We can conclude it was the first one, because only one is mentioned. We also don't know the age of Cain when he killed Able. They could have been in their 80's...
---Mark_V. on 5/8/13

Leon 2, concerning my prior answer to you. I was speaking of the first death. When someone kills someone else the person dies. That was the really for my prior answer..."
---Mark_V. on 5/8/13


?!!!



So, in conclusion, "ABEL" could've had a wife & children! :)
---Leon on 5/8/13


Leon 2, concerning my prior answer to you. I was speaking of the first death. When someone kills someone else the person dies. That was the really for my prior answer. Peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 5/8/13


Leon, every response given to you were legit. When Cain killed Able we are not given the time that had passed and how many people were already in the world. We also don't know that any other murders had accured. We only know of one mentioned, Cain killing Able. We can conclude it was the first one, because only one is mentioned. We also don't know the age of Cain when he killed Able. They could have been in their 80's. Nothing is mentioned. Even Rita was correct, it was not important for God to say the word marriage and wife for some reason or another. Maybe He thought we would figure it out when He said, when two come together they become one, and that constituted marriage. Children were mentioned, but no words such as marriage or wife.
---Mark_V. on 5/8/13


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Mark: My reply to Vkerrid is about the sin of "murdering" people (DEATH BY ACTS OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE), not the sacrificial killing (slaying) of animals nor the sin sacrifice God made of His Son Jesus on Calvary. Also, it hasn't a thing to do with Adam's spiritual death (CAUSE BY AN ACT OF WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD'S WORD). That's an entirely different subject.

From what G4:23-24 says, it appears Cain's murder of Abel was the template (the model that set the precedence) for all other murders committed by men " & women". I believe Abel's murder was the 1st ever murder of a human being. But, if God hadn't put a mark on Cain, he may have been the 2nd human victim murdered by other people living at the time.
---Leon on 5/7/13


Leon, the first death that entered the world was by Adam. When he sinned he died spiritually, and later, physically. "Thy shall surely die" is a Hebrew idiom that makes the statement very emphatic. Adam understood this else Adam would also have been deceived. That brought death, separation from God for they begin to fear God and hid themselves from God. God made them coats of skin to cover them. To cover them, an innocent animal, who had done nothing wrong, had to be kill in order to provide an acceptable covering for Adam and Eve nakedness. Adam and Eve saw the first physicial death when innocent animals died to provide for them "coats of skin."
In the future, an innocent Person, Christ, died to cover our sins.
---Mark_V. on 5/7/13


"...This also tells me that Cain killing Abel wasn't the first murder..."
---vkerrid on 4/29/13


You're saying Cain was afraid of being killed because there likely were other killings before he murdered Abel? Interesting view, however I must respectfully disagree.

From what one of Cain's descendants said (G4:23-24), it appears the murdering of his brother Abel was the template (the model that set the precedence) for all other murders. I believe Abel's murder was the first ever murder of a human being.
---Leon on 5/6/13


Leon, what did Rita say that brought the response you gave her? Was it this sentence?

"It matters not whether Abel had married and had children."

Since we are not told they were married, when God considers marriage the union between a man and a women that she is wrong? Because what I see is that she meant was that since the word marriage is not found there it is not important. We should know that when two come together they become one, which is considered marriage by Jesus answer to the question of divorce.
---Mark_V. on 5/1/13


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Ms. Rita: You can believe as you choose based upon what you're willing to receive by faith from God's word. The Bible gives as much understanding as one is willing to believe & receive by faith. We're told to meditate (think constantly) upon the word, not just read it. When you get into the Word, the Word gets in you.

Please don't suppose you can tell others what to believe & understand because your underatanding isn't at the same level. Little faith, little understanding. Much faith, much more understanding.
---Leon on 4/30/13


It matters not whether Abel had married and had children. We should accept what we ARE told in the bible and not speculate about that which we are NOT told.

Incest was not a sin until God said that it was so brothers would have married sisters, later cousins would have married cousins, uncles would have married nieces etc. until God told them to marry far more distant relatives - and He did tell them that.

We do not need to add our own ideas or make guesses about what 'might' have happened.
---Rita_H on 4/30/13


/Did Abel have a wife and children?// Leon

"The bible doesn't say."

