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In our 21st century there are reports of people being shot down daily. Does the Bible also report such shootings? :)

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I'm a soldier bound for glory, I'm a soldier yes I am. put on the whole armour of God. ephesians 6:13-18
---shira4368 on 5/27/13


Trav: My left brain (associated with linear & analytical thought) & right brain (associated with creativity & emotion) agree with you. :) Yes, left & right hands, like left & right sides of the brain, balance (support) each other. It's all about "balance"! One body part without another does indeed create a disabling situation or imbalance. (Eph. 4:16) But, working in unison gives the body the best opportunity to fire/SHOOT its best (most accurate & effective) SHOT at the enemy!
---Leon on 5/27/13


left handers are more accurate than right handers

Most saught after baseballl pitchers are left handers

most difficult fighters to beat are left handers

---francis on 5/26/13

But,.....without their right hand for balance none of the above is possible. It takes two hands for a balance.

Left hands like left side and right side brains balance.

5/5 For Aka:
2 Chronicles 4:8
He made also ten tables, and placed them in the temple, five on the right side, and five on the left. And he made an hundred basons of gold.
---Trav on 5/27/13


Interesting indeed Francis! Let's also consider Joe, Ben's big brother:

At age 17 Joe had two dreams that made his brothers plot his demise. In the 1st dream, Joe & his brothers gathered bundles of grain. Then, all of the grain bundles that had been prepared by the brothers gathered around Joseph's bundle & bowed down to it. In the 2nd dream, the sun (father), the moon (mother) & eleven stars (brothers) bowed down to Joe himself. When he told these two dreams (SHOT OFF HIS MOUTH) to his dad & brothers, his older brothers hated him for implying they'd be bowing down to him & he'd rule over them one day. They became jealous that their father would even consider Joe's words concerning his dreams. (Gen. 37:1-11)
---Leon on 5/27/13


I can't help wondering if Ben was left handed (a south paw)?
---Leon on 5/26/13

Interesting
---francis on 5/27/13




"...doesn't Benjamin mean son of the right hand?"
---francis on 5/26/13


Yes & Benjamin also means "son of the south, son of my old age". Unlike his other eleven brothers (born in Aram/Haran), Ben, was Jake's youngest son & he was born in Canaan, "south" of Haran.

I can't help wondering if Ben was left handed (a south paw)? Also, I wonder if Jake & tricky Uncle Laban (whose name means Whitey) shook "right" hands to seal the deal for him to wed Rachael? Furthermore, it seems like Jake saw Joe & Ben as his favorite (HOTSHOT) sons & "RIGHTFUL" heirs since Rachael (not Leah) was the love of his life?

---Leon on 5/26/13


Yes, Shira you are right!

In the spirit of being proud:

I AM BLESSED AND HAPPY TO BE CATHOLIC!

I just thought I would share that with you all on this Sunday afternoon on CN. :D
---Nikki on 5/26/13


Now, let me ask you, if we were both comrade soldiers in a life 'n' death battle situation, would it matter to you one bit if I were left handed?
---Leon on 5/26/13
Yes it would,
If it came down to throwing grenades yes

left handers are more accurate than right handers

Most saught after baseballl pitchers are left handers

most difficult fighters to beat are left handers
---francis on 5/26/13


Judges 3:15 But when the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, the LORD raised them up a deliverer, Ehud the son of Gera, a Benjamite, a man lefthanded: and by him the children of Israel sent a present unto Eglon the king of Moab.

Judges 20:16 Among all this people [there were] seven hundred chosen men lefthanded, every one could sling stones at an hair [breadth], and not miss.

what is the message here?
that the tribe of benjamin boasted many lefthanded warriers, when the name benjann means son of the right hand?

Do we always live up to expectations?
---francis on 5/26/13


Francis: National Left Hander's Day is August 13th. I, tongue in cheek, hold to the belief that all left hander's are true(ly) right handers. That's because, you guessed it, I'M LEFT HANDED! :)

Now, let me ask you, if we were both comrade soldiers in a life 'n' death battle situation, would it matter to you one bit if I were left handed? I wouldn't care one bit what hand(s) you used so long as you had my back as we together actively pursed the accomplishment of the mission set before us.

