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Does the Bible say the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden was a fig tree? If so please show the verse that states that.

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---Cluny on 2/8/13

Hebrew scholar I am not for sure, but love to study.
Point being, I literally had to look up Genesius here's what I found,

Saint Genesius of Rome (died c. 286 or c. 303) was a comedian and actor who worked in a series of plays that mocked Christianity. One day while performing in a work that made fun of baptism he received sudden wisdom from God, realized the truth of Christianity, and had a conversion experience on stage.(wikipedia)

Is this the same?
Thanks for the info cluny, Ill look into this.

Shalom
---char on 2/8/13


FYI: The only reason I ask these questions is to somehow show bloggers the people in the Bible were more than just characters in a book. They were very much living, breathing PEOPLE LIKE US & we are extensions of them. If we can connect with that, then things we don't think are possible to understand might be shown to us.

We are living, "2013 Bible" characters with all the good & bad characteristics of people in the Bible (Gen.-Rev.). Bible genealogies show character traits were passed from generation-to-generation. Should we be surprised that we also have like tendencies?

Accusers of me & others of adding to the Bible, know this: Your being alive is adding to the Bible. You are spoken of in the Book! :)
---Leon on 2/8/13


2nd posting-
Continued'

//because many times they have nothing whatsoever to do with the blog question. I just assume they are all correct. ---Mark_V. on 2/7/13//

If you think I'm doing this- maybe you can say,
"char, I think you're doing that sesame street thing again" and Ill know that means you think, "One of these things is not like the other" :)

Hebraism is concrete - Greek is abstract. Idioms are difficult to understand with abstract thinking. If I posted something, I probably see a connection - it will take time to explain.

You still have three weeks so - behave - I may just pop you upside the head with an unripe fig (I jest).

Shalom :)
---char on 2/8/13


FYI: The only reason I ask these questions is to somehow show bloggers the people in the Bible were more than just characters in a book. They were very much living, breathing PEOPLE LIKE US & we are extensions of them. If we can connect with that, then things we don't think are possible to understand might be shown to us.

We are living, "2013 Bible" characters with all the good & bad characteristics of people in the Bible (Gen.-Rev.). Bible genealogies show character traits were passed from generation-to-generation. Should we be surprised that we also have like tendencies?

Accusers of me & others of adding to the Bible, know this: Your being alive is adding to the Bible. You are spoken of in the Book! :)
---Leon on 2/8/13


2nd posting:
//Isa 26:3 Thou will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on thee, because he trusts in thee.
---aka on 2/6/13// ---Love this, thank-you.

I have considered changing to penpal vs. blogging. It would be nice to exchange studies, I have some Hebrew materials. I would love to touch base with chria,(I keep miss spelling) and I dont always have this time to spend here. Anyway, Ill pray on it, Lord willing. God bless akafamily complete.

Leon,
I think you may have an eye for Hebrew idioms - Thank you for your blog questions brother.
God bless you, aka (must stay), markv, cluny, shira, warwick, Joesph, Josef, kathr, chira(miss her) etc...etc...etc

We are brothers and sisters In-Christ
Shalom
---char on 2/8/13




\\strongs #, Hebrew letters, definition etc...trusting the Holy Spirit.
\\

Strong's lexica in the back of his concordance might be useful for unlearned people, but they are not the last words (no pun intended). Real Hebrew scholars use Genesius.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/8/13


FYI: The only reason I ask these questions is to somehow show bloggers the people in the Bible were more than just characters in a book. They were very much living, breathing PEOPLE LIKE US & we are extensions of them. If we can connect with that, then things we don't think are possible to understand might be shown to us.

We are living, "2013 Bible" characters with all the good & bad characteristics of people in the Bible (Gen.-Rev.). Bible genealogies show character traits were passed from generation-to-generation. Should we be surprised that we also have like tendencies?

Accusers of me & others of adding to the Bible, know this: Your being alive is adding to the Bible. You are spoken of in the Book! :)
---Leon on 2/8/13


/Maybe you feel that way because I believe I'm the only one who questioned something you wrote down.--Mark_V. on 2/7/13//

Nope.
I have stated before, I strongly encourage that people don't believe me or any other. This is vital. We must check, strongs #, Hebrew letters, definition etc...trusting the Holy Spirit.

