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Not sure what you mean Nikki. The Hebrew books, etc were kept all through out the OT, and certainly not by the RCC. And we know the NT could not have been organized without them. But it is my understanding you all added books we do not recognize. So who made that decision?

And we know Christianity was alive and well long before there was an RCC, who took it upon themselves to HIDE what already belonged to the little people.

All anyone has to do is read 1 and
2nd Peter to know Peter NEVER was a Pope, or ever preached what the RCC teaches, but the opposite. Peter wrote to the 12 Tribes of Israel, the dispersed, warning them against any sort of organized religion, and the false teaching that would accompany such a thing.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/13


Q. Why can't we all just get along! :)

A. UNREPENTANT SIN: Pride, arrogance...2 Timothy 3.

Q. Is there anyone here willing to be a SERVANT of the Lord & will, of a FREE WILL, choose to die to SELF?!
---Leon on 4/14/13


God worked THROUGH those who gave us the Scriptures, putting it in an orderly manner,in what we call THE BIBLE---kathr4453 on 4/13/13

You were almost there! Look at your sentence. //God worked through those (stop).

Who are the those??? I can't get MarkV to answer it. Please answer the question.
Again, please no more stating God inspired the men. WE ALL KNOW THAT. WHO ARE THE MEN THAT WHERE INSPIRED??
---Nikki on 4/13/13


The problem is you take it so personal when TheSeg, MarkV and I witness and testify what is written in the Bible that's always in contrary to what you like to proclaim.--christan

Who's taking it personal? I,m having fun.
I always give Scripture
Jesus warned about false christ. Not false christian.
Jesus didn't say false christian because He isn't false.
A Christian follows Jesus Christ.
If you are baptize in the name of the Trinity you as a christian. If you think a man is Jesus who isn't Jesus, then it makes you a mistaken christian. Tricked christian.
Obama's mother is white. Obama is black and white. But his mother isn't black.

Please don't stop witness and testify to me. TRULY I AM HAVING A BALL.
---Nikki on 4/13/13


Nikki, now that I told you the truth you accuse me of saying,

"You have the word 'invent' and 'discover'.
Bell invented the telephone.
One discovers the planets."


Where did I use the word "Invent" or "discover?" Now you are going to do what Kathr does when confronted with the Truth. I told you I didn't get any pleasure speaking about the RCC, you said you get pleasure, and it seems you are not getting any pleasure. Of course you don't like to hear that. When I speak of the Bible I am talking about Scripture. It did not fall out of the sky, it was written by writers inspired by God. All the books and letters were complete by A.D. 90. No Catholic Church existed before that time.
---Mark_V. on 4/14/13




Francois Samuel Robert Louis Gaussen

"Born in Geneva, Switzerland, on August 25, 1790,
Gaussens principal ministry was in Geneva, where he died on June 18, 1863.
Gaussen was a strict Reformed theologian, and he deviated from Reformed doctrines only with regard to his theory of predestination, for he denied supralapsarianism."

He would therefore deny christan and mark-v if he were alive today.
---Nana on 4/14/13


Nice speech Markv, who wrote those words. It would be nice if you told us who wrote that.

I know what Nikki is saying, and you again appear to be playing games.

No, the Bible did not fall out of the sky, neatly packaged in the KJV or any version. And it took prayer And spiritual discernment to know what letters to put in and those to keep out. Many fakes and forgeries , and those using Paul's name.

God worked THROUGH those who gave us the Scriptures, putting it in an orderly manner,in what we call THE BIBLE.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/13


"...there isn't such thing as a false christian." Nikki

Really? Jesus warned: "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets..."

Followers of Jesus Christ are known as Christians. Therefore, followers of false christs are known as false christians. Why "false", because their christ is a false god, simple right?

The problem is you take it so personal when TheSeg, MarkV and I witness and testify what is written in the Bible that's always in contrary to what you like to proclaim. The Bible says what it says and there's no interpretation required but just confirming Scripture with Scripture.
---christan on 4/13/13


MarkV, your version of history isn't possible. Your version makes it seem as if the Bible was lying in hiding, and someone found it all bundled up in one book??
Of course the Bible is inspired by God. But God didn't drop the Bible into men's hands.

You have the word 'invent' and 'discover'.
Bell invented the telephone.
One discovers the planets.