//If only Adam, Eve & Cain were the only people present at the time of Abel's murder, I believe the Bible would've called them by name// Leon

"There were likely many other people at that time because Gen 5:4 says "...and he (Adam) begat sons and daughters". Gen 4:3 says 'in the process of time', so we can infer that it was probably later in their lives when Cain murdered Abel."
---jason9835 on 4/29/13


Interesting view Jason! :) Can we then also infer (from Bible evident statements & our God-given ability to deductively reason the evidence) that Abel could've/may've, LIKELY had a wife & children?
---Leon on 4/30/13


"It doesn't say if they had or not...they lived long years, so before the killing, children & children were born & had already scattered. Hence Cain's response to God was that they would kill him if God sent him away from his people. This also tells me Cain killing Abel wasn't the first murder..."
---vkerrid on 4/29/13


Vkerrid: Interesting name. :) I agree, the Bible doesn't say directly, but it does indirectly imply there were more people living than Adam, Eve & Cain after the murder of Abel, & the FACT of the matter is Cain was definitely afraid of them.

You're saying Cain was afraid of being killed because there likely were other killings before he murdered Abel? Interesting view!
---Leon on 4/30/13


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//Did Abel have a wife and children?// Leon

The bible doesn't say.

//If only Adam, Eve & Cain were the only people present at the time of Abel's murder, I believe the Bible would've called them by name// Leon

There were likely many other people at that time because Gen 5:4 says "...and he (Adam) begat sons and daughters". Gen 4:3 says "in the process of time", so we can infer that it was probably later in their lives when Cain murdered Abel.
---jason9835 on 4/29/13


It doesnt say if they had or not, because that wasnt the moral of the story. Remember they lived long years, so before the killing, children and children were born and had already scattered. Hence Cain's response to God was that they would kill him if God send him away from his people. This also tells me that Cain killing Abel wasnt the first murder. The problem was the offering he gave to God was not a willingness or desire to please God.
---vkerrid on 4/29/13


If only Adam, Eve & Cain were the only people present at the time of Abel's murder, I believe the Bible would've called them by name in Genesis 4:14-15. Instead, Genesis 4:14 says "every one". Genesis 4:15 says "any". What do you think that implies?
---Leon on 4/29/13


Did Abel have a wife and children?-Leon on 1/27/13

"No"
---micha9344 on 2/24/13


Micha: Is that a "No", I don't think so or a "No", I know for a fact (without a doubt) Abel didn't have a family? Thank you for your reply. :)
---Leon on 2/25/13


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Did Abel have a wife and children?-Leon on 1/27/13

No
---micha9344 on 2/24/13


Q. Did Abel have a wife and children (males & females)?

A. G4 strongly implies there were other people (females & males), besides Adam & Eve, who cared enough about Abel (his sons & daughters, female siblings) to avenge his death upon Cain.

Frankly, I believe the primary focus of that early generation of sinful humans was procreation. Also, like today, I believe more females are born than males.

It's significant that Eve celebrated Seth's birth as a replacement for Abel. Perhaps she had birthed many girls, but seed bearing sons were seen as vitally necessary towards continued family growth.
---Leon on 2/23/13


"Hello Leon, and may I suggest that you look up Proverbs 28:1 and read it for yourself! The invisible mark was only to appease Cain. Mark was for God's own purpose. If you wish to understand more please go out and purchase some Bible-tool books."
---pat on 2/18/13


Okay Pat! I might be able to go with that, except G4:15 implies the mark the Lord set upon Cain was very real & clearly visible (NOT INVISIBLE) to any one who "saw" it. Again, I believe the sole purpose of the mark was to serve as a deterrence to the "every one" who might want & try to kill Cain.