Consider this: As in organized sports, like baseball, boxing, etc., right handers have considerable difficulty when they have to face lefties. The same holds true in military combat.

God bless! :)
---Leon on 5/26/13




Saul's tribe (the Benjamites) were noted for their use of the bow.
---Leon on 5/25/13

HHHMM i would say they wee better known for being left heanded warriers

Judges 20:16 Among all this people [there were] seven hundred chosen men lefthanded, every one could sling stones at an hair [breadth], and not miss.

and does not benjamin mean son of the right hand?
---francis on 5/26/13


The bow & arrow predates recorded history. Its preceded only by the slingshot & thrown spear.

The numero uno big guy in Israel, King Saul, was an adept spear thrower. (1 Sam. 9:2 ~ 19:10) That was also a weapon used by Goliath.

Saul's tribe (the Benjamites) were noted for their use of the bow. They were armed with bows & arrows that were commonly used in warfare back then. They were ambidextrous. With either hand they could sling stones & shoot arrows. This was a huge advantage on the battlefield. (2 Chr. 14:8).

Why didn't Saul use his slingers & archers against Goliath & the Philistines? FEAR!!! Goliath had effectively used psychological warfare (fear) to strike TERROR in the hearts of Saul...
---Leon on 5/25/13


Again, thx Francis! :)
---Leon on 5/25/13
I thought about Saul, but Saul was only wounded by the arrow, he fell on his sword and died

So i was not sure
---francis on 5/25/13


Thanks Francis for jogging my memory about those two kings. Actually, I overlooked them as I was fixated on two other kings: Saul & Ahab.

King Saul, though shot by an arrow & severely wounded, might've died from his wounds eventually. However, we know he committed suicide to avoid being captured alive & abused/humiliated.

Bad King Ahab was shot by an arrow, as he fled the battle ground, & died as a result.

Ahab's son, bad King Jehoram, ironically was also shot & killed in battle by an arrow.

Good King Josiah (son of bad King Amon) was fatally shot, in the heat of battle, & killed.

Again, thx Francis! :)
---Leon on 5/25/13


Sis. Shira, thank you for your support. I know that answering here on line with the Truth was going to get people angry. It is the nature of man. They answer to their nature. I sure don't try to convert them. Only God can do that. But He does it through His Word. And not by the words of man when they try to add or take away from His Word with their own ideas. That was the only reason I answered here in the first place.
1. I know who the heretics are,
2. who doesn't understand and need help,
3. who doesn't study because God is not important to them.
4. who is right on the money on all things, by the answers they give. Thank you sister again, and peace to you.
---Mark_V. on 5/25/13


What two kings in the Bible were fatally SHOT in battle?
---Leon on 5/24/13

2 Chronicles 35:23 And the archers shot at king Josiah, and the king said to his servants, Have me away, for I am sore wounded


2 Kings 9:24 And Jehu drew a bow with his full strength, and smote Jehoram between his arms, and the arrow went out at his heart, and he sunk down in his chariot.
---francis on 5/24/13


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What two kings in the Bible were fatally SHOT in battle?
---Leon on 5/24/13


there is one thing about markv, he does not try to convert everyone like some here do and he is steadfast in his beliefs. I've heard many call him names and he is just defending himself. markv, I do the same. I don't care what others believe, this blog is not gonna please everyone. I know my doctrine and I won't ever change because of what francis or nikki or anyone says. they still have a right to believe what they want. they have the choice.
---shira4368 on 5/24/13


"...The story is one of my favorites on David. I remember my adrenal hair stood on end when it was pointed out & confirmed by reading...David...ran towards army/Goliath.

1Sam 17:48 it came to pass, when the Philistine arose, & came, & drew nigh to meet David, that David hastened, & ran toward the army to meet the Philistine.