Do you know what parts of the Bible not inspired by God?
'Table of contents'
Of course God gave us wisdom to develop the system as we have it today. But the Bible is bits and pieces placed into a book in a certain order.
The letter of James isn't in the OT and Judges isn't in the NT for a reason.
Someone or persons placed them together.
IN YOUR OPINION, WHO?
---Nikki on 4/13/13


That's because to understand God's mercy you contradict Him by saying He's tolerant of sin when He didn't spare His Son, which is a clear indication that He's indeed intolerant of sin or Christ needn't have to die. Therefore your understanding of His mercy is but erroneous---christan on 4/12/13

We are going in circles.

Because God didn't tolerant sin, He allowed His Son to die for us. Mercy.

If you tolerate sin, why allow your son to die? No Mercy.
After all, we deserve to die in our sin because we committed them.
Why should my son die for your sins? He didn't sin, you did.
---Nikki on 4/13/13




Nikki, mentioning the terrible teachings of the RCC does not give me pleasure. But when pressed it's necessary. Evidence shows that the canon of Scripture, the 66 books that compose the Bible, were cannonized by the fact that they are inspired of God. The claim made by you that the RCC gave us the Bible cannot be sustained. God gave us the Bible. The Church is a servant and not a mistress, a depository and not a judge. She exercises the office of a minister, not of a magistrate. She delivers a testimony, not a judicial sentence. She discerns the canon of the Scriptures, she does not make it. The authority of Scripture is not founded, then, on the authority of the Church, it is the Church that is founded on the authority of the Scriptures.
---Mark_V. on 4/13/13


"Nope, not for me. Why? Because Jesus is so MERCIFUL that HE DIED for my sins. He knew I couldn't pay for the wages of sin. So HE PAID IT FOR ME." Nikki"

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me." Matthew 15:8

"What's so hard to understand about His Mercy?"

That's because to understand God's mercy you contradict Him by saying He's tolerant of sin when He didn't spare His Son, which is a clear indication that He's indeed intolerant of sin or Christ needn't have to die. Therefore your understanding of His mercy is but erroneous.
---christan on 4/12/13


Christan, there isn't such thing as a false christian.

Either you are one or not.
You can be a bad or good christian.

I guess you were speaking about me when I asked MarkV on who does He think compiled the NT?
I know it was the RCC. I am asking MarkV a question about his thinking, if he doesn't believe it was the RCC.
---Nikki on 4/13/13


Brother MarkV, greetings and peace be with you. It is indeed true the teachings of Jesus that there will be false christ which also means false christians in this world. Christ said, "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."

When question like, "MarkV, who do you think were the group of men that put together the NT? Or do you think it was one man?" is raised, the words of Christ rings true.

No Christian will ever doubt who even wrote the Holy Bible, none! If ever there was, one would truly doubt if such were even "born of the Spirit" to begin. That's why we were admonished to "test the spirit if they were of God".
---christan on 4/12/13


You're a definition of an antinomian. And please continue to laugh, for that day of "weeping and gnashing" is not far.---christan

Nope, not for me. Why?
Because Jesus is so MERCIFUL that HE DIED for my sins.
He knew I couldn't pay for the wages of sin. So HE PAID IT FOR ME.

What's so hard to understand about His Mercy?

God is trice HOLY. No sin shall enter heaven. So God can't deny Himself, he cleans us Himself. WHAT A MYSTERY!

The angels are shock. They watched us kill the Creator and the Creator doesn't kill us, but shows us mercy and invites us into His home (heaven).

I had to look up the word antinomian. I disagree that a am one, but I love learning new words. Thanks.
---Nikki on 4/12/13


Christan, I hope you are enjoying this as much as I am. I love debating with you, E.lee, The Seg and MarkV and the like.
---Nikki on 4/12/13


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"So, we don't have to die. That's MERCY! Jesus took over place." Nikki

And why did Jesus have to take over the place of His people? After all, your understanding is that God is tolerant of sin? God needn't send His send to Calvary since He was tolerant of sin, right?

And this is fact, Christ did die at Calvary "for the sins of His people"! Doesn't that speak of God's intolerance to sin in 0%?

Now you see how erroneous your teaching of "God's tolerance to sin" is? You can't even get this right and you dare speak of God's mercy? You're a definition of an antinomian. And please continue to laugh, for that day of "weeping and gnashing" is not far.
---christan on 4/12/13


Christan, you make me laugh.
Please read your own blog again.

