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Christians seem to be consumed with ending human trafficking. Is this a legitimate Christian cause or simply a popular humanitarian bandwagon that Christians have jumped on?

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Slavery in the Bible was hardly the same as human trafficking today. Biblical passages about slavery are irrelevant to human trafficking. We are not talking about slavery, we are not talking about illegal immigration. The question was about human trafficking, which is different than both of those. You will not find one scripture in the Bible that justifies human trafficking.
---Jed on 2/11/13


\\christians SEEM to be CONSUMED with ending human trafficking ? Do you first have proof of this statement?\\
---kathr4453

I'm the one who made the statement, Kathr. Anyone who reads my words can see that. What more proof do you need that I said it?

\\...he looses income from not personally exploiting them\\
---Kathr4453

You probably don't understand that LOOSE is the opposite of TIGHT. So what the heck are you trying to say?


\\I'm sure while being cared for they are also being preached the Gospel.\\
---kathr4453

Do you have proof to substantiate that?


I think I'll try to start a blog about how incoherent your arguments are. It'll probably fill up fast.
---James_L on 2/11/13


Jesus came to free the captives. But on the other hand, the Bible admonishes slaves to serve their masters faithfully. So, the Bible is, at best, ambivalent on the subject of slavery/human bondage.
---StrongAxe on 2/11/13


I see Christians got involved with Abolitionists, that is, freeing the slaves.

Anyone who exploits others for even "just money", as JamesL you want to say that is what most of this is, I call the MOFFIA aka organized crime, thugs, the lowest form of life on the planet.

So, how many personally have you interview JamesL, that say they don't mind one bit?
---kathr4453 on 2/11/13


First of all, where do you get christians SEEM to be CONSUMED with ending human trafficking ? Do you first have proof of this statement? Or is this just something you made up?
---kathr4453 on 2/11/13




What I do see JamesL is many Churches have opened safe houses for those held slaves by human trafficking . But I also see many Churches sponsor safe houses for battered wives.

And you say you have a problem with this? HUMMMMM!

The only reason James would have a problem with this is if he looses income from not personally exploiting them. The Church is crowding his space.

I 'm sure while being cared for they are also being preached the Gospel.

Praise God!
---kathr4453 on 2/11/13


\\..make it out as if human trafficking only entails sneaking people into the country\\
---Jed on 2/10/13

WHAT ?!?

\\slavery combined with sexual exploitation...\\
---Cluny on 2/2/13

That is the WORST side of human trafficking\\
---James_L on 2/3/13

\\there are inhumane instances of human trafficking.\\
---James_L on 2/3/13

\\"human trafficking" has a much broader scope than ONLY sexual slavery\\
---James_L on 2/3/13


So where do you get off with:

\\you're seriously defending human trafficking?\\
---Jed on 2/3/13

\\you are now defending illegal immigration\\
---Jed on 2/3/13


You really should be ashamed of yourself.
---James_L on 2/10/13


If you want to talk only of those who are kidnapped, let's talk about that. Just don't call it the only form of human trafficking.
---James_L on 2/9/13


If you want to talk about human trafficking, let's talk about it, including the worst parts. Don't ask if we should stop human trafficking and then make it out as if human trafficking only entails sneaking people into the country to better their own lives. Not that that's not bad enough in itself, but if you're going to ask if we should try to stop it, you can't ignore the worse parts of human trafficking. And if you think that trying to stop these acts makes you a non-christian, then you sadly mistaken of what makes a person a christian.
---Jed on 2/10/13


Jed,
I'm well aware that we are talking about two different things. But is it my fault that you and countless others have been fed such a narrow definition?

I'm not the only one who understands human trafficking for all it encompasses. Did you go to the ICE website? Or look it up on Wikipedia if you prefer.

Why can't you adopt a realistic definition as the start of a fruitful conversation?