Asking for this measure of faith .....GOD."
---Trav on 5/24/13


Trav: Yes, it's one of my favorite Bible stories also. I want to re-emphasis the people in Bible stories were very real folk, just like us. Many bloggers seem not to get the connection & equate Bible stories to just fairy tales, & that devilishly diminishes their faith in God's word (the Bible).
---Leon on 5/24/13


Think what you will about me. You've long ago shown me your true feelings though you tried very hard to mask it in deceit. I'm shaking the dust off of my feet regarding you. No mas!
---Leon on 5/21/13

We all have had our turn with V. Your answers/rebukes were appropriate, sincere, witnessed and hopefully helpful. The story is one of my favorites on David. I remember my adrenal hair stood on end when it was pointed out and confirmed by reading, late in my life that David....ran towards army / Goliath.

1Sam 17:48 it came to pass, when the Philistine arose, and came, and drew nigh to meet David, that David hastened, and ran toward the army to meet the Philistine.

Asking for this measure of faith .....GOD.
---Trav on 5/24/13


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"Leon, wasn't that Rosanna Rosanna Dana you are referring to on SNL?"
---kathr4453 on 5/22/13


No Kathr, it wasn't Rosanne Rosannadanna. But, with both Gilda Radner characters it was a crapSHOOT because anything could come tumbling out of the mouth of either character without a moments notice.

RR was a bawdy, street-wise New Yorker who loved to go on & on about this 'n' that. With her it was, "always something!" to SHOOT off her mouth about just for the sake of it. However, EL was an intellectual doofus who always over processed information & thereby misunderstood given subject matter as presented. She, like Mark, always went way out in left field desperately trying to answer questions. :)
---Leon on 5/23/13


Kathr, I was wondering when you were going to stop calling Nikki names, and come back to the one you started with. I don't feel like a victim at all. I feel blessed every single day for God is wonderful. You guys who call names, cannot help who you are. It's your nature.
As I can see you have not changed at all. You just change the people you want to argue against and get personal with them. It is always personal with most of you. You are given the truth, you reject it then start calling names at the person who gave you the Truth. The Truth brings two results, it convicts the heart of sin, and you don't like it, and other times it brings salvation when it comes in power and in the Holy Spirit (1 Thess. 1:4,5).
---Mark_V. on 5/23/13


Leon, wasn't that Rosanna Rosanna Dana you are referring to on SNL?
---kathr4453 on 5/22/13


Oh for Pete sakes Markv, always the poor victim. Let's get out the violin and Kleenex.

Can you possibly keep your self-righteous paranoia persecutions to yourself, as that IS the Christian way, and not bash people here who disagree with you, as those who do are picking on someone with the littlest feelings in the world.

You do your share of PICKING ON others. Act like a man, and not a woman for a change.
---kathr4453 on 5/22/13


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Leon, call me what you want, or what is in your heart, and do not be afraid to express your thoughts. But you have to get in line with the rest, like Kathr, Nana, francis, jerry, and a few I cannot think of now. Don't worry so much about what to say, I am using (Matt. 10:13,14) in this case with you. I have taken my peace back from you.
---Mark_V. on 5/22/13


Gee Markie, you're such an "ANGRY", self-centered little putz! :) You're always trying to correct others & never once have considered the possibility that you're the one who really needs correcting. You're that person who doesn't know that he doesn't know!

You chase your tail round 'n' round & expect others to do likewise. You don't want to reason Scripture with me & other bloggers like a Christian should. Instead, you want to dictate your legalistic confusion as if it were the very word of God .