You wrote: "If He was tolerant of sin, why did Jesus even had to die?"- Christan

So, we don't have to die. That's MERCY! Jesus took over place.

Then you wrote:
"If He was indeed tolerant as you proclaim, Christ didn't have to die. After all to you, He's tolerant and Paul needn't have to write, "For the wages of sin is death..."."-Christan

Yes, death is the wages of sin. JESUS' DEATH
HE PAID THE WAGES FOR US = MERCY

It is you who are confused. JESUS isn't tolerant of sin.
He is merciful and removes the sin for us.
You can not go to heaven because of your sins, until Jesus showed you mercy.
---Nikki on 4/12/13


They were inspired by God. All the church did was to accept what was Truth already.-Mark_V. on 4/12/13

Yes, but you do know that there are other gospels by Thomas and James? Other letters written by Paul to other Churches.

Who decided only these 4 Gospels that we have today in our handy put together Bible?

Why not all the Gospels?

The RCC is the group of men who compiled the cannons of the NT.
God inspired the RCC to give us the Bible (73 books) as we have today.
---Nikki on 4/12/13


Nikki 2: And adding to that is that fact that the "Universal" or Catholic Church did not exist until A.D. 313 when the alliance was consummated between many churches, and the time when the organisation of the Hieracrchy beginned. Christ was throned as the Head of the churches and Emperor Constantine enthroned as head of the church. Before that time, all churches were independent as Scripture command it. The name pope was not even used and Peter was never a pope, he was a bishop and never once headed the Universal Catholic church. He was given that title centuries after his death, all to achieve apostolic succession.
---Mark_V. on 4/12/13


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"Really? Last I read in the Scripture, Paul declared - "For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." Romans 11:32"
---christan on 2/6/11
(What Is God's Mercy blog)

Maybe christan has changed since that blog entry?---Nana on 4/11/13

Nana, you are good!

Christan, I know it must be slightly embarrassing, but could you please answer Nana question.

Have you changed?
---Nikki on 4/12/13


Christan, you make me laugh.
Please read your own blog again.

You wrote: "If He was tolerant of sin, why did Jesus even had to die?"- Christan

So, we don't have to die. That's MERCY! Jesus took over place.

Then you wrote:
"If He was indeed tolerant as you proclaim, Christ didn't have to die. After all to you, He's tolerant and Paul needn't have to write, "For the wages of sin is death..."."-Christan

Yes, death is the wages of sin. JESUS' DEATH
HE PAID THE WAGES FOR US = MERCY

It is you who are confused. JESUS isn't tolerant of sin.
He is merciful and removes the sin for us.
You can not go to heaven because of your sins, until Jesus showed you mercy.
---Nikki on 4/12/13


Nikki, you say,
"MarkV, who do you think were the group of men that put together the NT? Or do you think it was one man?"
The New Testament canon began emerging during the lifetime of the apostles. Prophetic and apostolic authorship was a primary consideration in determining the canon. Within the Church these writings enjoyed the same status afforded to the Old Testament Scripture. The Church readily accepted as canonical the writings of Paul, Peter, James, John etc. The New Testament books had all been written by about A.D. 90. The last one was written by the apostle John, an eyewitness of Jesus ministry, death, and resurrection. They were inspired by God. All the church did was to accept what was Truth already.
---Mark_V. on 4/12/13


Nana & Nikki, you have no understanding to the words tolerance and mercy as far as the Word of God is concerned. God does not show mercy because He's tolerant of sin. If He was tolerant of sin, why did Jesus even had to die?

Doesn't Christ death at Calvary defines that God is not tolerant of sin? If He was indeed tolerant as you proclaim, Christ didn't have to die. After all to you, He's tolerant and Paul needn't have to write, "For the wages of sin is death...". Go understand the meaning of tolerant before using the word.

As for God's mercy, it's rooted in His Holiness and unconditional love for His people. His mercy shown to sinners have nothing to do with your ridiculous understanding of tolerance.
---christan on 4/11/13


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Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us, he will subdue our iniquities, and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea (Micah 7:18,19)
---Jasheradan on 4/11/13


christan:

Saying "we are not from both from God" is not what is distressing, It is "for a moment I was getting worried" - i.e. the fact that both were from God would worry you, but if one were not, it would NOT worry you This implies that you find the fact that someone is not from God to be a RELIEF - i.e. you prefer it.
---StrongAxe on 4/11/13


Shira,Cluny told me I need to get saved by joining the Orthodox church,so consider the source and ignore him. We both can praise God that we need no man to teach us for we both depend on the Holy Ghost to teach us God's truth as His Word tells us. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 4/11/13


" God's tolerance to sin is ZERO%!---christan on 4/10/13

God's tolerance to sin is MERCY! NOT ZERO, BUT MERCY."
---Nikki on 4/11/13

Very nice Nikki!


