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Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

But ye have despised the poor.
Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well!

But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
---TheSeg on 4/15/13


Deut 6:5 thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul,

1 John 5:3 this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,to bow down to
Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain,
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother:
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Exodus 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness
Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
---francis on 4/14/13


The fulfillment of the law!

Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets!
Everything you wrote and more are hung on these two commandments!
And still, not me francis! Our Lord and savior found it necessary!

To say:
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another, as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Just so you would know.
You cannot do the first and great commandment!
Without doing the second commandment!
Peace!
---TheSeg on 4/14/13


1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,to bow down to
Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain,
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother:
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Exodus 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness
Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet

Some make graven images of Jesus, and bow to it. and more find keeping the sabbath to be grievous.
---francis on 4/14/13


---TheSeg
LOVE THE LORD:
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,to bow down to
Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain,
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother:
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Exodus 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness
Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet

---e.lee7537
Isaiah 56:3 Neither let the.. stranger, say The LORD hath separated me from his people..every one that keepeth the sabbath
---francis on 4/13/13




francis
You really don't believe that love, is the fulfillment of the law!
How can me loving you, not as myself, but putting you before myself.
Fulfill the royal law, I could go on and on about this!

If you, well not just you, but all of you!
If you guys, would just stop for a moment and try to understand.
How it is that only your love for each other can fulfill the law.

But, that would be like trying to explain God to you.
In your life at some point, you must have felt it, God's love!

What's funny is you tell your kids not to play with matches.
And you come home and your house is gone!
Still, you don't get it!
Peace
---TheSeg on 4/12/13


//Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

I notice that Francis always quotes some verse out of context to support his presupposition.

He has always been careful NOT to quote the preceding verse -

I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. Exodus 20:2

I keep asking both Jerry and Francis which of them did the mud and which did the straw in building them thar bricks while they were in Egypt.

I guess they really believe that contrary to the decision of the Jerusalem council Acts 15 that believers must convert to Judaism and obey cherry picked laws of Judaism to be legitimate.
---e.lee7537 on 4/12/13


Yes francis I know, But you dont get it!
That because it must be given.

You're just like the scribes and the Pharisees sitting in Moses' seat!
All that they tell you that observe and do.
But don't you do after their works, for they say and do not.

Because you can't understand how the law is fulfilled!
That it's the love you have for each other, which fulfilled the law!
You don't believe love is the fulfillment of the law.

Therefore you have not fulfilled the law!
But, you don't get that!

You sit in the seat and say I am fulfilling the law.
But if you don't love anyone but yourself, how are you fulfilling the law.
There just words francis!
Your words!
---TheSeg on 4/12/13


TheSeg
Try using more than one text!
To what "end," francis?
---TheSeg on 4/12/13
Until you get a grasp on the doctrine

Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? [them that are] weaned from the milk, [and] drawn from the breasts.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept [must be] upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, [and] there a little:

Not just one text, but many, here a little, there a little
---francis on 4/12/13


Dude you keep the seventh day Sabbath.
---TheSeg on 4/12/13
That is what our Lord commanded

Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Exodus 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Exodus 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Do you have an amendment to the FOURTH COMMANDMENT?
---francis on 4/12/13




TheSeg
Try using more than one text!
To what "end," francis?

I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty,
only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Gods Peace!
---TheSeg on 4/12/13


---TheSeg on 4/12/13
try using more than one text

Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Exodus 20:11 wherefore the LORD BLESSED the sabbath day, and HALLOWED

Deuteronomy 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.

Ezekiel 46:3 Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons.

Mark 2:27 The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, [that] from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
---francis on 4/12/13


Dude you keep the seventh day Sabbath.
Not in one day!

But by fulfilling the royal law!
Jas_2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

You keep telling everyone it's in a day, 52 days a year.
God keeps telling everyone it's in your life, every single day you live!
In the love you have for one another and not in the letter of the law.

But you just don't want to understand that!
You have hardened your heart!

You just want to say "I keep the law!"
I'm sorry but I am laughing at you.
But only because, I know you don't!
Try washing your eyes that you may see.
Peace
---TheSeg on 4/12/13


Hebrews 3:7 -11 Therefore I was provoked with that generation, and said, They always go astray in their heart, they have not known my ways. As I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter my rest.

Ezekiel 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness:.. and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Ezekiel 20:15 Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them,

Hebrews 4 calls us to keep the sabbath and not be as Israel in the wilderness. Only two rests are mention, 7th day sabbath and cannan, which can we enter today?
---francis on 4/12/13


Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed.

