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I'm a Christian and married a Catholic.. I didn't think of the spiritual problems this would bring me but now that we have a baby its hit me hard. I don't want to change my views and want to be saved when the time comes. Do I have a chance?

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I've been Orthodox for over 40 years. I think I know something about the process of iconography, and the qualifications of an iconographer. Maybe even more than you.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/13/13

I know Catholics who been Catholics for 50 years and still don't know much about their faith.

Sorry, but you have said things on this site that makes me wonder.
---Nikki on 3/13/13


Ask most Adventists about the Sabbath and they will quote the Roman Catholic church catechism that states the RCC had authority to change the Sabbath to Sunday,
---e.lee7537 on 3/12/13

We also quote the BIBLE:
Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast ( ROME) shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms ( RELIGIOUS IN NATURE),
and shall think to change times and laws:
---francis on 3/13/13


\\Cluny, do you realize how much prayers and fasting that goes into painting a icon? Plus, only certain persons can paint icons?\\

I've been Orthodox for over 40 years. I think I know something about the process of iconography, and the qualifications of an iconographer. Maybe even more than you.

My point, which you are missing, is that icons are not graven images because "graven" means CARVED.


**This cannot be the intelligence level of the people I am talking to on this site.
---Jed on 3/12/13**

Jed, you overestimate yourself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/13/13


John 20:1
The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

20:1 is not even about Gods Holy Sabbath Day, in fact, the passage does not even indirectly mention it--Follower_of_Christ on 3/12/13

The Lord Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath Day, nothing in Holy Scripture states the Lord Jesus is Lord of Sunday, or the "first day of week".---Follower_of_Christ on 3/12/13

Did you forget your topic? You said that the scripture didn't states Jesus rose on Sunday.
John 20:1 proves He did rise on Sunday which is the first day of the week.

Now who is the liar????
I accept your apology ahead of time.
---nikki on 3/13/13


Nikki //My Bible isn't the Catechism and I think you know that, but just being rude.

Nor does any catechism outside that found in the Adventist church will support the observance of the Sabbath.

Ask most Adventists about the Sabbath and they will quote the Roman Catholic church catechism that states the RCC had authority to change the Sabbath to Sunday, but what they deliberately miss is that further reading would inform the reader that the Roman Church claimed that was done back during the days of the Apostles, Peter being the first pope.

But even the Bible tells us those that adhere to the old Sinaitic covenant are the slave children of Hagar, not of the promise given to Abraham by faith. Galatians 4:24f
---e.lee7537 on 3/12/13




John 20:1 It states the 1st day of the week. (Sunday)... the stone removed from the tomb.

John 20:1
The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Let's break this down for you:

John 20:1 is not even about Gods Holy Sabbath Day, in fact, the passage does not even indirectly mention it

I'll help you out here, John 20:1 states Mary Magdalene went to sepulcher to see the stone was taken away.

However, God did state his Word would prove you a liar.

Proverbs 30:6
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
---Follower_of_Christ on 3/12/13


Graven means carved.

Icons are painted on flat boards and are not carved.
---Cluny on 3/12/13


You've got to be kidding. Puhleeze tell me your kidding. This cannot be the intelligence level of the people I am talking to on this site.
---Jed on 3/12/13


\\Cluny, icons are graven images.\\
WRONG!Graven means carved.
Icons are painted on flat boards and are not carved.
Glory to Jesus Christ--Cluny,

Cluny, do you realize how much prayers and fasting that goes into painting a icon? Plus, only certain persons can paint icons?

But, lets talk about the graven images you don't want to talk about.

Frances asked this questions:
Which apostle made graven images and brought into any church? I answered with this scripture 1 King 8:6-8
Not an apostle, but God Himself. God told them to put a graven image in the Temple.
Read the verses.
Plus, God told them to look a bronze snake to be healed.

