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Salvation For Everyone

Is salvation for everyone? Some here belief that it is. Why do they belief that it is for everyone when only a few are chosen to eternal life? Give Scripture.

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//So much for your understanding of "all".
---christan on 6/4/13//
It's not what I said, it's what the Word says.
I assume your bible says SOME instead of ALL.
So much for your limited atonement
---michael_e on 6/5/13


MarkV's ? to me. on 6/3. No. There has been two distinct seeds sown in the Earth. "The children of the kingdom, and the children of the wicked one."
When speaking concerning the rebellion & rejection of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Jesus said "How often I would have gathered your children together...but you would not." The word translated "would" in both places is the greek word thelo, defined as "Determined" as an act to do or not to do. With that act impulsively occurring.
Jesus goes on to say "If God were your Father you would love Me...." [He then tells them]..."You are of your father, the Devil, and the lust of your father you will do.
---Josef on 6/5/13


...I...posted...to bring the subject of God to the for[e]front. For people who have their own ideas, learn instead from the Word of God says.[?!] Some...belie[ve] ...salvation is of their own free will...[gobbledygook]... The god preached today & spoken of in the average pulpit & in much of the religious literature & preach[ed] in so call bible studies is the figment of human imagination...[?]...
---Mark_V. on 6/5/13


Mark thinks he's the authority on God & the Word of God. If anyone's ideas aren't the same as his, they're invalid. He chooses to eisegesis Scripture, way out of context, by privately interpreting it based on a subjective, non-analytical reading of what God-given "free will" is.
---Leon on 6/5/13


michael_e, I assume when you say "all" you are implying everyone of mankind? That Christ's death at Calvary was for every soul? Are you sure you want to go there with your Arminian doctrine?

This is what Matthew 1:21 says, "...and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for He shall save His people from their sins." Is everybody "His people"? Think real hard!

Therefore your understanding of 2 Cor 5:14-15 and 1 Timothy 2:5-6 is simply erroneous. Christ will attest to that, for He declared, "Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father."

So much for your understanding of "all".
---christan on 6/4/13


Christan, being a Christian, writing on Christian topics on a Christian site, and quoting the NT in explanation of my views I imagined people would comprehend that I was speaking of salvation via Christ who it the only way to right standing with God. For example I quoted 1 Corinthians 15:19 to show that "If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied." How can this be construed to suggest there is any way to salvation other than by and through Christ.

Methinks you just like to denigrate others. Grow up lad.
---Warwick on 6/5/13




MarkV: "No one dead in sin chooses the offer of salvation. They are not able to hear the calling of God and belief by faith."

Jesus answers:

Luk 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Mat 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Markie, you've got it all wrong. Jesus did not come to save the "elect", but rather sinners.

Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.


---jerry6593 on 6/5/13


Leon, the reason I put posted is to bring the subject of God to the forfront. For people who have their own ideas, learn instead from the Word of God says. Some here belief that salvation is of their own free will. And by giving the Word of God and not speculations, or ideas of man, they can learn who the real God of the Bible is. Not who man is. Man is dust, God is God, Creator of all things.
The god preached today and spoken of in the average pulpit and in much of the religious literature an preach in so call bible studies is the figment of human imagination just like the heathens who form gods out of wood and stone out of their own carnal mind. I'm not trying to convince you are anyone. I cannot change your heart, only God can do that.
---Mark_V. on 6/5/13


\\No one dead in sin chooses the offer of salvation.\\
---Mark_V. on 6/4/13

No one "alive" chooses salvation, either.

Salvation comes from hearing the gospel and believing it.

And THAT is not something which can be "decided"

The ONLY way someone believes anything at all, is through becoming convinced of it - by the Holy Spirit.

- not by the will of the flesh, or the will of man, but by God - john 1:13
---James_L on 6/5/13


Thank you Michael
---Samuelbb7 on 6/5/13


Michael, well said. Thank you!
---Love.wins on 6/4/13




Limited or unlimited atonement?
Rom 5:18 "Therefore as by the offence of one (Adam) judgment came upon ALL men to condemnation, even so by the righteousness of one (Christ) the free gift came upon ALL men unto justification of life."