Why should you rest? Because, you have to go back to work!
Six more days, then you rest one day again. Over and over again!
Where have you ceased from your own works? Clearly you haven't!

For he that is entered into (his rest), he also hath (ceased from his own works), (as God did from his.)

As far as his laws go, his words, not mine!
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Now, I know you don't like it, but!
Rom_13:8, is clear!
Peace
---TheSeg on 4/12/13


---e.lee7537 on 4/11/13
Exodus 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Revelation 14:7 worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters


Here is what your pagan worship has done:
Romans 1:25 changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (THE SUN: from where you get Sunday worship)more than the Creator (from where we get the Sabbath) , who is blessed for ever. Amen.
---francis on 4/11/13


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Francis // WHy is gOD elevating THE sabbath?

The Sabbath was the SIGN of the old Covenant God made ONLY with Israel. Exodus 31:13,17.

//is not the creator, our creator also our redeemer?

As to God being our creator, the only creation that we need be concerned about is expressed in the following:

2Co 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away, behold, the new has come.
Ga 6:15 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.

You may not know this but the law promoting Sabbath keeping Pharisees were the chief enemies of our Lord, why do you wish to identify with them. Do you pseudo Jews. really hate Christians that much?
---e.lee7537 on 4/11/13


Well lee the New Covenant was promised to Israel. Gentiles are added to the New Covenant.
So since we are joi9ned into Israel......
---Samuelbb7 on 4/11/13

Well, this is taught but, is not true by the missing testimony of the prophets. All prophecy must be fulfilled correct? The scriptures you give are speaking of the, put away Gentile=Ethnos of Israel. Not Judah, Israel. Ethnos was the original word, Helen, also. Not gentile...which is a latin word. Informing by it's origin and of suspect intent.
Did Christ lie?Matt 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Heb 8:10
For this is the covenant........, I will put my laws .....
---Trav on 4/11/13


Well lee the New Covenant was promised to Israel. Gentiles are added to the New Covenant. Read Hebrews and Ephesians also Galations. We are children of Abraham.

So since we are joi9ned into Israel should we not obey our scriptures like Paul says in 2 tim.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/11/13


Yes, indeed Israel failed to observe many of the laws God gave to them.
---e.lee7537 on 4/11/13

Not only did they fail to observe many of the laws but:
Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. But my sabbaths they greatly polluted: Is it the very same Lord that Sanctifies us today?

The same Lord who created everything in six days and rested the 7th says MORE THAN THAT, I gave them my sabbath. WHy is gOD elevating THE sabbath?

is not the creator, our creator also our redeemer?

Don't know about you, but SDA have thE SAME creator for thier redeemer. THAT IS WHY WE KEEP SABBATH
---francis on 4/11/13


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Francis //Ezekiel 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which [if] a man do, he shall even live in them, and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Yes, indeed Israel failed to observe many of the laws God gave to them. So what happened is that God made a new covenant with Israel that included all believers from all Gentile nations. And guess what? There was no Sabbath law in the New Covenant.
---e.lee7537 on 4/11/13


Hebrews 3:7 -11 Therefore I was provoked with that generation, and said, They always go astray in their heart, they have not known my ways. As I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter my rest.
---e.lee7537 on 4/10/13
Ezekiel 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which [if] a man do, he shall even live in them, and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Ezekiel 20:15 Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given [them], flowing with milk and honey, which [is] the glory of all lands,
---francis on 4/11/13


Heb_4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

"How did God cease from his own work?"

Hebrews 4:4 And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

TWO rest here:
1: rest to Israel when the entered the land
2: the 7th day sabbath

Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

OT match:

Ezekiel 20:13 Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness:...and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them
---francis on 4/10/13


Francis ignores the scripture that speaks of Israel did not enter into His rest through they observed the Sabbath day.

Hebrews 3:7 -11 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day of testing in the wilderness, where your fathers put me to the test and saw my works for forty years. Therefore I was provoked with that generation, and said, They always go astray in their heart, they have not known my ways. As I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter my rest.

It is those who have come to believe in Christ that enter Gods rest, not those who observe the Sabbath. (4:3)
---e.lee7537 on 4/10/13


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---shira4368 on 4/10/13


The Lord's rest is just that, the Lord's rest!
For as it is said:
Heb_4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

If you are not at rest, have you entered into his rest?
As you must believe there is yet nothing left undone!