If you want to talk only of those who are kidnapped, let's talk about that. Just don't call it the only form of human trafficking

And I'm not talking about someone sneaking into the country. I'm talking about someone who agrees to some form of slavery in exchange for someone else sneaking them in
---James_L on 2/9/13


No, JamesL. It's just that you are talking about a totally different thing than the rest of us. We can't begin to have a fruitful conversation when we are talking about two completely separate things. You can call them whatever you want, I don't care what you call it. But the rest of us are talking about young kids being kidnapped and exploited. You are talking about willingly sneaking into the country for their own gain. Not at all the same thing. And just for your own sake, keep in mind in the future when you use the term "human trafficking", people are going to assume you are talking about kidnapping and exploitation, not illegal immigration. No one except you would try to equate the two.
---Jed on 2/9/13




Jed,
I guess it was too hard to address the scriptures I quoted, and too hard to look squarely at the web content I quoted too.

That's ok. Your subjective Christianity is well noted.

I guess you can go back to your political activism and trash-talking of liberals, right?
---James_L on 2/9/13


Jed: Once again, I agree with you.
---Trish on 2/9/13


I guess somewhere JamesL BECAME unrighteousness steering his own conscience of knowing right from wrong.. Right JamesL.

Wow, and such an expert on the subject too....

I bet you have so much more knowledge here on this subject than head knowledge...
---kathr4453 on 2/9/13


\\There's really no where for this conversation to go when your talking to someone this ignorant.
---Jed on 2/8/13\\

I wouldn't call him "ignorant", but obviously the same term is being used by different people on here to refer to two different things.

I've already mentioned how people confuse "brain dead" with "persistent vegetative state," or even "coma."

There are other terms, especially theological, I could mention, but that would start another flame war.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/9/13


Well I don't see continuing a conversation with someone who is obviously talking about something completely different then what we are all talking about. Obviously JamesL wants to minimize human trafficking as mere illegal immigration. There's really no where for this conversation to go when your talking to someone this ignorant.
---Jed on 2/8/13


\\JamesL, what you are describing is called illegal immigration\\
---Jed on 2/8/13

You're wrong, Jed. Some illegally immigrate at their own expense, and some are willingly trafficked

Also from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) website:

*** Human trafficking indicators include:
Does the victim possess identification and travel documents?
Did the victim travel to a destination country for a specific job or purpose....?
Does the victim owe money to an employer\employer hold wages?
Did the employer instruct the victim on what to say to law enforcement....?
****

Wait a minute - job ??? employer ??? wages ???

Your view doesn't jibe with the facts
---James_L on 2/8/13


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JamesL, this is like a conversation where people use "brain dead" to mean 'persistent vegetative state."

They are two entirely different things, even if they are confused in the public mind.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/8/13


\\...you do not understand what "human trafficking" means.\\
---Cluny on 2/8/13

No, Cluny. YOU are the one who doesn't understand the broad scope of human trafficking.

From the ICE (US Govt) website:

*** In its worst manifestation, human trafficking is akin to modern-day slavery. Victims pay to be illegally transported into the United States only to find themselves in the thrall of traffickers. They are forced into prostitution, involuntary labor and other forms of servitude to repay debts - often entry in the United States ***


Notice it says "In its WORST manifestation"

NOW do you get it ???
---James_L on 2/8/13


JamesL, what you are describing is called illegal immigration, not at all the same thing as human trafficking. In your original question you asked about human trafficking and then spent this whole thread describing and talking about illegal immigration. Human trafficking is what Trish & Cluny have been describing.
---Jed on 2/8/13


I think someone needs to find out where JamesL lives, or where his father lives and REPORT ILLEGAL ACTIVITY to the authorities. Just the fact that your own father knew...\\
---kathr4453 on 2/8/13

Kathr, that was so stupid I laughed for about ten minutes.

You need to go and read again what I wrote.