Christ's shed blood was sufficient to cover all sins of all people for all time.

2 Cor 5:14-15, "... if one (Christ) died for ALL, then were all dead: And that he died for ALL, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again."
1 Timy 2:5-6 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Who gave himself a ransom for ALL, to be testified in due time."
---michael_e on 6/4/13


Warwick, i assume you're taking umbrage with regards to my comments over yours in the Calvinists vs Arminians blog?

But didn't you say, "repentance is not a tool to get a better life on earth but to avoid perishing in hell" and that I "corrected" you that it is not so? My justification is simple, even the Jews and Muslims who don't believe in Jesus Christ will tell you they repent. Are they going to heaven? Well, according to your blog they are. That's because you said, "repentance... but to avoid perishing in hell"

I didn't misquote nor misunderstood your comment. I simply said what you didn't, that "only faith in Jesus Christ" does the sinner have eternal life, period.
---christan on 6/4/13


Christan, from another thread. It is always a good idea to carefully read what a person has written before making comments. What have I ever written which even hints there is salvation in anyone but the Lord Jesus Christ. You box with shadows.
---Warwick on 6/4/13


Yes Mark but you do not answer the question did they choose to follow the devil? Or does GOD make them follow the devil.

I believe GOD is so great and powerful that He gave men free will. So then we are responsible for our actions. Not that GOD made robots who like atheists say can only respond to events like animals.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/4/13


Is salvation for everyone? Some here belief that it is. Why do they belief that it is for everyone when only a few are chosen to eternal life*? Give Scripture.

Mark asked a question he'd already made up in his mind the answer is NO. Then he subtly casts aspersion on "some" (likely most Bible believing Christians) who know the answer is a resounding YES. *He then tells us exactly what he believes.

Mark doesn't want to reason Scriptural truth with CN bloggers. Instead, he wants to "convince" you he (not you, not me, NOT GOD) is right regardless of what the Bible says. It's all about Mark! He always turns a deaf ear to anyone who opposes his spurious beliefs. What a hypocrite!
---Leon on 6/4/13


MarkV, with logic like that, the only person you will convince is yourself.
---Love.wins on 6/4/13


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Salvation is for everyone, but not all obey and so they miss out.

Jesus calls to "all" > "'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.'" (Matthew 11:28) So, this is for "all". But many do not obey Jesus.

They substitute a lot of Bible church culture acts for obeying how Jesus gives "rest for your souls." (Matthew 11:30)

Hebrews 12:8 says "if you are without chastening, of which all are partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons." But many do not seek our Father's correction which gets us into His love with His "rest for your souls".

So, "all" are called, but not all obey this.
---willie_c: on 6/4/13


Gordon, why don't you understand the offer of salvation?
No one dead in sin chooses the offer of salvation. They are not able to hear the calling of God and belief by faith. Jesus said to those who said they had one Father God,
"If God were you Father you would love Me," no one who is lost loves Christ. "I proceeded forth and came from God, nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. "Why do you not understand My speech? "Because you are not able to listen to My word" you know why they are not able to hear? "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do" This passages and the passages of (Eph. 2:2,3) reveal those who do not belong to God.
---Mark_V. on 6/4/13


Who does God call , His elect by grace, .....
If You see mistakes post them,
---RICHARDC on 6/3/13

No mistake addressed, just an observation reply. All answers are found by two or more "elect" scriptural witnesses for sheep who seek...
Isaiah 45:4
For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Isaiah 65:22
They shall not build, and another inhabit, they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
---Trav on 6/4/13


RICHARDC, a sinner saved by the grace of God must know and realise that his salvation is as Christ declared, "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." This is explicitly God's grace at work.

