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RFID For Health Care

Here's a new one folks. Any comments? It's being reported that the new Obama Health care has been passed and that the bill requires all Americans to be implanted with a Radio Frequency Identification(RFID) chip in order to get medical care. It will be placed in the forehead or arm.... Any thoughts?

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Jed:

You said: you do realize that Obama is not a king right? He is a president who was ELECTED by a bunch of low-information moron voters.


He was elected by the MAJORITY of voters in the U.S. Which means you think that THE MAJORITY of Americans are morons. This means you think you're better than MOST Americans.

Per Matthew 5:22, calling people "morons" (i.e. "thou fool") puts you in danger of hell fire. Very unwise.

He is not a king appointed by God.

Romans 13:1 says:
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.


Should we believe Paul, or Jed?
---StrongAxe on 3/27/13


Are you assumine that i wear drawers?

I am more of a banana hammock... kinda guy
---francis on 3/27/13


There's no need to use perverted terms on a Christian site Francis. We know you are a perverted liberal, but this is supposed to be a Christian community so let's keep it clean.
---Jed on 3/28/13


it isn't God's plan for Obama to be president. remember the old testament where God wanted a Godly man as king but the people wanted others. God would never want a muslim as president of the United States. as a whole, our country isn't a Christian nation anymore...Obama said that.the people don't make the laws, Washington does. God is not pleased about the going on's in Washington.
---shira4368 on 3/28/13


Even if he was elected by a 'bunch of low-information moron voters', that is still in god's plan, and we are STILL to obey authority, because God allowed him to be elected
---James on 3/27/13


That argument has been so overused and the fact is it will simply never fly. Because then you are saying that everyone should have likewise obeyed Adolph Hitler because God allowed him to ascend to power and it was obviously God's will for him to kill over 6 million jews, right? The part you are missing is that there are indeed terrible things that happen in the world (like Obama's entire presidency) that are not God's perfect will, because people have chosen sin over God.
---Jed on 3/27/13


francis, don't get your drawers in a wad.
---shira4368 on 3/27
Are you assumine that i wear drawers?

I am more of a banana hammock / commando kinda guy
---francis on 3/27/13




james, Obama wouldn't believe he isn't a king. I agree with Hannity, he thinks he is the anointed one. watch him give a speech and you will see how arrogant he is. plus he's never been in charge of anything and he is trying to run a great country and he can't even do that. no, he is far from a king.
---shira4368 on 3/27/13


francis, did you see the video where Obama visited his fathers grave? he made reference to his fathers faith and he said he would carry on the legacy. wow isn't that just hunky dorey?
---shira4368 on 3/27/13


"francis, don't get your drawers in a wad. I know obama isn't the anti-christ but he is anti-christ meaning he is not a christian. if he was, he wouldn't lie everytime he opens his mouth. he would waste jet fuel and secure hotels. plus all the other waste him and his beauty queen waste. at least she is finally proud of her country. wow, she got her "education" from the country she didn't like."
---shira4368 on 3/27/13


Are you okay Shira? You sound very disoriented. WOW!
---Leon on 3/27/13


"Francis, you do realize that Obama is not a king right? He is a president who was ELECTED by a bunch of low-information moron voters. He is not a king appointed by God."
---Jed on 3/26/13


In case you're wondering Francis, here's the interpretation: GRRRRR, ARF, ARF, ARF ARF, ARF... :)
---Leon on 3/27/13


I know obama isn't the anti-christ but he is anti-christ meaning he is not a christian.
---shira4368 on 3/27
You are a republican,( probabable an old republican) so black liberation theology within christainity is far from you
but try this
1 Corinthians 7:21 Art thou called [being] a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use [it] rather.

or this

I got shoes you got shoes all god's children got shoes
When I get to heaven gonna put on my shoes
I'm gonna walk all over god's heaven heaven
Everybody talkin' bout heaven ain't goin' there heaven heaven
---francis on 3/27/13




francis, don't get your drawers in a wad. I know obama isn't the anti-christ but he is anti-christ meaning he is not a christian. if he was, he wouldn't lie everytime he opens his mouth. he would waste jet fuel and secure hotels. plus all the other waste him and his beauty queen waste. at least she is finally proud of her country. wow, she got her "education" from the country she didn't like.
---shira4368 on 3/27/13


Jed://...ELECTED by a bunch of low-information moron voters// I believe you are a Christian, please mind your say or write about others because God can judge you based on that [Matthew 5:22]. I am sure you know that every one is made & sustained alive by God.
---Adetunji on 3/27/13


Jed: 'you do realize that Obama is not a king right?'