//I for one many times cannot make out what you are saying and putting passages with their original words, because many times they have nothing whatsoever to do with the blog question. I just assume they are all correct. ---Mark_V. on 2/7/13//

We can't assume - We must check -yet - once misquoted a decoy begins and is not helpful.

Gods Word is the beginning - literally -Aleph to Tav,

Continued'
---char on 2/8/13


Sis. Char 2: you said,

"Then I have decided to put you on restriction youngman - I'm thinking maybe three weeks or so.
You are the brattiest brother I have so far"


Maybe you feel that way because I believe I'm the only one who questioned something you wrote down. Your use to getting positive responses. I for one many times cannot make out what you are saying and putting passages with their original words, because many times they have nothing whatsoever to do with the blog question. I just assume they are all correct. But this time I checked because of the Paga you put down, and wanted to make sure the word was correct. That is another reason I answered you. Peace I leave you from the corner of the room.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/13


Prasing God - He is Holy, He is Spirit.I pray mercy and Grace to "stay on path.'

//You gave life to the notion that the tree was a fig tree.---Mark_V. on 2/7/13//
Hmm...I see now why as to My replies ...were and perhaps still not understood.


{{ //There are good figs and bad figs: an unripe fig is - out of season.Hebraic perspective is function/action - figs that (function/good) and (dysfunction/bad).
*Knew naked (uncovered)-Covered themselves with fig leaves ---char on 2/2/13//
-//Hebraism:function/action. ---char on 2/4/13// }}


Figs- Possible idiom for mankind (unripe or ripe).

Again:
//There are good figs and bad figs.//

Concrete things for abstract thought.

Continued'
---char on 2/7/13




As to:
//And the Lord has (paga) fig) on Him the iniquity of us all" Mark_V. on 2/5/13//----I did not type this.

(I believe) its not good to willingly misquote people - an act of deceit.
So, giving - benefit of the doubt,
// past replies to you- I will take the responsibility upon myself-of not making myself clear.--char on 2/5/13//

//reason His Word Became Flesh----intercessor.
One can become what He intended[...] ---char on 2/3/13//

//Our sins fell on Jesus so we can become what He intended[...]
Children of light-char on 2/6/13//

Is 53:6
6 All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
---char on 2/7/13


Aka, I wish you did not have to leave us all. Many reasons for that, even though you reject much Scripture that I have given you. I know you are a brother in Christ, and have your own opinions different then mine, but that doesn't stop me from wishing you and family nothing but blessings where ever you and they go. Every once in a while keep us in mind. Too many have disappeared never to be heard from again. Still waiting to hear from Darline. Peace and blessings I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/13


Sis. Char, I'm glad you have clam down, do take a deep breath. I do not mind. Thanks for putting me in my place. Did you even realize what you did with your answer? I don't think you did. You gave life to the notion that the tree was a fig tree.
If you had put an explanation after your quote no one would have continued with the fig. If you do look closely at that passage (Is. 53:6) you will know that God was laying the iniquity of us all (our sins) on Jesus Christ, no figs there. I do not think I got it wrong. A small explanation from your passage would have been very useful. But I will take your discipline out of respect.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/13


God Bless you and your family----Complete.

Shalom aka4889
---char on 2/6/13

//I must wish you a final shalom. //

there is no final shalom...is there?

especially since completeness ... is from Aleph to Tav!

so, i just bid you shalom...

Isa 26:3 Thou will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on thee, because he trusts in thee.
---aka on 2/6/13


Mark V.
after taking some time to cool off - I decided to send you to sit in the corner for fifteen minutes and think about what you have done.
Then...to your room without supper for you.

Then I have decided to put you on restriction youngman - I'm thinking maybe three weeks or so.
You are the brattiest brother I have so far

God's mercy and grace is so great-Praising God for the joy of the Lord.

:)

Shalom
---char on 2/6/13


Mark V. You have continued to twist words I have posted and now you use
"Your twisted words" claimed as others.

You continue to add to the Word of God in attempt to bear false witness.
"Your Twisted words" have been printed and documented.
To God be the judge of them.

As to adding,
//"God (fig-ed) (Him) who is Jesus Christ the iniquity of us all."-///(These are Your words--no one elses)
//How easy the truth can be turn into a lie// ."---Mark_V. on 2/6/13//
You stated your very act.

To God be the judge of them.

Praising God and thankful He witnesses all things - He is truth.

I have been very patience with you.

