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Secrets Of The East

Leonardo da Vinci made the secrets of the East the subject of his Masterpieces such as the Last Supper and Mona Lisa. What was the Secret of the East which the Knights Templar protected?

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Joey roy: Let's recap.

Q. Are YOU a Muslim?

A. Jerry, Bravo! I have no answer

Q. What? No answers to my questions?

A. Sometimes silence is an answer with power.


And sometimes (such as in this case) silence is an admission of guilt.


---jerry6593 on 5/4/13


The fact that Leonardo da Vinci was familiar with the East as well as the clashing concepts of god including that of Babylon is very clear from his notebooks. He also practiced mirror-writing which is a secret eastern concept. Da Vinci's depiction of The Last Supper in the dining hall of a convent in Milan was completed in 1500 and was released for the public. It was after Vasco de Gama landed in the East. There the secrets started unveiling.
---Joseph_ROY on 5/4/13


\\I have a feeling you feel the same way but you just want to stir up trouble and argue. it makes you look so intelligent.
---shira4368 on 5/3/13\\

You don't seem to be able to grasp one or both of the following things:

1. That there are Arabic Christians.

2. That Arabic speaking Christians used "Allah", cognate of the Hebrew word EL, for the Christian God of the Bible centuries before Mahomet.

Which are you having trouble wrapping your mind around?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/4/13


cluny, oh yes you are correct. you may find a handful who believe the way you do. when terriorist do their dirty deed they always call the name "alla". ft hood shooter, 9-11 killers especially these as they come to my memory everytime I hear "alla". I have a feeling you feel the same way but you just want to stir up trouble and argue. it makes you look so intelligent.
---shira4368 on 5/3/13


Shira, Cluny is just trying to tell you that Allah is just another form of way a group of Christians and Muslims call God.

We call HIM God, Jesus, Emmanuel, Yahweh and many other type of Title and meanings.

Muslims and Jews have a different opinion of God than us since we believe in the Trinity.
They do not think Jesus is God as we do.

All 3 of us believe in the book of Genesis.
Abraham is literally their (Muslims and Jews) father and our (Christians) spiritual father.
Some might find this hard to accept, but facts are facts.
---Nikki on 5/3/13




\\ I don't care and I don't think other Christians do either.
---shira4368 on 5/3/13\\

Arabic speaking Christians DO.

You don't seem to be able to absorb the simple fact that "Allah" is the Arabic word for God, used by Arabic Christians for centuries before Mahomet and mahometanism.

But I've noticed you don't like to have to deal with things you never knew before. This is not the only example.

Maybe you have trouble realizing that there are Arabic Christians?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/3/13


cluny you are right we are a separate people. if you want to worship alla, you just go right ahead. it won't bother me one bit but we will not ever see you as Christian. remember the appearance of evil? how many people do you know that are concerned where alla came from? I don't care and I don't think other Christians do either.
---shira4368 on 5/3/13


\\my God is not "alla"\\

But ALLAH is precisely the word used by Arabic-speaking Christians even today.

\\I stand by that. to modern society alla is muslim god....period.
---shira4368 on 5/1/13
\\

Only to your limited little circle.

I go to a church filled with Arabic-speaking Christians, including our priest and his wife. Every Sunday we sing the Trisagion in English, Greek, and Arablic, which includes the world "Qudusson Allah....."

shira, Christianity is bigger than what you have experienced. And there were Arabic speaking Christians before there was a KJV or even Protestants.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/3/13


is it the name that is the issue?
What does the name Allah mean?

If you lived in the smae house with your mother and a man whom you though was your father, and you called him daddy, when you met you real father would you not also all him daddy?

Same think with the name Allah, it was given to a god whom they though was the creator God, when they were introduced to the real creator God, the God of Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, and Abraham, they changed Gods but no need to change names. the name already meant creator God
---francis on 5/3/13


Allah is a false god. the God of heaven is Holy.
---shira4368 on 5/2/13

Acts 17:23 I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein

Lets say for arguement sake, the called the unknown God ALlah, now that Paul has declared who this God is, shoudl they change gis name?