""But He is limited at times by the disobedience of man." Really? Last I read in the Scripture, Paul declared - "For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." Romans 11:32"
---christan on 2/6/11
(What Is God's Mercy blog)

Maybe christan has changed since that blog entry?
---Nana on 4/11/13


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//Of course you can't believe what's written in the Holy Bible even if your life depended on it//--Christan

Agreed!

(1 John 2:2)
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

(1 Tim 4:10)
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
---JackB on 4/11/13


"I wouldn't believe you if you came to me soaking wet during a thunderstorm saying it was raining outside." Cluny

You may think you're rejecting my believe. But what I have told you are merely Words from the Bible that doesn't even need translations nor commentaries of sorts.

Of course you can't believe what's written in the Holy Bible even if your life depended on it. In fact, nobody (including myself) can believe what's written in the Holy Bible unless John 6:44,65 takes place, to which you are in denial of.

And since you boldly declare you're of God and I'm not, we'll just have to wait and see when the time comes. Since we have a different Jesus, my repentance is most definitely not to your false christ.
---christan on 4/11/13


\\To which I say, it's either he's from God and I'm not based on John's admonishment or vice-versa\\

Of course you're not from God. That's what I've been telling you. Because you have misused the Word of God so much, I wouldn't believe you if you came to me soaking wet during a thunderstorm saying it was raining outside. I'd look for myself to see.

Repent, christan.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/11/13


MarkV, who do you think were the group of men that put together the NT? Or do you think it was one man?
How did these group of men come together? Why did the average Joe decided to take their authority on the subject?
The CHURCH is the only reasonable answer you can give me.
---nikki on 4/11/13


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"It's sad when one rejoices that somebody else is NOT of God." StrongAxe

Rejoice? Who's rejoicing? What I give is glory and praise to God that His words in 1 John 4:1-3 is so very important to His people and that it's our duty to indeed harken onto His Words. I quoted 1 John 4:1-3 and wasn't even pin-pointing to anyone in particular but Cluny chose to respond: "That's why I don't believe you, christan."

To which I say, it's either he's from God and I'm not based on John's admonishment or vice-versa. But most definitely, neither of us has the same spirit, and this also applies to you.

So, do you feel sad for Pharaoh and his army when Moses and the Jews rejoiced in Exodus 15?
---christan on 4/10/13


God's tolerance to sin is ZERO%!---christan on 4/10/13

God's tolerance to sin is MERCY! NOT ZERO, BUT MERCY.
---Nikki on 4/11/13


Nikki, you said?
"The Bible didn't come first. The Church was first. So the Bible came from the Church." Then say,
" Any dogmas of the RCC has it's roots from the Bible" How can the dogmas have its roots from the Bible if the Church gave us the Bible?

God gave us the Scriptures as our final and only authority in all matters of faith and morals. The Church is subject to the authority of the Scriptures. The Church did not make Scripture truth, it received what was already Truth. The Synod of Carthage A.D. 397, listed the twenty-seven books of the New Testament, it did not confer upon them any authority which they did not already possess, but simply recorded their previously established canonicity.
---Mark_V. on 4/11/13


Remember Christ will not share his glory with another. He is a jealous God! He has all the preeminence.--trey on 4/9/13

No jealous involved expect for you all. Jesus gave Peter the keys to take care of His Church. What does Matthew 16:13-19 mean to you?
---Nikki on 4/10/13


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Traditions do over rule Scripture...if you have a question ask, and I will be kind enough to answer you, to me this is not personal unless someone makes it that way,---Mark_V. on 4/10/13

Amen to your last comment. I am not taking anything personal.

But, as far as your comment about RCC's tradition not coming from the Bible, I disagree.

The Bible didn't come first. The Church was first. So the Bible came from the Church. Any dogmas of the RCC has it's roots from the Bible.