Meaning, God did not save/draw you because you called on Him. He saved/drew you because He loved you unconditionally "before the foundations of the world" (Ephesians 1:4,5). It was a promise between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The sinner not being created yet, has nothing to do with this election by grace but a mere recipient of God's mercy and grace. (Romans 8:28-30 confirms)

The calling of His name is a confirmation of your salvation.
---christan on 6/4/13


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Mark V, Choosing to receive GOD's Offer of Salvation is not, somehow, "controlling GOD". How can anyone even think that it is? No one can control GOD, just as you attest. GOD created man with free-will choice, and even THAT is all under GOD's Sovereignty. If man chooses Salvation, GOD will Bless the soul for Eternity. If one rejects HIS Salvation, GOD's Wrath will punish for all Eternity. So, GOD is always IN CONTROL. Your version of Predestionation is unbiblical. It paints GOD as this vicious, heartless tyrant to create some people only for the purpose of damning them in eternal Torments. How blind to depict GOD that way. That false version of Predestination IS ingrained in you, it warps your perception.
---Gordon on 6/4/13


God absolutely knows who will recieve salvation. Eph 1: 4,5 but in our daily lives we have the choice to declare his salvation and his righteousness. A parent (God) always loves their child (us) even when they rebel and He waits for their return. (prodical son)
---Scott1 on 6/4/13


Christan - on 6/3/13 - Who does God Call ?

Been working on that. not 100% there yet -

Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in Heart , For they Shall see God,

John 9:31 - Now we know that God hearth not sinners: But if any man be a worshipper of God and doeth his will , him he heareth.

Isaiah 59:2 - But your iniquities have separated you from God, And your sins have hidden his face from you, So he will not hear,

( So God has open the door to the elect, and he hears the remnant , Working on to many verses at Once, been messing up lately - So I am stopping here, any input is appreciated )
---RICHARDC on 6/3/13


//Why do they believe that it is for everyone when only a few are chosen to eternal life?//

MarkV, how can you ask the question in that form. You answered your question as if you want others to follow your opinion.

Not a few are chosen.
But, a few chose heaven for eternal life.

You have a harsh mean god.
I would rather not been created if he is going to deny me life with him.

My God isn't like that. He created me to share life with Him.
Only I can reject the offer.

If you send me a invitation to your party, and I don't go, should I now say you never invited me?
---Nikki on 6/4/13


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"But I do not agree that GOD cannot give us free will and still be GOD." Samuelbb7

Whether you agree or not, it's not the point. We've been asking "free-willers" to show us an explicit verse from the Holy Bible that such a "free-will" was at all been given to the man from creation to after the fall? None from your camp have been able to provide such a verse from the Scriptures.

As for "God forcing man to believe in Him", then I would declare to you that you have no idea what's grace. What you are saying is God forces the sinner to love Him, is there even such a thing?

You do well to quote Romans 3, but do you really understand the context of that chapter? Obviously not.
---christan on 6/4/13


Love wins, it is the opposite of what you said. Just stop to think, if God gave Adam and Eve a free will to do what they wanted, choose right or wrong, then (Adam and Eve) would not be reponsible for what they did, since God Himself gave them the right to choose right or wrong. But God did not give them the right to choose. He gave them a command. Not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden. NOT TO.
Do you know why God gave them that command? Because He knew if He did, they would disobey Him. People today don't have that right either. If they did, they would not be responsible for their rebellion against God.
---Mark_V. on 6/4/13


Either man is a FREE MORAL AGENT or he is not. Man either makes decisions daily to follow the commands of God and the promptings of the Holy Spirit or to accede to the temptations of Satan - or, as some have suggested, he is helpless to make the choice himself, and merely follows God's programming like a mindless robot. If the latter is the case, and God makes all our choices for us, then God himself would be the author of our sins - a partner with Satan. God Forbid!



---jerry6593 on 6/4/13


For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth, And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Wonder if Paul would agree.
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/4/13


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People who do not have free will are thereby not responsible for their actions, good or bad, and cannot justly be held accountable for them. But people who do have free will are responsible for their actions, and can be held accountable for them. Which group are you in?
---Love.wins on 6/3/13


Total Depravity means men do not have a pure heart. While I do not agree with the standard meaning placed by the RCC. We are all sinners there is none righteous. Romans 3.

