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Wrestling Against Demons

Is this talking about a person, a host, an individual or is it talking about forces, thoughts and ideas?

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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Elder, there's no choice in getting saved.
Jesus did not come to see if there were any who would seek Him. Read the Bible. (Rom. 3:11) says
"There is no one who seek after God" Christ came not only to seek and find, but also to save. His words are,
"For the Son of Man is come to seek and to save that which was lost" Note it is not merely that He offers to, nor helps to, but that He actually saves. The angel declared to Joseph
"Thou shall call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins" Not try, but actually save them. Christ came here with one purpose in mind, and being who He is there is no possible room for any failure in His mission.


---Mark_V. on 7/23/13


Shira, you tell Elder,
"Elder I am wondered the same thing. How do they know they are the elect. They say we will find out on judgment day."
No one knows they are of the elect, His people, His sheep, until they are born of God. Once a person is saved, he understands the Truth,
"Knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God. For our gospel did not come to you in Word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit with much assurance.." (1 Thess. 1:4,5).
The word goes to many, but to the elect it comes in power and in the Spirit. If the word does not come in power, then you don't know if you are one of the elect. It's really pretty simple, if you are saved, you should know you are one of the elect.
---Mark_V. on 7/23/13


Samuelbb7
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

Few!
Peace
---TheSeg on 7/22/13


Elder I am wondered the same thing. How do they know they are the elect. They say we will find out on judgment day. Frankly waiting till judgment day scares the literal hell out of me. I just bought a book by dr Jim Jones called the assurance of salvation. Haven't had time to read it yet. No it isn't the same Jim Jones that organized a cult and moved them to south America.
---shira4368 on 7/22/13


Samuel, you are absolutely correct. Christians have been knowing that all along. we need to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit about such things as islam, atheist and other false religions. many don't see the same as I do. I see how muslims are migrating to the united states and we all know that is a disaster to America. the country who was founded on Christian principals. please look up wallbuilders and get the dvd of religious symbols in Washington that have been there since our country was founded. I learned things I never even thought about.
---shira4368 on 7/22/13




My understanding is that is all of the above. We are in a war against Satan and he uses people, thoughts, ideas to destroy Christianity.

Christianity is under attack from Atheists, Islam and liberal Christians who do not believe in the Bible.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/22/13


Seg, now all ya gotta do is have someone explain it to ya. Everyone has seen enough of your falseness to fall for more of your personal doctrines of devils.
---Elder on 7/22/13


Seg, all ya gotta do pal is read the Bible and not those little books that you do.
Elder
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
No I don't find it strange, coming from you!

You mean:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, (that whosoever believeth in him) should not perish, but have everlasting life.


lidia4796
One thing should be very clear to all.
Our Lord Jesus Christ said:
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

So I guess you have to decide, who you are going to believe!
Peace
---TheSeg on 7/22/13


To the Seg. It is re: Eph.6 (can be both) the political systems,governments we all know "corruption" worldwide!
It got to be lead by Satan, his evil demons/ greed/lust for power,etc then there are the faithfull believers tempted on every hand( no matter where you live,work,play,sleep )
we are bombarded with all kinds of ideas, some temptations- our inadequacies, in life, bad thoughts,rumors, past hurts, dreams or goals we did not reach- Satan uses all of those and more, maybe it's things we feel down about we should DO more! Guilt and Shame...on and on..Thank God for the Bible.. we would be in worse shape..without a roadmap to Salvation! Thankyou, jesus!
---lidia4796 on 7/22/13


Seg, all ya gotta do pal is read the Bible and not those little books that you do. Find out what simple John 3:16 means/says and it will clear it all up for you.
You and Mark still will not answer how do you know you are the "Elect?"
Do you really know who the elect are?
How come we never get tp talk to the ones who are not the "elect?"
---Elder on 7/22/13




Hello,Realize my faults, not as smart as you all, but, I believe too, God gave up his son so, all could have that same chance at eternal life, I do not understand how God could just pick some & say "No" to people
per chance could be saved. Forgive me if I am confussed,but I have yet to get the complete drift about that word elect, I will come back with my scriptures... please respond Bro.MarkV or anyone ..lidia4796 thanks!
---lidia4796 on 7/22/13


Elder, so then you believe everyone on earth is saved?
_Why no! I don't believe that!_ "TheSeg and Love_wins!