We are still supposed to obey authority.

Even if he was elected by a 'bunch of low-information moron voters', that is still in god's plan, and we are STILL to obey authority, because God allowed him to be elected
---James on 3/27/13


Francis, you do realize that Obama is not a king right? He is a president who was ELECTED by a bunch of low-information moron voters. He is not a king appointed by God.
---Jed on 3/26/13


stop getting bent out of shape about who the president is, every 4 to 8 years the president changes
God never chanses
Trust in God and not in man

Daniel 4:25 the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.

At this point in time it is God's will that barak obama rule this kingdom

So let it be

Ecclesiastes 10:20 Curse not the king, no not in thy thought,
---francis on 3/26/13


Jed:

Taxes are not passed by the president, but by CONGRESS, which is currently a REPUBLICAN congress. If you don't like how taxes work, whine to the Republicans.
---StrongAxe on 3/25/13


What are you talking about? I never even said anything about taxes.

BTW: The current congress is not a republican congress. Only the House of Representatives is republican. The Senate is democrat. So it's actually 1/2 republican and 1/2 democrat. So if I did "whine" about taxes (which I didn't) I would whine to both democrats and republicans. What an idiot!
---Jed on 3/25/13


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\\Jed:

Taxes are not passed by the president, but by CONGRESS, which is currently a REPUBLICAN congress. If you don't like how taxes work, whine to the Republicans.
---StrongAxe on 3/25/13\\

Actually, only the House has a Republican majority. The Senate has a Democratic majority.

However, according to the U. S. Constitution, all revenue raising bills MUST originate in the House.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/25/13


I always thought he was the anti-Christ anyway.
---shira4368 on 3/24/13

According to your church teaching, the antichrist is to sign a 7 year PEACE treaty with Israel.

Since the USA and Israel are allies, how do you see President Obama signing a 7 year peace treaty with Israel?
---francis on 3/25/13


Jed: 'You're missing everything.'

Perhaps you would be willing to enlighten me on how I can learn more about more about this

I am new to the US, and I know very little about the politics of this country

Could you help me?

You understand, I hope, that people who are new to a place often make silly mistakes!

Peter
---Peter on 3/26/13


Jed:

Taxes are not passed by the president, but by CONGRESS, which is currently a REPUBLICAN congress. If you don't like how taxes work, whine to the Republicans.
---StrongAxe on 3/25/13


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Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
---Trav on 3/24/13

Gee trav.. I though the same thing about people who voted republican...

---NurseRobert on 3/24/13

Well, you were a given. No further testimoney was necessary.
Psalm 62:9
Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.

In truth both Political party's will never measure.
An obomination, is still an obomination though and will be found as such.
---Trav on 3/25/13


You can not actually believe that Obama and Bush were the same. They are polar opposites.
---Jed on 3/25/13

president Obama has continued with many of the G W Bush policies, on taxes, national security, coorperate bailouts,
---francis on 3/25/13


My point is this: Obama and Bush fils did the same thing. If Obama is wrong, then Bush fils is wrong, too.

Your point is what, exactly?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/24/13


You can not actually believe that Obama and Bush were the same. They are polar opposites.
---Jed on 3/25/13


\\I believe Obama will do anything he pleases.\\

So did George Bush Jr.

\\ he is aiding the enemy when he sends muslim brotherhood f-16's.\\

George Bush Jr likewise sent weapons to the previous government of Egypt.

My point is this: Obama and Bush fils did the same thing. If Obama is wrong, then Bush fils is wrong, too.

Your point is what, exactly?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/24/13


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Am I missing something?

Sorry if I am!
---Peter on 3/23/13


You're missing everything.
---Jed on 3/24/13


Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
---Trav on 3/24/13

Gee trav.. I though the same thing about people who voted republican...
---NurseRobert on 3/24/13


My thought are that those who believe that are simple minded

Proverbs 14:15 The simple believeth every word:
---francis on 3/18/13

""Simply" Incredible justifications.

So you justifieth voting for an obomanation. Verse below applies to who voted/supported the poser. Research james cones doctrines if you would know how poser is indoc'd at his church.

Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
---Trav on 3/24/13


I always thought he was the anti-Christ anyway. I believe Obama will do anything he pleases. he is aiding the enemy when he sends muslim brotherhood f-16's. also billions in other aid and weapons. in world war 11, that was an offense to be harshly dealt with.my husband spent many years in the military so we could get health care and in the past month, my meds jumped fro 3.00 and 9.00 to 75.00. I have a problem with giving to the lazy. no wonder he got elected again. I am not talking to the disabled people. I watched a Mexican girl, her husband and 2yr old child pay 200.00 for food at walmart. she paid with a government card. I don't begrudge anyone of food but our system is overloaded with welfare and has doubled in the past 4 years.
---shira4368 on 3/24/13


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Jed: 'his support for radical Islam'

I often see this comment stated,but when I read the speeches of Obama, I do not see SUPPORT for radical Islam.

You can say that his actions will do less to DAMAGE radical Islam that what you would do, but that is not SUPPORT

Am I missing something?

Sorry if I am!
---Peter on 3/23/13


Jed:

You said: You have defended his countless attacks on people of Biblical faith and his support for radical Islam. You yourself have shown hostility toward conservative christians. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure, if you voted, you voted for Obama.

1) I have NEVER defended any attacks Obama may have made on people of faith
2) I have NEVER defended his support of Islam, radical or otherwise (other than to say that he's a Christian, and not a Muslim - which is not the same thing).
3) Hostility? At most, I point out that "conservative=good, liberal=evil" is biased (and that Jesus and his followers were more akin to liberals)
4) I did not vote for Obama (nor McCain either).
---StrongAxe on 3/23/13


StrongAxe, not referring to this specific thread in particular. But over years of conversations with you on this site, I know that you are an Obama supporter because you have proven by all your past arguments with me to be a low information democrat voter. You have argued for Obama's policies on here over and over again and came to his defense on several occasions since my first encounter with you. Even to the point of repeating outright lies told by Obama and his media. You have defended his countless attacks on people of Biblical faith and his support for radical Islam. You yourself have shown hostility toward conservative christians. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure, if you voted, you voted for Obama.
---Jed on 3/23/13


Shira, the law the president signed is the same law passed by both houses of congress. Tell us, what laws were "sneaked" into the bill he signed? The answer is: NONE. You cannot prove otherwise and all your whining doesn't change that fact.

Since most of the law will not even go into effect until 2014, you need to blame your insurance carrier and not the President.


Tell us, just how would YOU know what the antiChrist looks like?
---NurseRobert on 3/23/13


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One party supports opposes same gender marriage. YET within that party, among their candidates for office are men and woman who are same gender partners

One party seem to have the support of "evangelicals" yet that same party are anti immigration (strangers), they refuse to spend money to feed the poor( food stamps), shelter the homeless ( subsidized housing), care for the dying and sick ( medicaid and medicare)

One part is opposed to abortion, yet that same party refuses to fund programs like Women Infant Children to care for pregnant mothers and their children

None of them are righteous
I just choose the one who is able to help more people that need a hand up,
---francis on 3/23/13


Jed:

You said: However, if I were to support Obama, as you do

I don't ever recall saying "I support Obama" here. But you're welcome to try to prove me wrong.

Saying "you are treating someone unfairly" and "I support someone" are two entirely different things. I frequently make statements on these blogs of the former kind, rarely of the latter kind - because it's easy to show that someone else's logic is unreasonable, but not easy (nor relevant) to air my own subjective opinions.

that would dramatically affect my walk with God as I could no longer be a Christian.

And here I thought being a Christian had to do with one's faith in Christ, not anything else.
---StrongAxe on 3/23/13


the president does pass laws that the house and congress never see. many were sneaked in the health care bill. Pelosi said she hadn't even read the bill that she voted to pass. my health care is already doubled for me since the so-called health care bill was passed. I have tri care for life and my meds have tripled. people in Washington are just puppets and Obama is trying to be a dictator. he is the closest thing to a dictator I've ever seen. he is a smug liar and he resembles the anti Christ but I would like to think he is not the anti-Christ. he is arrogant and lies evertime he opens his mouth.
---shira4368 on 3/23/13


the thing is NONE of the laws passed by President Obama has affected his walk with God
---francis on 3/22/13


I never said that they did. However, if I were to support Obama, as you do, that would dramatically affect my walk with God as I could no longer be a Christian. There is nothing Obama can do to take away my faith, even if he were to have me put to death for being a Christian. Just as there is nothing that Satan can do to shake my faith, he can only try my faith. Nothing anyone else does can determine your spiritual state. But what you do DOES. And supporting and following evil doers, mockers, and blasphemers makes you one also, and a betrayer of Christ.
---Jed on 3/22/13


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francis:

The president cannot make laws. He can only choose whether or no laws passed by Congress require a 51% majority to pass (if he signs them), or a 67% majority (if he vetoes them).