Plesase address those graven images ordered by GOD.
---Nikki on 3/12/13


Francis, please be more specific. What customs have we replaced on the commandments?
---Nikki on 3/12/13
Pick any two and show the scriptures

petitioned Mary or any other person dead to pray for you
Graven images, stautes, icons and brought into the church
first day, Sunday rather than 7th day Sabbath.
Rasery
Puragory
Baptized a child by sprinkling water on it's head
Priest forbdden to marry
Easter rather than passover
Christmas
Lent
---francis on 3/13/13


But there's no such thing as non-denominational, unless you are Orthodox, which is PRE-denominational.

All you are is the Denomination of Jed.
---Cluny on 3/12/13


Wow, Cluny, I didn't even know I had a denomination named after me. I'm so flattered! There you go with making no sense at all again. Orthodoxy is an actual denomination in and of itself, yet you think that orthodox are the only ones who are non-denominational? Even people who are actually non-denominational, or don't even attend church, are in a denomination of their own? With the exception of course of the orthodox! They are the only true Christians, right Cluny?
---Jed on 3/12/13




\\Cluny, icons are graven images.\\

WRONG!

Graven means carved.

Icons are painted on flat boards and are not carved.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/12/13


Not if that man made custom attempts to replace the commandmenst of God---francis on 3/12/13

Francis, please be more specific. What customs have we replaced on the commandments? In fact, all our customs and traditions comes from the commandments.

Please give an example so I can understand what you are upset about.
---Nikki on 3/12/13


Why do you think most of you all go to Church on Sundays? Because Christ rose on Sunday
The Lord Jesus Christ written of in Holy Scriptures did not rise on Sunday, however per catholic religions bible (catechism) their Jesus rose on Sunday.--Follower_of_Christ on 3/12/13

My Bible isn't the Catechism and I think you know that, but just being rude.

Lets go to the Bible. Seeing is believing.

We agree that Saturday is the Sabbath or the last day of the week.

John 20:1 It states the 1st day of the week. (Sunday)... the stone removed from the tomb.

John19:31 States it is Friday because they didn't want Jesus on the cross on the Sabbath (Saturday).

Many more from the other 3 gospels, but not enough space.
---Nikki on 3/12/13


The Lord Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath Day, nothing in Holy Scripture states the Lord Jesus is Lord of Sunday, or the "first day of week".--Follower_of_Christ on 3/12/13

Jesus rose on Sunday. Sunday happens to be the 1st day of the week.
We are saved because Jesus rose from the dead, so we celebrate his Resurrection weekly.
The first thing we do on the 1st day of the week.
We have daily Mass. But, most can't go to Church daily.
Sunday is our Sabbath.

Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath. That is why the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

Are you not acting like a Pharisee?
---Nikki on 3/12/13


Francis, I gave you several scriptures. I didn't give more because of space. Please tell me which one you wish to go into detail. I will try my best to give scripture.

When you say petitioning Mary, I guess you mean 'praying to Mary'? If so, you are also throwing in Saints as well with Mary with our 'petitioning Mary'.

Catholic don't think saints are sleeping, but in heaven with God looking at us on earth. As evident of Rev 6:9-11.
2 sets of people, living on earth and those in heaven who are watching us, and complaining to God for His time table. God has to console them and gives them white robes. They have bodies in heaven. They are people who died on earth who are now in heaven.
---Nikki on 3/12/13


Our customs are used to help us celebrate Christ. ---Nikki on 3/12/13

Not if that man made custom attempts to replace the commandmenst of God

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.

Mark 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, [as] the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

I do agree that the church can have certain costums not commanded in the bible, as long as the costum does not attempt to change God's law

How else you would build a church of wood or cement?
Have tiles or carpet
---francis on 3/12/13


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Why do you think most of you all go to Church on Sundays? Because Christ rose on Sunday

The Lord Jesus Christ written of in Holy Scriptures did not rise on Sunday, however per catholic religions bible (catechism) their Jesus rose on Sunday.

the catholic religion openly admits it created Sunday worship and rejects Gods Holy Sabbath Day. The catholic religion tells all who worship on sunday they worship catholic religion and directly disobey Gods Holy Sabbath. catholic religion fully admits there is nothing that abolishes (or changes the day of) Gods Holy Sabbath Day. The Lord Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath Day, nothing in Holy Scripture states the Lord Jesus is Lord of Sunday, or the "first day of week".
---Follower_of_Christ on 3/12/13


Jed, I understand your concern about man-made customs. But, I think you are mistaken on our motives. Our customs are used to help us celebrate Christ. Living the Bible is essential as spirituality.
I don't eat meat on Fridays to help me remember Jesus' Passion.
We are human beings who quickly forget. How we live is what we are.