But!
/Mark, again we must divide the Word correctly./! (Just so funny, sorry!)
/Those without are not (born) sheep yet but Jesus still died for them./ (really? Where did it say that?)

/ Jn_3:16 says God gave His Son for the world. Does that mean that the sheep are the world?/
(There is nothing else in this world! Love not the world, nor the things in the world!)
(God world are only his people!)

/Also if He didn't die for all how do we tell which ones He did die for? How do you know He died for you?/
(No man can serve two masters!)

Peace
---TheSeg on 7/22/13


Christ came to carry into effect God's sovereign purpose of election, "to save a people already His" (Matt. 1:21)
---Mark_V. on 7/22/13
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

you are dead wrong mark_V, you do not divide the word you just butcher it
---francis on 7/22/13


Elder, yes, we must the divide the Word of God correctly. Lost man makes choices, but never for Christ. Only the elect are saved. Jesus calls them His sheep. Christ came to carry into effect God's sovereign purpose of election, "to save a people already His" (Matt. 1:21) by covenant settlement. They are a people whom God hath "from the beginning" chosen unto salvation" (2 Thess. 2:13), redemption was in order to the accomplishing of that decree by God. He did not come to seek and save all the lost, nor did He come to see if people would seek Him, (Rom. 3:11) says no one seeks after God. Christ is the seeker of the lost sheep. "..the good Shepherd giveth His life for the sheep" (John 10:10)
---Mark_V. on 7/22/13


This text may able imply that some government and powers are under the control of satan.
francis

But then again it might just mean.
Rom_13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom_13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Eph_6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

What can I say read on!
There is one righteousness, not two.
It's either your or his, not both!
No one has any righteousness! (No not one!)
Peace
---TheSeg on 7/22/13


Mark, again we must divide the Word correctly. Who was Jesus speaking to when He made those comments?
It's like when I say that I work to feed my family. If I invite you to eat at my house you are a friend not my family.
Who else would have died for the Sheep but the Good Shepherd?
Jn 3:16 says God gave His Son for the world. Does that mean that the sheep are the world?
No! The sheep are in the Shepherds fold. Those without are not (born) sheep yet but Jesus still died for them.
Also this was a parable/a story/illustration with a spiritual principle.
Also if He didn't die for all how do we tell which ones He did die for? How do you know He died for you?
---Elder on 7/22/13


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Shira, I was also sincere, You said that Jesus died for all, indicating all human beings, and I said He didn't, if He had everyone would be saved. He died for His sheep and His sheep only.
"I Am the good Shepherd: the good Shepherd giveth His life for the sheep" (John 10:10,11). He did not say He died for everyone because not everyone is His sheep. That was my point again. I am not mocking you, but giving you the facts from the Word of God.
If a person belongs to the sheep of Christ, you must be saved, even though now you (not you personally) may be quite unconscious of your lost condition. Paul when lost was not conscious of his lost condition either, but was saved.
---Mark_V. on 7/22/13


Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
---TheSeg on 6/15/13
This text may able imply that some government and powers are under the control of satan

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Their action to persecute the people of God is a result of satan's influence on them, and that while we blame the government, we should be praying to God to deliver those government from the influence of Satan
---francis on 7/21/13


Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

What this verses says in context and doctrine, is that if i buy a piece of beef in the market, and I have some doubts at to whether this meat which may have been offered to an idol is clean,(1 Corinthians 10:20-21 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils,) and I eat it anyways, I am damned.
WHY? Because in my mind this meat is unclean, it is an abomination to God and yet, i ignore that God has commanded not to eat anything unclean, the warnings of God and eat it anyway. This means that I am saying that I know God has said not to eat this, but I will eat it anyway.
---francis on 7/22/13


You do not eat certain foods, because you call them sin.
---Mark_V. on 7/21/13
What does Jehovah call them:
Leviticus 11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Lev 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls, they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

Lev 11:42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly,... them ye shall not eat, for they are an abomination.

