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Can a person who is not born again, and not spirit filled, and in a "religion" and not a relationship with Jesus, can demons be casted out of that person? She is asking me and I don't know the answer to my friend's question.

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---Elena9555 on 4/27/14


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See if I can sleep!
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 4/23/14


We are not only to go around preaching, we are to "do".
---Steveng on 4/17/13


the mission of the local church is to bring the sinners in and preach salvation. it is a place of learning for the believer. we are to share each other's burdens and praise God. sing praises, testify and just love each other. I do believe in miracles but did you know satan can perform miracles too. while we pray for each other, miracles aren't the mission of the local church.
---shira4368 on 4/15/13


Steveng, you say,
"Am I confused about the word of God when I quoted "The church is not only to preach, but to work miracles as proof to the existance of God."?
Yes, you are confused. Second, you can never proof to anyone that it was God who did the miracle. Do an online search for that. You can believe it yourself, and feel a greater faith, but you can never authenticate the miracle was of God to anyone else. Unless a voice from heaven is heard by the others, that says, "I did that."
The subject of casting out demons, is not something believers are called to do. But if you want to do it, go for it.
We are called to preach the gospel Truth, God does with His word as He sees pleased to do.
---Mark_V. on 4/15/13




Am I confused about the word of God when I quoted "The church is not only to preach, but to work miracles as proof to the existance of God."?

To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God...
Read slowly verses 1 thru 8 of Acts Chapter 1.

Do an online KJV bible search for the words "proof",

It is not what is spoken, but what is seen by the miracles of God working through his chosen ones.

2 Corinthians 13:5
Galatians 6:4
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Hebrews 3:9


When God performs miracles through you then you will have your proof and your faith will grow.
---Steveng on 4/14/13


Anon, I said,
"Before anyone attempts to cast out demons, they better make sure they are saved to being with, if he is not, that demon will take him"
The reason I said it is because many claim to be saved, and are not. Maybe they have believed a wrong gospel. The same can happen to them that happen to the Jewish exorcists who attempted to cast out evil spirits in the name of Jesus Christ in (Acts 19:13-16) The demons overpowered the exorcist and prevailed against them. It's a warning, even if they attempt to cast out evil spirits in the name of the Lord.
---Mark_V. on 4/8/13


Steveng, your confused about the word of God. You said,
"The church is not only to preach, but to work miracles as proof to the existance of God." You can never proof the existence of God to any unbeliever when someone is healed. Will God speak out and say, "I did it"?
There is no way to proof God exist to them. They have no spiritual understanding.
You don't have to proof to any believer about God, he should already believe that it is God who does the healings or any miracle. The miracles done in Scripture were done by God's power, we know that because the Word of God tells us so.
Concerning the two witnesses mentioned in Rev. 11:1-11) is the same message in Zechariah vision, revealed in Zech. 4:1-14).
---Mark_V. on 4/7/13


Mark_V.: "anon, the church today is not called to go out casting demons."

The church is not only to preach, but to work miracles as proof to the existance of God. The began at the time of Jesus and will end at the time Jesus returns. We are told to do greater miracles than Jesus. If you do not believe this then you will not believe the two last prophets as mentioned in Revelation.
---Steveng on 4/6/13


anon, the church today is not called to go out casting demons. They are called to preach the gospel, make disciples, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Before anyone attempts to cast out demons, they better make sure they are saved to being with, if he is not, that demon will take him over. And even if they are saved, that does not guarantee they will succeed. The work of casting out demons belongs to God alone.
Many here from the Pentacostal denomination who advice others to do that, do not mind since they are not doing the casting. The demons and the devil have more power then any human being. The reason believers are warned about satan roaming around, otherwise we would not need any warning.
---Mark_V. on 4/4/13




Yes, a demon can be "casted" out of a non believer. Like all miracles, casting out demons brings glory to God and, therefore, bringing another person to him. How many miracles did God perform through Jesus, the apostles and all the other godly people throughout the bible to non-believers that to bring glory to God and to prove his existance?
---Steveng on 3/30/13


Anon: Did you personally make the analysis 'a person who is not born again,'

How well have you checked that?

Have you checked with other Christians?

The terms you used in your question are often the type I see used just to mean 'I don't like this person's beliefs'

We must be careful

Remember, Jesus told us when to treat a Christians who does not act that way 'treat them as tax collectors and sinners' (Matt 18:17), but there is a long process.