My former best friend's dad is not my dad. Well, I guess he could be.....
My dad was gone an awful lot.
---James_L on 2/8/13


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I think someone needs to find out where JamesL lives, or where his father lives and REPORT ILLEGAL ACTIVITY to the authorities. Just the fact that your own father knew and looked the other way makes him AND YOU GUILTY of human trafficing and illegal slavery in the USA!
---kathr4453 on 2/8/13


Is there any direct scriptural support for igniting a "save the slaves" campaign --James_L on 2/3/13


So JamesL are you saying slavery is legal in America, and all we as Christians do is say Stay safe, be well, good luck with that.

Christan you again are wrong too, ..if you see someone in need of food etc and say hay good luck with that, I'm only hear to preach the Gospel, then you have thumbed your nose in the face of Scripture yourself.

Where in that verse does God say walk away, it's not what I called you to.

Christians here in America PAY TAXES and carry the financial load as well for illegals. As a Citizen of the USA, christian or not you have every right to get involved.
---kathr4453 on 2/8/13


\\My best friend's dad was a trafficker. My next door neighbors were trafficked by him.\\

Et reliqua.

Either this is a very bad and tasteless joke, or you do not understand what "human trafficking" means.

It is another word for "slavery", and usually sexual exploitation is added to it.

NOW do you understand?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/8/13


\\you have heard from just how many willing objects\\
---Cluny on 2/7/13

I grew up in the Mexican district of Kansas City. My best friend's dad was a trafficker. My next door neighbors were trafficked by him.

They didn't go around blowing a trumpet that they were here illegally, Sherlock. Heard from....that's awesome.

This man would pay the expense for illegals to willingly come from Mexico. He arranged a job, and he transported them back and forth to work.

30 people in a 15 passenger van. He had 2 vans (his wife drove one)

They willingly came and overpaid for a "ride to work".

That's a big reason why 10-12 of them lived in a 2 bedroom house - right next door to me.
---James_L on 2/8/13


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\\Trish. But I also want people to realize that many trafficked humans ARE willing participants.\\

And you have heard from just how man willing objects of human trafficking, JamesL?

Please be specific.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/7/13


\\slavery is illegal...Therefore, believers...should definitely get involved in ending human trafficking.\\
---Trish on 2/7/13

Who says Christians should get involved in ending humand trafficking? Just because it's illegal? Where's the scripture for that?

Selling narcotics on the street is illegal too. Do you go around busting up drug deals?

Stealing cable tv is illegal too. Do you go door to door demanding proof that people are paying for their cable tv? Stamping out cable tv theft?

In many parts of the world, it is illegal to be a Christian. Do you think Christians should get involved in ending Christianity? After all - it's illegal, right?
---James_L on 2/7/13


In case you haven't heard, slavery is illegal in much of the Western world, especially the United States. Therefore, believers in the countries where slavery is illegal should definitely get involved in ending human trafficking. Nobody should have to experience the trauma of it, especially children. No child should be held captive, prostituted, and probably killed in the end.
---Trish on 2/7/13


\\Many of the victims of human trafficking are NOT willing participants.\\
---Trish

I agree, Trish. But I also want people to realize that many trafficked humans ARE willing participants.

But that is neither here nor there. The issue is whether we should be about trying to rescue them.


\\Of course Christians should help them. How cold can you be?\\
---Trish on 2/7/13

That's a nice emotional response, but what does scripture say?

How cold were the apostles Paul and Peter?? After all, they penned the words that slaves should respect their masters.

I've quoted scripture that plainly says what I'm saying. I guess scripture is only as relevant as your emotions allow?
---James_L on 2/7/13


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James: Many of the victims of human trafficking are NOT willing participants. They are kidnap victims who are held as prisoners at gun point, with threats of death for them and their families if they do not cooperate. Of course Christians should help them. How cold can you be?
---Trish on 2/7/13


James L, the victims of human trafficking are forced into it.

NOBODY is forced to buy a lottery ticket.

However, this does not mean that I think that lotteries or other industrial gambling are good things. I don't.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/7/13


\\Human trafficking is a crime against people\\
---Samuelbb7 on 2/6/13

So are lotteries. They appeal to poor people by dangling riches in front of them. So people will willingly buy the tickets, and the state returns less than half the money in the form of one token winner who is displayed as the model of hope in riches.