If anyone doesn't like any of our country's laws, they should whine at Congress who actually drafts them, NOT at the president who merely rubber stamps them.

Comparisons to Caesar DO apply. Taxes paid to Caesar went to promoting idolatrous temples, supporting armies that conquered and enslaved other nations, etc. - EVEN SO, Jesus said to pay Caesar what is Caesar's.
---StrongAxe on 3/22/13


He did not say that he did not obey the laws signed by Obama

He obeys, he just does not care for care for Obama
---Peter on 3/21/13
laughable

If he pays taxes, collect any form of entitlement, drives any American made car, has a child in public school,
put American made oil or fuel in his car, buys any items shipped legally into USA from china, Has a cell phone, buys USDA inspected meat, uses any medications, he is abiding by some law signed by president Obama

the thing is NONE of the laws passed by President Obama has affected his walk with God
---francis on 3/22/13


Francis: Jed only said 'I don't follow or listen to Obama. If I were to listen to Obama and support Obama'

He did not say that he did not obey the laws signed by Obama

So the comments drawing similarities with Caesar are not quite analogous.......

He obeys, he just does not care for care for Obama

Personally, I don't mind him, though some of Obama's views are objectionable (but that goes for all politicians)
---Peter on 3/21/13


You stated that we should obey Obama. In order to do that you would have to disobey God, mock God, and blaspheme God. I don't participate in that like you do.
---Jed on 3/21/13

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme,

1 Peter 2:17 Honour all men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

Obey as long as it does not interfare with what God commands
---francis on 3/20/13

Notice how i said as long as it does interfare with God's commandments

all in all, I think you are a good egg, little misguided but I like you
---francis on 3/21/13


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I don't follow or listen to Obama. If I were to listen to Obama and support Obama then I couldn't be a Christian.
---Jed on 3/21/13

That is not true, because your taxes have changed thanks to President Obama,

If you have children in public school, their lunch menus are changing, thanks to Obama

It seem that soon you will not receive any mail on Saturday if this is signed by The president

So while there are many many bills signed by the president, not ONE affects our relationship with God
---francis on 3/21/13


Jed:

You said: If I were to listen to Obama and support Obama then I couldn't be a Christian. You stated that we should obey Obama.

Barack Obama is the elected chief executive - i.e. appointed by God (Romans 13:1). Jesus said "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". Caesar actually DID command idolatry, etc.

In order to do that you would have to disobey God, mock God, and blaspheme God.

When has Obama COMMANDED anyone to do any of those 3 things?

I don't participate in that like you do.

Please quote EXACTLY how francis mocked and blasphemed God. Otherwise, you bear false witness. The penalty for that was the same as for the accused crime (i.e. as if YOU YOURSELF blasphemed).
---StrongAxe on 3/21/13


\\Can you tell me ONE single thing which he has done that changed your relationship with God in any way, or has shaken your faith in God?
---francis on 3/21/13

Absolutely not. Because I don't follow or listen to Obama\\

So why did you say this, Jed?

** Almost EVERYTHING Obama does is in direct opposition to God's word!
---Jed on 3/20/13**

If you pay no attention to Obama, then you have NO way of knowing whether he does anything against God's word.

Make up your mind.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/21/13


Can you tell me ONE single thing which he has done that changed your relationship with God in any way, or has shaken your faith in God?
---francis on 3/21/13


Absolutely not. Because I don't follow or listen to Obama. If I were to listen to Obama and support Obama then I couldn't be a Christian. You stated that we should obey Obama. In order to do that you would have to disobey God, mock God, and blaspheme God. I don't participate in that like you do.
---Jed on 3/21/13


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\\The fact that it was mentioned in the bill draft is a trigger for Christians to sensitize people more & shout it to the roof(sky scrapper) tops.
---Adetunji on 3/21/13\\

Consider the stories of the boy who cried, "Wolf!" and Chicken Little.

Actually, these false warnings will only DEsensitize people more and more until the REAL MoB is instituted.

Very subtle trick of Satan, no?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/21/13


Wow, are you ignorant! Almost EVERYTHING Obama does is in direct opposition to God's word!
---Jed on 3/20/13
Nothing that president Obama has done has stopped me from worshiping God in the manner whcih I did before he took office. My faith in God is stronger today that it was when I first believed.

