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No Mother In God-Head

In the Three-Person GOD-Head, we have a Father and a Son. Why not a Mother also?

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nikki lol, that was funny. the only thing that masculinity should not be is with the female. females should not be masculine. lol
---shira4368 on 7/14/13


Eve was a after thought when Adam needed a mate.
---Nikki on 7/14/13

Don't know about after thought
but WO-MAN what a thought!!!!
---francis on 7/14/13


We feminized everything!
Can we leave God out of it.

There isn't anything wrong with being masculine.

God is neither man or woman, but the masculine attribute seems more logical because God made Adam first.
Eve was a after thought when Adam needed a mate.
---Nikki on 7/14/13


---aka on 7/13/13

2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort,

2 Corinthians 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

Notice that the PRIMARY SOURCE is God, Masculine
and we in turn, male and or female, may comfort others with the conform that we receive from God

So comforting other human beings is not solely an attribute of men, women are also able to do this too. But it originates with God, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort,
---francis on 7/14/13


In the Spanish language, words usually have either a masculine or feminine spelling---francis

I asked my father, and he said you are correct, but he couldn't think of a word for me to give to you. If he does soon I will tell you.

But, if Jesus give the Holy Spirit a masculine attribute, why are there any questions?

John 16:7-16
"...But if I go, I will send HIM to you. And when HE comes HE will convict the world....V13 when HE comes, the Spirit of truth, HE will guide you to all truth. HE will not speak on HIS own, but HE will speak what HE hear, and will declare to you the things that are coming. HE will glorify ME, because HE will take from what is..

Never once does Jesus makes the Holy Spirit feminine.
---Nikki on 7/14/13




Aka i gave srcripture
---francis on 7/13/13

so, since you gave scripture, then you are saying that comfort and delivery is a male attribute only?
---aka on 7/13/13


Aka i gave srcripture
---francis on 7/13/13


Do you mean soley or at all?
---aka on 7/12/13
Solely - francis

yes, because i have assisted at delivery but never delivered, and the most people go to their mother for comforting even if both parents are comforting.

case in point, i know a man who comforted his kids for five years in the absence of their mother. but, when she returned, they seek her comfort even though they know the father gives it freely.

also, did you ever see a sports figure say "hi, dad...i love you" while the camera was on them? chances are it was the father that pushed them to be were they are. but, it is mom who gets the love. kids will always seek out the comfort of their mother. they deliver.
---aka on 7/13/13


Do you mean soley or at all?
---aka on 7/12/13
Solely good point

2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort,

2 Corinthians 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

There are some things in the bible, that people can have a different opinion about, which would not change a doctrine. Mostly we can disagree on the meaning of a verse. It concerns me a lot, when people get entire doctrine wrong, accept entire false teachings.
---francis on 7/13/13


Francis, Please go back and read my reply On July 6, where I addressed both issues that you raised. I even agreed with you that both male and female can be comforters.
---barb on 7/12/13




He is always refered to by the masculine pronoun
---francis on 7/12/13

this has been covered before.

//Comfort and Delivery are not feminine atributes.//

Do you mean soley or at all?
---aka on 7/12/13


NIKKI NIKKI NIKKI NIKKI

This is where nikki can be very helpful

In the Spanish language, words usually have either a masculine or feminine spelling

But there are some exceptions to that. Some words although masculine or feminine in nature do have the opposite ending

maybe that is what you you have ran across in the study of the phrase Holy Spirit
---francis on 7/12/13


Barb, you said in one post that the holy spirit was feminine because "she" provided comfort. I posted scriptures that said the Father and the Son both comforted people.
You then stated that the Holy Spirit was feminine because "she" delivers . I then provided scriptures that said the Father and Son also delivers.

Comfort and Delivery are not feminine atributes. The holy ghost is not feminine. He is always refered to by the masculine pronoun
---francis on 7/12/13


Francis, I agree that Jesus was with the Father from the beginning. He was in the Father and the Father was in Him. Jesus was never "born" in Heaven because He was always in God and with God.

Jesus called Himself the Son of Man and the Son of God. He was the Son of Man because He came into the world the same way that we all do thru the birth canal of a woman. His earthly body was that of flesh and blood. He is the Son of God because He is made up of the same spiritual matter as God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. They are a family.

When I say that the Holy Spirit is feminine I mean that She is the mother figure of the family. I am not talking about the physical but the spiritual.





