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Walking Dead Or The Bible

According to network news, 12.4 million people watched "The Walking Dead" finale, on TV Easter Sunday night, and 11.7 watched "The Bible" finale. Does that say anything about the hearts/souls of cable TV viewers?

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1 Corinthians 15:45

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul, the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

I think thats what she is referring to and I hope she is a she? lol I assumed Kathr was short for Kathryn.
---Jasheradan on 4/15/13


Nikki, you asked me:
"Let me ask you this question.
CAN God become a piece of bread, door or a gate IF HE WANTED?"

The answer is no, because God is Spirit. The passages are not to be taken literally but metaphoricaly. "No eucharistic miracle of transubtantiation was implied," nor could the disciples have missed the symbolic intent of His statement, for His actual body, yet unbroken was before their very eyes. This is an excuse for the RCC to say they have eternal life by eating a piece of bread, more works for salvation. Eternal life does not come on a piece of bread or by getting water sprinkled on your head. Eating the bread symbolizes the life we have through Christ works on the Cross for our sins.
---Mark_V. on 4/15/13


Nikki, it's all in 1 Corinthians 15.

Nothing in scripture though about a new Adam. Never even uses the term. But not surprised man has taken what is in scripture and re-worded it, and then redefined what they re-worded. Like Eternal Son, and not Son of God, Begotten God, rather than begotten son, re-birth for Born again, or with some, an EXTRA BIRTH along with Born Again.

Many arguments here on line are because of these redefined, reworded words.
---kathr4453 on 4/15/13


Luke 8:11

11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

Nikki, that is why we see the WORD was made flesh. Scripture tells us the seed is the Word, in many scriptures. Also WE are Born Again by the WORD of God. And by that we are begotten sons through Jesus Christ.

If you understand why John says the WORD was made flesh, and also read all of John, re WORD, and 1,2, 3 John, with other back up, you will come to understand in a deeper understanding, the SEED IS CHRIST, as Paul tells us in Galatians.


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---kathr4453 on 4/15/13


Somehow Nikki fails to see the incarnate Jesus is also called the Last Adam.--kathr4453 on 4/14/13

No, I never heard of Jesus being called that, but I have heard of Jesus being the New Adam.

Still neither came from a seed.
---Nikki on 4/14/13




Somehow Nikki fails to see the incarnate Jesus is also called the Last Adam.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/13


are you saying there was no GOD SEED that attached to Mary's womb, forming a child in her womb, forming exactly as all humans form? Your wrong. Jesus was Jewish, had His mothers eyes ears nose, and her DNA. Could Jesus have procreated Absolutely yes.---kathr4453

Do you think God had sperms??? That is what seeds means: sperms.

God isn't limited like us.
How do you think HE made Adam? Who's seed did He used?
He made him from the clay, dirt. Eve was made from the rib of Adam. Still no seeds involved.

Jesus was made from Mary. He was a true man from head, middle and toes.

But God doesn't have seeds in making anyone. He is God.

We as humans need sperm and egg because we can't create life. WE ARE NOT GOD.
---Nikki on 4/14/13


\\I will continue to use the term Cluny, whether you like it or not.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/13\\

And as Humpty Dumpty in THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS said, "When I use a word, it means exactly what I want it to mean."

If you want to misuse words, go ahead, but don't expect to be able to carry on a useful conversation with intelligent people.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/14/13


Cluny, please get a life. Here is an example of eternity FUTURE. The New Heaven and Earth, and the fact we will be Eternally Glorified with Christ. We are NOW eternal in Christ, but the final fulfillment of that time has not yet come, YET I am still eternal. With God, are you saying that time has come? Are we living in His re-runs. Has the END already come?

You major in the minors like so many here who would rather major in the minors to cover up their little tiny bit of understanding, because they really have nothing else to offer.