Francis: If Allah were the true Creator God, then Muslims would keep the seventh-day Sabbath day holy.
---jerry6593 on 5/3/13
Very interesting statement.
From this we can safely conclude that only the sabbath kepers worship Jehovah. ALl else worship false gods. hhmm O.K.
---francis on 5/3/13




francis, God's name has a meaning with everything He is called in the bible. I do believe He has appr 350 names. and by the way, my God is not "alla". there is not even a hint of similarity. you can use any language but in today, alla is a false god. the God of heaven is Holy.
---shira4368 on 5/2/13


Jerry, Sometimes silence is an answer with power. When someone does not answer directly, it could mean the question does not deserve it or else the simple answer may hurt the questioner. I respect you. thou shall not kill, thou shall not bear false witness, love thy neighbour as thyself. Ask more!
---Joseph_ROY on 5/2/13


Francis, you are perfectly right, that is what is happening all around. To overcome all these we need a re-reading of the Scriptures from the very original sources with the mind of the authors.
---Joseph_ROY on 5/2/13


Joey roy: What? No answers to my questions?



Francis: If Allah were the true Creator God, then Muslims would keep the seventh-day Sabbath day holy. But they do not. Just as the Catholics chose their own worship day, so too have the Muslims chosen their own day - Friday.



---jerry6593 on 5/3/13


Muhamed took parts of the Bible to crate his god.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/2/13

Could we not also say the sxact same thing about every other denomination?
---francis on 5/2/13


Exo 32:4 And he received [them] at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These [be] thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
--You don't change names you forsake the false god for the One True God.
---micha9344 on 5/2/13


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StrongAxe: Thanks for your explanation of the Hebrew & Arabic words for God(i have stored this). May be you could shed some light on the name of Mohammed's father Abdullahi. The meaning of his name confuses many and leads them to conclude that Mohammed's Allah is the idol-god that his father worshipped.
---Adetunji on 5/2/13


---shira4368 on 5/2/13
God has no names, only attributes:
Exodus 34:6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

So a group of people many years ago, in search for the true creator, names a false god Allah, ( creator god) once the true creator God is known to them, what should they switch the name to:

Is not the God of abraham the creator God ( allah)
---francis on 5/2/13


The Muslim god Allah is supposed to be as they believe and from the Quran the same as the GOD of the Bible. But they are not the same. For the Bible portrays the loving caring GOD of the Bible who offers grace to all.

Muhamed took parts of the Bible to crate his god. So while we know it is not the same GOD. We should work with those who do not understand this. Rmeber how Paul worked. Taking people where they were at and showing the truth about JESUS. Muslims believe in a different JESUS. We need to love and show them the real JESUS.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/2/13


francis, why do you insist alla be equal with God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? the God of heaven is the only true God. you aint dumb enough to think muslim god is the God of heaven are you? the two are opposite ends of believability. muslims all believe in the killing of Christians so how can it be the same God. I have part of the Koran and what I read has nothing to do with salvation. I will say if Christians would be as vocal as muslims, God would be proud of us and send more blessings than we could count.
---shira4368 on 5/2/13


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Joey roy:

Q. Are YOU a Muslim?

A. Jerry, Bravo! I have no answer


When someone refuses to answer a direct question, it is usually because they have something to hide. I have more questions.

Do you hate Jews?

Do you find terrorist acts acceptable for your cause?

Is lying acceptable in support of your cause?

Do you have answers for these?


---jerry6593 on 5/2/13


Strong Axe, you are perfectly right. There is another term which preceded the Elohim, that is "Eli-Um".
---Joseph_ROY on 5/2/13


Francis, Addressing God as God of Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob started after putting the Bible into words in B.C. 1000. After the experience of Moses in the burning bush, that addressing itself reveals "living God" :"Allah" or "Ullah". Genesis chapter one reveals God the creator with his word, not just a creator or maker who produces. Allah is the creator by his word. It is that word which took flesh by the action of the Spirit.
---Joseph_ROY on 5/2/13


Joseph_ROY:

The Hebrew word for "god" (Eloah) uses the letters Aleph, Lamed, He. The Arabic word for "god" (Allah) uses the letters Alif, Lam, Ha - the same corresponding letters in both languages. The Hebrew word is used for lower-case "god", and is changed to the plural form (Elohim) for upper-case "God". The Arabic word is used for both "god" and "God". The two words are clearly very closely related.
---StrongAxe on 5/1/13


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Since all are the children of Noah, it would stand that their history would be passed down, in whatever form, however corrupted through the ages. But the One that has always been there gave this record (Genesis) to Moses directly. Why would there not be similarities almost to the point of exactness?
---micha9344 on 5/1/13


The term Allah did not originate in Arabic. It is an Aramac word. It is written as your picture shows. O.K.
---Joseph_ROY on 5/1/13
good for you kiddo

And was this god allah always the God of Abraham, Jssac and Jacob, or was the creater God thought to be another god at that time?

