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Who Cleansed Sanctuary

Who cleansed the sanctuary:
1: Jesus
2: Judas Maccabeus

Daniel 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days, then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

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Wow francis your right again
What does the weekly Sabbath have to do with the cleansing of the sanctuary which was revealed a 1000 plus years after creation?

Nothing, absolutely nothing!
I must have been thinking of Genetic diversity.
Sorry, but thanks for your time!
---TheSeg on 6/16/13



---TheSeg on 6/16/13
If you read Leviticus 16 and 17, Leviticus 23 verses 26-30, and Hebrews 8 and 9 you would see why it needed to be cleansed


Gen_2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Blessed and sanctified it, the seventh day!
Why because in it he rested!
---TheSeg on 6/15/13
what does the weekly sabbath have to do with the cleansing of the sanctuary which was revealed a 1000 plus years after creation

your post are useless, because you rather have a silly argument on which you are neither on topic nor in context that seek truth
---francis on 6/16/13


What gets me about you is why the Sanctuary that God made blessed and sanctified.
From the very beginning have to be cleansed as if something unclean can enter therein.
Somehow you think the blood cleaned the Sanctuary and not the Sanctuary cleaning the blood.

The blood wasnt given for the Sanctuary it was the Sanctuary that gave the blood for you!
Even before the foundations of the earth.

And yes youre right:
This topic of the cleansing of the sanctuary is WAY WAY over your head at this time
francis

I just thank God, it was done for you.
That is to say: That you had nothing to do with it.
And still dont.
---TheSeg on 6/16/13


---TheSeg on 6/15/13

This topic of the cleansing of the sanctuary is WAY WAY over your head at this time

If you want to make a meaningful post, read Leviticus 16 and 17, Leviticus 23 verses 26-30, and Hebrew 8 and 9
---francis on 6/15/13


Gen_2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Blessed and sanctified it, the seventh day!
Why because in it he rested!

You will hear more and more people calling what God has sanctified. Unclean!
Have a complete understand in them, but choosing to believe a lie.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

1Jn_2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

Stop changing it.
---TheSeg on 6/15/13




The earthly sanctuary taught us all about what Christ wodl do for our salvation ( plan of redeemption)

once of the things it teaches, is the cleansing of the sanctuary, and the sins of the people through the shed blood of the lamb

There have been many people killed, and their blood spilled on the temple, even on the altar, and the cleaning fo that blood was not reffred to in the bible, even as much to call it cleansing

There have been idols and debree that has been cleaned, never called cleansing

Only the removal fo sin is called cleansing, which God and not Judas Maccabeus did in connection with the Unto two thousand and three hundred days
---francis on 6/14/13


Gee guys ~ you really need to take a time out & clean up your acts! Do yourselves a favor & stop majoring in the minors. Find & go to your happy places. Peace!!! :)
---Leon on 6/13/13


You really are just a fool.
Don't you understand it's by the very things you say?

Then you say:
//That is what I want to hear from you
that is what is expect to hear from you//

Don't you understand you will never hear this from me!
Not now, not ever! Never will you hear me say I am a Saint.
Those words are not for me or anyone of say of himself.
What the sense, talking to you is like talking to dead wood.

Yea I know! The nursing home called, they said you doing well.
They would like it, if you could stay awake during the daytime.
But you're doing well!
I also called the family they said you're doing much better too.
---TheSeg on 6/13/13


You call yourself a Saint.
You call your lord by another name.
Only fools do these thing!
---TheSeg on 6/13/13

that is more you speed
That is what I want to hear from you
that is what is expect to hear from you

keep it up, you are doing wel at the kiddie table, this topic is way over your head
---francis on 6/13/13


You are a fool francis!
A fool, fooling himself and in that, trying to fool other!
Do you really think anyone here can be fool by you?
Then there are so many that speak the truth and see you for what you are?

You call yourself a Saint.
You call your lord by another name.
Only fools do these thing!
---TheSeg on 6/13/13




TheSeg on 6/13/13
this topic is a lot over your head, suggest you go to the kiddie table
---francis on 6/13/13


Joh_17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
Joh_19:30 It is finished:

Heb_4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Rev_10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


Heb_4:3
Gen_2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
---TheSeg on 6/13/13


the actions of Judas Maccabeus
to remove blood, and debree from the sanctuary, was not an act of cleansing, but mearly cleaning. this was the same act that had been performed many times when various kings ordered that the sanctuary and temple be repaired

Only a high priest coudl cleanse the samectuary, so Daniel 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days, then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
doe snot refer to what Judas Maccabeus did, but what Jesus is doing right now
---francis on 6/13/13


francis
Gen_1:31 And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

From the very beginning God called everything good!
After calling everything good on the sixth day God made other day.
The seventh day!

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it:
Because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Only the seventh day was sanctified, not the preceding six days.
The seventh day has already been sanctified by God from the beginning!
There is no need to do it again. I think, I said enough!
I can only hope you see a pattern here.
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/13/13


---TheSeg on 6/12/13
Once again, you are looking away from truth to find something else

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood, It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified meaning that in the same way the earthly sanctuary was purified, the cleansing of the sins of the people, so too much the heavenly be purified


Leviticus 16:30 For on that day shall [the priest] make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, [that] ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.
---francis on 6/13/13


All our sins are recorded in heaven, blotting out our sins is the cleansing of the sanctuary
francis

So this is the way you see it?
The Son of God told you, I have the record in myself and my record is true.