I will continue to use the term Cluny, whether you like it or not.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/13


So Nikki, are you saying there was no GOD SEED that attached to Mary's womb, forming a child in her womb, forming exactly as all humans form? Your wrong.

Jesus was Jewish, had His mothers eyes ears nose, and her DNA. Could Jesus have procreated? Absolutely yes. He was not a FREAK.. If He was, all he had to do is pull down His pants and prove he was not like other men, proving He was a God-man.

I believe Jesus at His incarnation was HUMAN with a DIVINE NATURE.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/13




\\When great Bible scholars use the term,\\

WHO are these "great Bible scholars?" The only time I've heard it used from the pulpit was by a wandering Charismatic prophet who then started to deny the physical resurrection of our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ!

**I didn't write this, God did.**

Actually, kathr, God didn't write ANYTHING in the NT.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/14/13


Jesus wore diapers, cried, ate, bled died. All human attributes. Are you saying He only had human emotions, as in nature. Scripture doesn't say He took on the nature of Abraham, but the seed of Abraham.---kathr4453 on 4/13/13

Not all human attributes as we have in sin. He has human flesh.
Man gives seeds. Women have eggs.
Jesus was not conceived with a sperm, but by the Holy Spirit.

He is fully God and fully man as a human nature.

Are you claiming Jesus isn't God?
---Nikki on 4/13/13


The Word of God, who IS God, WAS God, and always WILL BE God, took upon Himself sinful flesh, just like ours

The ambiguous "Fully God, Fully Man" and "hypostatic union" find its roots in the mishandling of Gnosticism by the Apostolic Fathers (such as Tertullian and Iraneus), even giving rise to Arianism

The Fathers caused major confusion by not continuing the biblical distinction between the spirit and body, and developed an "original sin" doctrine that is riddled with problems concerning Christ.

Hence, the eventual need for an Immaculate Conception hoax.

Traducianism and Purgatory also thru error upon error
---James_L on 4/13/13


Kathr... we know there is only one living God. God sent His Son to die for us that we may live. His Only Son.
---shira4368 on 4/13/13


//Karthr, yes Jesus is NOT a human person he has a human nature. We are human persons. Jesus is a God PERSON.//---Nikki


So tell me... when does God experience fear?

Matt 26:39
And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.


God became flesh. That means God became his own creation. He became a man. He was tempted just as we are. Experienced everything just as we do.. yet without sin. That is how He is able to help us resist temptation! (Heb 4:15)
---Jasheradan on 4/14/13


Nikki, there is only one mediator between God and Man, the Man Christ Jesus.

I didn't write this, God did.

It doesn't say God man Christ Jesus. I wonder why. Jesus was made flesh, that is human. Here flesh does not mean epidermis , but human.

Jesus wore diapers, cried, ate, bled died. All human attributes. Are you saying He only had human emotions, as in nature. Scripture doesn't say He took on the nature of Abraham, but the seed of Abraham.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/13


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Jesus had to be born as a human being for several reasons. One is outlined in Galatians 4:4-5: But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, to redeem those under the law. Only a man could be born under the law. No animal or angelic being is under the law. Only humans are born under the law and only a human being could redeem other human beings born under the same law. Only a perfect humanJesus Christ could perfectly keep the law and perfectly fulfill the law.

Jesus Christ, the perfect Lamb of God, sacrificed His human life and shed His human blood to cover the sins of all who would ever believe in Him. If He were not human, this would have been impossible.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/13


//yes Jesus is NOT a human person he has a human nature. We are human persons. Jesus is a God PERSON.//

Jesus was 100% human and Jesus was/is/and always will be 100% God.
---aka on 4/13/13


Karthr, yes Jesus is NOT a human person he has a human nature. We are human persons. Jesus is a God PERSON.

As we sing in great song 'Holy Holy Holy' In the 4th line or stanza(sp?)
'God in three Persons, blessed Trinity.'