Are you saying Proverbs 28:1 somehow applies specifically to Cain alone? I respectfully disagree. :)

---Leon on 2/19/13


Hello Leon, and may I suggest that you look up Proverbs 28:1 and read it for yourself! The invisible mark was only to appease Cain. Mark was for God's own purpose. If you wish to understand more please go out and purchase some Bible-tool books.
---pat on 2/18/13


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"Hope you are having a nice Sunday. I have some answers for you. I will get back to you soon with them. God willing!"
---pat on 2/17/13



I await & look forward to your answers Pat. Be blessed!
---Leon on 2/17/13


Hope you are having a nice Sunday. I have some answers for you. I will get back to you soon with them. God willing!
---pat on 2/17/13


"...Cain became paranoid, believing...every one would [seek] to kill him. So God appeased Cain [ & put] an invisible mark upon [him]...God banished Cain from His presence, this is why he became skittish [Prov. 28:1]. Did I answer your question?"
---pat on 2/15/13


Thx Pat. But your answers have given me more questions. :) Why would God put an invisible mark on Cain? How could something not seen by "every one" keep them from killing him? Wouldn't a visible mark be more of a deterent to "every one"? How does his being "skittish" relates to Proverbs 28:1? Apparently he had a very real, not imagined, problem. So, God likely visibly marked him as a warning to "every one".
---Leon on 2/16/13


Thanks Leon>>>Cain became paranoid, believing that everyone would be after him to kill him. So God appeased Cain by placing an invisible mark upon Cain, only for God's purposes...note: God banished Cain from His presence, this is why he became skittish [prov. 28:1]. Did I answer your question?
---pat on 2/15/13


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"He said, "what have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to Me from the ground Gen. 4:10. Abel was the second male child of Adam and Eve. He was a shepherd. God excepted his offering because of his character [right heart toward God]. Cain did not. In the NT Abel is regarded as the first martyr [Mt. 23:35, Heb. 11:4]. I can find no mention of wife and children."
---pat on 2/11/13


Pat: I believe if only Adam & Eve were present at the time, the Bible would've called them by name in Genesis 4:14-15. Instead, Genesis 4:14 says "every one". Genesis 4:15 says "any". What do you think that implies.
---Leon on 2/15/13


He said, "what have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to Me from the ground Gen. 4:10. Abel was the second male child of Adam and Eve. He was a shepherd. God excepted his offering because of his character [right heart toward God]. Cain did not. In the NT Abel is regarded as the first martyr [Mt. 23:35, Heb. 11:4]. I can find no mention of wife and children.
---pat on 2/11/13


FYI: The only reason I ask these questions is to somehow show bloggers the people in the Bible were more than just characters in a book. They were very much living, breathing PEOPLE LIKE US & we are extensions of them. If we can connect with that, then things we don't think are possible to understand might be shown to us.

We are living, "2013 Bible" characters with all the good & bad characteristics of people in the Bible (Gen.-Rev.). Bible genealogies show character traits were passed from generation-to-generation. Should we be surprised that we also have like tendencies?

Accusers of me & others of adding to the Bible, know this: Your being alive is adding to the Bible. You are spoken of in the Book! :)
---Leon on 2/8/13


FYI: The only reason I ask these questions is to somehow show bloggers the people in the Bible were more than just characters in a book. They were very much living, breathing PEOPLE LIKE US & we are extensions of them. If we can connect with that, then things we don't think are possible to understand might be shown to us.

We are living, "2013 Bible" characters with all the good & bad characteristics of people in the Bible (Gen.-Rev.). Bible genealogies show character traits were passed from generation-to-generation. Should we be surprised that we also have like tendencies?

Accusers of me & others of adding to the Bible, know this: Your being alive is adding to the Bible. You are spoken of in the Book! :)
---Leon on 2/8/13


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isn't it then none of one's business to probe into these "secret things"? Is this where God wants one to go?
---christan on 2/3/13
Proverbs 25:2 [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.
---francis on 2/7/13


Leon, why do you want to speculate? We can suppose many things but that is only suppositions, our own. Your own. Nothing that is Truth. The Truth is written. You want to write more truth, but you are not God. Many things we are not told, and if not told, you have no right to make them up. Do you not see your error? We have been trying to tell you but you answer with,

"A classic spin from an unlearned milky mouth. :)"
all that because he told you the Truth. Now you know what I was saying, that you ask questions and get mad at the responses you get. If you don't like them just skip them. Why do you add to Scripture? You are called not to.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/13


"The Bible in Deuteronomy 29:29 also declared: "The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.", which implies that if God never mentioned about:

- what the "fruit" in the garden was
- or as to whether Abel was married and he had children or not

isn't it then none of one's business to probe into these "secret things"? Is this where God wants one to go? I know that's where the serpent wants one to go instead of harkening onto the Word of God that's been "reveled" unto us."
---christan on 2/3/13