Joh_8:14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go, but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.

But you say the records are in heaven. Is this where the books were opened in heaven?
Rev 20:11 from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, and there was found no place for them.

And the books were opened!
Luk_16:26!
---TheSeg on 6/12/13


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So was this wrong because there are no people in heaven.
---TheSeg on 6/12/13

Nehemiah 4:5 and let not their sin be blotted out from before thee

Isaiah 43:25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake,

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out

All our sins are recorded in heaven, blotting out our sins is the cleansing of the sanctuary

Now I know that you understand this, everyone does. but because you do not care for truth, which this is, you are now awaiting a lie
---francis on 6/12/13


But you said:
heavenly sanctuary get dirty the same way in which the earthly sanctuary got " dirty."
The sins of the people
francis on 6/10/13

So was this wrong because there are no people in heaven.
You know everyone being dead and in the graves until the resurrection?
So the heavenly sanctuary didn't get dirty the same way the earthly sanctuary did.
The sins of the people.

You're now saying it was Lucifer who dirty up heaven.
And you're sure this time it was Lucifer?
Is that right?
---TheSeg on 6/12/13


The two facts do not cancel each other out. While sin started in heaven with lucifer, all our sins are recorded in heaven:

Daniel 7:10...the books were opened.
Rev 20:12 the books were opened:..the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

the cleansing of the sanctuary is the removal of the records of the sins of the people, by the blood of the lamb of God,
Isaiah 1:18 though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow,
Revelation 1:5 Jesus Christ, .. that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood

that is why what Judas " the hammer" Maccabeus did was not cleansing of the sanctuary, but rather janitorial cleaning
---francis on 6/12/13


--Cluny on 6/9/13
heavenly sanctuary get dirty the same way in which the earthly sanctuary got " dirty."
The sins of the people
francis on 6/10/13

Well sir, sin started in heaven with Lucifers rebellion
francis on 6/10/13

People or Lucifer, I see the old soft shoe.
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Jas_1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
---TheSeg on 6/11/13


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Sin cannot enter heaven, as nothing defiled can enter it.
---Cluny on 6/10/13

Well sir, sin started in heaven with Lucifers rebellion
francis

Did it now, and where is it written sin started with Lucifer.
Is now Lucifer the creator too?

All things were created by who, francis?
Wait, I know Michael the archangel.

No that don't sound right, I know lets change his name too!
Michael the Creator! Hows that sound?
Oh, you don't like it.

Well, that's too bad because, that what youve made him!
---TheSeg on 6/10/13


\\But do you not think that the records of our sins all our deeds are in heaven?\\

A record of sin is not sin itself, just as a traffic ticket is NOT the violation itself.

Or can you grasp the difference?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 6/10/13


Sin cannot enter heaven, as nothing defiled can enter it.
---Cluny on 6/10/13
Well sir, sin started in heaven with Lucifers rebelion

But do you not think that the records of our sins all our deeds are in heaven?

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God, and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Daniel 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened
---francis on 6/10/13


Sin cannot enter heaven, as nothing defiled can enter it.

Neither can flesh and blood inherit heaven, therefore there is no blood there.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 6/10/13


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--Cluny on 6/9/13
heavenly sanctuary get dirty the same way in which the earthly sanctuary got " dirty."

Leviticus 16:15 Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that [is] for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat:

Leviticus 16:16 And he shall make an atonement for the holy [place], because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their sins: and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation, that remaineth among them in the midst of their uncleanness.

The sins of the people
---francis on 6/10/13


How did the heavenly sanctuary get dirty?

Was hell able to invade Heaven after all?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 6/9/13


Yes, backdated is an accurate way to put it.
---Love.wins on 6/8/13


---Love.wins on 6/8/13
are you suggesting that Daniel was backdated?

The book of Daniel also speaks of events past 160 BC, like the rule of Rome throughout the world and the ten division of Rome which came must later than 160 BC, The destruction of the temple which came in 70 AD, the death of Jesus which came in 31 AD, The setting up of the abomination that makes desolate, and many other prophecies which were fulfilled after 160 AD
---francis on 6/8/13


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The Book of Daniel was written circa B.C. 160's, during the time of the Maccabees, for the specific purpose of encouraging the Jews of that era, who were being oppressed by the Selucids. So the story refers to the cleansing of the temple at that time.
---Love.wins on 6/8/13


Hebrews 9:23 [It was] therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these

so something in heaven needed to be purified
---francis on 6/7/13


Since nothing defiled can enter heaven, it certainly cannot be the heavenly sanctuary, if such there be.

Therefore, it has to be the EARTHLY sanctuary.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 6/7/13


Well, Jesus has cleansed the heavenly sanctuary. But the one on earth has had its veil torn . . . kind of exposing things to dust. I can't say Jesus is too concerned, now, about the earthly sanctuary, since now we are His sanctuary.
---willie_c: on 6/7/13


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