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Christian, At least we're narrowing it down.
**saves the sinner from eternal death**
You just admitted it...eternal death is the opposite of eternal life,again as I stated John.3.16 "that whosoever believes might not PERISH but have everlasting life"
You don't understand "perish" to cease to exist! You obviously doubt that God can recreate your soul in a resurrection,My ,that is a shallow belief!
---1st_cliff on 3/15/13


1stCliff, "redeeming" is saving one from sin and does not imply that the soul or the spirit is not immortal. That's so much you understanding of the redemption work of Christ. His death and resurrection saves the sinner from eternal death which was where he was heading to from the day he was born into this world.

And if Christ does not "redeem" you, it's plain and simple your walk to the broad gate will continue, which means your soul still exist no matter how hard you deny it. Denial is the consequence of unbelief.

And calling you a "big fat liar" implies you're "fat"? Know what's a metaphor? I'm frustrated? O please, don't flatter yourself.
---christan on 3/15/13


Christian, Actually I'm not very "fat"!
Your abusive words is one of frustration since you can't answer my questions, you attack my person!
**God taketh away his soul**
**the Lord redeemeth my soul**
**God will redeem my soul**
All your quotes.
All proof that the soul is not immortal but requires "redeeming"!
You're not man enough to admit it!
---1st_cliff on 3/15/13


Let's see if I got it right Cliff: The mortal soul, that is man's body, dies. So, therefore our souls no longer exist at death? That means ALL the sins we committed in our existing bodies will no longer exist? Thereby, when God raises ALL the dead humans, who ever lived on planet earth, they will ALL be new/different souls, BUT HAVING THEIR FORMER MENTAL FACULTIES/AWARENESS/MIND, but as such will not have ever performed any acts of sin because they will be 100% sinless (innocent)? So, there really will not have been a need for Jesus to die for our sins because all the new "sinless" souls will ALL be going to heaven anyway, & no one will be thrown into the Lake of Fire with the devil, etc.? Is that right?!

NOT SO!!!
---Leon on 3/15/13


"Cannot come up with one scripture that says the soul is immortal..." 1stCliff

"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched. For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained, when God taketh away his soul?"

"The Lord redeemeth the soul of His servants: and none of them that trust in Him shall be desolate. And my soul shall be joyful in the Lord: it shall rejoice in his salvation."

"But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for He shall receive me. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from Him cometh my salvation."
---christan on 3/15/13




Christan, Our human souls were created before the "foundation of the World". Before the Earth was filled with GOD's Creation, our souls were created in Heaven. After Satan's Rebellion GOD gave each soul the Choice between siding with GOD or with Satan. When our souls are sent to Earth, we play out the same Choice on Earth as we chose in Heaven. Some chose GOD in Heaven and they choose HIM now on Earth. Some chose to trust Satan and they trust him on Earth. Others chose GOD at first but later turned away to side with Satan. They are as the sanctified of HEBREWS 10:29. Most play out their initial Choice. So, it's not that GOD created some souls on purpose just to Damn them. For everyone has been given a Choice at some point in time.
---Gordon on 3/15/13


1stCliff, since you believe that your soul will cease to exist after life on earth, why bother talking about the Gospel of Jesus Christ? You might as well go around plundering, raping, murder and maybe take for yourself 300 concubines and 700 wives. After all, you shouldn't be worried about having to settle any account with God with regards to all your sins, since your soul will cease to exist, right?

You should just go your merry way and not bore yourself with the conversations that's happening around here. Why be a hypocrite? Because that's what you really are, a big fat hypocrite.
---christan on 3/15/13


That is a great passage which tells us that those who are lost do not have God, and are not willing to come to Christ,
"John 5:38_41 "And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. You search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men."
And God does not receive honor from any of them.
God has to make them willing. On their own they are not willing to come to Christ, they think by reading Scripture they have eternal life.
---Mark_V. on 3/15/13


Christian, Mr. Knowitall ,does not believe the soul ceases to exist at death.
Never read Eccl. that the dead "know nothing"
Cannot come up with one scripture that says the soul is immortal even though soul is mentioned more than 800 times!
Mr. Smat show one scripture that says the soul in immortal, deathless or never dieing!
Of course you can refer to Alma 42.9 the Book of Mormon that says the soul never dies. Are you LDS?
---1st_cliff on 3/15/13


John 5:38_41 "And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men."