Think what you will about me. You've long ago shown me your true feelings though you tried very hard to mask it in deceit. I'm shaking the dust off of my feet regarding you. No mas!
---Leon on 5/21/13


Leon, I can now see that you are not my brother in Christ. Here now you build a whole story about dogs to cover up your stupid statement. Your spirit is not right with God because you hold your anger on those who are trying to help you, to not be adding to Scripture what is not there. I tried to correct you, to warn you as Scripture warns,
if anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the book of life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." (Rev. 22:18-19)
Similar warnings are found in (Deut. 4:2: 12:32: Prov. 30:6: Jer. 26:2).
---Mark_V. on 5/21/13


Mark: You remind me of the character Emily Litella (played by the late comedian Gilda Radner) on the old Saturday Night Live TV show. You are always getting what is said horribly twisted. You're so funny. "Fleas" Mark, not "flies"! Never mind! :D

Have you not read 1 Sam. 17:8-11 whereas Goliath did a lot of "dog-like" barking that frightened Saul & his army. In 1 Sam. 17:43, Goliath ironically questioned the fact that he was a loud, aggressive, DOG of a man. He was furious that Saul would send a puny, "flea-like", little boy to fight (maybe bite) him. :) Later on we know his anger led to him literally loosing his head!

Legit according to who, you?! Very funny! :D
---Leon on 5/20/13


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"Leon, maybe David could not remove the stone in Goliath's head in order to save him, so instead decided to put him out of his misery by cutting his head off, as a jesture of kindness so that he would stop suffering.
Or, it could be that Goliah told him to go ahead and kill him because he was repented for going against God?"
---Mark_V. on 5/10/13

with all the bad, and sad news in the world it is nice to find someone with a good sense of humour

Thanks mark
---francis on 5/20/13


Leon, what does God allowing dogs to have flies have to do with David of the Bible? Did the story speak of dogs? Seems like the only response you wanted to put down was a dog. That is not very Christian of you. Did anyone online give you a story about God allowing dogs to have flies to try to disrespect you?

The two answers I gave were legit. We really don't know exactly what happened. Why does my answer deserve your remark? Have I given you a disrespectful response like the one you gave me? I have answered you kindly. What kind of a brother are you?
---Mark_V. on 5/20/13


"Leon, maybe David could not remove the stone in Goliath's head in order to save him, so instead decided to put him out of his misery by cutting his head off, as a jesture of kindness so that he would stop suffering.
Or, it could be that Goliah told him to go ahead and kill him because he was repented for going against God?"
---Mark_V. on 5/10/13


OR maybe that's why God allows a dog* to have fleas to do battle with, to take his mind off the fact that he's A DOG, or...

*1 Samuel 17:8-11, 43
---Leon on 5/19/13


"Leon, Thanks for breaking it [down] for me. Now I understand. Yes, I started off on CN lady like. Then, I picked up a weapon and started firing back to defend my faith. No excuses, I as well am guilty.

Passions are strong here on CN.
But, I LOVE IT!"
---Nikki on 5/12/13


You're welcome Nikki. Yes, passions strong here they are, but motives wrong oftentimes leaning strongly to the dark side they are too. Hmmm! :]
---Leon on 5/19/13


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Leon, Thanks for breaking it now for me. Now I understand.
Yes, I started off on CN lady like. Then, I picked up a weapon and started firing back to defend my faith. No excuses, I as well am guilty.

Passions are strong here on CN.
But, I LOVE IT!
---Nikki on 5/12/13


Nikki: No, I haven't read or heard of any such report. But, as with all reports, we must 1st consider the source & the agenda(s) of the reporters.

My focus here isn't so much on "gun violence" as it has been on highlighting a variety of other ways we humans daily SHOOT each other down like dogs. For example, as often seen on CN blogs, many of us rapid-fire shoot words (firey darts) from our hearts, out of our mouths, at each other in vicious attempts to silence (kill the influence of) those we disagree with. I'm guilty of firing back, in self-defense, at those who've fired (shot) darts at me. Nonetheless, I'm guilty! Now, that's not a very good report, is it? :/

Good question Nikki. Thanks for asking! :)
---Leon on 5/12/13


Leon, did you see the report that came out last week?

Deaths from guns, and shootings are at its lowest in decades.

