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Suicide Your Eternity

A person will go to heaven or hell, if commit suicide?

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 ---Cherie on 4/29/13
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Family,thankfull view Bro.Stevengs 2 posts 4/29/2013 ( all respect to our brother)
we must keep a relationship prayer with Christ,He will never tell nobody your problems.No problem he cannot solve, he already involved,he knows & cares... learn alot on here,another person said it is NOT the unforgiveble sin, years ago a church they taught "commit suicide you go straight to hell!" from more study,now believe God be the just judge and knows state of mind,etc.. He mercifull
We cannot judge, NOT that someone drown themselves in sorrow,
God He will help you.amen.
---Lidia4796 on 8/8/13

---jerry6593 on 7/26/13,
Totally agree.
---Nana on 7/26/13

Fortunately, God is the Judge of who is saved and who is not. He knows the mental state of someone who commits suicide, and takes that into account, along with mercy, when making His decision. A person who lays down his life for someone else is noble (Jesus) - yet that act is technically suicide. God Himself assisted Samson in his suicide.

I think it is a mistake for Christians to judge themselves as fit for heaven and others as unfit. So let's leave the decision of who will be saved unto God - who is the Righteous and Merciful Judge.

---jerry6593 on 7/26/13

Hi,saw this blogg it stay in my mind.long ago
sad times,hurt alot, it came to my mind- even tried,God inHis mercy,spared my life!
I did repent, much to thank God for- when studied college coarse, I try for help co- dependents, one evening
Stop a guy from killing his self over his girlfriend leave him.. I got put out immediately! I was shocked!

They said the rules were never interfere with the clients! State law - Even if they attempt suicide! He hugged me, say " if it not for this black lady I would have been dead, she took away my weapon'"
I just Smiling! ha! ha!

They hug me the whole room of folks! Then I walked to the bus...long ride back to Detroit... I felt so,happy!
---lidia4796 on 7/25/13

Bro. Josef, I totally agree with your statement. We can say he had little faith, or he had sin, or he was sorry for doing something wrong, or a mental problem at the time. We can say all sorts of things, but if he was saved by God, he was saved period. No sin can remove him from entering the kingdom of God.
He could be least in the Kingdom of God, but still in the kingdom of God.
---Mark_V. on 5/12/13

one of God's promises is a sound mind. now some people are saved but their despair overwhelms them. I have felt that way years ago. in 2001 I was in bad despair. I didn't sleep for a long time. as a result, I have a hard time sleeping now. I am just saying Christians can be overwhelmed with grief and things in their lives that are not their fault. these are the times we need to pray and pray and pray.
---shira4368 on 5/10/13

If a person commits suicide, Cherie, this can be because the person has been sowing evil and selfish things to himself or herself. After years of accepting wrong attitudes and desires, this negative and nasty stuff can degrade the person to become ready . . . prepared . . . to react in a suicidal way, instead of God's way.

"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life." (Galatians 6:7-8)
---willie_c: on 5/8/13

Luk 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness, and many shall rejoice at his birth.
Christmas-Christus missa-Christ's gathering
Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:17 And when they had seen [it], they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.
Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Shall I not proclaim even louder, on a day Satan set aside for evil, the mercies of God?
Psa 118:24 This [is] the day [which] the LORD hath made, we will rejoice and be glad in it.
---micha9344 on 5/7/13

"Merry Christmas-Christ is Born!!" michah9344

And that's written in the Gospel? Really?? You had better get your eyes tested.
---christan on 5/3/13

One forget that Christ was a man when He was dying at the cross when He spoke those words, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death" and of course He was literally in pain and sorrowful as spoken. But does that mean He was in "clinical depression"? Only a quack doctor would say so. If Christ was depressed, it would have meant He was reluctant to die. Was He?

In the words of God, Isaiah declared, "Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him, He hath put Him to grief: when thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin".

Obviously one cannot see that Christ's death was the ultimate demonstration of God's love. And if it's because of love that He died, how's that even depressing?
---christan on 5/3/13

"A person will go to heaven or hell, if commit suicide?" Suicide is not the unforgivable sin. However it is one that can not be repented of. Where that person spends eternity, as with all of us, is in the Father's hands. My advice for anyone contemplating suicide is don't. Suicide demonstrates a lack of faith, and "without faith it is impossible to please [our Father]". 11:6
---Josef on 5/3/13

John 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and [that] your joy might be full.
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.
Luke 2:20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.
Merry Christmas-Christ is Born!!
---micha9344 on 5/1/13

\\Yet this person every once a year greet his fellowman "Merry Christmas" when we're told that Christ is a "man of sorrows". See the hypocrisy?\\

WRONG AGAIN, christan!!!!!!

The Orthodox greeting for the Nativity is "Christ is born!" The reply is, "Glorify Him!"

Of course, I suppose you think that when Jesus said, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death," He really meant, "I'm just so happy I could bust out singing!"