The Jews were after Jesus for his non compliance with Scripture. The word had been to no effect in them. He called them selfish and self serving when he said:

John 5:46_47 "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?" Yet, they with their lips professed Moses.
---Nana on 3/15/13




Gordon, call a spade a spade. Or as Paul said, "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love"

Your explanation is like a dog chasing its own tail. You're trying to avoid the obvious fact of election, clearly taught in Romans 9. "Ordain" is define by dictionary as, "to destine or predestine, to select for or appoint". That is, God chooses and the sinner benefits from His grace of salvation, as in this matter. And if God chooses, what's there for the sinner to choose anymore but to go to Him in obedience by His awesome will. Unless you're more powerful than God to thwart His will. Are you?
---christan on 3/14/13


christan: "But we do today [have verses numbers in the bible]."

Verses are a detriment to the maturing christian. Especially in today's over educated people who after having great worldly knowledge in language think they know the meaning of each verse. Individual verses can be twisted to mean anything and interpreted any way imaginable and taken out of context (as you can see from the many books, posts on blogs, and denominational churches that have come to be because of the worldly interpretation of verses). Memorizing verses does not show the wisdom behind the overall context of what is written in scripture.
---Steveng on 3/14/13


Christan, ACTS 13:48b "...and, as many as were ORDAINED to Eternal Life believed." That word "ordained" means that once someone receives Salvation they are THEN "ordained", or "established and appointed" unto Life Eternal. That word "ordained" is different than the words of "pre-ordained" and "fore-ordained". Those two latter words mean to be "pre-established" or "pre-appointed AHEAD OF TIME" unto something, like how YOU and Mr.V. believe concerning Salvation. But, the Bible does not use the words "pre" or "fore-ordained". Now, I'm just gonna sit back an' watch you wiggle out of this one. You wanted Bible.....I gave you Bible.
---Gordon on 3/14/13


Animals just being themselves brings GOD Glory. Animals may have been greatly attracted to YAHUSHUA when He walked the Earth. As with St. Francis of Assisi. I believe that animals can recognize their Creator, and maybe get excited, in their own animal-type way, on seeing their Maker. GOD created the Four Living Creatures who are stationed at the Throne of GOD. They cry out "HOLY, HOLY, HOLY!!!" all Eternity long. By that I imply that GOD HAS created highly intelligent animals with speech capabilities, and it could be that it will be so with at least some of the animals in Heaven. Just as we are limited down here in our fleshly bodies, so are the animals. And, as in Heaven, we'll be super-spiritual, so will the animals there, as well.
---Gordon on 3/14/13


Jed: Perhaps when Mark & Chris finish covering their feet on your blog, we can then get back to discussing "Do animals worship God?". I hate it when rude people, like them, crash (hijack) a blog & dump their self-serving, stinkin' thinkin' all over it! :)
---Leon on 3/14/13


Can animals comprehend salvation? The Ten Commandments? Worship? Prayer? The beginnings?

Do animals pray? Worship God?

Can you imagine Jesus preaching the gospel to all the animals in their own "language" - barking to the dogs, oinking to the pigs, neighing to the horses, etc.
---Steveng on 3/13/13


markv and christan seem to think all but the elect ARE nothing more than animals.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/13


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"He tried to use Bible Verses to defend his own belief of that false interpretation of Predestination." Gordon

O, please do enlighten us from your perspective of what predestination is according to you. The very fact there are verses to prove what predestination is according to Scriptures means the predestination I believe is based on Scripture, not like you, just all talk and rejection of Scripture. Talk is cheap.

So, what is your based on? Go ahead, you have the floor...... I'm all ears.
---christan on 3/14/13


Christan, Both mankind and animals have souls. But, it is the souls of MAN that will be held accountable to GOD. Not the souls of animals. For, it was MAN that was created in GOD's Image. The souls of men and of animals are of different and varying capabilities and limitations, and, that, by GOD's own design. Thus the souls are different between men and animals. (Otherwise, explain to us all what happens to an animal when it is dies. What was inside of the now empty carcass of a dead animal, which was ALIVE before?? What WAS that inside of the living animal's body? A blob of....air? Of....oh, "something" that had life and intelligence, and....? What would you call it??)
---Gordon on 3/14/13


O Gordon, do I teach you to fear me? I am but a sinner that depends on the mercy and grace of God for salvation, so why fear me? Wasn't it Christ who taught:

"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." No man can kill the soul but only God.