It's the same with many cases of human trafficking, where people willingly enter into some sort of servitude in exchange for the hope of a better life.

Do you have some explicit biblical support for the notion that slaves and lottery players are to be rescued by Christians?
---James_L on 2/6/13


Human trafficking is a crime against people. We are to love and care about people. If we do not then we are not Christians.
Mat 25:34-36 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:


For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:


Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.


Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/6/13


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\\what if it were your child?\\
---aka

I would probably be torn between natural and spiritual perspectives. On the one hand, saddened and hoping for rescue. On the other hand, confident that if my child endures to the end he will receive a glorious inheritance that will never fade or wither.

It would't be easy. The emotional path is natural and easy to embrace, while the path of promise is spiritual and difficult to embrace.

We need the building up of each other and strengthening of faith.


\\God did this for us.\\
---aka

God has never said that He has or will rescue us from suffering in this lifetime. In fact, we were predestined for it, and it is how we receive glory (Rom 8:30)
---James_L on 2/6/13


To bro.MarkEaton, With all respect I believe you are right! Your post about how the slaves did not like being slaves, yes! I have often had some inner struggles from Paul writings....some parts really hard to comprehand.Love of jesus!
---ELENA on 2/6/13


\\In other words, you would praise God for sending you a master to would sexually abuse you.\\
---Cluny on 2/5/13


If I had the proper perspective I would. It wouldn't be easy, I'm sure.

Why do you think the writers of scripture used so much ink encouraging their readers to endure hardship? Because It's not easy. The flesh wants relief, but God wants endurance.

You think our present-day human trafficking is on par with early church persecution?

"Let the fire, the gallows, the wild beasts, the breaking of bones, the pulling asunder of members, the bruising of my whole body, and the torments of the devil and hell itself come upon me, so that I may win Christ Jesus." ---Ignatius
---James_L on 2/6/13


Glory to Jesus Christ!
Cluny on 2/5/13

Sure looked that way to me.
Wait a minute Im blind!

FIG!!!!!!!
---TheSeg on 2/6/13


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\\I count sufferings as nothing compared to future glory, then I am able to rejoice when I suffer. Then I would praise God for the one who made me suffer - and count him worthy of respec\\

In other words, you would praise God for sending you a master to would sexually abuse you.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/5/13


\\James, I didn't ask you what you would think of your sufferings.

Please answer the question that was actually asked.\\
---Cluny on 2/5/13

I did answer. If I count sufferings as nothing compared to future glory, then I am able to rejoice when I suffer. Then I would praise God for the one who made me suffer - and count him worthy of respect.

HOWEVER, before you climb on a high horse and accuse me of faux piety, I did say that I would hope to be encouraged to toward this mindset.

It wouldn't come "naturally". My flesh would probably want to cry out for relief instead of rejoicing.

Unfortunately, the "church" has failed to expound this, teaching the sheeple to seek relief instead of grace
---James_L on 2/5/13


if you were sold--or kidnapped--into slavery, and were sexually abused and exploited by your master, would you consider him worthy of full respect?
---Cluny on 2/4/13

Why do you think the slaves that Paul or Peter were writing to were not captured, sold, abused, and raped? I am sure they were. You are looking at history with rose-colored glasses.

Slavery is no different now, than in the past, or in the future. It is about believing you own a person and can do to them anything you desire.

No slave master deserves respect. Yet that is exactly why the words of Paul and Peter were so controversial when they were written.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/5/13


James, I didn't ask you what you would think of y our sufferings.

I asked you what you would think of your master who was sexually abusing you.

Please answer the question that was actually asked.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/5/13


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James...what if it were your child?