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/1/13

It's truly ridiculous for one to even suggest that Jesus while hanging on the cross at Calvary had a "clinical depression"? How does saying, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful" relate to Him being depress? How is being "sorrowful" even "clinical depression"? Yet this person every once a year greet his fellowman "Merry Christmas" when we're told that Christ is a "man of sorrows". See the hypocrisy?

Jesus had a purpose and a mission given unto Him by the Father (see Isaiah 53). When He spoke those words, he spoke as the Man Christ, confirming that He truly was man or the law wouldn't have been fulfilled by Him.
---christan on 5/1/13

"and be renewed in the spirit of your mind," (Ephesians 4:23)

"For God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7)

"My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." (in 2 Corinthians 12:9)

"I will not be brought under the power of any," Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:12.

"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God, and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." (Philippians 4:6-7)
---willie_c: on 4/30/13

christan clearly knows nothing about the medical issue of clinical depression.

Ignore him.

For that matter, our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ once said, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death." Does that sound like He was up on the mount of feelgood all the time?

Did His feeling this way show a lack of faith?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/30/13

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Grandma, one may be depressed before becoming a Christian but when he's regenerated (born of the Spirit), it's impossible that he remains in that state. Here's why, Christ promised,

"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever, I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." John 14:16,18

You see, comfort and depression are in opposition. Just like Holy and sinful, foolish and wise, wicked and righteous, etc. I'm sure you get the drift.

Only a Christian has hope in Christ, so why would he be depress? Contrite yes, depress NO!
---christan on 4/30/13

Christan: There are plenty of Christians who get depressed, because clinical depression is caused by faulty brain chemistry, not faulty thinking or beliefs.
---Grandma on 4/30/13

While Steveng is right about reactive depression--the normal reaction to something sad, such as losing a job or loved one--or guilt induced depression, he is ignoring two other causes.

1. There are some diseases, such as diabetes, that can cause depression if not managed properly. Take care of the underlying medical cause, and the depression vanishes.

2. Clinical depression is also a physical disease. It is no more the sufferer's fault than is a broken leg.

Get help, Cherie. It is available.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/30/13

Hi, Cherie (c: God bless you (c:

To keep it simple, I would say just do not commit suicide. Instead find out what will happen if we trust God and He has us do better.

"For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation not to be regretted. But the sorrow of the world produces death." (2 Corinthians 7:10)

So, God does not want us to keep on suffering in negative sorrow.

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---willie_c: on 4/30/13

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"Also, read what Paul went through: 2 Corinth 11:23-28." Steveng

Are you implying that Paul was going through a "depression" in 2 Corinthians 11:23-28? How so?

Verses 23-25 speaks of the persecution he had to endure in his walk as a Christian. Verses 26-28 speaks about the tribulations he went through in the care and love for the fellow brethren's on his journey to them.

Every Christian in some form or another will go through persecutions and tribulations, maybe not as Paul did but they will go through.

"In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world." John 16:33
---christan on 4/30/13

Steveng, how did you arrive to the conclusion that David was depressed when he wrote Psalm 32:3-4?

Psalm 32:1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. 2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile. 3 When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long. 4 For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah.

There's a great difference in being contrite and depress, and you can be sure a Christian is never depress. How can he when he knows that God has forgiven him of his sins and received salvation?
---christan on 4/30/13

Depression begins when two opposing ideas in the mind cannot be resolved especially when a person trie to resolve it him or her self. Sometimes a person does not know what the conflict is. The longer the conflict, the deeper one goes into their souls to figure it out.

There are two steps you can take to rid your depression:

1. Pray to God to reveal your conflict. Be very specific as to your request and your feelings. (don't forget, praying to God is like having a conversation with your best friend).

2. Build a genuine love for others by helping others. This gets your attention from yourself to others.
---Steveng on 4/29/13

Allow me to bring bible verses to light.

Genesis 4:6-7 shows that Cain's depression was due to guilt.
Psalms 32:3-4 shows that David was very depressed until he confessed his sin of adultry.

Read the follwing verses:
Deuteronomy 31:8
Psalms 32:10
Psalms 34:17
Psalms 37:3-4
Psalms 40:1-3
Psalms 42:5-6, 11
Jeremiah 29:11
John 16:33
2 Corinthians 1:3-4
2 Corinthians 4:8-9, 16-18
1 Peter 4:12-13
1 Peter 5:6-7

Also, read what Paul went through: 2 Corinth 11:23-28

Remember, apply your genuine love towards others so that you take your thoughts away from yourself.
---Steveng on 4/29/13

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Cherie, as I said on your other blog on this subject, I think you're talking about yourself.

Clinical depression is a DISEASE and not a character flaw, much less a life sentence.

There is help available. Don't listen to your disease, but listen to the truth.

There IS light at the end of the tunnel.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/29/13

What if a person asks for forgiveness before they die, but God lets them die anyway? Wouldn't that let them into heaven?
---KarenD on 4/29/13

The commandment forbidding murder forbids you to murder yourself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/29/13

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