//If God Begot a God in eternity past, how do we know there aren't more begotten Gods, or God might just BEGET another today.---kathr4453

Because HE said so! He said there is no other.
Begotten means in the sense of not created. We are created, not Him.
Just because you don't understand doesn't mean it is wrong. It means you are not God. Have no fear He is in control.

Rev 22:13
"..I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
---Nikki on 4/13/13


Cluny, I didn't make up the term, eternity past, but I know it means prior to Jesus birth. It also means prior to the creation of man or the world. So use your thinking cap, it really isn't that difficult. When great Bible scholars use the term, they know as well as anyone else what is being said.

So is the NASV a RCC thing Cluny, saying in John 1:18 a Begotten God?

There is no such thing as a begotten God, past present or future. however this false doctrine from the RCC has caused those to write the NASV using this bazaar term Begotten God.

You say God begat Himself with Himself? Or He begat a son before Jesus was Born of a Virgin? At least with Mary, someone conceived. You cannot BEGET without someone CONCEIVING.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/13


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MerkV, We are a triune being because our Creator made us in his image.

Does your body decide to do anything on its own? It receives instruction from your brain which is based on the desire of your "heart" and your body physically or verbally carries out those orders.

See the trinity there? Youre still ONE MarkV. Theres no other YOU.

Your hand does not decide to do something on its own unless its given instruction based upon the desire of your heart. Unless you are defective.

Please don't ask me how one God can divide himself and still be ONE god. I don't dare attempt to wrap my little brain around that one.

Faith.. not my own understanding.
---Jasheradan on 4/13/13


\\If God Begot a God in eternity past, how do we know there aren't more begotten Gods, or God might just BEGET another today. Wow, wonder how this is all going to play out with end times...and anti-Christ.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/13\\

You err, knowing neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.

You don't even know the meaning of words, kathr. "Eternity past" is an oxymoron, like "neat garbage." "Past" is a quality of time, and "eternity" means "outside of time."

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/13/13


Nikki, you say Jesus was not a human person?
---kathr4453 on 4/13/13


\\Some say "Fully God Fully Man" and throw around "hypostatic union" without any attempt to distinguish that God is Spirit, and took upon Himself sinful flesh.--James_L on 4/12/13\\

And just what do you think "hypostatic union" means, James_L?

God IS spirit, and took upon Himself a human nature, including our physical body, and united them into the PERSON we know as Jesus, without ceasing to be what He was before.

That's what "hypostatic union" means.

And Jesus IS fully God and fully man.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/13/13


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Some say "Fully God Fully Man" and throw around "hypostatic union" without any attempt to distinguish that God is Spirit, and took upon Himself sinful flesh.--James_L on 4/12/13

The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time.

Not in the sense of taking sinful flesh as you put it, because he had a human nature not a human person.
There is a difference.

Jesus is a God Person with a human nature.
---Nikki on 4/13/13


What James said!
---Jasheradan on 4/13/13


Well Nikki , explain your statement here and tell us if Jesus was generated from the Father, before His incarnation, exactly how then is He First, Beginning, Alpha? Wouldn't your theory say the Father is?


And this BEGOTTEN GOD business that is stated in the NASV is horrible, but what are ya gonna do? pray people are grounded enough to know that is blasphemy.

If God Begot a God in eternity past, how do we know there aren't more begotten Gods, or God might just BEGET another today. Wow, wonder how this is all going to play out with end times...and anti-Christ.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/13


Jesheradan, thanks for that information, I had it already. What you were describing was that He was God. I said He was God. But He is God the Son. Neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit became flesh, the Son did. The fact that He is God He is mentioned all over the Old Testament. The Christ of the Scriptures is God, and a God who is not eternal is not God. Since the Arian controversy in the fouth century there has been no successful denial of His eternity which has not also denied His preexistence. The Son is mentioned as Jehovah, Elohim, Adonai, in many passages, even as the Angel of the Lord.
---Mark_V. on 4/13/13


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\\...concerning Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh. A son is an heir.\\
---Jasheradan on 4/12/13

AMEN to that !!