Now, I am not telling you to cease from your own works and labor!
Work away, labor!
But:
Heb_4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

After all how could it be finished, if someone is left in unbelief?
Surely this can't be by his hand.
Rom_11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief...
Peace
---TheSeg on 4/10/13


Hebrews 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

Now cna anyone show me where Joshua spoke of another day as the sabbath day?

Joshua 14:15 And the land had rest from war.

Joshua 23:1 And it came to pass a long time after that the LORD had given rest unto Israel from all their enemies round about, that Joshua waxed old and stricken in age.

Joshua 22:4 And now the LORD your God hath given rest unto your brethren, as he promised them:

Joshua 21:44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers:

I see many text where they God rest under Joshua, NOT ONE speaks of another day that would be the sabbath day
---francis on 4/10/13


francis,
There yo go again spouting off Isa 66 out of context and grammatically incorrect according to your mistranslation.
When will you listen?
---micha9344 on 4/10/13


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It seems some want you to believe the Saturday Sabbath is the day of rest!
---TheSeg on 4/10/13
What does God say in his word:

Genesis 2:2 on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Exodus 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

Exodus 20:11 and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Luke 23:56 and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Hebrews 4:4 God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

Isaiah 66:22 (IN) the new earth,... from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD
---francis on 4/10/13


Daniel 7:23 the fourth kingdom (ROME).. shall.. think to change times and laws:

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

So any attempt to change God's sabbath comes from the beast (ROME) and not from the bible. That is IF you choose to believe in the bible

Isaiah 66:22 the new earth,.. from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD

reassurance that God will never change his sabbath day
---francis on 4/10/13


The Sabbath was given to man as a day of rest!
The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
The Lord is lord of everything!

It seems some want you to believe the Saturday Sabbath is the day of rest!
But remember!

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Clearly this is not the same day!
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Some must believe keeping the Saturday Sabbath is entering in to his rest.
But then people really believe all kinds of things these days!

I'm just saying maybe it's because of their freewill.
Maybe they believe their freewill and the Father's will are the same?
Peace
---TheSeg on 4/10/13


Sorry Francis but neither Hebrews 4:1 nor 4:11 even speak of Sabbath observance.

However if you were to view
Hebrews 4:3 you would read that those who believe in Christ are the ones that have entered God's rest as typified by the 7th day of Creation.

You as an Adventist, really have no good argument for observance of the OT Sabbath as such is not part of the New Covenant God made with Israel that included Gentile believers.

Ever read Acts 15? There is nothing there that even hints Gentile believers need observe the Sabbath.

Why don't you just admit to the facts and quit trying to promote the false gospel of the OT Jewish Sabbath as you will not be able to win against the truth.
---e.lee7537 on 4/9/13


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Accordingly ONLY to the Word of Man as you cannot find a single verse in the Bible that commands the church to observe the Jewish Sabbath.
---e.lee7537 on 4/9/13

Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
---francis on 4/9/13


Frances,

Spot on... many are callled few are chosen
Peace
---Carla on 4/9/13


Francis //In other words, e.lee7537 you can talk about history, but as soon as you look into the BIBLE, SDA are correct in their teaching of the Sabbath.

Accordingly ONLY to the Word of Man as you cannot find a single verse in the Bible that commands the church to observe the Jewish Sabbath.

Truly if the church was to observe the OT Sabbath we would see something of it in the Epistles as well as taught in the early church, many of whose leaders were direct successors of the Apostles.

Sorry but you cannot convince anyone either from a Biblical or from a historical standpoint. All you have been doing was to grasp as straws as you really have no good argument.
---e.lee7537 on 4/9/13


In this matter the Seventh-day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.'' The Catholic Universe Bulletin, August 14, 1942, p. 4.

so soon as we appeal to the litera scripta of the Bible, the Sabbatarians have the best of the argument." The Christian at Work, April 19, 1883, and Jan. 1884

In other words, e.lee7537 you can talk about history, but as soon as you look into the BIBLE, SDA are correct in their teaching of the Sabbath.