"...even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: WHEREUNTO ALSO THEY WERE APPOINTED." 1 Peter 2:8 - know what this means? Predestined to disobey! And you mock predestination? Guess what? It's been predestined by God.
---christan on 3/14/13


"And remember, they didn't have verse numbers back in those days. Verse nubers began almost three hundred years ago." Steveng

But we do today, so there's no reason why anyone who wants to "paraphrase" from the Bible had better be ready to support his "paraphrase" with the verses that says what they are claiming. No doubt we all should adopt the Bereans spirit of checking the Bible for ourselves to know if what someone is claiming to be Truth.

Needless to go into the doctrines of some who claim what they say to be Bible truth but can never produce the verse that supports their believe. When they're shown Scriptures that contradicts them, they hurl abuse and insults.
---christan on 3/14/13


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_g, Fear ye not those words of Christan. He tried to use Bible Verses to defend his own belief of that false interpretation of Predestination. Actually, those Verses do not apply to FALSE DOCTRINES. So, continue in I THESSALONIANS 5:21! :-)
---Gordon on 3/14/13


g, by your definition "all living things have lungs and breathe", and if your theory is right, why can't they talk and converse with you like humans converse with one another? After all, things being equal according to you, since they also have "lungs and breathe". See how foolish your theory sounds?

Do you even realise come judgment day, the soul of the man will be held accountable for their sins to God? What then becomes to the "souls of your animals"? Are they also held accountable? Last I checked, the laws of God was explicitly given to mankind and not the animals! O, btw, can't you see the difference between the man and the animals apart from us having "lungs and breathe"?
---christan on 3/14/13


"Mark_V.: "Christan, the reason Leon make all the blogs with no answers in Scripture for, is to add to Scripture what is not there to begin with."

Mark V, just because one doesn't quote the exact verse does not mean it's not biblical. Paraphrasing is just one way to say something when a verse number cannot be remembered. The apostles did it all the time that's why the Bereans needed to search the scriptures to see what Paul and Silas was preaching was true.

And remember, they didn't have verse numbers back in those days. Verse numbers began almost three hundred years ago."
---Steveng on 3/13/13


Exactly Steveng!
---Leon on 3/14/13


Mark_V.: "Christan, the reason Leon make all the blogs with no answers in Scripture for, is to add to Scripture what is not there to begin with."

Mark V, just because one doen not quote the exact verse does not mean it's not biblical. Paraphrasing is just one way to say something when a verse number cannot be remembered. The apostles did it all the time that's why the Bareans needed to search the scriptures to see what Paul and Silas was preaching was true.

And remember, they didn't have verse numbers back in those days. Verse nubers began almost three hundred years ago.
---Steveng on 3/13/13


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The pupose of Jesus coming to earth was to save man not all animals.

There were two animals that spoke in the bible, the serpent and Balaam's ass. The first possessed by angel and the second by God.

Can animals comprehend salvation? The Ten Commandments? Worship? Prayer? The beginnings?

Do animals pray? Worship God?

Can you imagine Jesus preaching the gospel to all the animals in their own "language" - barking to the dogs, oinking to the pigs, neighing to the horses, etc.
---Steveng on 3/13/13


1stCliff, I wrote "the purpose of eternity will have no meaning" is because you said "the soul ceases to exist". Why would God send some to eternal life and others to eternal death, if according to you "the soul ceases to exist"?

And why even bother to quote John 3:16 if you explicitly believe ""the soul ceases to exist"?????

You write so much nonsense that you loose track of what you say when others reply to you.
---christan on 3/13/13


Leon, if saying such words to me like,
"Put a dirty sock in your accusation filled, lying mouth Mark." trying to insult me to comfort your heart, go for it. You are proving what Scripture says about those who are insulted for speaking for the Word of God,
"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you"
By keeping up your insults all they do is makes me rejoice and glad. So no, what you say does not bother me, you are not getting to me, in reality by your words I am bless more by God.
---Mark_V. on 3/14/13


---christan on 3/13/13

So how do you explain that all living things have lungs and breathe?