Trying to understand "Son" from a non-Hebrew perspective led to all sorts of mystical, hocus-pocus "explanations" about the nature of Christ, and some damnable heresies.

Some say "Fully God Fully Man" and throw around "hypostatic union" without any attempt to distinguish that God is Spirit, and took upon Himself sinful flesh.

And to the heir, all one has to do is look at Isaac who was called Abraham's "only son" yet Ishmael was already Abraham's offspring and child
---James_L on 4/12/13


( Phillippians 2:5-8). Clearly the Son, Jesus Christ, not the Father, became flesh. And in the flesh suffered for our sins on the Cross.--Mark_V. on 4/12/13

AMEN!


Jesus isn't Gods "little boy", He is God in the flesh.---Jasheradan on 4/11/13

No, He is God's Son. No little about it.
Do you believe in the Trinity? If so, then you should know we were created by the Trinity.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said: "Lets make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...
Genesis 1:27 God created man in HIS image, in the divine image HE created him, male and female HE created them.

The Trinity takes different roles in our Salvation.
---Nikki on 4/12/13


RCC,and JW's and Reformed hold a "begotten god" from Origen about the "eternal generation" of the Son

Eternal Sonship holds the Son of God, was eternally begotten "mysteriously" by the Father.

The Divine Nature of Jesus, His Deity, His Godhead, was eternally generated by God the Father before His incarnation.

By means of eternal generation, God the Father begat, fathered, the Second Person of the Trinity in eternity past before His Incarnation.

By means of eternal procession, God the Holy Spirit "mystically" proceeds from Father and Son.

The obvious conclusion is a begotten god, which reduces Jesus to a begotten god.

The NASV affirms this lie in John 1:18.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/13


MerkV, let me help YOU concerning Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh. A son is an heir.

YHWH does not share his glory with another.
(Isaiah 42:8)(Hebrews 1:6)

He is YHWH/Yahweh/"Jehovah"
"behold the hand, behold the nail"
(Exodus 6:3)

He is God with us
(Isaiah 7:14)(Matt 1:22)

He is the great I AM
(Exodus 3:14)(John 8:58)

He is Alpha and Omega.
(Isaiah 44:6)(Rev22:13)

Beholding him IS beholding the Father
(John 14:9)

He sends his messenger before him
(Malachi 1:3)(Matt 11:10)

He is the The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father
(Isaiah 9:6)

John 8:24
If ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
---Jasheradan on 4/12/13


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Jesheradan, let me help you concerning Jesus Christ who is the Son of God:
"Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal to God. But made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondserveant and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance of a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death even the death of the Cross." ( Phillippians 2:5-8). Clearly the Son, Jesus Christ, not the Father, became flesh. And in the flesh suffered for our sins on the Cross.
---Mark_V. on 4/12/13


Scripture does not say Gods son was made flesh. It says that the Creator took upon himself the form of a man (AS OF a begotten son) and became a servant to sinful mankind. (Philippians 2)

THAT is true love!

That is a god who is meek and lowly, just as He says he is. All-powerful, deserving of all praise and yet humble enough to become a servant to those who needed him to be.

That is absolutely beautiful. I will kiss the feet of that god and sing his praises for all eternity.

Jesus isn't Gods "little boy", He is God in the flesh.
---Jasheradan on 4/11/13


//I saw the first episode of The Bible and when I saw Moses part the Red Sea in about 30 seconds like his staff had power, I lost interest.
---JackB on 4/3/13//

The purpose of Moses parting the Red Sea is to show that God was with Moses and that he was the unquestionable leader of the Israelites. Of coarse the staff did not do anything but the event viewed from the Israelites perspective proved God spoke through Moses. this would come up again when God came down to the Israelites and they were afraid of God and sent Moses as a mediator.
---Scott1 on 4/11/13


shira,
Jesus is not the eternal Son of God?
---micha9344 on 4/11/13


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it says that the fiction was more enjoyable in the former.