But I do not agree that GOD cannot give us free will and still be GOD. Calvinist in effect are saying that GOD has to force men to believe or he is not truly GOD. To me the Bible teaches that GOD can give us free will and we are responsible for our actions. We cannot blame what we do right or wrong on GOD.

I read where the Bible says GOD calls all and convicts all by the HOLY SPIRIT. I do not see anywhere limited atonement or irrestisable grace where GOD forces people to be saved.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/3/13


"Who does God call , His elect by grace," RICHARDC

100% correct.

"Those are the ones God hears, When they call on him, He hear's Them, Why, They call on him out of a pure Heart,"

Here, you become dicey and that's because you say "They call on him out of a pure Heart,". My question to you if you don't mind is, how did they get "a pure heart"? And also, what was the cause of them calling out to the Lord? Did they just simply call unto Him out of the blues? Did something have to happen first or was it within themselves they decided to call on the Lord?
---christan on 6/3/13


Gordon, predestination is not ingrain in me. God is. He is Lord and He is King. No one tells God what to do. Especially sinful man. God is in control of all things. Man cannot even control his own mouth, let along control God.
You give sinful man a lot of credit, as if he is in control of his own life. Why is it so hard for you to not understand that God controls your own steps?
"A man's heart deviseth his way, but the Lord directeth his steps" (Prov. 16:9).
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay His hand" (Dan.4:35).
"He knoweth our frame, He remembereth that we are dust" (Psa. 103:14).
---Mark_V. on 6/3/13


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Christan on 6/3 /13 - No freewill here!

Joel 2:32 - What I got is out of this verse is: Jew and gentile - There is a Remnant Saved, - Zion - is called Christ Church - Many be in Hebrews 12:22 - And Few enter the striate gate. Jewish People saved: a remnant - Romans 11:5

Who does God call , His elect by grace, Those are the ones God hears, When they call on him, He hear's Them, Why, They call on him out of a pure Heart,

If You see mistakes post them,

---RICHARDC on 6/3/13


Josef, sir, if salvation is for everyone, don't you think everyone would be saved? Salvation is not for everyone, not everyone will read, hear, or ever know about the gospel. Unless there is other ways into heaven without the atonment of Christ. The fact is that when the Holy Spirit guided the apostles to go in one direction and not to go to other places, those who missed out on the gospel were lost. Though the gospel goes out into the world, not every single person will hear it.
---Mark_V. on 6/3/13


"Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father."
You see, "whosoever" is not of man's choice but whom the Father has given to His Son.
---christan on 6/3/13

You posted "you see" above. Then you get your replies....in reality to these two words. Even the disciples had to ask for the scriptures to be opened. They had to seek, knock and ask. Some here if shown are too fearful to look or search further. Most want to Burger K it. Have it their way. Most amazing to me are the so called preachers....who are willing to go against the prophets of GOD. They are the blind leading the blind.
Matt 10:6, 15:24, tells who was sought and found.
---Trav on 6/3/13


Mark V, And, the false version of Predestination is no ingrained in your mind, that you cannot see the Truth of the GOD-given free-will of mankind.
---Gordon on 6/3/13


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MarkV, I made no attempt to interpret anything Sir, I simply quoted scripture in answer to your specific question "Is salvation for everyone?" The answer to that question is, and will always be yes. I believe that that was what Kathy was agreeing with. If the question read will everyone receive salvation? The answer would have been no. Although everyone should voluntarily confess that Jesus as Lord and Savior, not everyone will. NASB is the only version of the Bible that uses the word "will" in Phl 2:11, all others, that I know of, uses the word "should". However, I must say Isa 45:23 & Rom 14:11 does give us the impression that those who does not voluntarily do so, will eventually be forced to.
---Josef on 6/3/13