A classic spin from an unlearned milky mouth. :)
---Leon on 2/7/13


The Bible in Deuteronomy 29:29 also declared: "The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.", which implies that if God never mentioned about:

- what the "fruit" in the garden was
- or as to whether Abel was married and he had children or not

isn't it then none of one's business to probe into these "secret things"? Is this where God wants one to go? I know that's where the serpent wants one to go instead of harkening onto the Word of God that's been "reveled" unto us.
---christan on 2/3/13


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"God [didn't] say how many people [there were] after Adam [ & Eve]. I have often wondered how [large] the population [was] when God flooded the world...God didn't say how many [died] in the flood."
---shira4368 on 1/30/13


To imply is to strongly suggest the truth or existence of (something not expressly stated). God's word (Scripture/Bible) implies Adam & Eve were fruitful & thereby multipled in & outside of the garden. So, one can safely reason "multiples" (a multitude, a very large number) of people died during the flood. My guess is at least a few hundred thousand. An awful lot of begatting went on between Adam's to Noah's time ~ a few thousand years according to Gen. 5. :)
---Leon on 2/2/13


Leon, can you explain to me, how am I a classified a "white-washed sepulcher" when all I did was to tell you flat off the Scripture never mentioned anything about what the fruit was and there's also no mention of whether Abel had a wife or children? And yet you persist to go there and get everyone into a frenzy in your stupid guessing game?

You just can't get it into your darken heart that what God doesn't reveal, it's none of our business and to stay away from it. Maybe it's you who should stand in front of the mirror and ask yourself, if you're the "white-washed sepulcher". Or better still, go learn what a "white-washed sepulcher" means.
---christan on 2/2/13


Chris: Perhaps I should've said you're a white washed sepulcher! :) (Matthew 23:27)

Since you won't voluntarily go away, I choose to ignore you henceforth.
---Leon on 2/2/13


"You're a nasty lil customer who loves to argue self-righteous drivel while hiding behind scripture you don't understand." Leon

Oh, please don't flatter yourself to think I find pleasure in arguing with you. I don't hide behind Scriptures but use it to prove what you are saying is nothing but lies.

And if you think I'm nasty, what you've just written is supposed to be a fine example of what a non-nasty person is to be? Now, isn't that hypocrisy?

So long as you're speaking lies about the Holy Bible, and this is a free country, don't expect me to go away anytime soon. And neither would I expect you to disappear either.
---christan on 2/1/13


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"...you [claim to] see & yet you never made mention at all of what you see & that's because you see & know nothing...[? :)]...Do all these questions you [ask] profit anyone in the soul to know, let alone you?...That's what really matters."
---christan on 2/1/13


Chris: You're a nasty lil customer who loves to argue self-righteous drivel while hiding behind scripture you don't understand. Obviously, it hasn't occurred to you that if you don't like my questions you really don't have to participate? Why do you persist, especially since you apparently lack sufficient Bible insight & wisdom to respond to the questions? You're the one with snakes in his head. Please, go away ~ thank you! :)
---Leon on 2/1/13


Leon, the Bible is complete, you keep claiming you see and yet you never made mention at all of what you see and that's because you see and know nothing. Now you ask about whether Abel had a wife and children. If the Scripture makes no mention, why even bother? The serpent's really dancing in your heart and head right now.

Do all these questions you have profit anyone in the soul to know, let alone you? As the Seg has rightly said, everything was pointing to the One, who's the Lord Jesus Christ. That's what really matters.
---christan on 2/1/13


I guess it depends on the circumstances where one can lose their salvation. No unsaved unelect person has his name written anywhere...correct christan??

So exactly who was discussing the book of Revelation anyway.

We know there was no BOOK called the complete Bible when John wrote that. And it is singular, not plural as in BOOKS of the Bible.
---kathr4453 on 2/1/13


"...if there were any descendants, they would be listed in the [Bible genealogies]...Noah & his family were of the line of Seth...the only line [alive] after the flood...