Most people polled think it is higher because the way the Media spins the information.
---Nikki on 5/11/13


Leon, maybe David could not remove the stone in Goliath's head in order to save him, so instead decided to put him out of his misery by cutting his head off, as a jesture of kindness so that he would stop suffering.
Or, it could be that Goliah told him to go ahead and kill him because he was repented for going against God?
---Mark_V. on 5/10/13


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Bottomline: David "SHOT" & fatally (deadly) wounded Goliath causing the giant to die. A penetrating head injury, such as the one Goliath received (1 Sam. 17:49), can be caused by high-velocity projectiles (bullets or STONES) that drive bone fragments from a skull fracture into the brain.

In penetrating injury from high-velocity missiles, injuries may occur not only from initial laceration & crushing of brain tissue by the projectile but also from the subsequent cavitation. High-velocity objects create rotations & can create a shock wave that cause stretch injuries, forming a cavity that is three to four times greater in diameter than the missile itself.

It's no small thing to be STONED! :)
---Leon on 5/8/13


Aka, very good answers you gave. David's faith is what made him preservere.
---Mark_V. on 5/7/13


Aka: Good discussion, appreciate it ~ thx!!! :)

I didn't quote you verbatim because of the 125 word limit max. That's why I use ampersand, etc. Besides, everything you said is already posted here.

Okay, we both agree David wasn't crazy. I think, along with his abiding faith in God, he also used "God given" common sense to guide his steps. Either Goliath was already dead, or David could see he was near death & no apparent threat to him.

If Goliath was yet breathing, but totally incapacitated by his traumatic brain-injury, I believe David was compassionate enough to end his misery. But, again, I think the main reason he severed Goliath's head was to prove to the onlookers the giant was indeed dead.
---Leon on 5/5/13


leon,

you did not quote me entirely.

i don't think he was crazy either to take on Goliath or to stand on Goliath (dead or alive). that's why crazy is in quotes. it was you that said he would not be crazy enough.

i was saying the same faith that led him to take Goliath on is the same faith that would lead him to stand on him (dead or alive).

Jed was onto something...literary device.

plus, cutting off a head was not an act of mercy then, it was an action to make a most emphatic statement to his comrades and enemies.
---aka on 5/5/13


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"...Was he crazy enough to stand on the body if he saw the big guy was still alive...? NO! :)"
---Leon on 5/2/13


"really? he was "crazy" enough to take a stand, but not crazy enough to stand on him when he was down?..." [?!!!]
---aka on 5/3/13


1 Sam. 17:51 says David "stood upon" Goliath. I don't think he was crazy! I believe he had to stand on Goliath in order to access his sword. I believe David was sure he'd slain (SHOT DOWN) Goliath & knew the big guy wasn't getting up. Perhaps severing his head was also an act of mercy (coup de gras: a death blow) to end any possible suffering by ensuring Goliath was indeed dead.
---Leon on 5/4/13


//Actually, ...1 Sam. 17:49 says the stone sunk into his forehead. Sounds fatal (DEAD) to me!// leon

might be. doctors extract objects sunken into people's heads everyday in the er rooms across the world

//ACTUALLY... Goliath was dead after being "shot" in the forehead.//

actually, we can only speculate.

//David likely saw blood & brain matter oozing from the wound.//

more speculation

//Was he crazy enough to stand on the body if he saw the big guy was still alive (breathing)? NO! :)

really? he was "crazy" enough to take a stand, but not crazy enough to stand on him when he was down. anyway, if you read the preceding verses, you can see why he was "crazy".
---aka on 5/3/13


I want to reiterate, by his faith/trust in Almighty God, David "SHOT" Goliath dead with a rock that miraculously sunk into the giant's forehead. I think of the stone as a GOD-GUIDED MISSILE (or drone) that completely blew away/destroyed Goliath's reprobate mind. David cutting off of his head was simply proof positive (1 Sam. 17:51) of Goliath's demise for the benefit of warring onlookers.
---Leon on 5/3/13


"Classic Biblical format. The general followed by the precise. The general: hit him in the head with at stone and killed him. The precise: ran up to him and cut off his head with his own sword and slew him. The same pattern is throughout scripture."
---Jed on 5/2/13


True Jed & also throughout our daily lives. :)
---Leon on 5/3/13


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"So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him, but there was no sword in the hand of David. Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith."