I will not cast pearls.
---char on 2/6/13


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//---aka on 2/6/13//
Thanking God -for your acts as true brother In-Christ,
1 Pet 3:8-9

Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing, knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
1 Pet 1:22-23
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

God Bless you and your family----Complete.

Shalom aka4889
---char on 2/6/13


Is 53:6
6 All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Jn 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
---char on 2/6/13


char, I believe you have been here as long as I have. you have been quite a blessing to me and my relationship with Jesus as well as a few others. but, my season has passed and I must wish you a final shalom.

you suggested Hebrew for Christians If there is any other site that you favor...please let me know.

if you have the inclination to write.

aka4889
---aka on 2/6/13


"leon, ignore cluny. he acts the same no matter who post what. he responds to everyone in a negative manner. I would sure hate to be his wife. I'm afraid I would run away. you are free to put your opinion on these blogs but sometimes we need thick skin. I have learned to be like a duck, let it roll off like rain off a duck."
---shira4368 on 2/6/13


Shira: Perhaps a daily diet of figs would help clean out Cluny's pipes & he would feel, & think so much better. :D

Seriously, let's pray God's blessings on Brother Cluny. The enemy of our soul is bent on dividing, conquering & destroying believers here on CN.
---Leon on 2/6/13


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*[pag]-(parent root)stgs #6291 to be torpid, i.e. crude, an (unripe) fig:-green fig.
*[paga] stgs6293 a prim.root, to impring, by accident or violence, or (fig.)by importunity:--come (betwixt), cause to entreat, fall (upon), make intercession, intercessor, intreat, lay, light [upon], meet (together), pray, reach,run.

Blue letter bible with strgs # Is53:6
All we like sheep(6629)have gone astray(8582),we have turned(6437)everyone(376)to his own way(1870), and the LORD(3068) hath laid(6293) on him the iniquity(5771) of us all.

Our sins fell on Jesus so we can become what He intended.----(idiom)-unripe fig to ripe fig.
Children of light
Consequence of or punishment death-removed. Heb 2:14
---char on 2/6/13


leon, ignore cluny. he acts the same no matter who post what. he responds to everyone in a negative manner. I would sure hate to be his wife. I'm afraid I would run away. you are free to put your opinion on these blogs but sometimes we need thick skin. I have learned to be like a duck, let it roll off like rain off a duck.
---shira4368 on 2/6/13


Cluny: Why are you so slow (dull) of hearing? On Jan. 27th I said, "the Bible MAY MENTION"... Then, on Feb. 1st I went on to indicate the name of the fruit that "I believe" the Bible MAY MENTION is the forbidden fruit ~ the FIG.

Again, what's quite apparent, is you can't get pass my alluding to your being too blind to see. It's all about your pride being injured. That's what you're really hung up on. Isn't it?

Get over it! Repent & this time give the "glory to Jesus Christ" for real!
---Leon on 2/6/13


Leon make a false statement and some of you bought in to it. As far as adding "God (fig-ed) (Him) who is Jesus Christ the iniquity of us all." which gave the suggestion that maybe Leon was right, that the tree was a fig tree, and suddenly answers were about a good fig or a bad fig, are which comes first, the leafs or the fig. How easy the truth can be turn into a lie and most buy in to it.
There is no fig on Jesus Christ, and no mention of the kind of fruit God told Adam not to eat because God never mentioned the kind of fruit the tree produced. God did not say, "do not eat one fig from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat,". That's not true.
---Mark_V. on 2/6/13


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\\ I only suggested the fruit MAY HAVE BEEN a fig. Nothing dogmatic about that as you falsely allege.
---Leon on 2/5/13
\\

What Leon ACTUALLY posted on 1 Febru,ary:

**FIG!!!!!!!

Right before your blinded eyes (the first fruit mentioned in the Bible) & I included the word numerous times in my replies to those who repeatedly railed against me, but you didn't see it. Incredible!!! :) So, it is with much written in the Bible, hidden in plain sight against the proud & arrogant who reason according to the flesh, not in the spirit.
---Leon on 2/1/13**

Question: Did Leon lie on 1 Febuary or on 5 February about what he said?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/5/13


//---shira4368 on 2/5/13//

What a blessing to enjoy them year round.

Here's the info regarding (breba)hort.purdue.edu


*Fig trees usually bear 2 crops a year, the early season ("breba") fruits being inferior and frequently too acid, and only those of the second, or main, crop of actual value.