Jesus celebrated all the Jews feasts and customs essential to His Father.
Many things Protestants know about Jesus is because Catholics kept the customs alive for centuries.
Why do you think most of you all go to Church on Sundays? Because Christ rose on Sunday and the Catholic Church said to keep Christ first in our lives, so He is first in our week. Christ is first in all our lives.
---Nikki on 3/12/13


---Nikki on 3/11/13
I am gonna let yupick anyone of the list and show them in scripture.

I cold pick one, but Imay pick petitioning mary, or purgatory or lent

but I will be nice, you pick and you show the scriptres
---francis on 3/12/13


\\That's the point of being simply a Christian, or non-denominational\\

But there's no such thing as non-denominational, unless you are Orthodox, which is PRE-denominational.

All you are is the Denomination of Jed.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/12/13


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Cluny, icons are graven images. You all are the leaders and experts of Icons. You all wrote the book on ICONS. But, you don't worship them as we Catholic don't.
God told the Jews to make a graven image on the Ark and place it in the Temple. God also told them to look at a bronze snake to be healed.

PASCHA is the same thing as Easter. You celebrate it, but not at the same time as Catholics.
You speak of misspelled words? I guess it was an accident as Francis.
puragory'' is spelled purgatory which is also know as final purification. You have a rich Mass praying for the dead.

Are you claiming your Priests immerse infants in water completely? Please explain.
---Nikki on 3/12/13


When did Christ command ANY of the traditions and precepts of men that I listed earlier that are part and parcel of Protestant worship?
---Cluny on 3/11/13


He didn't. That's the point of being simply a Christian, or non-denominational - to get away from all these man-made traditions and customs and just follow and believe the Bible. YOU were the one that claimed your church was pre-denominational. Your denomination is no different that any other. Traditions and customs are essentially what makes a denomination. Although some denominations, like Catholicism, actually seem to revolve around man-made customs, as if they are essential to spirituality.
---Jed on 3/12/13


To be precise in answering Nikki:

"graven images and brought into any church?"Orthodox don't have them.
"abandon sabbath" Actually, we have services in all days in many churches.
"made a rosary?" Not part of Orthodoxy.
"taught puragory?" Not part of Orthodoxy.
"baptized a child by sprinkling water.." We immerse.
priest could not get married?" Most of our priests are married.
"comand easter?" We celebrate PASCHA, not Easter.
"commanded lent?"Jesus expects us to fast. Don't you think that in 2000 years, we would be led to the practice that works best for most people?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/12/13


\\Both Orthodox and Catholic can trace it history back to Jesus and the Apostles\\
---Ruben on 3/11/13

So can Protestants, through the Roman church. What does that have to do with anything?

Those "sons of hell" that Jesus condemned traced their history back to Abraham. Did that seem to matter much to Christ ??
---James_L on 3/12/13


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Nikki, almost none of the things that you answered about are part of Orthodox practice.

I will also say that if you can't even SPELL one of the key words in a discussion (and a nameless person misspelled one of his words here), there's a good chance that you don't know what you're talking about.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/11/13


Jed:

I didn't say calling yourself Christian made you Catholic or Orthodox (i.e. members of two specific groups). I said it made you catholic (i.e. universal) and orthodox (i.e. adhering to commonly accepted beliefs). Note the difference between capitalized in the first sentence (specific names) and uncapitlized in the second case (generic adjectives).