...scripture...geonologies [don't] ever ONCE mention anyone coming from the bloodline of ABEL."
---kathr4453 on 1/31/13


1. Who were the "every one" & "any"? (G4:14-15) Were they Cain's parents, his siblings, his wife & children?

2. Is everyone living during the Old Testament times of Adam & Seth listed, by name, in the Bible? No, ONLY MALE CHILDREN of Adam & Seth.

2. True, Noah came from Seth, but where did his wife & daughters in law descend, i.e., Seth, Cain or Abel? (G6:1-3)
---Leon on 2/1/13


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"The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law." Deuteronomy 29:29

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18,19
---christan on 2/1/13


God did not say how many people God created after Adam. I have often wondered how the population got as many as there was when God flooded the world. Again God didn't say how many was killed in the flood.
---shira4368 on 1/30/13

No one was CREATED after Adam & Eve, they were BEGOTTEN, that is born from Adam & Eve. In ADAM all SIN.

God did say how many died in the flood...all but 8 souls.
---kathr4453 on 1/31/13


Leon, I agree with Josef, and knowing scripture, if there were any descendants, they would be listed in the gerontologists.

What we can be sure of, is that Noah and his family were of the line of S eth, and the only line who lived after the flood that wiped out all of humanity.

No scripture after, where also geonologies are listed ever ONCE mention anyone coming from the bloodline of ABEL.
---kathr4453 on 1/31/13


Did Abel have a wife and children?
---Leon on 1/27/13
Yes her name was Dis her children called her Dis Abel

Her first son was called Un, yes you guest it, Un Abel
---francis on 1/30/13


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God did not say how many people God created after Adam. I have often wondered how the population got as many as there was when God flooded the world. Again God didn't say how many was killed in the flood.
---shira4368 on 1/30/13


"Why ask questions that scripture is totally silent on?

How many Angels can stand on the end of a pin?"
---kathr4453 on 1/30/13


Are you totally sure Scripture is silent regarding the question? Your "Angels" question isn't even Bible related. Mine is! :)
---Leon on 1/30/13


Why ask questions that scripture is totally silent on?

How many Angels can stand on the end of a pin?
---kathr4453 on 1/30/13


Leon - you are the one who asked the question which gives the impression that you would like an answer. However, your own comments added here appear to be telling some of us that you actually know the answer and are trying to tell us to seek it.

Personally, I feel that if you have found a verse which indicated that Abel DID have a wife you are wrong to be keeping this to yourself.

If you have something to share, then share it - otherwise you should drop the subject.

Scripture is not something to 'tease' others with, it should be used to help and give instruction and guidance.
---Rita_H on 1/30/13


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Leon, many are not paying attention and you did say their are blind spots that blind believers from seeing things. But you have an answer for that when you answered Rita, "seek and you shall find" didn't you stop to think as you said, she might be seeking but the blind spot is there? No one can answer you, everyone is getting blind spots. We would like to get to your level. Help us out, tells us what you see.
---Mark_V. on 1/30/13


Seek and you will find Rita_H! :)
---Leon on 1/29/13


This is one of those questions which there is no point in asking - because we will never know the answer.

All that is in the bible is for us to learn from. Had it been necessary for such information to be left for us to know God would have ensured that the information was there for us in HIS WORD.

If it was not necessary for God to tell us then it is not important that we should know
---Rita_H on 1/28/13


Please note Josef, Cain isn't listed in G5 either. If it weren't for God purposefully & specifically listing his children in G4:17-24, we might also think he was childless.

Who were the unnamed "every one" Cain feared (G4:14)? Were they only his parents or might there have been other people, e.g., unnamed siblings, nieces, nephews) living besides his parents (see G4:15)? Who were the "any"?

Multitudes of people aren't named in Scripture, but Bible passages nonetheless point to their being there (veiled, in the background).
---Leon on 1/28/13


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"Who can tell?"
---Pharisee on 1/27/13


Sir! God can tell if you pay attention to what He says in the Bible. :)
---Leon on 1/27/13


Did Abel have a wife and children? No.
Abel is not listed in Adams genealogy for specifically that reason. Had he had children both he, as the first male descendent of Adam, and at least his first born, would have been listed either in Genesis 5 or the chronicles. He is not. But rather it is written "Adam knew his wife again, and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, [said she], hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew."
---Josef on 1/28/13


Who can tell?
---Pharisee on 1/27/13


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