If anyone took the interpretation that brother Josef posted to be true, that would mean everyone in the world will be save in the end. Which would make everyone who sins, and all 'free willers" very happy. They can do what they want, rebel against God all they want, for in the end they will be save anyways. That would also mean there is no hell, and that would satisfy all those who believe there is no hell to pay for their sins. But there is no such thing as "Universal salvation" The whole world (every single person) will not be saved. If they were going to be saved anyway, there would be no need for Jesus Christ dying on the Cross for the sins of those who have faith.
---Mark_V. on 6/3/13


RICHARDC, are you justifying the "free-will" when you quoted Joel 2:32? If you are, your understanding is in grave error.

Here's why, Christ revealed and declared, "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." That is, the "whosoever" points to those who have been "drawn by the Father", nothing to do with your imaginary "free-will".

"Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." You see, "whosoever" is not of man's choice but whom the Father has given to His Son.
---christan on 6/3/13


Thank you Jerry.

Christian we who believe in Free Will also believe that JESUS was foreordained. But the verse you presented does not show that JESUS only died for some of the world. It does not show that JESUS forces people to be saved. It does not show that GOD does not love everyone. So until you can explain away the verse such as John 3:16 and make them not mean what they say. I will not agree with you.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/3/13


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Joel 2:32 - And it shall come to pass, that whosoever call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered, For in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord Has said, And in the Remnant whom the Lord shall call,
---RICHARDC on 6/2/13


"GOD created man with a free-will to either receive Salvation or reject it." Gordon

He did? Really? That's not what the apostle Peter declared - "But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world..." 1 Peter 1:19,20

Does this sound like God made a "contingency plan" because He didn't envisage Adam and Eve to disobey Him or does it sound like Adam and Eve was predestined to fall because God had already "foreordained Christ to be the Saviour of His people"?

Scripture says what it says, whereas you say what is not said in Scriptures.
---christan on 6/2/13


Gordon, where do you get your ideas? You are so use to talking about free will that it is in your mind no matter what because not one of your ideas are from the Bible. You say,
" It's a matter of how HE set things up. The Law of reaping and sowing. GOD created man with a free-will to either receive Salvation or reject it." There is no passages in the Bible where God gave man free will or that He gave Adam and Eve a choice, not one"
Where did God give Adam and Eve a choice to choose from what tree to eat from?
He said they could eat of every tree, but not to eat from one tree in the middle of the garden. Nowhere does God give them a choice? Nowhere. He gave them a command. They purposely disobeyed the Command.
---Mark_V. on 6/2/13


I THESSALONIANS 5:20 "Despise not prophecyings."
---Gordon on 6/2/13


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Mark V, It's not a question as to whether GOD can do what HE wants to do. It's a matter of how HE set things up. The Law of reaping and sowing. GOD created man with a free-will to either receive Salvation or reject it. Like the option GOD gave Adam and Eve to choose from any tree in the Garden to eat from except the forbidden Tree. Eve and Adam chose FREELY, freely chose, to eat from the forbidden Tree. Likewise, we have that same choice to receive soul-Redemption or to refuse it. GOD is still in Control. If a person chooses Salvation GOD is delighted. If they reject Salvation they experience GOD's forewarned Judgment of HIS Wrath and Damnation for all Eternity. So, GOD's Laws of reaping-and-sowing, which HE Himself set in motion, win out.
---Gordon on 6/2/13


salvation is for the few jesus recognizes. many will be shocked.
---aka on 6/1/13

Even so called preachers won't hear the prophets. No one can teach the deaf, blind and dead.
Except....

Matthew 1:21
.... call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 18:11
For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
Luke 19:10
For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Luke 24:25
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
---Trav on 6/2/13


Its true, if God can do anything and does do everything.
Then the every breath you take is by the hand of God.
Everything you see before you is by the hand of God.

What Im saying is you look at the world round you and judge it.
Because of the things you see in front of you. And rightly so!
I mean who better than you to judge the things you know?