Classic Biblical format. The general followed by the precise. The general: hit him in the head with at stone and killed him. The precise: ran up to him and cut off his head with his own sword and slew him. The same pattern is throughout scripture.
---Jed on 5/2/13


"Actually, the slingshot & rock didn't shoot Goliath dead. It merely knocked him down. The decapitation of his head by his own sword is what killed him." [?]
---Jed on 5/1/13


"Actually, Sam 17:50 Said David slew him without a sword (sling & stone) & v. 51 said he slew him with the sword when he cut off his head."
---aka on 5/1/13


ACTUALLY Jed, 1 Sam. 17:49 says the stone sunk into his forehead. Sounds fatal (DEAD) to me!

ACTUALLY aka, Goliath was dead after being "shot" in the forehead. David likely saw blood & brain matter oozing from the wound. Was he crazy enough to stand on the body if he saw the big guy was still alive (breathing)? NO! :)
---Leon on 5/2/13


ACTUALLY, CONTINUED: It's my understanding the stone did indeed kill Goliath before he was beheaded. The assembled armies of the Philistines & Jews all stood "at a distance" looking in amazement at Goliath lying face down in the dirt & waited for him to get up. They needed to know, for certain, that Goliath was dead. So, that's what the cutting off of his head was all about. For those who weren't convinced David "slew" Goliath with the stone, it was certain he "slew" the big guy with the sword. That finished the matter & left NO DOUBT in anyone's mind. The Jews celebrated & the Philistines were "SHOT" thru with terror (terror stricken). :)
---Leon on 5/2/13


//Actually, the slingshot and rock did not shoot Goliath dead. It merely knocked him down. The decapitation of his head by his own sword is what killed him. ---Jed on 5/1/131

Actually, Sam 17:50 Said David slew him without a sword (sling and stone) and v. 51 said he slew him with the sword when he cut off his heead.
---aka on 5/1/13


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Didn't David fire a rock from his arm in a sling that shot Goliath dead, right between the eyes? That's written in the Bible Jed! :)
---Leon on 5/1/13


Actually, the slingshot and rock did not shoot Goliath dead. It merely knocked him down. The decapitation of his head by his own sword is what killed him.
---Jed on 5/1/13


"...To my knowledge, there were no firearms during the days that the Bible was written."
---Jed on 4/30/13


Didn't David fire a rock from his arm in a sling that shot Goliath dead, right between the eyes? That's written in the Bible Jed! :)
---Leon on 5/1/13


Leon, you first said the shooting you were talking about and gave,

"Mark: We live in the 21st century. The media reports on daily global violence & slayings by dictatorial governments & rebel factions, insane religious zealots, military warfare.." and now you say:

"But, my question focuses specifically on "shootings", not killings any other way, e.g., I see a tongue-lashing also as being a form of shooting off one's mouth & thereby killing another's character & influence."
You specified one kind of shooting down, then you say the one you are talking about tongue lashing and killing off one's character. Which kind of shootings are you talking about?

---Mark_V. on 5/1/13


I must agree that with technology and instant news happenings, we are exposed to many murders. however, the blatant killings of kids and people going to churches and killing just for the fun of it. that is rampant in todays world. I remember America as being a place of safety. I remember walking all over Atlanta, Georgia as a young person. even worked as a teen in downtown and rode the bus home at llpm. I walked from bus stop to my home which was 2 blocks away. it was completely safe.
---shira4368 on 5/1/13


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In our 21st century there are reports of people being shot down daily. Does the Bible also report such shootings? :)

To my knowledge, there were no firearms during the days that the Bible was written.
---Jed on 4/30/13


"Leon, I don't see any difference now then hundreds of years ago. From the time sin entered the world, we have had killings...there is more people [now] and so more sin, so more killings of every kind. After Cain, I do not think there was a time when no one got killed."
---Mark_V. on 4/30/13


That speaks to my point Mark. Like King Solomon (Ecc. 1:9) said, "there's nothing new under the Sun." Different people then, but they were much like us today with the same sin nature.