---barb on 7/11/13


---barb on 7/11/13
Jesus was with the father from the begining

he was not BORN, key world here is born, in heaven

he was born in a manger
---francis on 7/11/13


Francis, your Mary story does not hold water either. Jesus lived in Heaven before He was sent into the world. Mary was not His biological mother but was the container into which God placed His Son.

I never use Acts to prove a point but if you want to go there than please continue from Acts 7:38 into verse 39 where it says that the fathers (of Israel) did not obey but thrust Him from them. So who is the church that presented Jesus to the world? The followers of Jesus tried to bring the Word of God to the Nations but were murdered, imprisoned or fled into the wilderness with the Spirit of Truth.

Your 3rd point is good but which church today keeps the commandments of God and holds to the testimony of Jesus?
---barb on 7/11/13


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---barb on 7/10/13
Jesus was not born in heaven, he was born on earth, by Mary, and presented to the world by the church

the church existed before Penticost: Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

and thirdly, the church has always been identified by those who belive in Jesus and obeyed God Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Rev 14:12 the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Your feminine HS story does not hold water
---francis on 7/11/13


Francis, the only one (apart from the Holy Spirit and the Father) who was attempting to present Jesus to the world was John the Baptist and he was in the wilderness.

Yes, I believe that the Spirit of Truth fled into the wilderness. After Jesus' death, His followers were persecuted, killed or thrown in jail. Those who survived did so in the wilderness. The Truth in the form of the Holy Spirit was with them.

The earth helped the Woman when the people fled the lies coming from the mouth of the serpent who was deceiving the nations into believing that he was their god.

---barb on 7/11/13


---barb on 7/10/13
It is the church the called out one who presents Jesus to the world


Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.

are you suggesting that the holy spirit fled into the wilderness?
---francis on 7/10/13


shira,

many believe that i and the Father are the same means that they are the same being. i believe it means that they are separate beings one in purpose. therefore, the "gender" issue would not effect each other. jesus and the HS are one...in purpose also. that does not mean that they have the same "gender".
---aka on 7/10/13


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Peter, I love what you wrote. Godliness is indeed a mystery.

Hi, chria, it's good to read you again.
---aka on 7/10/13


--Rober7995 on 7/10/13

autos is the word used for Him. Actually, him. what version do you have that capitalizes the h in him or is that your bias? autos is a reflexive pronoun that refers to the Helper. the more correct translation is "the aforementioned". it is really not translatable. Talking about bias like yours, what gender were the translators?

the danger is your perception. there is only one unforgivable sin. and i do not deny the holy spirit.

jesus makes it clear that many who come in his name will be turned away. i cannot fear that decision. if he turns me away, that is his perfect decision.
---aka on 7/10/13


We have to remember that when we talk about gender, this is not biological gender, and so what the 'gender' of God means may be something too hard for us to understand

It is certainly more complex than we initially assume
---Peter9556 on 7/10/13


chria, I probably read it wrong like I've been doing lately. I wasn't attacking you for sure. I love your answers here on cn.
---shira4368 on 7/10/13


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Well, whether Wisdom is the Holy Spirit or not (and I believe she is) how do we ignore Rev. 12? The woman is in Heaven and is giving birth to Jesus and eventually will give birth to the rest of her offspring who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. These latter ones can only be those born into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Who is the woman?

1. the church who did not exist at the time of Jesus' birth and has never been without sin?

2. Israel, who was told by Jesus that the Kingdom would be taken away from them and that their house was desolate?

3. The Holy Spirit who is, and always will be sinless perfection?

---barb on 7/10/13


aka on 7/9/13 says:

"There is nothing in the Hebrew or Greek Scriptures that indicate that holy spirit is a male or a female. So it stands to reason with me."

Hey aka,

Besides the two below there are others.

Jhn. 16:7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you, but if I depart, I will send Him to you.


Jhn 16:8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

If I may say so, I think speaking about a female or mother in the Godhead is treading on dangerous ground.

