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I need to ask forgiveness from a person who has died. Does the Bible say I can do this?

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I need to ask forgiveness from a person who has died. Does the Bible say I can do this?

I needed to do that once. But the Bible forbids that we talk to the dead.

So I asked the Lord to relay a message to that person for me. Because I know that Jesus talks to that person in heaven.
---jan4378 on 4/29/13


The operative word is, CONFESS, not ask. If you have confessed your sin to God, like it states in John 1:9 (ASV) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness...., that is all you can do, in this case, since the person you sinned against is dead. This doesn't mean you will escape the consequences of your sin, but it does mean God has forgiven you of this sin.
---wivv on 4/28/13


Geraldine,

King David said:
Ps51:4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.

You cannot ask someone that has died for forgiveness, but you can ask forgiveness of the Lord. Ultimately it is him who you've sinned against, but don't worry:
1Jo1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
---trey on 4/26/13


"If you forgive your child, then you do not punish him. If you punish him, you expect him to pay for his misdeed." Cluny

"For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons, for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?"
Hebrews 12:6-9

See the difference between your words and the Bible?
---christan on 4/26/13


Cluny, if asking for forgiveness alone is sufficient then Christ didn't need to go to Calvary and die for the sins of His people, since according to you repentance is sufficient without consequence.

Repentance is when you acknowledge you have sinned against God, that's why you repent. And God has to teach you the vileness of sinning that's why He only chastises those whom He loves. He doesn't chastise those He hates. On the contrary, He destroys and punishes them.

And if you're His, have you not read, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Proverbs 13:24

Now you know how ungodly the philosophy of your comments?
---christan on 4/26/13




Geraldine, Christan is correct concerning confession. You have to remember that according to the Bible when we confess it is not to notify God of something He would not know otherwise, but to acknowledge our sinfulness and our dependence upon Him for mercy. Because through our conversion we are a forgiven people, but we must also be penitent people.
And be sure that all believers are partakers of the chastening of God when we do wrong. If a person is not a partaker he is illegitimate and not sons. (Heb. 12:7,8). The Father corrects us so that we can be partakers of His holiness.
---Mark_V. on 4/27/13


Christan, thank you for mentioning Romans 7. I read both Romans 7 and Romans 8 in The Message translation, and was saying Hallelujah out loud when I finished. NOW forgiveness has a new, truer meaning for me, as well as the wonders waiting for all Chrtistians!
---Geraldine on 4/26/13


\\ The reason a Christian repents is because he knows and believe that the Father indeed will forgive him on the account of His love towards His people but not before and after he's chastised by God. Make no mistake that every Christian will be chastised.\\

If you forgive your child, then you do not punish him.

If you punish him, you expect him to pay for his misdeed.

You can't have it both ways, christan.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/26/13


Cluny, I never doubted that my sins are forgiven and that's because of the "faith" that God has so mercifully and graciously given to me. That's the very reason why I repent everyday of my sins, since He brought me to His Son Jesus Christ.

The reason a Christian repents is because he knows and believe that the Father indeed will forgive him on the account of His love towards His people but not before and after he's chastised by God. Make no mistake that every Christian will be chastised.

The Christian life is one big struggle with sin the day God draws him to His Son, as taught and confirmed by Paul in Romans 7.
---christan on 4/26/13


christan, don't you believe that YOUR sins are forgiven?

And if someone doubts that his sins are forgiven, or will be forgiven, is he really saved?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/25/13




Hmmm..... haven't heard before that "YOU are required to believe that your sins are forgiven" in order that you have salvation.

Isn't it taught in the Scriptures that it's because of faith in Jesus Christ is what saves the sinner? And this faith according to Scriptures must be a gift from God so that when the sinner repents, it most definitely pleases God.