The Bible says it is God who gives life and breath to every living thing.
That IS Bible.
Unless of course you don't believe God.
In which case I sure do believe God is the reason everything has life and breath.
Also, if they didn't not, then whay were they used as an example of the sacrifice CHrist made for us?
They would not have been acceptable to God if they were not. And God wouyld not have commanded Israel to sacrifice if they weren't.
Like I said, you lack understanding, blind leading the blind.
---g on 3/14/13


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Christian, You say the purpose of eternity will have no meaning?
John.3.16 says "That whosoever believeth might have EVERLASTING life".The alternitive is everlasting death! No comprende?
---1st_cliff on 3/13/13


"I don't know for certain, but, I do not doubt that animals may very well relate with us Believers on the New Earth in a more profound way than ever" Leon

I'm sure the JWs would welcome you with open arms into their flock.

"We all have the BREATH of life in us. The same breath of Life that was given to Adam and Eve." g

A classic example of ADDING on to the Word of God is being demonstrated by you. You will notice that "and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and MAN became a living soul". No where in God's other creations does He explicitly tells us this, not even the animals after they were created.
---christan on 3/13/13


"They are disputing this because it messes with their beliefe of "predestination"" g

You can't mess with predestination no matter how hard you try. That's because God explicitly tells us, people like you have been predestined, "even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed." 1 Peter 2:8

Yours and the many others who deny predestination is basically an act of disobedience and unbelief to the Word of God, which Peter declares, "WHEREUNTO ALSO THEY WERE APPOINTED."

Go on, mock predestination all you want, you're merely fulfilling God's purpose and will, period. There will be consequence to it though.
---christan on 3/13/13


"Leon, What some... nay-sayers will find out, someday, is how intelligent GOD created animals & how much more advanced animals are than many realize. NO animal compares to GOD's creation of the human being, but, animals have instincts, feelings & a degree of emotions...GOD's creative Powers are enormous & endless. Even an ass dialogued with Balaam when GOD HIMSELF opened her mouth...I don't doubt animals may very well relate with us Believers on the New Earth in a more profound way than ever. Animals on Earth have been affected & limited because of man's sin. I believe animals naturally fear man on account of his sinful nature. Does that not ring true?"
---Gordon on 3/13/13


AMEN BROTHER GORDON!!!
---Leon on 3/13/13


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Leon,

Animals are living souls also.
when they die the breath of God that gave them life goes back to God. Just like it does with every single human being on the planet.

We all have the BREATH of life in us. The same breath of Life that was given to Adam and Eve.
They are disputing this because it messes with their beliefe of "predestination"

They don't want it said that God put breath in every breathing person and creature on the planet.

They don't even understand what the sacrifice of animals represented to the Israelites.
How could they understand this?
They are the blind leading the blind.
---g on 3/13/13


Leon, What some of these nay-sayers will find out, someday, is how intelligent GOD created the animals and how much more advanced animals are than many realize. NO animal compares to GOD's creation of the human being, but, animals have instincts, feelings and a degree of emotions, though very limited. GOD's creative Powers are enormous and endless. Even an ass dialogued with Balaam when GOD HIMSELF opened her mouth. I don't know for certain, but, I do not doubt that animals may very well relate with us Believers on the New Earth in a more profound way than ever. Animals on Earth have been affected and limited, in part, because of mankind's sin. I believe animals naturally fear man on account of his sinful nature. Does that not ring true?
---Gordon on 3/13/13


Brother MarkV, that's true about what you've just said though I find it rather a little coincidental that Leon and someone else here sound rather similar in tone and attitude. But that's just speculation on my end.

Now you get another loonie tune quoting Psalm 148:4-10 to join in the "animals have souls movement". And when you read the whole of Psalm 148:1-14, you will know and realise that the Psalmist was giving full praise to the Lord God for all that He has created.

Instead of being like the Psalmist in praising God for all that He has created, these "fools" use David's psalm to justify that animals have souls. Now you know why Paul wrote Romans 1:19-23.
---christan on 3/13/13


Obviously Chris what I say has gotten your goat because you repeatedly keep ignorantly butting up against the truth. What more can be said. Peace! :)

Put a dirty sock in your accusation filled, lying mouth Mark. :) You're the one who picks fights with the people who don't agree with you.
---Leon on 3/13/13


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1stCliff, "the soul ceases to exist"? Seriously? God didn't create the "living soul" that it'll cease to exist or the purpose of eternity will have no meaning. We're told there's eternity to life and death. So how did you get the idea that the "soul ceases to exist"?

The body that's made from dust is what God cursed to return to dust. He did not curse the soul to return to dust, and that's because the soul was not made from dust. Scripture says, "the Lord God... breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul".