I mean, if you are a just man, wouldnt your judgments also be just?
Now whats the word Im looking for? Oh yes, Oxymoron.

What will you say now? Surely, not everything is by the hand of God.
Like I said who better than you to judge the things you know?
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/2/13


Bro.MarkV, you make a good point. Many who claim to be Christians here and everywhere pretend they know who God Almighty. But they reek with hypocrisy because they deny that God can do as He please with His creation, even though He has declared so.

"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35

Paul went further, "Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?" Romans 9:21

And they have the audacity to say they know God. Ya right!
---christan on 6/1/13


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Shira, you first say God can do what He wants, then suddenly from somewhere you make a u turn and counter that He doesn't do what He wants to do because as you determined God suddenly found out that Adam sinned and so God had to change His plan. If God knows everything, don't you think He knew Adam would sin? Wasn't it God who put the tree in the middle of the garden? He didn't have to. God does not learn things Shira, He is all knowing. So in your theory every time sinful man does something, God has to exercise another plan, every time sinful man makes a choice? I don't know what god you are talking about but not the One from Scripture. What other theory can you come out with?
---Mark_V. on 6/2/13


Samuel: Excellent post! Most Christians do not understand that salvation is being saved FROM sin - not saved IN sin. They see it as an irrevocable "get-into-heaven-free" ticket - with or without sin. They also see themselves as the judge of their fitness for heaven, rather than the God of heaven. Else, they would never utter the words "I am saved".


---jerry6593 on 6/2/13


salvation is for the few jesus recognizes. many will be shocked.
---aka on 6/1/13


Well put, Rita.

In fact, God loves us so much that He called us from non-existence into being for no other reason than to lavish His love upon us.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 6/1/13


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Rita H : Right On!!
---Simone on 6/1/13


Salvation is available to all but not all will choose that path. God loved us before we loved Him and He does not wish any to be lost but those who reject the salvation offered through Jesus' death on the cross will be lost nevertheless.
That is man's doing, not God's.
---Rita_H on 6/1/13


God can do what He wants but He designed a way to heaven when adam sinned. do you think God planned adam's sin? God said He was sorry He even made man. God is not going to force man to do anything. we do have a choice because that was God's plan.
---shira4368 on 6/1/13


How many here belief that God is God? If you belief that God is God how come you believe that He cannot do what He wants to do? Is salvation for everyone? If God who is God wanted to save the whole world, why do you believe He is not capable of saving everyone if He so wanted? He holds all power for He is Omnipotent. He even knows all things, what you are going to do every second, and day you will die, where you will be born, and how you are going to die, so how can He not be able to do what He wants? Does sinful man have power over God? Does the devil? Most of you give more credit to sinful man and the devil then to God, Creator of all things. Why? Why is man so important to you over God?
---Mark_V. on 6/1/13


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Amen Josef, great post. Perfect TRUTH.
---kathr4453 on 5/31/13


Mark V, MATTHEW 22:14 says, "For MANY are called, but few are chosen." It does not say "few are called, and all of those few are chosen". It's saying that GOD calls many unto Salvation, but, only a few of them, in comparison, actually end up making it in to Heaven. For, only a comparatively few are willing to truly lay down their flesh-nature to follow GOD's Spirit of "denying the flesh and taking up the Cross". GOD calls many unto Salvation, but only a few respond by receiving Salvation and living out GOD's Will in their lives.
---Gordon on 5/31/13


Salvation is for all, But all will Not accept Acts 2 v 38, The Only salvation from God.
Matt.7 v 13. The strait gate & be but few to find it, using a # figure of 500,000. -=- Broad is the way that leads to destruction ( hell & the lake of fire ) & be many to go in thereat. Using a # figure of 500,000,000. The trinity Rev.17 v's 4 - 6, & those that worship the gods of buddha, allah, hindu, baha'i etc, j - witness, agnostics, atheist etc.
---Lawrence on 5/31/13


Same with salvation. It's not free, Jesus had to pay for it
---James_L on 5/31/13
Sounds like your misconception. Jesus paid for it. It is free to you.
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost, Eph. 2:8 -9 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
---michael_e on 5/31/13


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salvation is a gift of God. it is a free gift and we don't have to do anything to get it except repent. after we are saved, then we can work for Christ.
---shira4368 on 5/31/13


Jesus is for everyone. But ones refuse Him.