If you have not gone through that, just call that person a Christian - that seems to be what Jesus is suggesting
---Peter on 3/9/13


Adetinji, your answer and Jed's were right on. Your explanation to that passage is correct. I really don't understand why Cluny would even try to oppose the answer. That is what it means. It's written in a certain way, that the opposite is also an answer. If they are for us, there has to be those against us. And as you said also, there is only two side, the children of God and the children of satan. That division was caused by God when He put the curse in (Gen. 3:15) and all through history we have seen both sides and what they do to each other.
---Mark_V. on 3/9/13


Cluny: That verse you quoted Luke 9:50 do not clearly explain your view or position about 2 spiritual camps only. (1)How many spiritual camps exist in your own view? (2)Which group or persons belong to the spiritual camps that you know? Please do not be annoyed if we do not understand you, if you can make your point clearer, we may understand you better.
---Adetunji on 3/7/13


anon, in my own experience it is very important for every believer to understand that going against demons and satan can instead bring demons into a persons life. We are never commanded to go out and fight demons.
I witnessed an exorcism sponsored by Derek Prince crusade at the Pentacostal Church I use to attend. Parents took about twenty children who they suspected were demon possessed. Buy the time they got done with those children, I believe they were all traumaticed for life, with all the helling and praying out loud. I couldn't believe what was going on. Even I was disturb so much I left.
---Mark_V. on 3/7/13


Whatever your friend's religion is, may have alot to do with any so called demon possession.

If there is no accompanying change in what that person holds to, then any cast out demons may return.

Born again, spirit filled Christians that have a firm and accurate faith and relationship with Jesus can deal with any personal demonic attacks they may have as well as giving requested help to others with demon activities.
---jan4378 on 3/6/13


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Sis Shira, athiest first needs to be made spiritually alive by the Lord, so that he can get spiritual counseling and understand that it comes from God. Right now he doesn't believe in God and will remain there no matter how many Bibles he reads. Now that is the Truth. He doesn't need for us to convince him, that would only work temporary. He needs God to change his heart, that work is eternal.
---Mark_V. on 3/6/13


Adetunji and Jed, don't you just HATE it when I quote from the Holy Gospels to show you where you're wrong?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/13


Cluny: //for he that is not against us// (1)Someone who is not against Jesus & His followers(in doctrines & practices) is definitely in Jesus camp.(2)Someone who is always at peace with Jesus/followers(having different doctrines & practices) is not in Jesus camp yet but can be converted in the future.
---Adetunji on 3/5/13


\\Please tell that person that spiritually, there are 2 camps only. Not-with-Jesus is with-Satan,\\

That's not what Jesus Himself said.

Luke 9:50
And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
---Cluny on 3/5/13


Cluny, that scripture you posted does not contradict that statement, it supports it. Saying "if they're not against us, they are for us" is the equivalent to "if they are not for us, they are against us". It works vice-versa. They both mean the same thing: You're either for us or against us, there is no neutral, there is no middle ground. They're either on our side or they aren't. That's what Jesus was saying.
---Jed on 3/5/13


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\\Please tell that person that spiritually, there are 2 camps only. Not-with-Jesus is with-Satan,\\

That's not what Jesus Himself said.

Luke 9:50
And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/13


steveng, you are correct but atheist has been on here denying Christ with every breath. I will defend my faith and I will defend Christ and I will also defend the one true God. I did tell him I was praying for his salvation but as usual, he turned a deaf ear so I just dusted my feet. when you tell someone over and over and he flaunts his atheist beliefs, I will speak up.
---shira4368 on 3/4/13


anon: Please tell that person that spiritually, there are 2 camps only. Not-with-Jesus is with-Satan, but people can/do change camp by their decisions.
---Adetunji on 3/5/13


shira4368: "theist, you need spiritual counseling. why don't you get a life and get off this Christian based site. "

Not a good christian reply. That's the same as saying don't read the bible, it will never help you. Some day, and I hope not to far into the future, that someone will post something that theist will have a change of heart.
---Steveng on 3/4/13


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theist, you need spiritual counseling. why don't you get a life and get off this Christian based site. you know about God but you don't believe. I would be very careful not to cross the line. God could just kill you.
---shira4368 on 3/4/13


Why is this blog called "Demon Oppressed Christian," when the person involved is identified as NOT being a Christian?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/4/13


"But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him." (1 Corinthians 6:17) This is how to be "in a relationship with" Jesus, to be "one spirit with Him" in His love (Romans 5:5).

If someone is not "one spirit with" Jesus, yes a demon can be cast out of him or her, but don't count on it staying out > Matthew 12:43-45.

There is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience," Paul says in Ephesians 2:2. This evil spirit of Satan has emotions and drives witch are dominating and degrade people so they can suffer in confusion, depression, hate, unforgiveness . . . .

Only Jesus can give "rest for your souls." (Matthew 11:28-30)
---willie_c: on 3/3/13


First off, there is no such word as "casted." The verb "cast" does not inflect to show the past or past participle.

One of the most subtle tricks of demons is to make some Christians think they are places where they are not.

Believe me, I've seen Christians (mostly of the charismatic variety) who find demons behind every coffee pot and blame them for things that are simply human nastiness.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/3/13


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I believe that most who think they are oppressed by demons need psychiatric counseling!
---1st_cliff on 3/3/13


They can't be cast out because they don't exist. Tell your friend to get some professional counseling.
---atheist on 3/3/13


anon,
can you clarify what you mean by:

in a "religion"
and
not in a relationship with Jesus
???

I know those are cute catch phrases - but neither biblical, and many people understand them differently
---James_L on 3/3/13


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