Please give me a example of a tradition not rooted in the Bible. I shall give a answer. As far as your education in RCC with it's CCC is hard to believe. I say this in a gentle way, but someone or many have taught you wrong.
---Nikki on 4/10/13


christan:

You said: Wow! Finally you've got it, that one of us is most definitely not of God. Phew, for a moment I was getting worried...

It's sad when one rejoices that somebody else is NOT of God.


trey:

Kingdoms are heirarchies. Kings don't tell every single subject what to do - intermediaries at many levels do that for them. Even the new testament church had many levels of heirarchy - elders, deacons, bishops, etc. The last I heard, Jesus wasn't on a megaphone shouting day-by-day orders to us. Rather, he works through other people.


Peter:

When Jesus describes the final judgment, sheep and goats are separated by their loving actions, NOT the correctness of their beliefs.
---StrongAxe on 4/10/13


\\Darlene, cluny was Baptist before he got smart and changed his denomination. \\

So, when will YOU get smart and do likewise, shira?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/10/13


\\"I'm okay, your okay. Tolerance." born\\

Actually, Christianity says, "I'm not okay, and you're not okay. But that's okay, because Jesus has all eternity to make us new and BETTER than okay--if we let Him."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/10/13


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Darlene, cluny was Baptist before he got smart and changed his denomination. anyone can be saved in all denominations. really all we need to talk about here on Christian is salvation, Jesus, cross and how Christ died for our sin. all other doctrine seems to get in the way of leading any to Christ.
---shira4368 on 4/10/13


Mark V thank you for your support. Peter yes that's what I meant. The denomination doesn't save a person no where in the New Testament does it say it does. I am right because God's Word says to be saved we must believe,Mark 16,16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved. John 10,9 I am the door,by me if any man enter in he shall be saved. Acts 2,21 whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 4,12 for there is no other name given under heaven among men whereby we must be saved. Peter,Cluny tells people who are Christians already they need to join the Orthodox church to be saved.
---Darlene_1 on 4/9/13


"That's why I don't believe you, christan." Cluny

Wow! Finally you've got it, that one of us is most definitely not of God. Phew, for a moment I was getting worried...


"I'm okay, your okay. Tolerance." born

If that was God's stance toward sin, Jesus Christ needn't had to die for the sins of His people. Yours is a New Age philosophy (i.e. "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.")

God's tolerance to sin is ZERO%! So, you're most definitely not okay with Him!
---christan on 4/10/13


Anonymous, everything I answer to is because I studied the topic very closely. I was a former Catholic, have the catechism, Vatican 1 and Vatican 2, have a whole lot of history books of the Church. So many here argue topics they never studied. Also, it has nothing whatsoever with self-righteous, but with the Truth. If you don't like my answers don't respond, if you have a question ask, and I will be kind enough to answer you, to me this is not personal unless someone makes it that way, to me it's about the Truth of the doctrines. It was God who put division between the children in (Gen.3:15)
so we will never all agree.
---Mark_V. on 4/10/13


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Nikki, as to your question let me say, when Jesus declared His deity, He supported His claim by appealing to Scripture. "The Scripture " he says, "Cannot be broken" (John 10:35). Yet many Roman catholics accept the authority of their Church in addition to and sometimes over the Scriptures. The fulness of Truth they maintain, is contained not in Scripture alone, but in both Scripture and Tradition. By Tradition they mean the teachings of the RCC. These are teachings that do not have there roots in Scripture, but have evolved during many centuries and being defined as dogma by the Church. I could go on what those Traditions are that do not have there roots in the Word of God. Traditions do over rule Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 4/10/13


Nikki, Christ doesn't need a substitute agent to head up the church. He heads up the Church and rules from his throne on high.

Col1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Remember Christ will not share his glory with another. He is a jealous God! He has all the preeminence.
---trey on 4/9/13


Nikki, It's the head that does the thinking and tells the body what to do....There can only be ONE RULER to keep that chaos from happening.---Gordon on 4/9/13

We agree. Jesus is the head and the RULER. His Church is the Body. One.

I was speaking to MarkV telling him what you are telling me.

Peace.
---Nikki on 4/9/13


To be exact, Roman Catholicism hold that Jesus left His church to Peter after He ascended into heaven... you have to admit that there is nothing to substantiate the view that any authority was handed downward to the Bishops of Rome.---e.lee7537 on 4/9/13

"Vicar of Christ" is a term that refers to the Pope. A " vicar" is someone who serves --as a substitute or agent.