Lev 11:4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof, he is unclean unto you.
---francis on 7/21/13


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markv, why did you need to repeat what I said? I was sincere in what I said to you. it seems you mocked me but its all ok. I do understand. no I don't really understand. please tell me what your point was?
---shira4368 on 7/21/13


Carla, I do know the God of the Bible. You are complaining again. Accusing again. Why don't you just put down what I said to you that was wrong? Anyone can talk like you to others about someone. Don't just talk and complain, put down what I said to you that was wrong.
So far every free willer has complained, whin, called me names, thrown demons or satan at me. Only they do that when I tell them it was God who saved them, but no, they want the glory with their free will. So get in line, there is many free willers on line.
---Mark_V. on 7/21/13


Shira,

I agree that you contest what is incorrect and what is correct for the word declares to search the bible to see if it is so.

By Mark-v words you know it does not always resonate with scriptures.

how do I know because I told him something I battled with, spoke to my YHWH with through his son Christ and he showed me how to cast these demons out and I over a very long period eventually got peace.

This man professes to know God not YHWH and his son if he did he would know a believer different from a liar.

remember I stand before The IAM why would I lie????

He lacks wisdom and also the full amour of YHWH and so errors in his judgements
---Carla on 7/21/13


You give,
"... all humanity has a chance to be saved but most turn their back on God." If Jesus died for every single person, then Jesus paid the debt for everyone, but He died only for those who believe by faith.
If you read Luke 19:10, you will find out that the passage is not saying that Christ came here to seek and to save all the lost" Of course not. Two thirds of human history had already run its course before Jesus was even born. Half the human race was already in hell when He entered Bethlehm's manger. Christ did not come to see if there were any who would seek after Him. Of course not. Romans 3:11 emphatically declares "there is none that seeketh after God" Christ is the seeker, not man.
---Mark_V. on 7/19/13


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markv, I have also shown you scripture that tells us Christ died for "ALL'. all humanity has a chance to be saved but most turn their back on God. you can tell a brother or sister when they love the brethren. I am glad we can discuss things and still love each other.
---shira4368 on 7/18/13


Shira, what you said I added your name,

"Shira, I love you as a sister also and I don't dislike you for a moment, I just know your doctrine is wrong. others and me have shown you scripture that you don't believe"
You and others take the glory for your salvation when you say you chose Christ,
when It was He "who chose you before the foundation of the world.." (Eph. 1:4) "and called you to a holy calling not according to your works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to you in Christ Jesus before time began, " (2 Tim. 1:9).

If He had not chose you and called you according to His own purpose and grace you would be still heading to hell.
---Mark_V. on 7/18/13


The writer is telling use what our fight is against. You can fight those things if you wish. I find it better if I just sow the Gospel. They tend to leave me very much alone. Why, because I have more faith, no, because I'm smarter, no the only reason is Gods word when you sow it it will protect you and your house. Not because your great but because you are doing what Jesus said to do. Mark 16,15
---Bryan on 7/16/13


markv, I love you as a brother but you said something that interest me. you said individuals carry their beliefs to their church. that is exactly what you are doing. I don't dislike you for a moment, I just know your doctrine is wrong. others and me have shown you scripture that you don't believe. there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate and I have never said anything about you personally but only some of your doctrine. I still love you.
---shira4368 on 7/16/13