Which means that all other, are teachings are unbiblical teaching

For those who are not catholic or prespytarian, know for sure that on the sabbath issue, you are not being taught what the bible teaches, you are taught what you believe, so you do not leave the false teaching
---francis on 4/9/13


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---micha9344 on 4/8/13
OK, The resurrection occured 3 days after passover, and should be celebrated as such. Many bible feast are celebrate as X munber of days after Y

---e.lee7537 on 4/7/13
In your weak defense of the RCC you missed something that the RCC and presbyterians did not miss:

In this matter the Seventh-day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.'' The Catholic Universe Bulletin, August 14, 1942, p. 4.

so soon as we appeal to the litera scripta of the Bible, the Sabbatarians have the best of the argument." The Christian at Work, April 19, 1883, and Jan. 1884
---francis on 4/8/13


francis, the Passover is when the Lamb was slain. This truly was on the 14th of the month following the sign of Spring.
Consequently, the Resurrection happened afterward. It is celebrated the next Sunday just as Christ arose from the grave.
It is celebrated on the same day of the week as the Resurrection.
Also, did you notice "of Alexandria", not Rome. RCC and Othordox hadn't even broken at this time.
Your argument fails because your 19th century false prophetess was wrong.
---micha9344 on 4/8/13


Sun worship predates Rome


Jeremiah 8:2 .. the sun, and the moon,... whom they have worshipped:

Ezekiel 8:16 ... and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
---francis on 4/7/13


Francis//The [Roman Catholic] Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her founder, Jesus Christ.

Yes it is true they state that, however, if anyone would read further into this issue, it would be seen that they claim the Roman Catholic church did just that during the time of the Apostles as they believe everyone in the church during the Apostolic times was Roman Catholics.

So the uninformed and gullible person that swallows that rot may fall into the pit of Adventism.

This is one of the traps Adventism uses to recruit people into their cult.
---e.lee7537 on 4/7/13


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//Some have tried to build the observance of Sunday upon Apostolic command, whereas the Apostles gave no command on the matter at all....

I think that the Apostles did not give command to observe the Lord's day, however, they did establish that tradition for communal worship on Sundays.

2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.

The reason they did not give command to observe Sunday as the Sabbath was out of respect for other convictions especially those of Jewish Christians who continued in the Mosaic traditions.

There is nothing in the Bible that commands the church to observe any day of the week.
---e.lee7537 on 4/7/13


''The [Roman Catholic] Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday. In this matter the Seventh-day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.'' The Catholic Universe Bulletin, August 14, 1942, p. 4.

"Some have tried to build the observance of Sunday upon Apostolic command, whereas the Apostles gave no command on the matter at all.... The truth is, so soon as we appeal to the litera scripta [literal writing] of the Bible, the Sabbatarians have the best of the argument." The Christian at Work, April 19, 1883, and Jan. 1884
---francis on 4/7/13


//And to make matter still worst, Adventist still reap a harvest among those ignorant of church history and of the Bible.

What is fortunate is that many who have fallen into the Adventist traps, simply leave sometimes during the first 5 years - and that according to their own statistics.

What is unfortunate is that those who leave Adventism, no longer go to any church, largely because of the terrible experience they had with Adventism.
---e.lee7537 on 4/7/13


//BTW, Sunday was NEVER a weekly worship day among Roman pagans. In fact, they never had one.

But Adventists believe Ellen White who contended that the Roman pagans worshipped only on the day of the sun - Sunday.

Of course, the point there was to take advantage of the religious prejudice among non catholics who in general were ignorant of church history or the culture of early Christianity.

And to make matter still worst, Adventist still reap a harvest among those ignorant of church history and of the Bible.
---e.lee7537 on 4/7/13


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The preferred Orthodox Christian name for the Resurrection of Christ is PASCHA in all languages, including English.

FWIW, most European languages use Pascha or a phonetic equivalent (eg, Pascua in Spanish), and NOT "Easter".

Pascha is clearly a metathesis of the Hebrew Pesach.

BTW, Sunday was NEVER a weekly worship day among Roman pagans. In fact, they never had one.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/6/13


---LindaH on 4/6/13

I understood your point very well.
If people want to celebrate Easter go ahead and do so.
But do not try to tie it in with the passover.

I think it would be best to use the biblical way which is given to celebrate the Lord's death and resurrection.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God,
---francis on 4/6/13


The Council of Nice, in settling the laws for the observance of the Feast of the Resurrection...\-Clemente of Alexandria (150-215AD)
---micha9344 on 4/5/13
Very well posted micha9344. And their date was 1st Sunday, after 1st full moon in spring

Now God set the date for Passover: the 14th day after the first New Moon in Spring:
Leviticus 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.


Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast( ROME) shall... think to change times and laws:
---francis on 4/5/13


Francis, you just totally missed the point didn't you? Yes I already knew all that. The point was are we NOW going to STOP worshiping the one true God on any day that was once or still is a pagan holiday?

I mean is HE our God 365 days a year or ONLY on the days that other gods are not worshiped on?