However, these two groups name themselves after the adjectives that apply to ALL of us (see above). "A believer in Christ", "A universal Christian", and "A christian who adheres to commonly-accepted Christian beliefs" are things that all three groups would claim about themselves.
---StrongAxe on 3/11/13


When did Christ command ANY of the traditions and precepts of men that I listed earlier that are part and parcel of Protestant worship?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/11/13


Francis I hope this helps
"petitioned Mary?John19:27
"graven images and brought into any church?"1King 8:6-8
"abandon sabbath for sunday?"Christian celebrate Christ rising.
"made a rosary?" Comes from the 10 days from Ascension to Pentecost. If you wish to know the history.
"taught puragory?" Paul
"baptized a child by sprinkling water.." No sprinkling, pouring.
priest could not get married?" Matthew 16:19 from Matthew 19:12
"comand easter?" Can't we celebrate His rising?
"christmas?"You celebrate your birthday. Can't we celebrate a day for Christ?
"commanded lent?"40 days out of 365 isn't asking much to remember and repent.
---Nikki on 3/11/13


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Both Orthodox and Catholic can trace it history back to Jesus and the Apostles:
--Ruben on 3/11/13

Which apostle petitioned Mary?
Which apostle made graven images and brought into any church?
Which apostle commanded to abandon sabbath for sunday?
Which apostle made a rasary?
Which apostle taught puragory?
Which apostle baptized a child by sprinkling water on it's head?
Which apostle commanded that priest could not get married?
Whcih apostle comand easter?
Which apostle commanded christmas?
Which apostle commanded lent?
---francis on 3/11/13


I don't want to change my views and want to be saved when the time comes. Do I have a chance?
--Jennifer on 3/4/13

Jennifer, It seems you are not Catholic. I am confused. Are you Saved or not?
Catholics are a type of Christian. In fact, most of the world thinks of Christians as only Catholics or Orthodox.
Watch the news. Which Churches do you see burning?
Matthew 5:10-12
---Nikki on 3/11/13


What Cluny calls orthodoxy is the result of excommunication from the Catholic church.

These churches share the same teaching, but different leaders

This is not a secret. This is a historical fact found in any good history book
---francis on 3/10/13

This is no secret either and any history book will tell you . Both Orthodox and Catholic can trace it history back to Jesus and the Apostles:

Question, if true and it is, Why are you not Orthodox or Catholic?
---Ruben on 3/11/13


Man made rituals found in Protestant worship:

1. Hymnals.
2. Taking up a collection
3. pews
4. Invitation hymns.
5. Altar Calls
6. Revivals

None of these things dear to Bible-believing Christians are actually found in the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/11/13


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\\Both Catholicism and Orthodoxy are filled with man-made rituals,
\\

So is YOUR church, Jed.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/11/13


StrongAxe, Catholics and Orthodox are not non-denominational. To simply call yourself a Christian (without adhering to any particular denomination) doesn't make you a Catholic or Orthodox. That's just ridiculous. Both Catholicism and Orthodoxy are filled with man-made rituals, that is the biggest difference between a denomination and simply a Christian just trying to live and believe the Bible.
---Jed on 3/10/13


This is a matter of perspective. One could say the Catholic Church was excommunicated.
---Rod4Him on 3/10/13

You can say that and be 100% correct, since each did excommunicate the other.

Bottom line is: They both held SAME doctrine and same practice, had different leaders, like Sunni and Shia Muslims same beliefs, different leaders

I know some idiot is going to ask me if I am comparing them to Islam. Read the post before you waste time posting silly post
---francis on 3/10/13


//What Cluny calls orthodoxy is the result of excommunication from the Catholic church.//

This is a matter of perspective. One could say the Catholic Church was excommunicated.

//These churches share the same teaching, but different leaders//

The same could be said about 7th A., Baptist, and many other protestant churches. The protestants broke off and carried many of their teachings with them.
---Rod4Him on 3/10/13


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---StrongAxe on 3/9/13
What Cluny calls orthodoxy is the result of excommunication from the Catholic church.

These churches share the same teaching, but different leaders

This is not a secret. This is a historical fact found in any good history book
---francis on 3/10/13


Jed:

Catholics call themselves "catholic" - i.e. "universal christians". Orthodox call themselves "orthodox" - i.e. "adhering to generally accepted theology" - both generic terms.

Many evangelical Christians today who don't like labels call themselves "just Christians" - which means they aren't part of specific groups, but just part of the "universal body of Christ", and not adhering to any peculiar doctrines, just those that are accepted by all Christians - in other words, they claim to be both "catholic" and "orthodox".