Can you tell me ONE single thing which he has done that changed your relationship with God in any way, or has shaken your faith in God?
---francis on 3/21/13


\\Wow, are you ignorant! Almost EVERYTHING Obama does is in direct opposition to God's word!
---Jed on 3/20/13\\

Jed, can you give a specific example of what Obama has said or done that has caused francis to be at odds with God's word?

THAT is the statement that francis has made.

To put the question another way, how has Obama affected francis's faith adversely? Can you tell us?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/21/13


/srongAxe://the main reason why many Christians get hysterical about this and similar issues is because of the whole "Mark of the Beast" thing, and this doesn't even come close.// I beg to disagree with you. The fact that it was mentioned in the bill draft is a trigger for Christians to sensitize people more & shout it to the roof(sky scrapper) tops.
---Adetunji on 3/21/13


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StrongAxe: Francis said Obama has done nothing against God. That is what I was responding to (which is why I quoted that in my post). If you think Obama has done nothing against God then you are as ignorant as Francis. Which makes it even more ironic that you called me ignorant for calling Francis ignorant. I read the scriptures he posted about obeying the king. Those scriptures in no way command unconditional obedience to evil, baby-killing, God-hating dictators. I do not place obedience to the president over obedience to God. And Obama is not a King appointed by God, he is a president who was ELECTED by a bunch of other baby-killing, God-hating morons, such as Francis and yourself.
---Jed on 3/21/13


Jed:

francis said: Thus far nothing President Obama has done has caused me to be at odds with God's word

You said: Wow, are you ignorant! Almost EVERYTHING Obama does is in direct opposition to God's word!

What Obama does has nothing to do with francis's faith, or anyone else's. Nero's evil didn't break early Christians' faith?

You are so gung-ho about insulting francis no matter what, that you didn't really pay attention to what he ACTUALLY said.

Being willfully ignorant (i.e. misinterpreting words directly in front of your face), while simultaneously calling someone ignorant, is the pot calling the kettle black. Again, are you capable of rational discussion without personal insults?
---StrongAxe on 3/20/13


Thus far nothing President Obama has done has caused me to be at odds with God's word
---francis on 3/20/13


Wow, are you ignorant! Almost EVERYTHING Obama does is in direct opposition to God's word!
---Jed on 3/20/13


Revelation 13 says that the Mark of the Beast has to do with buying and selling, and it is world wide. It has nothing to do with health care, nor is it simply in the USA.

Get the facts straight, people.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/20/13


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Adetunji:

Sorry for the typo. I didn't intend to misspell your name.


Jed:

You said: I'm sure for you liberals your obedient "bah" as you're led away demonstrates your unconditional obedience to Obama just fine.

Odd, that comment had nothing whatsoever to do with francis's comment about tradition. It WAS a typical ad-hominem attack whose sole purpose was to attack one's character without actually addressing any facts being discussed. Are you capable of rational discussion without name-calling? Inquiring people want to know!
---StrongAxe on 3/20/13


I'm sure for you liberals your obedient "bah" as you're led away demonstrates your unconditional obedience to Obama just fine.
---Jed on 3/20/13
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme,

1 Peter 2:17 Honour all men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

Obey as long as it does not interfare with what God commands

Thus far nothing President Obama has done has caused me to be at odds with God's word
---francis on 3/20/13


When the Mark of the Beast is given it won't be just for Health Care. The Mark will affect every part of a person's life,not just one thing. It will be something we can choose or reject. God's people must be in a position to take the Mark and loose God or reject it and serve God. We can't be taken in without knowing we're lost if we choose the Mark,it won't happen by accident or undercover.
---Darlene_1 on 3/20/13


Tradition is that women lift their skirts an inch when they genuflex, gentlemen remove their hats, or am I wrong about that?
---francis on 3/19/13


I'm sure for you liberals your obedient "bah" as you're led away demonstrates your unconditional obedience to Obama just fine.
---Jed on 3/20/13


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\\To all those who claim the RFID issue is false, have you bought a copy of the US Health Care Law that Obama signed?\\

The various rumors about RFID chips are based in draft versions of the bill, and NOT that was actually passed and signed into law.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/20/13


Bowing might to taking it a little to far to the right.
Maybe a slight genuflection, and lift the end of your skirt when you do it
---francis on 3/19/13

Somehow I don't think your joking one bit about that.
---Jed on 3/19/13

Tradition is that women lift their skirts an inch when they genuflex, gentlemen remove their hats, or am I wrong about that?
---francis on 3/19/13

There is a certain amount of respect to to President Obama, that he gets only from Christians.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme,

1 Peter 2:17 Honour all men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
---francis on 3/20/13


Jed:

If you had a pacemaker, wouldn't you want its serial number to be on record, in case of device recall, or some other similar issue, so it could be properly replaced or serviced before it failed?