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markv, I have never complained about my salvation nor have I complained about my bible. I don't know what to say about my complaining. please show me. I just know I am saved by grace, not of works lest any man would boast. (paraphrased). I believe God is all knowing and I believe God sent His Son to redeem man from sin.
---shira4368 on 7/16/13


Shira, I really do not know again what you are complaining about. I am not against everyone been on one mind. In fact all those who are genuinely save are of one mind. That are spiritually baptized into one body in Christ. They are one body in Christ. On the other hand, the visible church is not on one mind. Many tares are in the visible church bringing their own personal ideas. They have been in the Church since the Apostolic church begin. Paul talk a lot about them. Just maybe this answer will comfort you. And again, maybe not.
---Mark_V. on 7/16/13


Shira, everyday I do learn more and more. I study every morning from 2 am to 6 am and study every subject in the Bible. I do love you, and also pray that God open's your spiritual eyes and ears so that you too can learn all there is to know about the God of Scripture. Our battle is a spiritual battle. I do not battle you in the flesh, to argue against you, but to teach you what you must learn if you are truely a born again Christian. It is up to you if you want to reject the Truth. It will not effect me, because I am doing my duty as a Christian. Then I turned it to God. He does what He so desires in any persons life. What will happen was already ordained by God to happen. What I do also was already ordained by God that I would do.
---Mark_V. on 7/16/13


markv, each day that passes you just get more and more wisdom don't you? all I did was read your post. another thing you will post on predestination and turn around and post the opposite on another blog. I'm not the only one who sees this. you don't have to tell me what I know...I do know "some things". one is just watching your answers.
---shira4368 on 7/15/13


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markv, I just read what you posted and you said it. God don't expect trouble in the church. God does not want trouble in the church and it is laid out how to handle sin in the church.
---shira4368 on 7/15/13


Shira, you should not even answer topic concerning the Bible. You do not know what you are talking about or even complaining about. Of course we know what the church of Christ should look like and how they should act. That is not the point. We all know that already, church discipline. The point is that false prophets and teachers have entered the church of Christ everywhere. This begin when the church started in the Apostolic church. God did not suddenly find out that was happening. He knows all things, get that right.
---Mark_V. on 7/15/13


markv, why do you tell others the church was suppose to be the opposite of one accord? you know that is not the truth. God does not expect our churches to be full of corruption. the bible teaches we are to be in one accord. we are to pray together, bear one anothers burdens, and fellowship together and we are also are told to bridle our tongue. many churches should emplement all the above. God even tells us about church dicipline and how to handle it. wow, I can't believe you said that.
---shira4368 on 7/14/13


Carla, I see a lot of things wrong in many churches. It was suppose to be that way. The disciples had a lot of trouble within the church when they were alive. False teachers had already joined the church. The antichrist was already in the church. The disciple foretold what was going to be in the future within the church. God has not missed out on anything. He has always been faithful to keep a remnant for Himself all through history. That is why I do not worry so much on what is going on, since God already knew it would happen. No matter how bad things get, God has it all in hand. That to me is the God I know. We can make a difference within the church when God moves us in that direction. It has to come from Him, and not from within ourselves.
---Mark_V. on 7/14/13


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Mark-v,

The main churches evolved from European English and American evangelist translated from the dead sea scroll into the languages you read your bible from.

However, the trinity based doctrine churches also teach their congregation to harvest in autumn (from the Irish folk law(the god of lou) Chris/tmas Catholicism, Easter which originally is Passover, Sunday worship which is clearly > Sabbath speaking in tongues which is a gift to few only with interpretation, selling in church... list endless

Today Nothing like the new testament church of the bible taught by Paul.
---Carla on 7/13/13