"'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.'" (Matthew 11:28-30)

Jesus calls this to "all". So, yes this is for everyone.

But there are people who claim "free will" who do not choose to learn how to live with Jesus in His "rest for your souls." There are destiny people who do not love all people, by having this hope for all people, like Jesus has for "all".
---willie_c: on 5/31/13


...but it's not at all harmful to repent of one's sins...
---Love.wins on 5/31/13


\\Salvation is a free gift without any work whatsoever. (Eph. 2:8-9)\\
---michael_e on 5/30/13

Common misconception there

It might seem like splitting hairs, but the free gift is not salvation. The gift is grace, or the payment for the salvation - being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus (Rom 3:24)

Suppose you go thru a drive-thru to get food. They tell you that the guy in front of you paid for your food.

?? which is the gift -
the food, or the payment for the food?

The food comes from the restaurant, they're not giving it away to anybody. Somebody has to pay for that food.

Same with salvation. It's not free, Jesus had to pay for it
---James_L on 5/31/13


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"Is salvation for everyone?" Yes.
"For to this [end] we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is [the] Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Look to Me, and be saved, All you ends of the earth! For I [am] God, and [there is] no other. Whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son [as] Savior of the world." 1Ti 4:10> 1Ti 4:10>1Ti 2:6>Isa 45:22>Jhn 3:15> Jhn 3:17>1Jo 4:14
---josef on 5/31/13


Salvation is for everyone because we are all His children. (John 3:16)
Many will not be saved because following Christ means giving up your will and taking your cross. (Matt 7:13) Following Christ means surrender and disobeying your self-righteousness. Many people will not accept this position under authority. It is God's gift to us but we have to accept the gift.
---Scott1 on 5/31/13


True we come to JESUS with nothing because we have nothing. We are then saved. But what are we saved from? Sin. Matthew 1:21 After we are saved then we are to follow JESUS.

Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mar 8:34 And when he had called the people [unto him] with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/31/13


Salvation is a free gift without any work whatsoever. (Eph. 2:8-9) Salvation is not dependent upon walking the aisle, joining the church, being baptized, turning over a new leaf, repenting of your sins, turning from your sins, forsaking your sins, confessing your sins, asking for forgiveness of your sins or inviting Christ into your heart.

Forgiveness is available to all who believe that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again and that God forgave us for Christs sake. (I Cor. 15:1-4) Salvation is trusting completely in what Christ did in our behalf at Calvary. (Eph. 1:13)
---michael_e on 5/30/13


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1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
---francis on 5/30/13


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
---francis on 5/30/13


Jesus said that many are called but few are chosen. Not everyone who is called responds to the call and most of those who do respond don't want to do the work thus few are chosen for eternal life because one must complete the course to be in the Kingdom of God.

Those chosen for eternal life learn and practice the truth (John 3:21). They take the time to learn of God and their love of Truth brings them to the Light.

Salavation is available for everyone and it is not God's will that any should perish but we must do His will (Matt 7:21).
---barb on 5/30/13


Because the Bible says that it is God's will that everyone be saved, and that God is the Savior of all mankind. If God doesn't save everyone, then He is not the Savior of all mankind. It's pretty simple.
---Love.wins on 5/30/13


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Matthew 22.14 x

Hope this helps, sister sarah x
---sarah on 5/30/13


scott...Give scripture!!!!!
---KarenD on 5/30/13


How about this?

Rev. 22:17.

Romans 1:16

John 6:37

BTW--I'm not denying that God takes--or has taken, if you prefer--the initiative in our salvation.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/30/13


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