Shalom
---char on 2/5/13


yes, I know figs because they get to be a nuisance after you pick so many. then the wasp and bees take over. even the birds eat the fruit from the top of the tree. it grew big enough for me to climb into it. love them figs tho. they clean your pipes out.
---shira4368 on 2/5/13


// you imply that God fig Jesus Christ[...]--Mark_V. on 2/5/13///---Huh? :(
Twisting words ----My reply remains:
//Any false witness against me - I will leave it up to God.
*Praise God for discernment.//
I will add, I will only do this for so ---longpraising God for the fruits of the spirit-patience, long suffering, self controletcGal 5:21-26
As in the past replies to you- I will take the responsibility upon myself-of not making myself clear. --firstafter so many replies of //not what I said// I will have to act on discernment and //leave it up to God.
*Praise God for discernment.//

Shalom
---char on 2/5/13


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//---shira4368 on 2/5/13
---aka on 2/5/13//
//---shira4368 on 2/2/13//
Mercy me, thanks shira,
Heres what I see, the first crop [breva-First Fruits] is bitter and the second crop is sweeter (in season.
Israel: Matt 21:19-20
Thanks for the call out,

God bless you,
Shalom
---char on 2/2/13//

God bless you both.
Shalom
---char on 2/5/13


aka, I wasn't disagreeing with you but wanted you to know I sold my home this summer and it had a giant fig tree in the backyard. we got figs off that tree for 15 years. so did the honey bees like it too because there were honey bee hives on the property next to our house.
---shira4368 on 2/5/13


...I think the Bible MAY MENTION the type of fruit it was, but because it's in plain sight many of us tend to overlook it. That's probably because we humans have all kinds of preconceived ideas (blind spots) regarding what "the Bible says".
---Leon on 1/27/13

Jed: I think because you're seeing red you missed what I really said. Note, I included myself in the "blind spots" category. You speculated & so did I! I say it MAY HAVE BEEN figs. That's what I believe. Do you really mind? :)
---Leon on 2/1/13


Cluny: Like Jed you're seeing red & subsequently unclearly. I only suggested the fruit MAY HAVE BEEN a fig. Nothing dogmatic about that as you falsely allege.
---Leon on 2/5/13


shira. I cannot post where I got my info. but I know the fig is sweet. I never said that it was not.
---aka on 2/5/13


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To claim dogmatically, as Leon did on the closed blog on this subject, that the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was a fig tree is wrong for several reasons.

Among others, the OT talks about people sitting under the shade of their own vine and FIG TREE.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/5/13


Char, first, you are correct, God will judge us all by what we did here on earth. And while we are here are earth, we can correct someone who we believe is wrong for the glory of God. I did not twist your words. Concerning (Isaiah 53:6) in the context, you imply that God fig Jesus Christ, because everyone had gone astray.
"All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned, every one, to his own way. And the Lord has (paga) fig) on Him the iniquity of us all"
Him, in this passage is Jesus Christ. What does the fig do to Jesus Christ? Was the fig removed? Is Jesus still fig? How about all of us, are we fig because Adam ate from the fig tree? I am sorry, but none of that make any sense.
---Mark_V. on 2/5/13


aka, I don't know where you got your information about figs, but they are a delicious fruit and very sweet. I would say that any fruit is bitter if it isn't ripe. I have used figs to make breads, preserves, mix with strawberry jello they make a delicious strawberry preserves or jelly. I have even pickled some. the fig has many nutrients. even the honey bees like them.
---shira4368 on 2/5/13


francis: "The tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden was a quince"

Now just where did you get that pearl of wisdom? From your college biology book again? It certainly was not from the Bible.


---jerry6593 on 2/5/13


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intersesting...Adam and eve chose fig leaves that sprout way before the fig sprouts. God covered them with animal skins.. requires sacrifice.

Jesse Christ..... the ripened fig sprouts... the one sacrifice that pleases the father. Jesus orders the useless fig tree cut down.

completely...shalom ... peace
---aka on 2/5/13


did you know that a fig cannot ripen in the shipping process like other fruits?

if it it not ripened on the tree, a fig is bitter and cannot be used even as a by-product. it is useless.
---aka on 2/4/13


Hebraism:function/action.

[pag]-(parent root)stgs #6291 to be torpid, i.e. crude, an (unripe) fig:-green fig.

markv//So, everyone who has gone astray "the Lord hath fig on him the iniquity of us all"//
:(

My post-//Is 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath [laid-paga] on him the iniquity of us all.//--stg6293

Twisting words is bearing a false witness - dysfunctional act.