The body that's made from dust was just a vessel that contained the soul and spirit - which is manifested in the flesh.
---christan on 3/12/13


Obviously what I say has gotten your goat because you repeatedly keep ignorantly butting up against the truth. What more can be said. Peace! :)
---Leon on 3/12/13


Of course you can believe as you like Cliff. :)
---Leon on 3/13/13


Christan, the reason Leon make all the blogs with no answers in Scripture for, is to add to Scripture what is not there to begin with. He starts all kinds of answers from others and pretty soon he is getting mad at you for answering. He says your answer is wrong, when really there is no answer to the questions he ask, they are all speculations not written by the writers of Scripture. Then he calls you names as he does to me for telling him he should not do that. Every day its a spiritual battle.
---Mark_V. on 3/13/13


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Leon, heard of the term, "creatures of habits", obviously not. Because, if you have, stupid questions like yours should never even be a part of a Godly conversation. Not that yours is even anywhere near a Godly conversation anyways.

Have you read anywhere in the Scriptures of the prophets and apostles talking about animals the way you and some here do? Worse of all, using Psalm 150:6 to say animals worship God. If they do, you're worse than them in terms of your level of intelligence and insulting God.

That's because He made man in His own image, NOT the animals! And for that you say animals have souls? You're not a Christian but an evolutionist in sheep clothing's.
---christan on 3/12/13


Christan, Human beings are of a physical body, soul and spirit. Animals also have souls, that is where their animal traits and FEELINGS come from, that they possess, which GOD instilled. As Leon said, animals are not like us humans, which are created in GOD's Image, but, they do have the breath of life as we do. I mean, they do BREATHE, right...? Animals cannot sin. They are subject, therefore, to Damnation. The Serpent in Eden may have been an exception, IN A SENSE, since it let Satan fill it. It WAS cursed, anyhow. Animals WILL be in Heaven, but not by Salvation, as we go. But, by GOD's LOVE for HIS Creation and for HIS people. GOD loves HIS animal Creation. The Earthly pets of Believers will be in Heaven awaiting their owners to join them.
---Gordon on 3/12/13


Leon, Your belief is not unique to you, actually most evangelicals subscribe to that theory.
I see it this way, three parts to the creation of man.
#1 Dust of the ground (including mind as you say)
#2 Breath of life !
#3 Man "becomes" a living soul!
Two elements produce a third
Example= Electricity + filament= light.
Remove either one and the light ceases!
Remove the breath of life or the dust of the ground ,the soul ceases to exist and is totally dependent on God remaking (resurrecting) to become a soul again!
What resurrection is all about!
---1st_cliff on 3/12/13


Excellent Kathr! :)
---Leon on 3/12/13


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Psalm 148 <----Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.

4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

5 Let them praise the name of the Lord: for he commanded, and they were created.

6 He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass.

7 Praise the Lord from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:

8 Fire, and hail, snow, and vapours, stormy wind fulfilling his word:

9 Mountains, and all hills, fruitful trees, and all cedars:

10 Beasts, and all cattle, creeping things, and flying fowl.
---kathr4453 on 3/12/13


/define worship/
francis

The choice to honor or give something a highly desired position or attention in your daily life.

Animals as a part of creation do display the glory of God.
---Scott1 on 3/12/13


"...'MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.' [G2:7...pertains [solely] to [man's creation only] or God would have said, " & all things He created became living souls".

To say animals have souls [says some will be] in heaven..."
---christan on 3/11/13


Chris: You presume too much! Do you believe animals are some kind of mindless, programmable robots? Do they not think? Aren't they aware of their existence? How then do you think animals were made by God?! Yes Chris, animals, like man, also have souls. The difference is we, not they, are made in God's image. That's what gives man the decided edge over them.

According to the Prophet Daniel & Apostle John, there are animals in Heaven.
---Leon on 3/12/13


1stCliff, first you say your source of understanding what a soul is, comes from Readers' Digest! How enlightening.

Now you have no choice but to use Scripture from Numbers 31:28. Even then your understanding of "souls" found in that Scripture is erroneous. The word "souls" is used in the context of lives! It does not imply the "beeves, asses and sheep" have a soul.

I'll ask you a couple of grade 3 questions:
1. was the law from God given to man and animals or to only man?
2. can animals sin against God? If yes, how? Can they repent? And how?