This nitpicking causes division in the body of Christ. That's all it does.
---LindaH on 4/6/13


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---LindaH on 4/5/13
Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first FULL MOON in the spring. It comes from the Anglo-Saxon goddess Eastre, which is the European version of The biblical queen of heaven. British Commonwealth celebrates Easter with hot cross buns: Jeremiah 7:18 the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven

Leviticus 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

Deuteronomy 12:30 enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.

I hope that you understand that Easter and Psssover are not the same.
---francis on 4/5/13


Indeed it seems we cannot worship the one true God on a day when any other god is celebrated. Only those days left over can we celebrate the Creator of all things. Do you honestly think the LORD will take second place to a pagan god and suspend his own worship because its their day.

Utter nonsense, Francis!
Discernment. Its needed.
---LindaH on 4/5/13


\But it deserves note, that, because of the learning concentrated in this place, the bishops of Alexandria were, from the beginning, the great authorities as to the Easter cycle and the annual computation of Easter, which new created the science of astronomy as one result. The Council of Nice, in settling the laws for the observance of the Feast of the Resurrection...\-Clemente of Alexandria (150-215AD)
---micha9344 on 4/5/13


Easter is a biblical term and simply represents the time of the Passover.
---trey on 4/5/13
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Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first FULL MOON in the spring. It comes from the Anglo-Saxon goddess Eastre, which is the European version of The biblical queen of heaven. Which is why today is British Commonwealth Easter is celebrated with hot cross buns: Jeremiah 7:18 the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven

Leviticus 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover. ( 14 days after the first NEW MOON in spring)

It bothers me because while I have no problems with people choosing to be pagan, I have problems with deception
---francis on 4/5/13


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---e.lee7537 on 4/4/13
Are you really going to stand, sit, or lie there are stand up for easter as biblical and christian, and in the same vain speech say that the sabbath which points to Jesus Christ as creater, Lord and Saviour is not?
---francis on 4/5/13


The SDA believe Easter to be a "pagan" holiday.

Ac12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him, intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

Easter is a biblical term and simply represents the time of the Passover.

Remember this phrase:
Ex12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

This is a shadow of the work of Christ!
---trey on 4/5/13


---e.lee7537 on 4/4/13

Galatians 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which BY NATURE ARE NO gods.

Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how YE TURN AGAIN to the weak and BEGGARDLY ELEMENTS, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

Galatians 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

They were going back to thier old ways of worship what was not god, the BEGGARDLY ELEMENTS, you know the moon, the queen of heaven EASTER , Lent, and those pagan feast to the sun, moon and you know BEGGARDLY ELEMENTS

2 Peter 3:10 and the elements shall melt with fervent heat,
How do you melt the sabbath?
---francis on 4/4/13


To extend on scripture you quoted.

Galatians 4:10 Ye observe days ( Old Covenant Sabbath), and months, and times, and years.

Galatians 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain as you begin with the Spirit but are now trying to be righteous by works of the flesh (3:3)

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of a woman who knew little about the Scripture nor its Author.

Easter is as vain as it get they put aside the sabbath of God for thier own pagan feast. = a belief held by other pseudo Christian religion such as Adventism and Jehovahs Witnesses, both hate the fact that Jesus conquered death and provided for us hope of our resurrection.
---e.lee7537 on 4/4/13


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But you as a SDA do nothing on Easter Sunday and that is the point I am making.
---e.lee7537 on 3/31/13

Galatians 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

Galatians 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.

Easter is as vain as it get
they put aside the sabbath of God for thier own pagan feast
---francis on 4/4/13


//Either you forgot to add " April fool" to that, or God forgot to tell us he wrote that as a law anywhere,

Yes, and we may also say that April fool's day could be in honor of those like yourself who believe they can observe all the laws of God and thus merit heaven.

Foolish modern day Galatians, who has bewitched you? ... Are you so foolish that you now trying to attain your goal of becoming righteous by human effort?
---e.lee7537 on 4/2/13


What God wrote onto believers hearts is to gather together for worship with His church, and that is done on the Lord's Day - Sunday.
---e.lee7537 on 4/1/13

Either you forgot to add " April fool" to that, or God forgot to tell us he wrote that as a law anywhere,

Since god does not forget, I will add on your behalf " BELATED APRIL FOOL
---francis on 4/2/13


Alleluia, Christ is risen.
Easter is so big, that RCC prolonged the day of Easter into a octave. 8days as one day. Monday Easter, Tuesday Easter, Wednesday Easter until the Sunday after the first Easter is Mercy Sunday.
Rich tradition. Christmas as well is celebrated for 8 day.
---Nikki on 4/2/13


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Samuelbb7 //Read the writings of John Wesley and you will see many of his words and points are the exact same as the SDA church has always taught.