This, as you know is the root of the problem, the switching fo god/ God, without the switching fo the name of the god
---francis on 5/1/13


Jerry, Bravo! I have no answer provided the P.A. of Moses or his linguistic translator is providing the information! Please go through Atrakhasis and Enki and Ninmac after reading genesis.
---Joseph_ROY on 5/1/13


Francis, draw a simple picture of a wave starting from your right to the left. Now you know how the letter "L" got into the alphabet. Draw another wave on its opposite. Now you have two "L"s. In Arabic the "L" is called "Lam". The Arabic word for "Allah" consists of "Alif-Lam". In ancient Aramaic two "La"s make the term Allah. The term Allah did not originate in Arabic. It is an Aramac word. It is written as your picture shows. O.K.
---Joseph_ROY on 5/1/13


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Joey roy: "Jerry, Elohim refers to God as mother and Yehovah signifies king."


BUMPF!!!

You make up the most ridiculous garbage. Why do you refuse to admit that you are a Muslim? Are you ashamed of your religion or of your demigod allah?



---jerry6593 on 5/1/13


cluny I am not as brilliant as you but it seems to me that the meaning of alla is muslim god.he is a false god. what I said was even a false god shouldn't teach murder. I stand by that. to modern society alla is muslim god....period.
---shira4368 on 5/1/13


Allah was originally the name given to an infedel/ heathen or pagan god, called the creator god.

It would stand to reason that when the real God is known, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, that the name Allah: creator God should be retained.
---francis on 4/28/1
---francis on 4/30/13


\\Paganus refers to civilized man or city man.\\

WRONG AGAIN!!!

Pagan referred to those living in the RURAL areas, not to city dwellers.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/30/13


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Francis, the word pagan does not have a very ancient origin. the term Paganus refers to civilized man or city man. You mean to say that the concept of God as Allah originated from the ancient city civilization?
---Joseph_ROY on 4/30/13


Jerry, Elohim refers to God as mother and Yehovah signifies king. The same God revealed to Moses as the living God in the burning bush: "I am who am". The terms "Yehovah" and "Yahweh" are often not properly understood. The cave arts reveals a picture as follows: the Sun on top, below that a stick held in the hand of an old man standing at the left. It reads: " Yahovah Ur Vakka Aras"- Yahveh the king of Vakka.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/30/13


Joey Roy: "The Sumerian Scriptures from which many of the Genesis stories are taken"

BUMPF!

The Genesis account was given to Moses directly by inspiration from God. It had nothing to do with Babylonian paganism.

Why don't you just admit that you are a Muslim - here to attack Christian beliefs?


---jerry6593 on 4/30/13


Abraham was called from the East. The fifth law prescribes: "Thou shall not kill". Abraham wanted to sacrifice his son to God. God prevented him . there started the call. The sacrifice has to be performed, sacrifice of God's own son. Isaac was bought back by God as in a barter giving a lamb which Abraham offered in sacrifice. Thus Isaac or Isu Vakka became the prototype of God's own son. All these happened in the land of Abraham.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/30/13


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StrongAxe, I agee with all that you said. I add something which you did not say. Reading in reverse is not what the reader defines.It must be inbuilt deliberately to communicate the message. Besides many ancient words have that possibility. Probably those are the first ever written words. The concepts or Consonants must be chosen. That comes from the East with the ancient Scribes as you can see in the Book of Tobit. And written language was a secret.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/28/13


Jerry, the composition of the Bible was started just in 1000 B.C. during the time of Solomon. Exodus and Moses c.1500 B.C. Abraham was called in around 2100 B.c. The Sumerian Scriptures from which many of the Genesis stories are taken existed several thousands of years ago. the genealogy from the time of Adam takes us back to 4600 years. Don't worry Allah existed, exists and shall ever. He has no beginning, no end. Eternal, Almighty and omnicient. One and Only God and Father of all!
---Joseph_ROY on 4/29/13


//Well, I certainly didn't mean to get scatalogical.// cluny

certainly appropriate for this blog question.
---aka on 4/28/13


\\alla is a false god. his tomb still has bones. anyone who believes alla over the one true God from heaven is playing with fire. even a false god shouldn't teach hate and murder\\

shira, the following things have been explained to you before.

1. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for "God." It's a cognate of the Hebrew El, and is used by Arabic speaking Christians, such as Maronites and Melkites.

2. It is the tomb of MAHOMET, not Allah, that's in Medina.

Why do you still confuse Mahomet and Allah?

BTW, the mahometan beliefs about Mahomet do NOT parallel Christian beliefs about Jesus.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/28/13


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Allah was originally the name given to a pagan god, called the creator god.

It would stand to reason that when the real God is known, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, that the name Allah: creator God should be retained.
---francis on 4/28/13


Name of God! I have given sufficient information about the different names for God. you seem to be ill informed, may be due to hatred which is not Christian. It amounts to arrogance to use the name of God without reverence. About my religion if you do not get it ferom the Post you guess!
---Joseph_ROY on 4/28/13


alla is a false god. his tomb still has bones. anyone who believes alla over the one true God from heaven is playing with fire. even a false god shouldn't teach hate and murder.
---shira4368 on 4/27/13


Joe roy: "The name which either god revealed to man or man gave for god (not possible)was "Allah"."

Bumpf!!!

You must be reading from your koran. The name given for God in the Bible (Exo 20:7) is Jehovah Elohim - The Lord your God!


Come clean Joe. You're a Muslim, aren't you?



---jerry6593 on 4/26/13


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Joesph_ROY:

You said: The vowels are used as and when needed. Eden has "Da" and "Na". The meaning is to be found by reading in reverse. It becomes "Ind" which signifies country. And "Ind" is in the East!

ALL Semitic languages (also Hebrew, Arabic, Phoenecian) write just consonsnts, and right-to-left. Only later did the Greeks switch to left-to-right. So it's only a matter of "reading in reverse" if you pre-suppose modern sensibilities.

Also, written language came long after spoken language, so names existed long before there were symbols for them, so unless people spoke backwards too, any erroneous backwards reading would be irrelevant.
---StrongAxe on 4/25/13


Where is the East? What is there to the East? And Abraham stayed on in the East as he had to send away his sons of concubines towards the west.He was called by God in the 21st century B.C.Genesis 11:14 reminds that men from the East have settled down in Shinar and they used burned bricks and mortar to build cities and towers. Later Hammurabi of Babylon received the law from the songods of the East.Similarly the Pharaos of Egypt were known as the songods from the East. Thus East the land associated with the Sun was also linked to God as well as the law of the ancient world.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/24/13


Gen 25:6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.
Gen 14:13a And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew ...
There are more sons of Eber out there than one realizes.
The problem is not what you think God's name is, it is what do you call His Son.
Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And how will you respond?
Da Vinci is not the man to be worshipped.
---micha9344 on 4/24/13


One more word for my God. The second Commandment hinges on god as Allah. "Thou shall not take his name". The name which either god revealed to man or man gave for god (not possible)was "Allah". The laws are often given with the mention of consequence. The second which is part of the first is preserved with consequence adding the personal possessive pronoun "my" to it. ..."My God" or "Na Alla". The term "Na" refers to "the ruler". What will be the consequence if you misappropriate his name? Thou shall not! The law is clearly emphatic!
---Joseph_ROY on 4/23/13


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And are you a member of the Priory of Zion, too, Joseph_ROY?

According to HOLY BLOOD, HOLY GRAIL, Jesus faked His death and Resurrection.