Matthew 23:2-3
"The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses. Therefore, do and observe all things WHATSOEVER they tell you, but do not follow their example For they preach but they do not practice."

Note the word 'Whatsoever', then read Matthew 16:19 again.

You are clueless about Jesus' Church.
---Nikki on 4/9/13


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Cluny: What makes you think you are right, Darlene? Are you saying there are people with FALSE beliefs in heaven, and they continue to hold these false beliefs there??

Cluny, what makes you assume that Darlene meant that?

She may mean that many OTHER denominations, AS WELL AS THE ORTHODOX have beliefs that will get them into heaven.

But I would very much like to discuss this with you - if you have a Christianet login name, mine is peter9558, in Greece

Blessings
---Peter on 4/9/13


Nikki //Christ is the Head of the Church. So, if He is the Head of the Church, His Body also has Authority.

To be exact, Roman Catholicism hold that Jesus left His church to Peter after He ascended into heaven.

The FACT is that Jesus send the Holy Spirit to the Church after His ascension (Acts 1:7f) and you have to admit that there is nothing to substantiate the view that any authority was handed downward to the Bishops of Rome.

If the bishops of Rome were really of Christ, then clearly we would not see the gross corruption that characterized some of the popes. And you have to bow the knee to such kind of authority. bull dung.
---e.lee7537 on 4/9/13


Nikki, It's the head that does the thinking and tells the body what to do. You can't have all the different body parts dictating what to do, it would result in a lack of unison, and be end in chaos. There can only be ONE RULER to keep that chaos from happening. The Head thinks, decides and speaks, and the Body follows along. That's how they both work together.
---Gordon on 4/9/13


The same is true about Catholics, they even suggest the word of God is not authority. Their own traditions over rule God's Word. They have replaced Christ as the Head of the Church.---Mark_V. on 4/9/13

Now, I am surprise with you.

When, and please answer directly. When have we ever suggest word of God is not authority???

We state the Bible isn't the ONLY authority.
Christ is the Head of the Church. So, if He is the Head of the Church, His Body also has Authority.

How can you separate the Body from the Head?
You can't!
---Nikki on 4/9/13


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I'm okay, your okay. Tolerance.
---born on 4/9/13


I does seem like MarkV is always in the center of "not getting along with others". Always in the center of his own self-righteousness, grand-standing on every blog here believing he is bringing Glory to God.

MarkV, is it possible to read any subject here that you aren't the know it all, 'do as I say, not as I do' example?
---Anonymous on 4/9/13


The question was. "Why can't we all get along". It didn't ask to "demonstrate here" WHY we can't. The remaining 5999 + blogs are for that.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/13


Cluny, sis. Darline is correct. The Eastern Orthodox and Catholics are almost the same? Both stay firm in the lies taught to both of you, no matter what God says. What happens then is if the beliefs held by the Eastern Orthodox are false, all go to hell. You know why? Because all of you support your denomination not the Truth. You guys don't care about the Truth, you care about your denominational church more. The same is true about Catholics, they even suggest the word of God is not authority. Their own traditions over rule God's Word. They have replaced Christ as the Head of the Church. It will be hard to find an idol worshipper in heaven.
That is why you answer as you do, with much pride for your own denominational church not the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 4/9/13


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Proverbs 9:8

8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Sometimes we find out the hard way just who the scorners are, and who the wise men are.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/13


\\"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."\\

That's why I don't believe you, christan.

**Cluny you are going to be in shock when you get to heaven and see that most of those who are there are not Orthodox.
---Darlene_1 on 4/8/13**

What makes you think you are right, Darlene? Are you saying there are people with FALSE beliefs in heaven, and they continue to hold these false beliefs there??

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/8/13


Many quote Scriptures from the epistles citing about love one another and be gentle without discerning that Paul, Peter and John were writing particularly to the Christians who have come to the faith by grace.

Only when doctrinal issues comes into play that John warns the Christian, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

Majority of the time here in CN, it's always about doctrinal issues that people rear their ugly heads. There's only One Holy Spirit that's of God and He most definitely doesn't reside in everyone here or in the world. Christ didn't come to bring peace to the world but a sword.
---christan on 4/8/13


I hear you loud n clear Jasheradan, speaking the truth of God in love towards one another with a spirit of meekness & humility.
---Leon on 4/8/13


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And then there are the Catholics who want to promote their non-biblical belief system, thinking that some authority was given only to them by Christ.
So what do we do, dispute their claims and hopefully keep other from falling into their pits.--e.lee7537 on 4/8/13

How about using Scriptures to Catholic's claims instead of your opinions and attacks.
---Nikki on 4/8/13


Cluny you are going to be in shock when you get to heaven and see that most of those who are there are not Orthodox.
---Darlene_1 on 4/8/13


'If you just set out to be liked ... you would achieve nothing!'