The uniqueness of the man God created as compared to His other creations is the man has a body, soul and spirit.
---christan on 3/12/13


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"Leon, Let's get things correct, breath is not soul , (pneuma/ruach ) Breath is 'spirit'"
---1st_cliff on 3/11/13


Cliff: As I understand your position, you believe the physical body of man is our soul. So, when the body dies (brain activity ceases to exist) so too does the soul since it is the physical body of man.

I believe otherwise: When God breathed His Spirit into the nostril of man, physical man became a living soul (a spirit man resident in the brain). God's Spirit activated man's physical brain with a MIND ~ in other words a SOUL (a cognizant spirit man). So, when one's physical body dies the soul (mind) departs & either goes to be with the Lord or else to Hell.
---Leon on 3/12/13


"Maybe the bible's too difficult for you,perhaps you should try Reader's Digest?" 1stCliff

And Reader's Digest is your source of spiritual reference and information to the Word of God? Seriously? I rest my case......
---christan on 3/12/13


1Cliff, I am not upset at you. I take into consideration that you cannot help who you are. I just try to correct your false ideas, so that others don't fall for your errors. I am hoping one day the Lord zap's you and brings you to faith. Faith in the Word. Who after all is Christ.
---Mark_V. on 3/12/13


Christian, OK Mr. Knowitall Numbers 31 28 "And levy a tribute unto the Lord of the men of war which went out to battle one "SOUL"of five hundred BOTH of the persons and of the beeves and of the asses and of the sheep" KJV The NIV leaves it out altogether (more bible tampering!)
That's just one of many,many!
---1st_cliff on 3/12/13


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1stCliff, are the both of you from the same institution of "animals have souls"? You say I know "diddily squat about "soul"? Well, let's see about Scripture say to that.

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL." Genesis 2:7 - you will notice this pertains explicitly to the creation of man only or God would have said, "and all things He created became living souls".

To say animals have souls is also to say you will find some in heaven and in hell, right? After all, souls are those whom God will cast into hell isn't it?

And stop sharing your medications!
---christan on 3/11/13


Christian, From your last post to Leon it's obvious that you know diddily squat about "soul" (psyche/ nephesh) a living sentient creature!
Maybe the bible's too difficult for you,perhaps you should try Reader's Digest?
---1st_cliff on 3/11/13


Leon, if I do need to take my meds, you must be having an overdosed from them yourself.

You yap away like a crazy telling people that animals have souls and cannot provide us with Scripture of such a teaching. And to top it off with your frenzy, you quote Psalm 150:6 to justify your loose screw.

You claim animals have a soul which then must lead to the conclusion that they too have sinned against God, that's because it's been declared, "the soul that sinneth shall die". And that's not a sign of someone who needs their medication?

You need to keep your prescriptions for yourself and not share them, ok? Now, go rest...
---christan on 3/11/13


Leon, Let's get things correct, breath is not soul , (pneuma/ruach )Breath is "spirit"
---1st_cliff on 3/11/13


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Mark V,** Is ther anything in the word of God you can say Amen to?**
Absolutely Mark ,I'll stake my life on it!
You're upset that I point out errors ? Just let people be missled? Is that your position?
If you didn't know that animals "ARE" souls then you've been missled. Get a copy of Strong's Concordance and see for your self!
---1st_cliff on 3/11/13


"...And animals have a soul and they sin? [?]...Didn't you once say, 'What's quite evident is your blind "foolishness'"?"
---christan on 3/11/13


I didn't just "once say" that to you Chris. It was very recently that I said that & I still stand firmly on my statement. :)

Exhale, take your meds, get a grip & pay attention. This blog has to do with whether or not animals worship God. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SIN. Get it?!
---Leon on 3/11/13


"....if the creature doesn't have "breath (a soul)" it can't worship God?" Leon

And animals have a soul and they sin? Gee, haven't you read, "Behold, all souls are mine, as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:4 and "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 18:28

Are the above verses referring to the animal kingdom or explicitly to the man?