If this is true, what's so holy about the blood line of a fraud?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/23/13


Thank you all for the Bump without the fat. I still hold on to my statement: Da Vinci made the secrets of the East the subjuct of his masterpieces namely The Last Supper and Mona Lisa. I also agree with the observation of historical inaccuracies. I can prove every bit of what I said.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/23/13


Understanding through the phonetic twist! The Stone Henge at Auxhury reveals an ancient Sun Observatory or an yearly calendar. The figures of the horse shoe and the number eight are significant. Horseshoe stands for the letter "P". Both together represent the "Lion and the virgin" in the solstice. To turn it into numbers it would mean 13. The number 3 has "Tha" and "R" . Add "P" and you have "thoorp". It is the technique of transliteration or crossing across the language. Thoorp is East.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/23/13


\\The meaning is to be found by reading in reverse. It becomes "Ind" which signifies country. And "Ind" is in the East!
---Joseph_ROY on 4/22/13\\

And your name spelled backwards is YOR_hpesoj. Mine spelled backwards is Ynulc. So what?

If God has something to tell us in His word, He is straighforward about it. We don't have to spell Hebrew or Greek words backwards to see what he's getting it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/23/13


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\\used them as they would toilet tissue or "bum fodder".
---aka on 4/22/13\\

Well, I certainly didn't mean to get scatalogical.

I was simply using "bumpf" as a synonym for "nonsense."

Glory to Jesus Christ
---Cluny on 4/23/13


Joe Roy: BUMPF!!!

Allah is something barbaric terrorists shout when they commit mass murder of innocent people. We Americans are sick of pandering to you people who don't agree with our concept of religious freedom, and seek to destroy us by satanic acts of cowardice. The problem is not with a few radicalized nut cases, but rather with the entire defective religion itself. It (Islam) is founded solely on the writings of a murderous, psychotic pedophile who commands that any of us who don't accept his drivel be killed. To this, we Americans say:

BUMPF!!!!!



---jerry6593 on 4/23/13


The Lord God planted a garden in Eden- in the East. Wonderful! The ancient Aramac (it was the Aramac people who reclaimed the Tigris valley and also migrated to Egypt)is a consonant dominated language. The vowels are used as and when needed. Eden has "Da" and "Na". The meaning is to be found by reading in reverse. It becomes "Ind" which signifies country. And "Ind" is in the East!
---Joseph_ROY on 4/22/13


bumpf

Useless printed instuctions and manuals.

Originated in England during World War II when English soldiers were overwhelmed with unnecessary printed materials and used them as they would toilet tissue or "bum fodder".
---aka on 4/22/13


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Joe_Roy: This blog is bumpf (thanks, Cluny) - just like your imaginary friend, Allah.
---jerry6593 on 4/22/13


"bumpf"
whatever "bumpf" is
---francis on 4/21/13


More bumpf.
---Cluny on 4/20/13

This statement is bumpf.
---Cluny on 4/16/13

Well the votes are in: BUMPF
---francis on 4/22/13


Where is the East? Where sun shines! The Magi came from the East. Also as already mentioned-in Isaiah 43:5, Ezekiel 43:2 and Rev. 16:12. In 120 B.C. the Greeks defeated the Sunka Emperor Pushya Mitra. A close look at the Book nof Judith will tell that. During the Sunka rule the Kumran teachers -the remnants migrated to Palestine. During Greek Satrapi Jesus was born and the Magi visited him from the East.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/22/13


joseph roy, islam is a religion that hates Christians. no matter how hard you try you will never be able to show any different. your god and my God are nothing the same. there is only one true God and it is the Holy God in heaven. muslims are commanded to kill everyone who does not convert to islam. you need to get saved and live for the Lord of heaven.
---shira4368 on 4/22/13


\\Jesus on the Cross cried "Lama\\

More bumpf.

That is not a name for God in any language whatsoever. Certainly not in Hebrew or Aramaic.

The Arabic word for God, "Allah," is used by Arabic Christians. It is clearly a cognate of the Hebrew EL and the Syriac ALOHO.

Joseph_ROY, it's better to be silent and thought ignorant than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/22/13


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Allah, My God. It is the most holy name of God. God has different names such as father, mother, king and the living one. Allah is the term unspeakable. Eli is used instead. Ab-Eli is Father God. Jesus on the Cross cried "Lama" - Mother Allah god as mother. The term "Yehovah or Yahweh represents God as "King". In the burning Bush God was revealed as "I am" . It is a veriation of "Alla" - or to be. The concept of Allah reveals the living one- derived from the life giving wave in the waters. The english term "Lord" reveals "God as shelter"- Allah -Ud or home.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/22/13


Joe_Roy: This blog is bumpf (thanks, Cluny) - just like your imaginary friend, Allah.