i cannot believe that 11.7 people watched "The Babble" finale.
---aka on 4/10/13


if God's Son was made flesh then who is the eternal son? I have never heard of that before.
---shira4368 on 4/10/13


\Kathr, you say: "MarkV,"God" was made flesh. John 1 does not say the Eternal Son became flesh." Actually Markv, GOD SAID THIS, right there in John 1. If you have issues, take it up with the Lord...\-kathr4453 on 4/10/13
\Kathr, you say: "MarkV,"God" was made flesh. John 1 does not say the Eternal Son became flesh." ...\-Mark_V. on 4/10/13
\MarkV,"God" was made flesh. John 1 does not say the Eternal Son became flesh...\-kathr4453 on 4/9/13
--It's hard to discuss a matter with someone who argues with themselves.
---micha9344 on 4/10/13


Kathr, you say:

"MarkV,"God" was made flesh. John 1 does not say the Eternal Son became flesh."


Actually Markv, GOD SAID THIS, right there in John 1. If you have issues, take it up with the Lord.

And stop slandering people here who just don't say the EXACT words you have memorized out of books.

Are you Autistic MarkV? Can you think outside your boxed in false doctrine?

I know Markv you must be a lonely person, and will do anything say anything to get attention, even negative attention.

But I will not be responding back to you on this issue.
---kathr4453 on 4/10/13


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where does markv get the idea that He was a created son? This day have I begotten thee.

Now teh definition of created verses Begotten are in view here. Angels were created, not begotten. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. Nothing about an only created son.

Stop playing word twister here markv, you are creating a straw man who only exists in your imagination to blow away.

Then you argue about something never said....
---kathr4453 on 4/10/13


Kathr, you say:

"MarkV,"God" was made flesh. John 1 does not say the Eternal Son became flesh."

Of course God became flesh, He is the Son of God, who is eternal. He has always been. He was never created a Son. For it is written:
"God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world: But that the world through Him might be saved" Which implies that the Son of God existed before the incarnation. He says,
"For I came down from heaven, not to do mine will, but the will of Him that sent Me" (John 6:38).
He was not created a Son, He has always been the Son.
---Mark_V. on 4/10/13


\We have the Son of God, Son of Man Son of David all titles of Jesus Christ. But we know Jesus was not ALWAYS manifest as the Son of Man or Son of David. THAT came at His incarnation, yet He was is and will always be GOD!\-kathr4453 on 4/9/13
-Thanks for agreeing that He has always been the Son of God.
---micha9344 on 4/10/13


MarkV,"God" was made flesh. John 1 does not say the Eternal Son became flesh.

Why does Hebrews state, the Worlds were framed by the WORD OF GOD?In the Beginning "GOD"!

Why does Revelation say, and His NAME is called The WORD OF GOD.. .Yes, the first, Last, Beginning and End, the Alpha and Omega is GOD.

Why does 1st John say, we handles the WORD OF LIFE.

Why does James say, we are Born Again of the WORD of God. Of coarse we are Born Again by our identification with Jesus in death and resurrection life.

I will say it the way all the Apostles say it. If I'm wrong, so are they.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/13


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micha, there has never been a time when the triune God has ever been without itself period. It's ONE God in three persons or three manifestations of Himself, not three separate Gods in one person.

The "LOGOS" was made Flesh. This is what scripture teaches.

We have the Son of God, Son of Man Son of David all titles of Jesus Christ. But we know Jesus was not ALWAYS manifest as the Son of Man or Son of David. THAT came at His incarnation, yet He was is and will always be GOD!