Carla, I have no clue what the European Church teaches. I live in the USA. I know what the Bible teaches. It teaches that God had a plan before the foundation of the world within the Godhead, and that the plan would unfold in time, which is what we are experiencing today. We are also told what will be in the future. And when we get there, it will be as God ordained everything to be. Any powers in this world are permitted by God within His plan. God raises up kings, and also brings them down. Everything in the plan will be done. God does not learn anything, He already knows every detail.
---Mark_V. on 7/13/13


Mark-v,

It is not what I believe it is what the European church has taught that I don't particular believe, that includes your kings who changed Laws,date and times, to fit their theology when Paul clearly states you don't need excellence of speech to understand since it is a simple message, the powers that rule European, American society explained in Daniel and Revelation are at the heart of the destruction of this world.
A system that cannot be blended with the truth because your church system is corrupt with heresies fables and traditions of men.
---Carla on 7/12/13


Carla, you did a lot of talk, but what is your point? Are you saying that Jesus name is not Jesus? That Christ is not Christ? That the Son was not Jesus Christ? If you have something to say, at least make your point, this way I can answer you.
I do read a lot of books concerning Scripture. In order to know God, I read everything I can concerning God. All the books are written by man. Even the Bible. So what is your point about the Bible? You do not believe it? What?
---Mark_V. on 7/8/13


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Mark-v

Those who know better do better.

you follow books that were put together by men who could not possibly understand the true nature of The almighty God, or even his written word.

You call him Jesus and say he is the I am when the bible clearly tells you that

Philippians 2:6
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.


Isa 28:10 For precept [must be] upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, [and] there a little:
---Carla on 7/7/13


Hello,everyone, it been a good while but how good it is to be able God bless share and sup at the table of wisdom and with God's people. Well I ask God can I get in - I see often on prayerRoom people suffer like had experience years ago me self, worried about voodoo curse demons etc.. the bible really help me,Jesus blood help me,people Satan attacks the mind he knows if you fearfull, doubt, inuendo the bible tells us don't give place to him, many ways one can open that door..I used to take the bible bed with me
Read aloud..more and more.I began to gain strength and love cast out fear,Jesus blood cast out fear..trust Jesus,don't give nothing over to the enemy.amen
---lidia4796 on 7/7/13


Moderator permit- Lord just wanted to thankyou for being so good to me
and I pray to be a bit more
humble and forgive me every offence. Thankyou,CNT. It.hard always be alone. We are family. Had to use new name, stalked by someone online. Love of Jesus! lidia 4796
---lidia4796 on 7/7/13


Yeshuah or Iesous is the earliest pronounceable name of the saviour.
---Carla on 6/26/13


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We are not engaged in a human, physical warfare.
Catherine

You're not? Seems to me this is exactly there you are!
In some kind of a war over whom the rulers are.

Even here you're telling me.
There some conflict where life in Christ is lived!

Because, if you were really living in the Christ.
You would know the peace, not only in yourselves, but in each other!
Knowing that Christ has put all things in subjection under him!

Heb_2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet.
For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him.
But now we see not yet all things put under him.

Who are you fighting?
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/25/13


We are not engaged in a human, physical warfare. [1] Wrestle--to throw or swing. [2] Against--presents the idea of a personal foe, face-to-face and hand to hand conflict to the finish, a life and death struggle. [Paul is not describing a Sunday School picnic]. [3] Principalities--refer to high-ranking hierarchy of demonic authority. [4]--Powers--Invested with authority. [5] Rulers of the darkness of this world--The world rulers in revolt against God and limited to "this darkness" here on earth. [6] Spiritual wickedness--The army of invisible wicked spirits. [7] in high places--The sphere of this conflict is in the heavenlies, where life in Christ is lived.
---Catherine on 6/25/13


Carla, you said:
" it begs a deep study of what theses things are, how to pronounce them properly to deal with them effectively?.We say Jesus when the saviours name is not Jesus."
Meaning, if you do not pronounce Jesus name properly Jesus will not hear us. Then say His name is not Jesus. Where is this from?
Jesus is God, and as God we know,
"Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: But all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do" (Heb. 4:13) and we also know,
"For I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them" (Eze. 11:5) So do you think if you do not pronounce His name correctly He will not respond?
---Mark_V. on 6/24/13