Now why is it wrong when people a thousand years ago make a claim, but fine when people today make exactly the same claim?
---StrongAxe on 3/10/13


If your an baptist, presbyterian, methodist etc & you married 1 from the roman cath church, that's No big deal. Your still all in the trinity family body here, Rev. 17 v's 4 - 6.
---Lawrence on 3/10/13


\\Where do you get this stuff? Indulgences were used in the Catholic church, but as far as I can find from online resources (since I am not personally familiar with the subject), Indulgences have never been a part of traditonal Orthodoxy. Catholicism and Orthodoxy are NOT the same.\\

Thank you, StrongAxe.

Alas, too many people don't have the wit to distinguish between Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/9/13


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You don't get that Orthodoxy is BEFORE the denominations that broke off from her, do you, Jed?
---Cluny on 3/8/13



Well since both Orthodoxy and Catholicism split from the same church, it can be debated which one is truly the original. Since neither label was used before the split, it's impossible to say if the Catholicism split off Orthodoxy, or if Orthodoxy spit off Catholicism. But nonetheless, Orthodoxy is a denomination of it's own. Otherwise, they would simply use the label "Christian" or "non-denominational". But they use the label "Orthodox" for the same reason Catholics or Methodists use their labels: to create a distinction between their doctrines and other denominations.
---Jed on 3/9/13


francis:

You said: "Orthodoxy" is a false religion that believed in indulgences for sin.

Where do you get this stuff? Indulgences were used in the Catholic church, but as far as I can find from online resources (since I am not personally familiar with the subject), Indulgences have never been a part of traditonal Orthodoxy. Catholicism and Orthodoxy are NOT the same.


Also, in Did Paul Preach To Gentiles (now closed), you said that because an angel spoke as God in the first person, this meant he was God. This does not follow. Prophets spoke "I am the LORD" all the time. Nobody would suggest that these prophets were thus God. Messengers often speak in the name of those who send them.
---StrongAxe on 3/9/13


Do I have a chance?
---Jennifer_J on 3/4/13
Apparently you have different doctrinal beliefs as your spouse.

You maybe concerned about how best to raise your children, what doctrinal beliefs will they follow

You both believe that each of you have correct doctrinal beliefs

he only way to be sure that your doctrinal are biblical, is to examine each of them with the bible, and the bible only
---francis on 3/9/13


---Cluny on 3/8/13
"Orthodoxy" is a false religion that believed in indulgences for sin.

These denomination that came after are formed by people like Luther who read the bible and discovered:
Habbakuk 2:4 the just shall live by his faith,
Romans 1:17 The just shall live by faith.
Galatians 3:11 The just shall live by faith.
Hebrews 10:38 the just shall live by faith:
And left the false teaching of indulgences for sin.

Orthodoxy would later declare:
It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, that .. Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church. Priest Brady, NJ News on March 18, 1903.
---francis on 3/9/13


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But you don't get that Orthodoxy is BEFORE the denominations that broke off from her, do you, Jed?

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/8/13


\\Oh yeah, you have such great spiritual discernment that you actually think church denominations is a spiritual matter!
---Jed on 3/8/13\\

You're just proving my point, Jed.
---Cluny on 3/8/13


No, you're proving my point. There is nothing spiritual about church denominations. Demoniations are a worldy thing, labels created by man for fickle individuals like yourself. They were not created by God. You're denomination gives you nothing "spiritual", you just have a bunch of "spare-rituals".
---Jed on 3/8/13


\\Oh yeah, you have such great spiritual discernment that you actually think church denominations is a spiritual matter!
---Jed on 3/8/13\\

You're just proving my point, Jed.