You will NOT find a single quote by Wesley in support of observing the Jewish Sabbath, anything about Christians having to observe the Levitical dietary laws, nothing about 1844, nor will you find anything of the damnable SDA Investigative Judgment theory.

I think what you will find in Wesley is the gospel message that our salvation is in Jesus not in the good works that result from our salvation. Adventism teaches that grace is simply a provision that enables one to observe the law and thus merit salvation.
---e.lee7537 on 4/1/13


Yes I had a good RESURRECTION Sunday. Easter is for the bunnies separate from Jesus, however it was a good day,but I celebrate him daily
---womandisciple on 4/1/13


Francis - //What does God command we do on Easter or on any Sunday for that matter?

God does not command of His church how we observe any religious holiday including the Sabbath.

Part of your problem is that the SDA do not observe the Jewish Sabbath the way it was originally observed. You merely think that if you go to church on Saturdays and honk your horn on the Sabbath, you fulfill the Sabbath commandment.

And you have yet to come up with anything in the New Testament that commands the observance of any day.

What God wrote onto believers hearts is to gather together for worship with His church, and that is done on the Lord's Day - Sunday.
---e.lee7537 on 4/1/13


The Seventh day Adventist church adovcated then and now the same Gospel of Savation by Grace alone. But that works are the result of being saved. Read the writings of John Wesley and you will see many of his words and points are the exact same as the SDA church has always taught.

Calvanist also teach that Christians do works because they are saved. Ever read any of Spurgeon on this topic. I get a daily message of his writings which I fully enjoy.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/1/13


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We can use Easter for celebrating the resurrection of Jesus, or for arguing and trying to make our own imperfect way look superior.

But our own effort and devotion and discipline and works can not do what the resurrection power of Jesus in us can do.

Jesus in the grave was not stopped by death or all that suffering and hatred that were against Him. Like this, in the resurrection power of His peace and love, we can easily overcome death and all this world's evil > "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." (Romans 12:21)

So, happy resurrection day, every day (c:
---willie_c: on 4/1/13


But you as a SDA do nothing on Easter Sunday and that is the point I am making.
---e.lee7537 on 3/31/13
What does God command we do on Easter or on any sunday for that matter?

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee, and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.

Deuteronomy 12:31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God:

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from
---francis on 4/1/13


//Shows how little you know about SDA and the word of God. SDA do celebrate the risen Lord:

But you as a SDA do nothing on Easter Sunday and that is the point I am making.

As for knowledge of Adventism, a movement that came out of the radical religious movement of the early 1800's, I can easily see they advocated another Jesus and a different gospel.

2Co 11:4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.
---e.lee7537 on 3/31/13


So to those on here who follow the Pope's Easter and not Pascha, Christ is risen.
---Cluny on 3/31/13

Truly, He is risen! Alleluia!
---Nikki on 3/31/13


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Cluny, Christ is risen.... Truely He is risen.... & for that reason.... I wish everyone a... Happy Easter Season :-)
Christ is alive & that's the only reason I celebrate the Easter Holiday. Easter will always be a reason for me to say, "Happy Easter".
---Reba on 3/31/13


The traditional Christian greeting at this season is "Christ is risen!" (not "Happy Easter"), and the response is "Truly He is risen."

So to those on here who follow the Pope's Easter and not Pascha, Christ is risen.
---Cluny on 3/31/13


Thank God for the grace of Salvation by Jesus Christ. Thank God for the grace to witness this year's Easter. Greetings to Reba & family.
---Adetunji on 3/31/13


---e.lee7537 on 3/31/13
Shows how little you know about SDA and the word of God. SDA do celebrate the risen Lord:

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

we are not into using heathen ways to worship God we worship in spirit and in truth

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, ..and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
---francis on 3/31/13


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there is a song my friends sing.."He got up for me". I am thankful everyday that He got up for me. I never take my salvation for granted or my days God gives me.
---shira4368 on 3/31/13


AMEN REBA! Happy Easter to you & yours, & to all CN bloggers. :)
---Leon on 3/31/13


yes, Christ has risen and on Sunday. Too bad that Adventists cannot celebrate the resurrection of Jesus as they are forbidden to worship with other Christians on the Lord's Day.
---e.lee7537 on 3/31/13


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