TheSeg on 6/23/13
good posts
---francis on 6/24/13


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Seg, Satan does not bother his followers but if you are a Christian, Satan will bother you. satan will attack you at every turn you make. He would love to ruin your testimony because he knows you will be ineffective as a Christian.
---shira4368 on 6/24/13


"The devil doesn't leave you along just because you are in Christ"! Amen to that.
---catherine on 6/24/13


The devil does not leave us alone simple because we are in Christ
francis

Yes, I know! I see many fighting with him every day over the higher powers.

So then:
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners, and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
---TheSeg on 6/23/13


---TheSeg on 6/23/13

1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

The devil does not leave us alone simple because we are in Christ

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].


But God gives us the victory
---francis on 6/23/13


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francis
So it is against the devil and his demons that we are at war.

How can you be at war?
1Co_15:57 But thanks be to God, (which giveth us the victory) through our Lord Jesus Christ.

After having shown them openly!
Col_2:15 And having spoiled (principalities and powers), (he made a shew of them openly), triumphing over them in it.

As Servant said
If evil were a force, then you could blame your sins on evil, from a power beyond your own. NO ONE can make you sin, the responsibility lies on your own shoulders.
As God said all have sinned.

And Pharisee
Unbreakable logic SHOWS that it's not God's work because it will have its end.


But actually everything created will end!
Rev_21:1
---TheSeg on 6/23/13


Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

So it is against the devil and his demons that we are at war

BUTTTTTTTTTTTT

CHrist having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Colossians 2:15


1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, [even] our faith.
---francis on 6/22/13


"Agree with - Much - respect for all your replies."

Like wise Char. Good to see you posting again.
---Josef on 6/19/13


Carla
Especially when dealing with these evil presences.

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

I believe this:
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

I would rather tell a man those things which ye do hear and see:
The dead are raised up and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/19/13


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2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Is a matter of recognising what the bible truly says and do it?

like pronouncing names correctly since if I ask my brother in his name to do something how can I expect my sister to answer.

Are we really following the correct guideline?
since Jeremiah: states they have changed dates and times>

meaning using different letters for English when one can clearly address Christ by the pronunciation of his original name especially when dealing with these evil presences ???
---Carla on 6/19/13


---Josef on 6/16/13
---aka on 6/15/13
Agree with - Much - respect for all your replies.

I will add:
Dan 8:23-24 "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up."

24 "And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power, and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People."

continued'
---char on 6/19/13


continued
---Josef on 6/16/13
---aka on 6/15/13
Agree, with Much- respect for all your replies.

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand, and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes, but he shall be broken without hand."

II Thess 2:4, "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God, shewing [calling] himself that he is God."


The "Abomination by the desolator" spoken of Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15.

continue...
---char on 6/19/13


---Josef on 6/16/13
---aka on 6/15/13
Agreed , with Much- respect for all your replies.


Praising God as father for His instructions in Eph 6 (all)

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may be able to with stand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."

May God Bless you brothers,

Shalom
---char on 6/19/13


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Here here!

Rom_3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

I'm like a man with a shovel and a bucket walking behind a horse.
Once you know the bucket is full, there is no more you can put into it.

Don't take this the wrong way!
My cup runneth over.

Rom_14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Php_2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth,
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/18/13


//Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. // the Seq

i don't have many hairs to split.

Of sinners, I am chief.
---aka on 6/18/13


Guys hello, Im not saying there isnt any evil on earth.
What Im saying is everything evil, came from evil.

Evil has taken many forms since its creation.
But absolutely everything that is evil came from evil.


aka you said
There is part of me that is of God.

No! Every part of you is from God.
Howbeit some parts have been influenced by evil.
Making them evil, but they are no longer of you.

Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Christ will
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/17/13


TheSeg,

There is part of me that is of God. And there is a part of me that is of flesh influenced by everything but God.

O wretched man am I!
---aka on 6/17/13


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Basically, Seg, there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience." (in Ephesians 2:2) Satan's evil spirit can work very hard, using his emotions to drive people after pleasure. Also, in people's minds, the wrong spirit can have people thinking what he wants them to decide and understand.

We become stronger against his spirit, by refusing to argue or complain > Philippians 2:14-16.

So, he does not only "read people's minds", but can be the one who has people think what they decide to believe.

And we Christians are not perfect. So our imperfect character can have us available to how he would effect us to think and feel and desire. So we need to grow in Jesus > 1 John 4:17-18, 2 Timothy 1:7.
---willie_c on 6/17/13


Carla I hear you, but all these things were corrupted by evil.
Just as man was, corrupted.

What I mean is, well, I believe everything has been corrupted by evil.
Why do I say this? Because when it comes to evil and sin, all hear everybody say is:
No not me, I don't do that. Not understanding there is none good, no not one!

They separate themselves, actually saying I'm not like that person! Well then they must be better!
Luk_18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

Everybody says we are all guilty before god.
But when I hear them speak, I don't hear it!
That's all I'm saying. Mat_23:31!
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/17/13


"Ps I was just wondering why Josef said Gordon."
The Seg, It was simply a mistake on my part. I apologize to both you and Gordon. My response was to your blog question. I have no idea why I prefixed it with Gordon.
---Josef on 6/17/13


There are different evils that exist,
one sent by God,( Saul) arrows (lightening),that fileth by day???

Di-mons (demons)and many others exist to challenge and take over your body...boy this subject is not easy, it begs a deep study of what theses things are, how to pronounce them properly to deal with them effectively?.We say Jesus when the saviours name is not Jesus. It is pronounced differently using different consonance's and even more striking is the confusion of healing, if you don't address the issues of oppressive spirits how can you cast them out? I know from using the name Jesus is a battle... >>WHO<<< Confused us ???
---Carla on 6/17/13


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aka are you saying youve never been influened by evil?
Were not the all angels of God? What about Moses at Num 20:10?
The apostles at Act 15:39? Were they not all of God?
Because you are influenced by evil and do wrong does mean you are evil?
Well yes I know it does. But you are not pure evil.
These things are!

Ps I was just wondering why Josef said Gordon.
But I see there is another Blod.
Peace
---TheSeg on 6/16/13


ironically, i am the Seg, but that was taken. i had to chosse aka.

no...however, i am joseph, and there were three or four of us at the time. we were really popular and made it seem like one person had three or four personalities.
---aka on 6/16/13


Or maybe they're just influence by them.
LOL

Peace
---TheSeg on 6/16/13


Gordon and I do agree on a lot.

If one is influenced by ... let's say ... God, isn't he of God?

If one is influenced by principalities isn't he of principalities?
---aka on 6/16/13


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aka are you Also Known As Gordon??
Just asking.

I agree with Josef there!
The persons, hosts, and individuals are influent by these things.
But are not these things!

Thats the thing, I feel evil is not:
A person, a host or an individual!
Its principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness, spiritual wickedness!
None of these are singular.

Peace
---TheSeg on 6/16/13


Gordon, the verse references the powerful inspirational forces that influences man's thoughts, motives, purpose, desires and actions. Spiritual authorities greater than man, that tends to the hindering of man's insight into the Divine things of The Father. Hinderances that contribute to man's ignorance in respect to those Divine things, man's duties as concerning those things, as well as man's duty to The Father. Leading the man who fails to submit to the Grace and Divine inspiration of our Father to all sorts of ungodliness and immorality in this present age.
---Josef on 6/16/13


It is talking about persons, hosts, and individuals AND it is it talking about forces, thoughts and ideas.
---aka on 6/15/13


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