Didn't you once say, "What's quite evident is your blind "foolishness""?
---christan on 3/11/13


1Cliff, will you ever praise the Word of God? Is there anything in the Word of God that you can say Amen to? As far as you are concern, we have no Truth at all. Let's just burn every Bible because you have found them all corrupt. This way we can think like you. Sorry cliff, that will never happen.
---Mark_V. on 3/11/13


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"It's obvious that the majority on here do not know the definition of "soul".
A living sentient creature!
Animals ARE souls (nephesh) Gen.1.9.translated "creatures" by bible tampering translators.
See Strong's Concordance #5315 Nephesh and a whole list of Nephesh (soul) mistranslated creatures throughout the bible.
Don't believe me, look it up!"
---1st_cliff on 3/10/13


Specifically, a "breathing" creature. In other words, if the creature doesn't have "breath (a soul)" it can't worship God? Frankly, a dead "souless (breathless) body" can't do anything Cliff! :)

"...Let everything that has breath praise the Lord." (Psalms 150:6, NIV)
---Leon on 3/10/13


It's obvious that the majority on here do not know the definition of "soul".
A living sentient creature!
Animals ARE souls (nephesh) Gen.1.9.translated "creatures" by bible tampering translators.
See Strong's Concordance #5315 Nephesh and a whole list of Nephesh (soul) mistranslated creatures throughout the bible.
Don't believe me, look it up!
---1st_cliff on 3/10/13


"...See the foolishness of quoting Psalm 150:6 to justify one belief that animals worship God? Mind of a depraved soul."
---christan on 3/9/13


What's quite evident is your blind "foolishness".
---Leon on 3/10/13


"The majority of Christians believe that the "breath of God" given to people is a soul. I disagree. If that were true, then animals would also have souls," jerry6593

Did the triune God say this of the animals He created as He said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness... So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them." Animals were never in His image!

So if God chose to only give the man a body, soul and spirit, you have a problem with how He chose to create? Wow! Why do you find it hard to believe that He made animals void of the soul and spirit? Now isn't that creation awesome? That's why He's God!
---christan on 3/10/13


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Do mountains bring peace to the people?

Do mountains skipped like rams?

Do the heavens, the lower part of the earth, the mountains, the trees sing?

Do the trees of the field clap their hands?

Do the mountains of Israel really hear the word of the Lord God?

Do the mountains drop down new wine and the hills flow with milk?

Can fields be joyful, the trees rejoice?

These are just a few verses that are part of the poetry of the word of God.

Besides, your are taking Psalms 150:6 out of context.
---Steveng on 3/9/13


The majority of Christians believe that the "breath of God" given to people is a soul. I disagree. If that were true, then animals would also have souls, since:

Ecc 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts, even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other, yea, they have all ONE BREATH, so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast:


---jerry6593 on 3/10/13


Quoting Psalm 150:6 and then for someone else to say "They have emotions just like we do..." is truly mind boggling. I don't blame shira for packing up and leaving.

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL." Genesis 2:7

Did anywhere in Scriptures tells us:
- that "animals became a living soul"?
- that animals will worship God in spirit and in truth?
- that God told Pharaoh to "let my people and animals go that they may worship me in the wilderness"?

See the foolishness of quoting Psalm 150:6 to justify one belief that animals worship God? Mind of a depraved soul.
---christan on 3/9/13


folks, I won't be on here for a while. some of these questions are so dumb, I just can't take it anymore. God bless everyone.
---shira4368 on 3/9/13


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"Leon I like that scripture. Some animals worship, adore, love, long for, miss, seek their earthly masters, seems like worship of God would be in there somewhere. They have emotions just like we do and show them also, why not some sense of God who gave them life and allowed them to have all those feelings."
---Darlene_1 on 3/9/13


I agree Darlene! :)
---Leon on 3/9/13


Leon I like that scripture. Some animals worship,adore,love,long for,miss,seek their earthly masters,seems like worship of God would be in there somewhere. They have emotions just like we do and show them also,why not some sense of God who gave them life and allowed them to have all those feelings.
---Darlene_1 on 3/9/13


define worship


Matthew 8:27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

The animals do obey God
1 Kings 17:4 And it shall be, [that] thou shalt drink of the brook, and I have commanded the ravens to feed thee there.
---francis on 3/9/13


Psalm 148:7-12
---willie_c: on 3/9/13


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Jed, I dunno, the praying Mantis perhaps???
Problem is she's been known to canibalize her mate after mating!
---1st_cliff on 3/8/13


"...Let everything that has breath praise the Lord." (Psalms 150:6, NIV)
---Leon on 3/8/13


No, animals are not created in the image of God. The image of God allows us to choose Him or to choose self. The choice we make is worship, we can worship idols or we can worship God, animals cannot choose.
---Scott1 on 3/8/13


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