---jerry6593 on 4/22/13


---Joseph_ROY on 4/21/13

"bumpf"
whatever "bumpf" is
---francis on 4/21/13


Did parents of Jesus go to Bethlehem because of Scriptural necessity? ... because the Prophets told? They were not natives and also belonged to David's family. Neither archaeologists nor the Roman records demarcate a place "Nazareth" as existing before Christ. It is only in the Bible. Bible uses certain coded and figurative expressions which do not alter the message but confirm it. There is no proof Jesus had a carpentary shop. No archaeological bits of broken chairs found connected with him! The marriage feast of Cana reveals for the first time where was the native place of Jesus. It was in the East.
---Joseph_ROY on 4/21/13


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I thought this was a better blog, to explore what the BIBLE has to say about God, and the east

Now I see that it's intention is "bumpf"
whatever "bumpf" is
---francis on 4/20/13


\\But the term East originated from an Aramaic term "thoorp".\\

Indo-European and Semitic languages are not related, except by the occasional borrowings.

There is no phonemic shift that can turn "thoorp" into "east."

More bumpf.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/20/13


Cluny: I am in complete agreement with you. I don't know what "bumpf" is, but I don't think it's good. This is what happens with a failed educational system and a Hollywood-influenced culture. Absolute trash!


---jerry6593 on 4/20/13


East? There seems to have a problem of understanding the term. Of course. the dictionary is there. Also the sun. But the term East originated from an Aramaic term "thoorp". As usual the meaning is to be found in the term itself. It refers to the "land of God"- Here the term for God is "author of Scriptures".
---Joseph_ROY on 4/20/13


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---Joseph_ROY on 4/18/13

NO Jesus did not go to the east ( China and so on)

after Egypt until his ministry the bible says this:


Luke 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.

he was known as a carpenter
Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
---francis on 4/20/13


\\ Why Jesus was born in Bethlehem? \\

Because it was prophecied.

\\Why was he called man of Nazareth? \\

Because He was raised in Nazareth.

\\Where did he disappear after birth? \\

Egypt and then Nazareth.

\\His parents who were on the way, came back and took him. Why?\\

It's in Luke 2. Look it up.

\\ Where did he spend most of his life? \\

If you mean until He began His public ministry, mostly in the Carpenter shop in Jerusalem.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/19/13


A problem is solved neither by ducking it nor by denying. We must face it. Why Jesus was born in Bethlehem? Why was he called man of Nazareth? Where did he disappear after birth? His parents who were on the way, came back and took him. Why? Where did he spend most of his life? What was the sign of Cana? Secrets of the East!
---Joseph_ROY on 4/18/13


What is to the east? > where the sun rises.

Now, we in Jesus have "the morning star" (2 Peter 1:19) in our hearts. The sun is a star, the star that we see in the morning.

Jesus says, "the kingdom of God is within you," in Luke 17:21. So, now the kingdom is not about some direction in geography or a day of the week, but how we are directed in our hearts "into the love of God and into the patience of Christ." (in 2 Thessalonians 3:5), so we are resting in Jesus Himself as our day star shining love (c: "in our hearts" (Romans 5:5).
---willie_c: on 4/18/13


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Mystic or mystery?

There are a lot mentioned in the bible concerning thelove, power, and glory of God associated with the east

Ezekiel 46:1 Thus saith the Lord GOD, The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days, but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

Ezekiel 46:3 Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons.
---francis on 4/16/13


Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden,

Psalms 48:7 Thou breakest the ships of Tarshish with an east wind.

Isaiah 27:8 he stayeth his rough wind in the day of the east wind

Isaiah 43:5 I will bring thy seed from the east,

Ezekiel 10:19 every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD'S house,

Ezekiel 11:23 And the glory of the LORD.. stood upon.. the east side of the city.

Ezekiel 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east:

Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east,

Revelation 16:12 the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
---francis on 4/16/13


\\Leonardo da Vinci made the secrets of the East the subject of his Masterpieces such as the Last Supper and Mona Lisa.\\

This statement is bumpf.

Don't waste your time or energy worrying about it.

The only thing the Templars protected were pilgrims to Jerusalem.

BTW--there are major historical errors in both the movie and novel DA VINCI CODE.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/16/13


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