**Most definitely not with the same Spirit. .......
And if you're saying you're in tune with the Almighty God in heaven, than I should be in tune with the devil from the pits of hell.**

You said it. I didn't, christan.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/8/13


Jennifer_J: //I don't want to change my views and want to be saved when the time comes.// Now is the time for salvation, tomorrow may be too late. Once you know that you need to surrender your life to the Lord Jesus Christ, do not delay any longer. Seize the opportunity available today, do it now!
---Adetunji on 3/8/13


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Next, you are apparently a member of the Church of christan, which is a denomination, even if only of one.
---Cluny on 3/6/13

None of that makes an sense whatsoever.
---Jed on 3/6/13

Of course it makes no sense to you, Jed. I would not expect it to. That's because spiritual things are spiritually discerned.
---Cluny on 3/6/13


Oh yeah, you have such great spiritual discernment that you actually think church denominations is a spiritual matter!
---Jed on 3/8/13


"I just don't know about you, christan, and with whom YOU are in tune." Cluny

Most definitely not with the same Spirit. And that I gather from the doctrines you believe in is gulf apart (and I mean like heaven and hell apart) from the ones I believe in.

And if you're saying you're in tune with the Almighty God in heaven, than I should be in tune with the devil from the pits of hell.

We'll most definitely not have to wait long to find out our direction to the gates then.
---christan on 3/7/13


Cluny: 'I know I am"

While I have a suspicion that you are, I do not feel that this statement is one that is good for one, even one within the Apostolic Succession, to make without outside evidence, and since in an online side outside evidence cannot be provided (one of the problems of online sides), you will have to know that you are true, but cannot prove yourselves true...... it is sad, but true (in this world)
---Peter on 3/7/13


No, I don't think.

I KNOW I do a better job of discerning spiritual things than you do.

So there!
---Cluny on 3/6/13


That's a laugh!
---Jed on 3/7/13


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\\Well, if you're "born of the Spirit by the will of God", you'll be spiritually in-tune with God the Father and you will do the will of the Father.\\

I know I am.

I just don't know about you, christan, and with whom YOU are in tune.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/7/13


"I KNOW I do a better job of discerning spiritual things than you do." Cluny

Well, if you're "born of the Spirit by the will of God", you'll be spiritually in-tune with God the Father and you will do the will of the Father.

But, if you're not, you're also spiritually in-tune. That is, in-tune with the father of lies - "and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
---christan on 3/7/13


\\You don't actually think that YOU discern spirtually do you?
---Jed on 3/6/13\\

No, I don't think.

I KNOW I do a better job of discerning spiritual things than you do.

So there!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/6/13


Jennifer J: It is very hard for me to understand anything as to what you are asking......

First: When you married a Catholic man, did you assume Catholics had some beliefs that would be dangerous to you?

If so, why did you marry him

If you thought your husband's beliefs would damage your baby, why did you have a baby?

All these things cannot be sorted out now, but it is hard for me to understand the concerns
---Peter on 3/6/13


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"you are apparently a member of the Church of christan" Cluny

Wow! Didn't know I had "a church" of my own to begin with. You're sure sounding desperate with regards to the Truth of the Lord Jesus Christ. But I'm sure if you continue to keep on "repeating the same thing over again" (as Jed says) even though they are lies against the Word, sooner or later, they'll become "truth" to you, aka deception.

Just like this one, "Your husband is a Christian, too, just a different kind of Christians." Never heard of a "different christian" before, though Christ did warned - a "false christian who worships a false christ".
---christan on 3/6/13


Of course it makes no sense to you, Jed. I would not expect it to.

That's because spiritual things are spiritually discerned.
---Cluny on 3/6/13


You don't actually think that YOU discern spirtually do you?
---Jed on 3/6/13


\\None of that makes an sense whatsoever. And repeating the same thing over again doesn't make it anymore logical.
---Jed on 3/6/13\\

Of course it makes no sense to you, Jed. I would not expect it to.

That's because spiritual things are spiritually discerned.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/6/13


First off, Orthodoxy is PRE-denominational.

Next, you are apparently a member of the Church of christan, which is a denomination, even if only of one.
---Cluny on 3/6/13


None of that makes an sense whatsoever. And repeating the same thing over again doesn't make it anymore logical.
---Jed on 3/6/13


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The blog question might more accurately read: "I am an evangelical Christian and married a Catholic Christian". Both Evangelicals and Catholics consider themselves Christians, and bristle strongly at anyone suggesting otherwise. If you don't want other people to say you're not a Christian because you're a member of this and that group, you shouldn't say the same to them (by the Golden Rule).