God did this for us. Could you?
---aka on 2/5/13


\\James, if you were sold--or kidnapped--into slavery, and were sexually abused and exploited by your master, would you consider him worthy of full respect?\\
---Cluny on 2/4/13

I would hope that I'd be encouraged to...
"consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us." (Rom 8:18)

Suffering is never easy. But throughout the New Testament we are taught that we are predestined and called to suffer, and conformed to the image of Christ through suffering. we are to count is as joy because a great reward awaits those who endure to the end

Those are hard sayings. But through Christ...
---James_L on 2/4/13


\\All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered. (1Tim 6:1)
---James_L on 2/4/13\\

James, if you were sold--or kidnapped--into slavery, and were sexually abused and exploited by your master, would you consider him worthy of full respect?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/4/13


For bro.JamesL. thankyou, further explaining your question.Actually, it
an issue everyone should be concerned christian or whatever organization.We talking human lives! I sure would get involved because I know it is the right to do.
It is injustice, a travesty, so was slavery.My relatives some were born in slavery, they children come out & they traumatized.Yes! Indentuted servitud much on the same level.Evil
Love of jesus!
---ELENA on 2/4/13


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Cluny,

St James wrote:
If a BROTHER or SISTER is without...and one of you says "go in peace, be warm, be filled" and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that?

And I don't discount the reality that there are believers among those who are peddled for a profit. But the apostles exhorted them

Servants, be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and gentle, but also to those who are unreasonable. (1Pet 2:18)

All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered. (1Tim 6:1)
---James_L on 2/4/13


"so, all Jesus told us to do is preach the Gospel?" aka

That's merely the Christian duty when he/she has received grace through faith in Christ from God. Putting good works before preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ is no better than you being a buddhist, hindu or any of the other religions of the world. Can't you see they are all clambering to be on top of the pile in "good works"?

That's because, non of those work-mongers care about the Truth. Hence they "work very hard" to earn themselves "points" into God's kingdom. And that's not how one gets into His kingdom. Only the Christian knows better. Do you?
---christan on 2/4/13


\\Christians are trying to rescue human trafficking victims, digging water wells, building houses in the urban core, etc - trying to rescue the world from hardship instead of offering them hope to endure the hardship.\\

St. James wrote about doing nothing but offering hope to people to endure hardship.

In any case, many victims of human trafficking and who have no water ARE Christians. Did you know that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/4/13


\\My Biblical defense for working to end human trafficking is Christ's command to love your neighbor as yourself.\\
---Trish on 2/4/13

And we should be able to understand what a neighbor is when He also said

By this they (the world) will kow that you are My disciples, if you love ONE ANOTHER (John 13:35)

This is my commandment, that you love ONE ANOTHER, just as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you (John 15:12-14)

If the world hates you, know that is has hated Me before it hated you (John 15:18


It should be abundantly clear that the world is not part of ONE ANOTHER
---James_L on 2/4/13


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Jesus told us to do other things in addition to preaching the gospel.
---Jed on 2/4/13


My Biblical defense for working to end human trafficking is Christ's command to love your neighbor as yourself.

Jed: I'm glad to see we agree on something.
---Trish on 2/4/13


\\so, all Jesus told us to do is preach the Gospel?\\
---aka on 2/3/13

It depends. To the world, preach the gospel.

To believers, humble, faithful service - physical, spiritual and financial.

Unfortunately, Christians are trying to rescue human trafficking victims, digging water wells, building houses in the urban core, etc - trying to rescue the world from hardship instead of offering them hope to endure the hardship.

I'm not saying that it's wrong to be concerned, or that we should never help unbelievers.

But believers have been called to suffer, following Christ's example (1Pet 2:21). Yet we try to rescue everybody from suffering and call it Christ.
---James_L on 2/4/13


//If you think there's something more to than just preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, don't even dare call yourself a Christian. For that's not what Christ instructed His disciples to do before He ascended to the Father.//

so, all Jesus told us to do is preach the Gospel?
---aka on 2/3/13


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eerrrrr aka, I think James 1:22,23 refers to someone like you if you read carefully.

Here's why: Jesus commanded - "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matthew 28:19,20

You see anywhere Christ commanded otherwise to what you're suggesting? For you, you hear but don't believe in Christ's command in His great commission. That's what James 1:22,23 implies!
---christan on 2/4/13


Jed,
I was merely stating that "human trafficking" has a much broader scope than only sexual slavery, including indentured servitude.

