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My girls go to private school then are both adopted. I have been paying $ 1,200 a month. I find it hard to tithe as much as I should. I am not willing to pull them out of there school at this time. Is that the same as a tithe. Or am I fooling myself

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Scott,
I have doing just that I found it hard to give at the churchs. All the churches I attend have an place on envelope for missions. I give most of my tithe there not all. I am starting to give more to the local church. I going to a new church and starting slowly as the Lord guides. Thanks for your advise. I do need to give more to the local body.
---Mike on 2/27/13


I have looked at all of your statements - you tithe lovingly, you give missionally, you're giving lovingly to your children. However, do you have a passion for your local body of believers, church. If not, may I suggest you find another group of believers or a new service opportunties that you can be passionate about. Find a church that you know your tithe is being more fulfilled or impowered. Pray about it.
---Scott1 on 2/27/13


Follower,
Why are you so critical of others? The bible states we all fall short there is not one of us that is perfect. Do you think your comments draw people closer to Christ or futher away. I understant wanting to make your point however you can't seem to do it in a way the draws one to the Lord
---Mike on 2/24/13


So when Jesus saw the widow giving the mite she gave everything she had I wonder how many of us are doing that. My point is this we all fall short

no you do not make a point you fall short and do not choose to give as the widow did your analogy has fallen short, you are using religion as a weapon and misusing one verse to support your decision to go against the high priest Lord Jesus and tithe in faith.

As I already pointed out, faith in the Lord Jesus is much harder than force by the IRS. Try telling the IRS you won't be paying your taxes to send your children to private school.

choosing to label me as having legalistic views demonstrates your lack of spiritual understanding seeing I didn't write Holy Scripture.
---Follower_of_Christ on 2/24/13


I do tithe I said I am having a hard time doing it. Funny how you have come to the conclusion I'm not.

FUNNIER you jumped to conclusion I said you did not tithe at all

****I previously wrote: Mike knows he has this money except its being used for excessive unneeded things...

I did not write you do not tithe (why would you outright lie about what I wrote unless you cannot read?), how pointless asking for spiritual help when you're only determined to defend you non-spiritual position, because then your faith, and your question, become a hollow exercise for you to only find people to agree with you, then you can stop defending your "partial tithing" concept with people who coddle you
---Follower_of_Christ on 2/24/13




Follower of Christ
I don't think it's excessive to want a Christian education for my girls. I do tithe I said I am having a hard time doing it. Funny how you have come to the conclusion I'm not. I was asking a question it's not a matter of tithing I do. Sometime's I don't tithe as much as I should. I am free in Christ you seem to be very legalistic in your views. So when Jesus saw the widow giving the mite she gave everything she had I wonder how many of us are doing that. My point is this we all fall short.
---Mike on 2/23/13


Obviously what Mike is suggesting is he has some understanding of Gods tithe, yet he wants to reason tithing away. Mike knows he has this money except its being used for excessive unneeded things, like a private education for his children.. And now because he wants to follow his own desires (rejecting the Lord as high priest) he's determined Gods tithe is now hard because his wants are greater. It would not matter if it were a private eduction, or even college for older children Mike is fooling himself to believe Gods tithe is equivalent to his childrens eduction. Tithe is simply 10% and done in spiritual faith, yet government takes 15-45% of wages try to wiggle out of that one if IRS comings knocking. Faith is much harder than force.
---Follower_of_Christ on 2/23/13


What God ordained is that the TITHE went to the PRIESTS in Israel.

Rejecting Lord Christ Jesus as high priest whose glorious appearing coming to earth to return and destroy kingdoms of men establishing Gods Kingdom on earth where he will rule from Jerusalem as Lord of Lord and King of Kings?

The essential difference between professing Christians without spiritual understanding and those following the high priest Lord Jesus is understanding the Lord is our high priest today. faith we demonstrate is for things unseen (Lord and his work). You see a man in a pulpit believing tithe is for him, with spiritual understanding you know tithe is given to the physical representative of man to our high priest the Lord Jesus.
---Follower_of_Christ on 2/23/13


\\It is God who promotes tithes so if you do not tithe to your church you openly admit God is not in your church.\\
---Follower_of_Falsehood on 2/21/13


What God ordained is that the TITHE went to the PRIESTS in Israel.