Hebraism: an (unripe) fig.

My reply remains:
//Any false witness against me - I will leave it up to God.
*Praise God for discernment.//


Praise God He positioned His Word as building blocks set in stone to be the plumb-line for balance.
---char on 2/4/13


//---aka on 2/4/13//
Thank you brother, to God be the glory.

1Jn3 (all)
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deed and in truth.
Phil 2 (all)
2 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Shalom-complete :)
---char on 2/4/13


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Hebraism:function/action.

[pag]-(parent root)stgs #6291 to be torpid, i.e. crude, an (unripe) fig:-green fig.

markv//So, everyone who has gone astray "the Lord hath fig on him the iniquity of us all"//
:(

My post-//Is 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath [laid-paga] on him the iniquity of us all.//--stg6293

Twisting words is bearing a false witness - dysfunctional act.

Hebraism: an (unripe) fig.

My reply remains:
//Any false witness against me - I will leave it up to God.
*Praise God for discernment.//


Praise God He positioned His Word as building blocks set in stone to be the plumb-line for balance.
---char on 2/4/13


//Char, ok, you win//

Char...I did not know there was a competition to teach each other. Some people neither see in pictures nor do they see the significance.

Half ripe figs stuck in concrete thoughts.

May the lord bless you and your family completely.
---aka on 2/4/13


Ditto aka!
---Leon on 2/4/13


//Char, ok, you win//

Char...I did not know there was a competition to teach each other. Some people neither see in pictures nor do they see the significance.

Half ripe figs stuck in concrete thoughts.

May the lord bless you and your family completely.
---aka on 2/4/13


Char, ok, you win, the passage then says,

"Is 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath [laid-paga] on him the iniquity of us all."


So, everyone who has gone astray "the Lord hath fig on him the iniquity of us all"

The Lord fig all of us. Great answer.
---Mark_V. on 2/4/13


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Jed, yes I am aware the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life are completely different trees.
---Warwick on 2/3/13


//---aka on 2/3/13//

I love this aka,
His Word is complete.

God bless you brother...

Is 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath [laid-paga] on him the iniquity of us all.

Shalom (complete)
---char on 2/3/13


Mark_V. on 2/3/13
// In (Isa. 53:6) the word "laid" is not a "fig". //----not what I said.
// "indeed My hand has "laid" the foundation of the earth" (Isa. 48:13) He was not talking about a "fig." //---------(laid-[shin-mem] This is Not the same word (stg 7760) which is why I didnt use it.

(My post)
//"pag" (unripe fig)-root of paga ///-- (Root of Paga) stgs 6293
As to the [pagha] the parent root (single syllable of two Hebrew letters) is the same [pey and gimel] and the child root is [pey,gimel,ayin] (p-pey, g-gimel, a-ayin), this word is also used for (impinge, pray, intercession, reach etc...)

continued'
---char on 2/3/13


continued'

Beauty of Hebraic perspective: they used (concrete) experiences-touch, smell, feel, see, ear
To be complete (Hebraic perspective) is to be ripe, if not complete one is a fruit - not ripe (unripe fig)
"One unable to fulfill the role intended"
The Very reason His Word Became Flesh----intercessor.
One can become what He intended----children of light.

Is59:15-16
Yea, truth faileth, and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no (intercessor [paga]): therefore his arm brought salvation unto him, and his righteousness, it sustained him.

Shalom
---char on 2/3/13


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agreement-

there are two seasons of fig tree fruit production in one year. the spring crop where the leaves proceed the figs (inverted flowers) is called the breba fig crop. "Breba" crops appear -- if at all -- in late May, well after the leaves have opened on fig trees." the fall crop appears in plenty "before" the leaves in spring. Breba Fig Crop - Common fig trees (Ficus carica) offer an early crop of figs, grown on the prior season's growth. Main Fig Crop - The principal commercial fig crop arrives in the fall, which is when figs appear in farmers' markets and grocery stores around the country.
---aka on 2/3/13


The word "pagha" has many meaning but never for a "fig."
---Mark_V. on 2/3/13

From The Online Etymology Dictionary :

fig (n.) early 13c., from Old French figue (12c.), from Old Provenal figa, from Vulgar Latin *fica, from Latin ficus "fig tree, fig," from a pre-Indo-European Mediterranean language, possibly a Semitic one (cf. Phoenician pagh "half-ripe fig"),
....

thank you again char.
---aka on 2/3/13


In (Isa. 53:6) the word "laid" is not a "fig". Char said,
"Is 53:6
6 All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath (laid [paga]) on him the iniquity of us all."