But, my question focuses specifically on "shootings", not killings any other way, e.g., I see a tongue-lashing also as being a form of shooting off one's mouth & thereby killing another's character & influence.
---Leon on 4/30/13


Leon, I don't see any difference now then hundreds of years ago. From the time sin entered the world, we have had killings, as the world grew killing grew more, and now that we have millions upon millions of people, we now have many killings. So my answer is, there is more people and so more sin, so more killings of every kind. After Cain, I do not think there was a time when no one got killed.
---Mark_V. on 4/30/13


Mark: We live in the 21st century. The media reports on daily global violence & slayings by dictatorial governments & rebel factions, insane religious zealots, military warfare, organized crime & the domestic violence that leave people "shot" dead everywhere.

True, gun powder wasn't invented back in bible times. But, there has always been many ways to "shot down" people without the use of firearms. For example, stoning, the bow n arrow, blow darts, catapults & the sling shot.

The most famous Bible reported shooting was when David "shot" Goliath dead, right between the eyes. Apparently, no one told the big guy you don't bring just a spear, shield & sword to a slingshot fight. :)
---Leon on 4/29/13


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Leon, so what do you mean that in the 21st century people are being shot down daily? Are you talking about people getting murdered? Because all through history people have been shot down with some kind of weapon. Cain I killed his brother, though we don't know with what.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/13


Mark: That's a question for the Moderator since he/she chose the confusing title for this blog. I have no idea as to what that means either! I generally don't rely on the Mod titles, but instead only read the blogee's question(s).
---Leon on 4/27/13


Leon, the things that happen in the end times, and the question you asked you did not explain. Getting shot down, with the end times, What? People are have been shot down all through history if that is what you are talking about. What does it have to do with end times? Then you spoke of arrows, and explained what been shot down means, but nothing about end times. So what are you talking about?
1 in the end times, Christians shoot each other with guns?
2. people get attack because of race?
3. people are condemned for their faith?
4. people are called dogs the way Kathr does to those who oppose her?
5. in the end times, neighbors will shoot each other?
6. Believers from different religions shoot others down?
7. ETC.
---Mark_V. on 4/27/13


Blog Trolling: Unfortunately it happens a lot on CN blogs. I think of it as blog filabustering, by persons who oppose given views. It's a weapon blog trolls use to attack & exhaust the 75 post limit & defeat the blog purpose. It's their way of saying SHUT UP!

Blog Trolls: Some claim to be Christians, but are really Christians in name only. They post deliberately provocative messages to a blog with the intention of causing maximum disruption & arguments. Characteristically, blog trolls rarely post Blog Questions. Instead, like a virus or infectious disease, they attack the Questions of others.

God knows the evil in their hearts & one day they'll have to stand before Him & account for it.
---Leon on 4/27/13


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Sorry, but I am completely LOST. What are you all saying?
---Nikki on 4/23/13


Leon, who has shot you? Can you explain? If you mean that people throw rocks at others, that happens all the time. I get those many times. They do not hit anything. The bad words they say only give evidence of their fruits. What really does annoy me is when someone cuts in a perticular blog and begins to fight with someone concerning another blog, and ruins the one you are on, it gets lost and space is ruin. All they do is look for fights where ever they go that do not pertain to the blog question.
---Mark_V. on 4/23/13


Steveng: Thank you sir!!! This is a very tough/wild crowd! Maybe the moderator can require get them to check their rocks (SHOT: fired/slung from the arm) at the door before participating in CN blog discussions. Whew!!! :D
---Leon on 4/21/13