Just as Abraham says Isaac, His ONLY begotten Son. Now we know Abraham had another named Ishmael, but "ONLY" MEANS that of Title, Inheritance. In Isaac will thy seed be called, and the seed is Christ.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/13


The Eternal God was not always the Father?
When was the Word conceived?
If we truly believe that life starts at conception, then God was the Father the moment He conceived His Word, which is from eternity past.
There has never been a time that the Father was without His Son, whether internally conceived or externally begotten.
---micha9344 on 4/9/13


Kathr, your wrong again. You claim the Word was made flesh, yet disagree the Word is the Son of God. You claimed He became a Son through time.

The Father said to the Son,
"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever" (Psa. 45:6,7). Notice that the writer claims that God the Father Himself addresses Jesus as God (v. 1-9). And by the way that Makes Jesus the Son eternal.
Jesus the Son also said,
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last" Here Jesus the Son is speaking in (v.12 of Rev. 22:12-13,16,20). In John 8:58) When questioned about how He could be old enough to have seen Abraham (v.56,57) Jesus the Son said,
"Before Abraham was, I AM"
---Mark_V. on 4/9/13


MarkV God certainly is eternal. The Word made flesh is God who is eternal.

I say it exactly as scripture states it and you say it's wrong, yet I see no verse ever saying the Eternal Son.

Please just find one verse that says ETERNAL SON and then you can say I am wrong. Until then MarkV, YOU are wrong until YOU can prove a verse saying Eternal Son.

Why do you hate First John..the WORD was made Flesh.

Do you not believe the WORD IS GOD MarkV?

YOU make up LIES to slander for your own means to slander. God hates slanders and they will not enter teh Kingdom of God youy say you SAW.

We Still haven't heard yet what you SAW.

All HATE talk MarkV all HATE talk.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/13


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Kathr, call me what you want. I don't mind. You are already in the front of the line. You say:
" And you say I'm the only one who doesn't speak truth....are you saying I'm the ONLY ONE HERE who believes in free will?
See, again you twist, distort and lie."
Of course not, for there is many who believe in free will.
Of everyone who answers, not counting the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons, you answer all the topics wrong. Every topic of Scripture you have destroyed. You might know the Truth, but instead, for sake of argument, you twist the Scriptures by adding a lot of talk even to rejecting that the Son of God is not eternal. Only to continue to argue. People do become enemies for life with you.
---Mark_V. on 4/8/13


Markv, don't you need to go have a pedicure or something?

"With the exception of you" again is a personal attack.

You and your opinions of anyone here just doesn't interest me and many others here.

Everything really ISN'T all about you or what you think.

May we should rename you Ally McBeal.
---kathr4453 on 4/7/13


You know Markv, I've been thinking, and yes you are correct. Taking an issue and beating it like a dead horse into the ground making enemies is not a good thing. I realized it after reflecting on your way of handling free will, and how God just picked you out of a hat, and realized just how many friends you have made by not driving THAT over everyone's head over and over and over and over and over.......

But you will have to admit, the only people who believe you are Calvinists, like yourself. And you say I'm the only one who doesn't speak truth....are you saying I'm the ONLY ONE HERE who believes in free will?

See, again you twist, distort and lie.

....but I don't need to beat that over and over.
---kathr4453 on 4/7/13


Kathr, you are wacky. It sounds like you already got hit in the head as E.G. White. You post a blog real good and on the other you go haywire again. You say,
"Maybe he's smack his head and some lights will come on. Maybe he'll see one minute he agrees with you, and the next disagrees, depending on what he just ate for dinner."
Of course I agree many times when someone speaks the Truth. And don't agree when I feel they don't. I do not make people my enemies for life because they disagreed with me on one topic. That is what you do. It's all or nothing. Everyone here with the exception of you, speaks truth many times depending on the topic. From the first time I disagreed with you, you got personal with me. Are you Bipolar?
---Mark_V. on 4/7/13


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Did the movie have a negative affect on you Leon? It sure didn't have a positive one.

Let's do pray for Leon and this spirit of pride that he just can't be shown that he is wrong on some things, no doubt taught by his African American's who, like anyone else can twist things.