The word "laid" does not mean "paga" but "pagha" and never means "fig." When God said
"indeed My hand has "laid" the foundation of the earth" (Isa. 48:13) He was not talking about a "fig." Scripture says,
"Because of the hope which is "laid" up of you in heaven" (Col. 1:5) no fig there either. The word "pagha" has many meaning but never for a "fig."
---Mark_V. on 2/3/13


"char, I have a fig tree and the fruit comes way after leaves. the fig does not appear before the leaves. every year we get tons of figs off that tree."
---shira4368 on 2/2/13


My paternal grandmother had a fig tree on her farm. We children loved them... :)
---Leon on 2/2/13


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//If God had wanted us to know what kind of tree eve ate from, He would have told us.// shira

He did...the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. according to Jed, everything in that selection is literal. so, it is not any fruit that we know of since that kind of tree is non-existent now.

i personally believe everything in the bible is literal and metaphorical.

bruise his heel...crush its head...

again, i ask, will there be a literal lady named jezebel that sleeps with a lot of dudes as it says in the revelation of Jesus Christ?.
---aka on 2/2/13


//---Leon on 2/2/13//
Shalom, God Bless brother:)


//---shira4368 on 2/2/13//
Mercy me, thanks shira,
Heres what I see, the first crop [breva-First Fruits] is bitter and the second crop is sweeter (in season.
Israel: Matt 21:19-20
Thanks for the call out,

God bless you,
Shalom
---char on 2/2/13


It is not said. May be it was Ginkgo Biloba with the claim of making people more wise.
---Born on 2/2/13


char, I have a fig tree and the fruit comes way after leaves. the fig does not appear before the leaves. every year we get tons of figs off that tree.
---shira4368 on 2/2/13


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SHALOM Char! :)
---Leon on 2/2/13


The tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden was a quince
---francis on 2/2/13


Jed, Warwick's first line was:
Seq(SEG), to answer your question from another thread!

But thanks, two separate trees in the Bible!
Got it, sorry for stepping on your blog.

But, while we're here Jed!
You ever read that part that says:
Rom_8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

You ever think of the trees in the garden in this way?
But, you're right let's stay on topic.

Thanks Warwick for getting back to me.
Again Jed, Sorry
Peace
---TheSeg on 2/2/13


In faith-I appreciate all of the posts here.
(Paridise [PaRDeS])- interpretation: Rules

P-Parshat: Simple- a text understood from its simple meaning
R-Remez: Hint/Wink- a subtle hint within the text
D-Drash: drawn out- the meaning is drawn out by certain rules
S-Sod:Secret/hidden- the meaning is hidden or a secret

There are good figs and bad figs: an unripe fig is - out of season.
Hebraic perspective is function/action - figs that (function/good) and (dysfunction/bad).
*Knew naked (uncovered)-Covered themselves with fig leaves

For the record- with a fig tree the fruit grows first- then the leavesMatt21:19-20

Learn the parable of the fig tree: Matt24:32, Mk13:28
Lk 13:6-9, 21:29-36,
Continued'
---char on 2/2/13


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Continued'

Is 53:6
6 All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way, and the LORD hath (laid [paga]) on him the iniquity of us all.
"pag" (unripe fig)-root of paga and unripe fig is out of season

Matt 21:19-20
And seeing a fig tree by the way side, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and he saith unto it, Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever. And immediately the fig tree withered away. And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How did the fig tree immediately wither away?

Shalom
---char on 2/2/13


"No, the bible does not say that.

Speculating about such things never helped the witness of a Christian. It is a total waste of time and energy to think about things which are not made clear.