Unfortunately, you've allowed Hollywood to tell you what constitutes human trafficking, and you haven't investigated all the ins and outs for yourself. That's your fault. Not mine.

But my original question is not about the trafficking itself. Rather, is their rescue a Christian cause or a worldly cause?

Is there any direct scriptural support for igniting a "save the slaves" campaign ??

Or were slaves in biblical times encouraged to have faith through their difficulties?
---James_L on 2/3/13


So James L, you are now defending illegal immigration by means of human trafficking?
---Jed on 2/3/13


//If your understanding is correct, then it would have made no sense for Paul to penned, -- Romans 10:17 // ---Christan

a talking head staring at yourself in a mirror is all you are if that is how you see the whole picture.

Jas 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
Jas 1:23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror.
---aka on 2/3/13


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"And thus saith the Lord thy God, My people ought to know something besides the gospel." pat

I do hope you have Scripture to back up what you have just declared as "thus saith the Lord my God". If you don't, you are a in deep trouble with the Lord for bearing false witness as to something He never said in His Word and you claiming it as He said it.

If you think there's something more to than just preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, don't even dare call yourself a Christian. For that's not what Christ instructed His disciples to do before He ascended to the Father.

Truth be told, such attitude proves you are nothing more than just a works monger in sheep clothing.
---christan on 2/3/13


human trafficking is one of the worst things I know. it exploits women and children and men too. I am not on a one woman campaigne but will do whatever I need to do that will help. this is one sin that would be hard to find since they use the internet and keep under cover.
---shira4368 on 2/3/13


Elena,

I am well aware that there are inhumane instances of human trafficking.

Ain't no Mexican gonna work for $3.00 and hour? You've never been to Kansas City where I live.

I know 2 illegals who work for a church deacon doing remodel construction.

They make $250 per week, and work 70-80 hours to get that. If you figure that anything over 40 hours should be time and a half, they are both making between $2.50 -$3.00 per hour.

It does happen, and these guys are happy to have the work.
---James_L on 2/3/13


James L, you're seriously defending human trafficking? That is indescribably sick!
---Jed on 2/3/13


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To bro.JamesL. if I may let me bring you up to date, have been to Mexico 2 times, have nothing against any race but, believe me, NOW. 2013 the mexicans are running much of the illegal (some who maybe had good intentions yes? Often SOME are forced too. Work for the cartels, but everyday I read the spanish newspapers at 5 og them.The mexicans are running illegal drugs in 5 continents! There ain't NO mexican going to work for $3.00 no where any more. Truth.
there are bad people in all races but just wanted to let you know truth as of today.love of jesus!
---ELENA on 2/3/13


\\slavery combined with sexual exploitation and prostitution.\\
---Cluny on 2/2/13

That is the worst side of human trafficking. The media and activists only show that aspect. But consider:

A woman might want to get out of Russia or the Philippines e.g., and willingly becomes a bride-for-purchase. She will be trafficked for a profit, but couldn't be happier.

A man wants to get his family out of Mexico but can't afford to. So he willingly comes to America illegally at someone else's expense, then be trafficked for a profit. He'll work for $3.00 per hour til he can save enough to be bring his family. How long will it take? But he is willing.

The bible nowhere condemns indentured servitude
---James_L on 2/3/13


RitaH, is exactly correct. And thus saith the Lord thy God, My people ought to know something besides the gospel". We have two obediences, 1. the word of God and 2. God directly. We are to obey God first, directly[ face to face]. There were a lot about Him that was never recorded. No one knows God better than a prophet....The world is getting worse, the hypocrites needs to go, and God's people needs to get real, and Amen.
---pat on 2/3/13