"...Why do people think that Leon is talking about being flamed online? He's talking about being shot. 'I shot an arrow into the air...' means being shot with an arrow. Shot is is defined as a discharge from a cannon, gun, bow, sling, etc. Is that why they call it a slingshot? Cluny, I'm surprised that you didn't catch that having an abundance of worldly knowledge..Most, if not all, denominational christians learn scripture in worldly ways, but rarely from the heart."
---Steveng on 4/21/13


DITTO!!!
---Leon on 4/21/13


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Does the Bible also report such shootings? :)
---Leon on 4/17/13
indirectly yes

Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,

2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
---francis on 4/21/13


Mark_V.: "Leon, people are not been shot down here on line, they are being exposed for the false teachings they bring."

Why do people think that Leon is talking about being flamed online? He's talking about being shot. "I shot an arrow into the air..." means being shot with an arrow. Shot is is defined as a disharge from a cannon, gun, bow, sling, etc. Is that why they call it a slingshot? Cluny, I'm surprised that you didn't catch that having an abundance of worldly knowledge.

Mark_V.: "...others here who are very well learned in Scripture catch their mistakes."

Most, if not all, denominational christians learn scripture in worldly ways, but rarely from the heart.
---Steveng on 4/21/13


Leon, people are not been shot down here on line, they are being exposed for the false teachings they bring. When someone brings a doctrine not taught in the Bible, others here who are very well learned in Scripture catch their mistakes. And the person takes it personal. They might feel like they got shot, but its all in their minds, unless someone gets personal and calls you names for no good reason, and even those insults can never hurt you.
---Mark_V. on 4/21/13


Shooting? Yes. with a different gun! Bake bread of stones for me, make more and more of money, forget not my tenth share , And first fruits of all your labor!
---Joseph_ROY on 4/20/13


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\\*"Hurled large stones"! Does not that speak of being "SHOT" out of (fired from) catapults?

---Leon on 4/18/13\\

Leon, elsewhere, you asked me to think outside the box for once.

And I'm going to ask you to simply THINK for once. (What you're in our outside of is immaterial for now.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/18/13


"While the plain answer to this question is obviously "no" (since there were no firearms during biblical times)..."
---StrongAxe on 4/17/13


True 'Axe, as Cluny has mentioned, there was no gunpowder. But, I submit for your considerations, the following:

2 Chr. 26:15, New Living Translation (2007)
"...he built structures on the walls of Jerusalem, designed by experts to protect those who SHOT arrows & hurled [slung, SHOT] large stones* from the towers & the corners of the wall...the LORD gave him marvelous help..."

*"Hurled large stones"! Does not that speak of being "SHOT" out of (fired from) catapults?

---Leon on 4/18/13


While the plain answer to this question is obviously "no" (since there were no firearms during biblical times), if one answers a similar question "were people being killed daily"?, the answer is more positive.

Jesus himself alluded to this Luke 13 - talking about people murdered by Pilate, and those killed by the falling Tower of Siloam. Persecution and accidental deaths are not new.
---StrongAxe on 4/17/13


Possibly, it could fit in with "wars and rumors of wars" (Matthew 24:6) > individuals shooting others is part of their personal wars, I suppose.

How about abortions? This is an act of one against one person war . . . of personal terrorism, to attack and kill an unborn person, in order to get your own demands met.

I notice how ones give such attention to some one person getting shot, but hardly a word about thousands and millions being killed in the womb.

So, do people really believe the unborn are people?

There is war for our attention . . . away from the unborn, and away from God.

Jesus says, "look up and lift up your heads," in Luke 21:28.
---willie_c: on 4/18/13


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Please try & think outside of the box Cluny. :)

Yeah Cliff, I've been shot at a few times here also. To date, the great swelling words some have fired out of their mouths were only noisy blanks.
---Leon on 4/18/13


Leon, Bloggers are always trying to shoot me down but their ammo is poor quality!
---1st_cliff on 4/17/13


Since gunpowder was unknown in the Middle East or Roman Empire at the time the Bible was written, why should the Bible mention it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/17/13


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