We should spend more time dwelling on the things which God has told us, rather than those things He has NOT told us."
---Rita_H on 2/2/13


Rita_H: Things God says are "made clear" when we choose to pay close attention to what is written in the Bible & spend time meditating (studying) on it rather than leaning on our own understandings & say to ourselves, "No, that can't be..." When we dwell on what God has said, we then make ourselves available to receive further insights into His word.
---Leon on 2/2/13


Shira, I agree.
---Jed on 2/2/13


If God had wanted us to know what kind of tree eve ate from, He would have told us. the point is she participated in sin. satan deceived her just like he still deceives. sin looks good but the end is not good. if we participate in sin, we are just like eve. there is an important point concerning adam and eve.
---shira4368 on 2/2/13


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Warwick, Seq, you guys do realize we are talking about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and not the tree of life, right? They are two separate trees in the Bible. It was the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that Adam and Eve were forbidden to eat.
---Jed on 2/2/13


No, the bible does not say that.

Speculating about such things never helped the witness of a Christian. It is a total waste of time and energy to think about things which are not made clear.

We should spend more time dwelling on the things which God has told us, rather than those things He has NOT told us.
---Rita_H on 2/2/13


Seq, to answer your question from another thread I do believe the tree of life was, and in heaven again will be, a tree. This does not mean that it does not in a spiritual sense refer to the coming Saviour, as well. Jesus death and resurrection made the cross a symbol of the tree of life. Interestingly Deuteronomy 21:23 says anyone hung upon a tree is under God's curse-this is echoed in Galatians 3:13. Jesus sure turned this around.
---Warwick on 2/2/13


Hopefully one last thing!
If the fig leaves they sewed together were from this tree.
Wouldn't that mean they were together at the fig tree!
That would have to be, why did Adam lie to God.

Why didn't Adam tell God, the serpent beguiled us!
And why did God said to Adam, because thou hast hearkened unto the (voice of thy wife!)
Didn't God know they were together at the fig tree?

And yet more! Why does, 1Ti_2:14 say:
Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Didn't Christ or The Holy Spirit know?

Adam told God, the woman gave me of the tree!
Should be clear this was not a fig tree.
I rest my case, love you guys.
Peace
---TheSeg on 2/2/13


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Leon, Gen.3.15 "and I will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed" KJV
Since you asked!
---1st_cliff on 2/2/13


"Leon. I'm not the one who called others blind for not knowing what type of fruit it was, when I myself didn't know because the Bible doesn't say. I also didn't claim that the Bible says something it doesn't."
---Jed on 2/1/13


Suck it up & grow up Jed. Don't be such an immature child in this matter. We're tired of your whining!
---Leon on 2/2/13


Two of God commends!

Gen_1:12, God said:
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind,
and the (tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself,)
after his kind: and
(God saw that it was good.)

Fig trees have fruit whose seed is in itself!
Would God call something which has evil, good!
Clearly not, Jas_3:12!

In Gen_1:29 God make it clear!
And God said, Behold, I have given you-
every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed,
to you it shall be for meat.
Every tree with fruit, yielding seeds!

Clearly this tree's fruit could not bear seeds!
Isn't that why satan needed Adam and Eve?
Just saying, all God plain!
Peace
---TheSeg on 2/1/13


Leon. I'm not the one who called others blind for not knowing what type of fruit it was, when I myself didn't know because the Bible doesn't say. I also didn't claim that the Bible says something it doesn't.
---Jed on 2/1/13


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"Jed, The type of tree was immaterial,it doesn't say but some historians believe it was a pomegranate because of the seeds, symbolism."
---1stcliff on 2/1/13


What do the seeds symbolize Cliff?
---Leon on 2/1/13


"...It MIGHT HAVE BEEN a fruit that we have never known. IT MAY HAVE BEEN one-of-a-kind fruit that was specific only to that tree."
---Jed on 1/27/13


...I think the Bible MAY MENTION the type of fruit it was, but because it's in plain sight many of us tend to overlook it. That's probably because we humans have all kinds of preconceived ideas (blind spots) regarding what "the Bible says".
---Leon on 1/27/13

Jed: I think because you're seeing red you missed what I really said. Note, I included myself in the "blind spots" category. You speculated & so did I! I say it MAY HAVE BEEN figs. That's what I believe. Do you really mind? :)
---Leon on 2/1/13


Leon stated in the "what was the forbidden fruit" blog that the Bible identifies the forbidden fruit as a fig. Yet there is no place in the Bible that actually identifies what the forbidden fruit actually was. Leon even went on to scorn those who admitted they didn't know what the forbidden fruit was as being blind. But does the Bible actually state that the forbidden fruit was a fig as Leon says? Or is Leon immaturely trying to claim his own speculations as the gospel truth?
---Jed on 2/1/13


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