But IN CHRIST we are a New Creature Leon, no more black, yellow, green or blue, no more male, female, no more slave, BUT A NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST. You need to live in the present LEon, not some past, were you feel injustice has been dealt with your race. believe me I know. I have friends who just cannot let go of all the abuse of our people. At least you weren't sent by millions to be exterminated. Thou you wish now you could exterminate me.
---kathr4453 on 4/7/13


Get a life Kat so you can stop being a heartless blog zombie (one of the walking dead)! :D
---Leon on 4/6/13


Cluny, Just google "Icons of Mary and Jesus" you will see most of them depicting Theotokos blond and especially the infant Jesus.
One thing they all have in common is the halo or nimbus depicting sun worship symbols around the head!
---1st_cliff on 4/6/13


No, better yet Leon, do call Markv anything you want. Yes, he really loves to argue with you for no reason, but just to argue. Oh, but I see, so do you.

He does that with so many here on line. You can throw him at me if you like. You can throw him at anyone really. Better yet, just throw him.

Maybe he's smack his head and some lights will come on. Maybe he'll see one minute he agrees with you, and the next disagrees, depending on what he just ate for dinner.

His opinion is so very important. LOL. He's as childish as you are.

Name calling and the whole works.

Now kiss and make up you two!
---kathr4453 on 4/6/13


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I have to agree here with Markv. We serve a RISEN SAVIOR, who lives in the hearts of those who are His.

I personally believe that anyone who plays the part of the crucifixion is bordering blasphemy. When the ROBE did it, they did in good taste not to show the face of the actor playing the part.

The jury is out on Passion Plays anyway....Paul never had one to preach the Gospel. It started with the RCC, and those resulted in horrible violence against Jews. It set off Hitler and that is also well know.

So Leon, there are MANY REASONS why the ending was not watched by everyone.
---kathr4453 on 4/6/13


Leon, call me what you want, it will not change the facts. That no true believer needs to be reminded over and over by looking at a movie how Christ died on the Cross. The words of God should be planted in their hearts forever. "For blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed" (John 20:29). Movies have never saved anyone, for salvation comes from God by grace through faith. No movie will ever give the true facts of who Christ is or true facts as to His death, and no movie will ever be able to show Christ in His full glory. Most of the times they show Him defeated on the Cross for the world to see a defeat Christ.
---Mark_V. on 4/6/13


Genuine huh?! Markie, Markie, Markie! You're such a legalist!

Hey bud, here's a tip: You don't make the rules for eveyone else. God does & as Scripture says: His ways are higher than ours! So, what might seem crazy to you or me could be the very thing that ultimately brings others to a saving faith in Jesus Christ. :)
---Leon on 4/6/13


Leon, genuine Christians do not need reminders as to how Christ died and was resurrected. It's not like they lost sight of all that and need to be reminded. Movies on TV are mostly made by liberals with an agenda. The lost world does not get saved by a movie. They are saved by grace through faith. Even when the gospel is proclaimed to many, the Word comes to them in word only, not in power and in the Holy Spirit. So statistics of how many are watching tv. means little at all.
Strongaxe had a good point, people that like the "walking dead" probably watched it because they did not know the ending. The world know about Jesus Christ, they just do not belief in Him.
---Mark_V. on 4/6/13


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I've never seen a statue of the Virgin Mary with blonde hair, myself.

I'm not saying they don't exist.

Of course, ancient Greeks who worshipped Diana--properly, Aretemis--didn't have blonde hair, either. And for the most part, modern Greeks don't either.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/5/13


Not surprising though, the statues of Mary in the Catholic Churches have her blond hair and blue eyes in reality it's Diana ,Greek goddess.---1st_cliff on 4/4/13

How many Catholic Churches have you seen?
Because you would know that all Catholic Churches in the World has statues of Mary and Child looking like the race of the people.