Ultimately, at the Final Judgment, Jesus will let us know just how faithful we all were, and it will hit many people as a big surprise (see Matthew 25).
---StrongAxe on 3/6/13


Hi Jennifer,

I am a Catholic so lets start with:

1)I don't want to change my views- What are your views?

2)want to be saved when the time comes- Not sure what this means?

3)Do I have a chance? Being a Catholic you have a huge chance. I will explain later:)

Thanks
---Ruben on 3/6/13


"Be prepared for both of you to switch to a new denomination" francis

"A new denomination"? What wisdom!

"When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out, and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.

Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation."
Matthew 12:43-45
---christan on 3/6/13


\\Now just because you're denominational, you would also like to assume I am?\\

First off, Orthodoxy is PRE-denominational.

Next, you are apparently a member of the Church of christan, which is a denomination, even if only of one.

Your saying you're not a member of a denomination, doesn't mean you're not.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/6/13


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Do I have a chance?
---Jennifer_J on 3/4/13
YES YOU DO
YOU BOTH DO.

Here is my advice
1: Sit down with your spouse tell h8m how you feel,
2: Affirm your love for him and you commitment to your marriage
3:Afrirm his desire to serve God
4: affirm your desire to serve God
_____________________________
Ask him if he is willing to take a month or two to examine each others denominational teaching THE BIBLE ONLY

WHY: because you both wish to serve God

PLAN: Every weekend, examine three dotrine using the bible

Use an online bible, type in a word see all that God has God say about it
_____________________________
Be prepared for both of you to switch to a new denomination
---francis on 3/6/13


//I'm a Christian and married a Catholic//

Bad move
---michael_e on 3/6/13


I'm sure if examined, you will be found to be quite denominational, even if it's a denomination of just one person.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/13


That made absolutely no sense at all.
---Jed on 3/5/13


"I'm sure if examined, you will be found to be quite denominational, even if it's a denomination of just one person." Cluny

Now just because you're denominational, you would also like to assume I am? Please feel free to analyze all of my blogs and tell me which denomination I belong to, provided you can find it. May the force be with you...
---christan on 3/5/13


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Christians pray to God. Non-Christians pray to other people besides God.
---Jed on 3/5/13


\\And for your information, I'm a CHRISTIAN, period.
---christan on 3/5/13\\

Arius, Sabellius, Marcian, and the various other heretics and gnostics made the same claim for themselves.

I'm sure if examined, you will be found to be quite denominational, even if it's a denomination of just one person.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/13


"I can just as well argue that the Protestant faiths are not Christian." Cluny

Replying for the sake of replying without reading what I've said exposes your frustration with the truth. Here, this is what I wrote - "So, for one to say I'm a Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Baptist, etc other than a CHRISTIAN is to "literally" divide Christ."

And for your information, I'm a CHRISTIAN, period.
---christan on 3/5/13


\\As wivv rightly pointed out, the RC faith is not Christian\\

I can just as well argue that the Protestant faiths are not Christian.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/13


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As wivv rightly pointed out, the RC faith is not Christian contrary to what some are saying, like "Your husband is a Christian, too, just a different kind of Christians." That's totally unbiblical and a lie. Paul questioned the Corinthians, "Is Christ divided?"

So,for one to say I'm a Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Baptist, etc other than a CHRISTIAN is to "literally" divide Christ.

As wivv says, "you're stuck" but do not give up hope in the Lord. "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Repent and seek forgiveness from the Lord and He will make a way for you, though at times it will be very painful along the way.
---christan on 3/5/13


What I need is more detail on your statement:"want to be saved when the time comes" Who are you "talking" about? But, to answer your question as best as possible: you are "stuck"! 1 Corinthians 7:13-14 (NASB77)
"And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, let her not send her husband away. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife,...." Your best way to handle this situation is to pray for him. (I have to assume that even though your husband may be a Catholic, he's not a Christian. By the way, there are a lot of Protestants who also think they are Christians, but aren't)
---wivv on 3/4/13


Your husband is a Christian, too, just a different kind of Christians.

Protestants do NOT a monopoly on the name "Christian."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/4/13


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