"Family, They should be oppose terrible degradation., wanted go visit Mexico, go mission helps orphan children. Years ago dangerous women mainly Cuban mostly, kidnap & sell to the cartels who return shake down families, sell women and young girls slavery to another country. Never be seen or killed. reading mexican newspaper results true.Many unsuspecting women go online want get out Cuba falling - trap.Saw youtube some talk about children,women here, have become victims, too! This is worldwide. Sadly, my brothers & sisters. Regardless Christian or Non religious groups or the authorities somebody need get involved. Love of Jesus!"
---ELENA on 2/2/13,/I>


YEEESSS, SAY IT AGAIN ELENA!!! :)
---Leon on 2/3/13


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"God calls Christians to many things besides preaching the gospel. We can witness for Christ through so many activities and organisations without actually preaching." RitaH

If your understanding is correct, then it would have made no sense for Paul to penned, "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Romans 10:17

The priority of the Christian is to obey Christ, and that's to witness and testify the Word of God to his/her fellow man. The "good works" that he/she performs is merely, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."
---christan on 2/3/13


Bro.Christian, on youtube testimonies people vicious- cannibals who fed on HUMANS! murderers, prostitutes, witchdoctors from Haiti,gangbangers, many came to know Jesus through ministries were NOT in a pulpit. 1 brother his family, his grandmother murder haitians she try kill him & his father -witchcraft, he got healed NOW preaching the gospel. It weird how he came to know christ.was not.in the church, he ran away he was crown voodoo prince & he got very ill & long story short he end up homeless, never did he go to a church! Just like the cannibal he convert to jesus, too. He was a flesh eater but, the christian showed him something he never had- compassion, forgiveness, he almost became dinner! God stop by..
---ELENA on 2/3/13


God calls Christians to many things besides preaching the gospel. We can witness for Christ through so many activities and organisations without actually preaching.

A century or more ago most charities, orphanages, hospitals etc. were started by Christians. These people showed the love of God through their work without ever standing in a pulpit or having people seated listening to them.

They showed God in action through what they were doing and many people will have been saved that way rather than through hearing sermons.
---Rita_H on 2/3/13


Human trafficking is, as I understand it, slavery combined with sexual exploitation and prostitution.

Christian morality is against both.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/2/13


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what is a legitimate christian cause?

you do what you are called to do.
---aka on 2/2/13


Jed, may I just say AMEN!!! Christ has taught us to love our neighbor not enslave them and abuse them. It is a travesty and we should all want it to stop!
---trey on 2/2/13


You may have made a good point without knowing it. Let Jesus lead you into everlasting glorious state of being.
---pat on 2/2/13


Family, They should be oppose terrible degradation., wanted go visit Mexico, go mission helps orphan children. Years ago dangerous women mainly Cuban mostly, kidnap & sell to the cartels who return shake down families, sell women and young girls slavery to another country. Never be seen or killed. reading mexican newspaper results true.Many unsuspecting women go online want get out Cuba falling - trap.Saw youtube some talk about children,women here, have become victims, too! This is worldwide. Sadly, my brothers & sisters. Regardless Christian or Non religious groups or the authorities somebody need get involved. Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 2/2/13


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The Christian main duty has been given by Christ already and that's to preach the Gospel, period.

I do not make light of human trafficking at all, but to get involve with these activists with regards to this matter is a no, no for a Christian. And that's because, majority of them have no clue of who God even is, let alone believe in God.

More importantly, do you think you can even get to preach the Gospel before these heathens? You can try but I'm sure in no time, they'll kick you out of the group. And that's because it's not in their agenda to preach the Gospel whatsoever.
---christan on 2/2/13


Ending human trafficking is certainly a noble cause no matter who is leading the efforts. Why would anyone not want to end human trafficking? It's one of the most disgusting and inhumane practices on the planet today. Everyone should be against it. Sadly, many governments are involved and have a hand in it because they get a piece of the money, as demonstrated in the movie "Taken".
---Jed on 2/2/13


Decent people from all walks of life are against human trafficking. I don't feel that it is any kind of bandwagon. Being against it is how all decent human being should feel. It is not the prerogative of Christians.

People who are for it and involved in it are the scum of the earth.
---Rita_H on 2/2/13


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