To the Sons of Levi, behold, I have given all the tithe in Israel for an inheritance, in return for their service which they perform, the service of the Tent of Meeting. (Numbers 18:21)

Is that where you send your tithe? If not, then you've proven that you don't honor the tithe either

Hypocrite !!
---James_L on 2/22/13


\\It is God who promotes tithes so if you do not tithe to your church you openly admit God is not in your church.\\

Says you...sounds more like you are the one promoting the tithe.

How does whether I give a tithe or not determine whether God is in the church or not? That's bazzar.

I assume you are promoting your church as the only true church because.....because you tithe?
---Rod4Him on 2/22/13





As I have pointed out before, it is usually the ones who recieve the "tithes" that promote it the most.


It is God who promotes tithes so if you do not tithe to your church you openly admit God is not in your church.

The spiritual lesson of the tithe is understanding it is done in faith to God for the purpose of the work of the Lord, however if you believe the tithe is given to the man in the pulpit preaching Gods Word then it demonstrates you have no faith it is Gods church you believe it is the man in the pulpit's church.

Yet interesting side note is most will not give any tithe and take everything in cash value they can from the church they attend - the mark of those who are spiritually dead
---Follower_of_Christ on 2/21/13


//... living on contributions only,//

As I have pointed out before, it is usually the ones who recieve the "tithes" that promote it the most.

It's amazing that many of these people don't show gratitude for hard working people giving to them, but it appears that it is expected. I don't know how these people get the audacity to take people's money claiming to be "God's" chosen to recieve these monies.

Note, millions of people don't give a "tithe" and they don't go hungry. Giving doesn't prove anything. A person needs to give as God lays on their heart and not by some pressure of the clergy.

Those who are righteous don't need to brag about it.
---Rod4Him on 2/21/13


Furthermore, I live in a city of many missionaries, and I am not impressed. Two couples I know are living extremely well in one of the most the luxurious apartments in the city living off people's giving. Others have lots of free time exploring the sites while being "missionaries." Granted, others I can support and are they are extremely great people, but they are few and far between, and they never ask for money.

Giving such be of the heart as God directs...this should be the end of the discussion. If He doesn't direct, don't worry about it.
---Rod4Him on 2/21/13


"No", you can't count the girls schooling expense as part of your tithe, but there is one thing I've learned is you can't out give God. My wife and I were missionary's for over 30 years - living on contributions only, and while things got pretty tight, (financially), and we always tithed on our gross income. We "never missed a meal" and even though retired, we still tithe on our gross income.
---wivv on 2/20/13


tithing is not a legal obligation, it is a privilege.
1: For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. 1 Cor 3:9

---francis on 2/17/13


//which I assume means sending my kids to Sunday school, rather than me using that money for my kids benefit as a parent I see best for them.//Rod4him

I do not disagree about you caring for your kids and knowing what is best and yes your family is first. However, what about the missionary, pastor, in Africa or Asia, or the kid down the street who does not have a great family home. That is why we (Christians) give money to the Church for his Kingdom not just our kingdom.
---Scott1 on 2/15/13


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Mike, I agree with all your points.
---Rod4Him on 2/15/13


Rod4Him I have to agree doing the Lords work starts in the home. I don't know if I am out of line when it comes to tithing. But there is a lot we can do out side the church. Mission are one of many. Where we see a need to give to the poor we should do it. I give where God guides me to give. And by no means do I believe it is a legal obligation.
---Mike on 2/14/13


I tithe out of love for the Lord. And I trust Him with all I have. And that does not mean money it means my life. And my life should be a living sacrifice. You could give all 10% or more and not love for your neighbor. What would it profit you?
---Mike on 2/14/13


//Which is more important to you, your family or the Lord's work????//

Raising my family in the nurture and admonition of The Lord is The Lord's work. It is interesting how some people/Christians think the Lord's work is focusing on everybody else/church but not their own famly. Amazing???
---Rod4Him on 2/14/13


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Furthermore, how does it make sense to give money to someone else, doing "the Lord's work," which I assume means sending my kids to Sunday school, rather than me using that money for my kids benefit as a parent I see best for them. Church can do better than the parent??? I think not.
---Rod4Him on 2/14/13


Francis, **Those who work full time in the gospel**is a pretty broad brush!
That would include Catholic and Anglican priests,Nuns and Monks,
Mormon missionaries, Jehovah's Witnesses pioneers,
any and all who claim to preach the gospel!
or is it just those you think preach true gospel!
Incidently gospel means "good news"
Levites were not known as "gospel preachers"
---1st_cliff on 2/14/13


---1st_cliff on 2/13/13

ok, then what is a tithe?
---Scott1 on 2/14/13


The Bible says if a person doesn't care for their own family they are worst than an infidel. What a horrible thing to say especially when the paid staff is on the receiving end and probably sending their own kids to a private school.
---Rod4Him on 2/12/13

Which is more important to you, your family or the Lord's work????
---KarenD on 2/13/13


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If you believe today that you need to tithe then who has God appointed to accept it?
---1st_cliff on 2/13/13
Corinthians 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Numbers 18:21 And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, [even] the service of the tabernacle of the congregation.