You see, repentance doesn't save the sinner, for the Jews, other denominations and the Muslims will tell you they too repent to God. So are they saved? Most definitely not. Again, only "faith in Jesus Christ" is what saves the sinner and neither of those believe in Christ, so how can they be saved?
---christan on 4/24/13


All these comments have helped tremendously! Cluny, the Catholic practice of confessionals would have helped me. Willie, yes I'm way older than seven now, your suggestion about helping the needy is very good.
---Geraldine on 4/23/13


Ah, the devil makes one feel comfortable in their sins saying past sins doesn't count (that's provided if Christ died for them to begin with). Is it as simple as "ask for forgiveness, leave it there"? Leave it where? Did God tell David to just "leave it there" after he repented? Only antinomians would say that.

Associating SIN with "no fishing"? That's the attitude of one who knows not what falling short of the glory of God even means. SIN to them is but just "no fishing". They mock at the life of a sinless man who died at Calvary that one may live eternally. Such is their attitude that His life is meaningless to them, for they say, "here, I'm leaving it there" and off I go.
---christan on 4/23/13


Geraldine, someone once said that scrupulosity is the spiritual manifestation of OCD. Martin Luther suffered from it. His confessor told him something I'm going to tell you.

When the Apostles' Creed says, "I believe in the forgiveness of sins," YOU are required to believe that your sins are forgiven.

Glory to Jesus Chirst!
---Cluny on 4/23/13


Just asked God forgiveness since the person is dead.
Any sin against each other is always a sin against God
---Nikki on 4/23/13


Geraldine, one of the tricks of the devil is to make us worry about old forgiven sins.

Ask God to forgive you and then LEAVE IT THERE. As Corrie ten Boom used to say, "No fishing!"

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/23/13


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Oh, Geraldine . . . so it was in the second grade. I suppose that was more than a few years ago, for you (c:

I used to be a bully. And now I see how I missed out on love, because I did not make friends with those people and stand up for them, as a best friend. I lost so much.

But, Geraldine > in Jesus > by His shed blood > "old things have passed away, behold, all things have become new," we have in 2 Corinthians 5:17.

And now we can do like Paul says for the person who once was a thief > Ephesians 4:28 > instead of stealing, give to the needy. Like this, now you can do good to those who are in need (c:
---willie_c: on 4/23/13


Geraldine, e.lee made a wonderful and truthful reference with regards to your situation which is so similar to that of King David, though not to the extent of murder and adultery. But nonetheless, sinful in the eyes of God.

The question is, does your heart feels convicted like that of King David or do you see that you have not sinned against God. Do read carefully what David said after he was rebuked by Nathan (God's prophet) after he sent Uriah to be killed in the front line and committed adultery with his wife:

"And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord." 2 Samuel 12:13 (the full account of David's evil act is recorded is in 2 Samuel 12)
---christan on 4/23/13


Well, first I would say, Geraldine, this is not only a doctrinal issue so we can be the "right" ones who can say others are wrong. This is personal, with God Himself and you and the one you maybe hurt. So, first we offer ourselves to You, God, for what You want to do, with us, please. "And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body, and be thankful" (Colossians 3:16) "casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:7) He knows how you have changed, in your heart, about whatever you have done. Make sure you have changed so you can't do whatever you did, to anyone else. God bless you (c:
---willie_c: on 4/23/13


Cluny, you're right, it was a her. In second grade I told a teacher a mentally challenged girl made a mess I actually made. It's haunted me ever since.
---Geraldine on 4/22/13


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The Bible doesn't say you can not do this.

Simply pray, "God, forgive me for sinning against X, and if it is in Your will, let her know I want her forgiveness, too."

And then LEAVE it there.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/22/13


In consideration of the fact that King David could not ask forgiveness from Uriah whom he had killed and from whom he stole his wife, David confessed that his sin was against God alone.

Ps 51:4 Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight, so that you may be justified in your words and blameless in your judgment.

So yes, you can be forgiven for your trespasses against another who had died.
---e.lee7537 on 4/22/13


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