Adetinji:

To all those who claim the RFID issue is TRUE, have you bought a copy of the US Health Care Law that Obama signed? Otherwise, it's just idle speculation (bringing accusations without proof) and gossip - both things the Bible condemns in multiple places.


In any case, the main reason why many Christians get hysterical about this and similar issues is because of the whole "Mark of the Beast" thing, and this doesn't even come close.
---StrongAxe on 3/20/13


To all those who claim the RFID issue is false, have you bought a copy of the US Health Care Law that Obama signed? Some US gov. websites that I have checked do not have the full copy of this Law for free perusal (only analysis of it which are not detailed).
---Adetunji on 3/20/13


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owing might to taking it a little to far to the right.
Maybe a slight genuflection, and lift the end of your skirt when you do it
---francis on 3/19/13

Somehow I don't think your joking one bit about that.
---Jed on 3/19/13

Tradition is that women lift their skirts an inch when they genuflex, gentlemen remove their hats, or am I wrong about that?
---francis on 3/19/13


Bowing might to taking it a little to far to the right.
Maybe a slight genuflection, and lift the end of your skirt when you do it
---francis on 3/19/13


Somehow I don't think your joking one bit about that.
---Jed on 3/19/13


Yes, as Francis points out, anyone who believes anything bad about Obama and doesn't bow down and worship him is simple minded, in addition to being an evil, racist, homophobic, religious bigot.
---Jed on 3/18/13

Bowing might to taking it a little to far to the right.
Maybe a slight genuflection, and lift the end of your skirt when you do it
---francis on 3/19/13


Strongeaxe,


It further helps by tracking bad devices, so if a fault is found patients can be notified and the bad units can be replaced, hopefully at the maker's expense, before someone is injured or dies.

I don't know where peopple get these weird paranoid ideas.
---atheist on 3/19/13


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That is, if you have a pacemaker, it would require all pacemakers to have serial numbers that could be tracked (so, if you had a faulty one, they could ensure that it was not a used black market one resold by a shady vendor). It had NOTHING to do with forcing implants on anyone.
---StrongAxe on 3/19/13


Unless of course you need a pacemaker or other type of tracked implant, right?
---Jed on 3/19/13


My cats have had theirs implanted but I've been unable to find out where to get mine.
---Love.wins on 3/18/13


This is a rumor that has been debunked on another blog. The provision that was ACTUALLY in the bill (and which never even got passed into law anyway) was for inventorying of EXISTING implanted devices.

That is, if you have a pacemaker, it would require all pacemakers to have serial numbers that could be tracked (so, if you had a faulty one, they could ensure that it was not a used black market one resold by a shady vendor). It had NOTHING to do with forcing implants on anyone.
---StrongAxe on 3/19/13


Yes, as Francis points out, anyone who believes anything bad about Obama and doesn't bow down and worship him is simple minded, in addition to being an evil, racist, homophobic, religious bigot.
---Jed on 3/18/13


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No, it's not new. It's old, and has been circulating for years.

Reba, this urban legend has already been discussed in the last few weeks.

One version of this had people obliged to get these RIFD by 26 March.

This rumor, in whatever form, TOTALLY false.

SOME implants, such as artificial joints or pacemakers have had such chips on them BEFORE Obama care to help locate defective units AND to prevent a black market on re-implanting second hand defective devices.

The first messages from heaven as recorded in the Holy Gospels all say, "Fear not"

Reba, you and your friends take these words to heart.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/18/13


Implanting a device on one's person against their will is "assault" it won't happen!
---1st_cliff on 3/18/13


Any thoughts?
---Reba on 3/18/13
My thought are that those who believe that are simple minded

Proverbs 14:15 The simple believeth every word:
---francis on 3/18/13


Who reported this?

Has anyone actually read the law that says this, or is this some kind of people who are just paranoid and should just be quiet for everyone's good?

Anyone read the law?

Anyone?
---Peter on 3/18/13


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Sorry...Reba...not Rita
---KarenD on 3/18/13


Would not the use of the RFID really put many who do record keeping out of work as well as being a invasion of privacy?
---e.lee7537 on 3/18/13


Rita...Why spread rumors????
---KarenD on 3/18/13


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