God has ordained the tithe to those who work fulltime in the Gospel
---francis on 2/13/13


Scott, What you describe is the giving of alms, not tithing! It's been said that the Lord loves a cheerful giver. How you donate and to whom is your private affair!
---1st_cliff on 2/13/13


---1st_cliff on 2/13/13

The Levities were priest as priest they were just like everybody else in Israel except born into the family of Levi, think caste system. They had families, they sinned, they had issues that everybody else has. There job was performing sacrifices, tearing down the taberacle, leadership, etc. As such they did not have income. Everybody else was in a profit making business, farming, sheparding, trade, etc. Today I tithe from my income (not legalisticly) so that my church staff does not have to work for profit but can spend time in prayer, bible study, create church resources, have a family, deal with personal issues, to be a leader of the church, etc.
---Scott1 on 2/13/13


//Today it's no more than a church "cash cow"!//1stCliff

Then I would find a new church, check out NewSpring in South Carolina.
---Scott1 on 2/13/13


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I've asked this question before but never got an answer,
If you believe today that you need to tithe then who has God appointed to accept it?
In the past ,under the law , Levites were the ones that were sanctioned to recieve the tithe since they had no land!
Today it's no more than a church "cash cow"!
---1st_cliff on 2/13/13


More important is if you have given yourself (2 Corinthians 8:5) and your children to the Lord. If you value your church, you might give more in the summer while the girls are out of school and then is when other members might be away and not giving. Then can be when also it is easier without fuel bills to pay. And have a simple vacation, maybe, with more family to it, than fancy (c:

Our main education is to learn how to submit to our Father in His peace (Matthew 11:28-30, Colossians 3:15), learn how to love all people (Matthew 5:46, 2 Corinthians 12:15).
---willie_c: on 2/12/13


private education is a luxury, just like having a luxury car, or a country club membership etc. Private education would be an additional expense certainly not needed as public education is sufficient. Most people barely afford their mortgages today for average mortgage of $800-$1200/month yet they still tithe. Tithing is between you and God and if truly converted you would understand the spiritual lesson of tithing (which is paid first before any other expenses are paid). In addition its purpose is supporting work of God and by faithfully tithing to God and his work (verses paying for a luxury educational expense first) you are blessed by God otherwise you just bless the school with your money which is not Gods work.
---Follower_of_Christ on 2/12/13


\\I guess you consider the girls' education more important than the work of the Lord.\\

The Bible says if a person doesn't care for their own family they are worst than an infidel. What a horrible thing to say especially when the paid staff is on the receiving end and probably sending their own kids to a private school.
---Rod4Him on 2/12/13


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Mike, the private school is not a tithe. However, It does sound like you want to give money to your local church. I can tell you from experience that it is well worth whatever you sacrifice to be able to be generous to your local body of believers. With that said 1st Cliff is right that it is not a requirement don't look at the % but look at the sacrifice, but so is Francis because it breaks the power of greed and selfishness and you grow in faith, "cannot serve both God and money" With that said can you sacrifice eating out, TV service, sell the car, etc to allow you to be generous with that money to the local church. For where your money is your heart (passion) will be also.
---Scott1 on 2/12/13


Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground, neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.

What you have is not a financial problem, what you have is a spiritual problem

You do not find it hard to tithe, you find it hard to trust God

It means you do not yet trust God to do what He say to do for you if you return to him the tithe and offering due to him
---francis on 2/12/13


No, that's not a tithe.
---Jed on 2/11/13


The fact that they are adopted really doesn't matter. I shouldn't have put that in there my mistake. As far as giving to the work of the Lord my girls are the work of the Lord. F.Y.I. I do tithe.....
---Mike on 2/11/13


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Mike, You're fooling your self if you believe that Christians are commanded to tythe!
---1st_cliff on 2/11/13


Mike...What does your daughters being adopted have to do with tithes? Hopefully, it is a Christian school. I guess you consider the girls' education more important than the work of the Lord.
---KarenD on 2/11/13


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