Margaret Thatcher
---kathr4453 on 4/8/13


Leon,

Aren't we getting along exactly the way things are supposed to be?

It is for God's glory in the end and not according to us now.
---aka on 4/8/13


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There is a way to disagree with someone without insulting their intelligence or twisting their words. It takes a meek and lowly heart, just as our God and Savior, Jesus Christ has.

The day of judgment is NOT here yet. Fear tactics do not produce a true disciple of Christ. They only produce fruitless "Christians".

There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear: because fear has torment. He that fears is not made perfect in love--1 John 4:18

God did not send his son into the world to condemn it, but yet many of his followers seem to think its their job. How is that the same Spirit?
---Jasheradan on 4/8/13


there are those on this and other forums that seek only to promote their particular brand of Christianity that has little or no support in either the Bible or in church history.

For instance, all the Adventist can do is honk the Jewish Sabbath believing that one must obey that commandment for ones salvation.

And then there are the Catholics who want to promote their non-biblical belief system, thinking that some authority was given only to them by Christ.

So what do we do, dispute their claims and hopefully keep other from falling into their pits.
---e.lee7537 on 4/8/13


Leon, That's a very good question. I think part of the difficulty is when you know that you know that someone is proclaiming falsehoods and false doctrines, and you realize how dangerous it is, that, you just can't treat their poisonous words as if they were chatting about the latest golf tournament on T.V. We're talking about the Eternal Destiny of human souls. So, I guess it comes down to what is meant by "get along". Is that being "sweet and smiley" in the face of Heresies? Or, lol. I don't know. maybe you should clarify more your question. It is a good one!
---Gordon on 4/8/13


\\It would do us all good to yield ourselves to the Father's Grace and empowerment to "Become complete, be of good comfort, of one mind, [and to] live in peace.\\

If this happened, everyone here would become Orthodox.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/8/13


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Very good Josef! (Lk. 18:27 & Ro. 12:18) Also, let's "add" Phil. 4:13. :)

Amen JackB!
---Leon on 4/8/13


Leon the answer is conflicting personalities and dispositions. It would do us all good to yield ourselves to the Father's Grace and empowerment to "Become complete, be of good comfort, of one mind, [and to] live in peace. And the God of love and peace will be with [us]." Therefore we are admonished to "Pursue peace with all [people], and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:" We are also instructed that "If it is possible, as much as depends on [us], live peaceably with all men." And with the Holy Spirits presence within "If [we] can believe, all things [are] possible to him who believes." For "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."
---Josef on 4/8/13


(Matthew 5:9)
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God

(Romans 12:18)
If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

(Colossians 2:16,17)
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.
---JackB on 4/8/13


Christan, here I can truly say this is truth.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/13


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Leon, from the time of Cain and Abel, the lost have always hated the Righteous, and have set out to murder those who are. And although it was God's plan from before the foundation of the world that Jesus would suffer and die, we need to remember it was for envy AKA hate that he was crucified by man.

Paul, Peter, and millions of others have been murdered for their faith.

But murder takes on many forms, and "hatred "spoken openly to others is murder.

How can you want all to get along when you have spoken words of hatred here to others, and then want to play the victim ?

I'm sure you will respond to me here and give that perfect example of what I am talking about.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/13


There is how to get along > "with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love," (Ephesians 4:2)

"Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." (1 Corinthians 1:10) This was written to the Corinthians. So, if this could be expected of the Corinthians, it is easily possible with God, with all of us.

But there are people who are comparing themselves with others of the same feather, and agreeing with others who are only like themselves > 2 Corinthians 10:12, Galatians 4:17.
---willie_c: on 4/8/13


"Why can't we all just get along! :)"

Are those words even Scriptural to begin with? You'll never find such a teaching but rather this is what Christ taught:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36

Your words are the very words of what theologians classify as one of a "compromiser". If you really love Christ, you will harken unto His words and repent.
---christan on 4/7/13


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