Our Lady of Guadeloupe - Mexican
Our Lady of Lourdes - French
Our Lady of Fatima - Portuguese
There are several African Madonnas, Asian Madonnas in each Country. Even Arabic Madonnas.
Just Bing 'different statues of Mary and Child'.

You will be surprised.
---Nikki on 4/4/13


The bible was Hollywood's idea of Jesus who looked anything but Jewish .
Not surprising though, the statues of Mary in the Catholic Churches have her blond hair and blue eyes in reality it's Diana ,Greek goddess.
---1st_cliff on 4/4/13


I can no more see into the hearts of those who have Cable TV, then I can see into the hearts of those without Cable TV. And to judge someone's heart and soul by whether they watched the History Channels, "The Bible ". Well, all I can say is, God is not judging anyone's heart and soul by whether they watched this series or not. And the only judge that matters is HIM.
---kathr4453 on 4/4/13


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I saw the first episode of The Bible and when I saw Moses part the Red Sea in about 30 seconds like his staff had power, I lost interest.
---JackB on 4/3/13


Willie: The network news reporters did say those were floating numbers. They said the numbers would be going up since they hadn't made a full assessment of the viewers in both groups.

So you won't have to generalize as to why I asked the question, during this Easter Season, I was just reflecting upon all the "Walking Dead" (unregenerated people) in the U.S., etc., who put no stock (belief) in the death, burial & resurrection of Jesus Christ.

True Jan! :)
---Leon on 4/3/13


According to network news, 12.4 million people watched "The Walking Dead" finale, on TV Easter Sunday night, and 11.7 watched "The Bible" finale.

It's just statistics on cable viewers. We can only guess at how many other millions said, "What else is on?"
---jan4378 on 4/3/13


I have not seen walking dead. just the name turns me off. I like to read matthew, mark, luke and john's version of Christ on the cross. some say they contradict each other but they tell as they personally saw Jesus. anytime more than one see what is happening it is always their own views and no two see things the same. guess that is what makes people interesting. God bless
---shira4368 on 4/2/13


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As you can see, Leon, each of us can have a very different perspective of things. So . . . each person who did or did not watch could have a unique different reason. You might get to know each person, then you might see what it means that so many did and did not watch. But it is "easier" to be lazy and make generalizations (c: lololol

How do they get the numbers? I think they can somehow record which TV's are tuned to which shows. So, they count the TV's on . . . but can not count how many people are at each TV.

Ah-hah . . . another unique answer, here (c:

People are not puppets and clones of statisticians. Also, may be the Jesus-smart ones use their money to meet needs, instead of paying for cable.
---willie_c: on 4/2/13


Perhaps the viewers were Bible literate, and knew how the Bible ends (unlike The Walking dead)

Perhaps the viewers were recording The Bible for posterity, and watched The Walking Dead - live and just once.

Whenever I've seen biblical or religious documentaries on A & E, History Channel, etc. I've usually found that any subjects I knew about, they wrote about with great inaccuracy - so I tend to mistrust the accuracy of others as well. Perhaps other viewers are similarly skeptical. On the other hand we KNOW zombies aren't real, so we KNOW what level of accuracy we get there.
---StrongAxe on 4/2/13


I didn't watch either. Also the statistics doesn't include what each viewer they believe in either. I tried watching the "bible" show & it didn't show the bible accurately so it lost my view.
---womandisciple on 4/2/13


I didn't see either. Did I miss something good?
---Love.wins on 4/2/13


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You guys and your 300+ million comparison.
Over 40 million of those are ages 10 and under.
How many more people don't even have the History Channel, let alone cable?
The percentage now starts looking rather large.
For a country that is "no longer just a Christian nation", it stacks up well.
---micha9344 on 4/2/13


The US population is over 300 million. These stats say that the majority watched neither program.
---KarenD on 4/1/13


Yeah, Leon. And, those statistics were taken from within the Church alone! (jk) Sad it is, indeed.
---Gordon on 4/1/13


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