In His grace

rober7995
---Rober7995 on 7/10/13


I was simply thinking about being taught a long time ago that wisdom in prov is the HS
---chria9396 on 7/10/13
I understand

i am sorry that you were misseducated on this. But wisdom is not the HS, it is an atribute of God from the begining. It speaks to us that God knew exactly what he was doing, and was using his great wisdom to reat the universe
( intellegent design)
---francis on 7/10/13


aka I can see what your point is but my point was Jesus is coming back to get His bride. the saved are His bride...all I said was how can Jesus who is God in the flesh and if the Holy Spirit is a female, then there is no bride for a female.
---shira4368 on 7/10/13


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---aka
"godliness is a mystery"
" if it is through my understanding that i am saved, i am already damned no matter what I think"
"lord, forgive me for my limited humanity"
Agree.
francis on 7/7/13
Yes, God throughout scripture HE, Father
Ive always thought of God as Father and He, never she, and have not meant to imply otherwise. I was simply thinking about being taught a long time ago that wisdom in prov is the HS
---chria9396 on 7/10/13


Shira, you asked how Jesus can be female. I never said that he was.

I said the Godhead is made of three seperate beings...father, holy spirit, and son. If your Godhead consists of three males, this is fine. My one God(head) consists of a family structure.

There is nothing in the Hebrew or Greek Scriptures that indicate that holy spirit is a male or a female. So it stands to reason with me.

To you it makes sense that your Godhead consists of three men based on tradition and English translators.
---aka on 7/9/13


I said Jesus and the God head are never female. I was making a comment on what someone else posted. I know Jesus isn't female.
---shira4368 on 7/9/13


shira, no part of the bible was in english, really?

how can Jesus take a bride if part of Jesus is female? ---shira4368 on 7/8/13

who said Jesus is female?

shira, i believe there is one Divinity (Godliness, Government, Kingdom...God) that consists of three separate and distinct beings.

just as some men have one govt that consists of three separate and distinct branches. without one...they all fall...like what is happening today.

//no rhyme or reason here.// so it makes sense to you that His bride is made of males and females? no reason there.
---aka on 7/8/13


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---barb on 7/8/13
Provers is talking about wisdom, not the holy spirit

Proverbs 4:4 keep my commandments, and live.

Proverbs 7:2 Keep my commandments, and live

Would you also say that the commandments is theholy spirit? NO of course not

So proverbs sys wisdom is the main thing, get wisdom.
Does not say that the HS is feminine
---francis on 7/8/13


. . . helping our Father, interceding like a wife for her children > Romans 8:26.
---willie_c: on 7/8/
Does not Jesus also interseed?

Romans 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

So your idea the holy sprit to as a wife because HE interceeds is out of line
---francis on 7/8/13


aka, no part of the bible was ever originally in English.
---shira4368 on 7/8/13


Francis, "The Lord possessed me in the beginning of His Way, before His works of old. I was set up from everlasting before the beginning before the earth was." Prov. 8:20-31.

Prov 8:35-36 "For whosoever finds me finds life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord. But he that sins against me wrongs his own soul, all they that hate me love death."

Matt 12:31-32. "All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men but blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."
---barb on 7/8/13


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Possibly because God is neither male nor female . . . like we become because of being in Jesus > Galatians 3:28. But using the terms "Father" and "Son" show how "God is love" (1 John 4:8 & 16) . . . family caring and sharing love, and therefore personal.

So, He is not merely some theoretical-theological whatever intellectual, but desires to have us sharing with Him as family (c:

The Holy Spirit is called "Holy Spirit", in order to help bring us to realizing God is spiritual, though having love Persons. But the Holy Spirit does mothering things, bringing up us children of God and preparing us for our Groom . . . helping our Father, interceding like a wife for her children > Romans 8:26.
---willie_c: on 7/8/13


aka, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God is referred as male and the 3 parts are one. no woman in the Godhead. when Jesus comes back to earth to gather His bride, the family will be complete. how can Jesus take a bride if part of Jesus is female? no rhyme or reason here. God is male...all three parts.
---shira4368 on 7/8/13


Francis: 'and tell me what my position is on the gender of the holy spirit'

For some reason, while the Father and the Son have always been male in both English and Greek (Hebrew I know not), in English the Holy Spirit is normally male but in Greek it is neuter (it).

But 'spirit' is an 'it' in Greek for a man or a woman.

It is a language thing
---Peter9556 on 7/7/13


sorry to tell you the Holy Spirit is always male.
---shira4368 on 7/6/13
in places the Holy Spirit is referred to as he.
---chria9396 on 7/7/13

that is in english. however, the new testament was not written in english. the word used in greek could be translated as she, he, or it...depending. (it...we know, cliff.)

Godliness is a mystery. family (father, mother, children) is the most important setup that the world is trying to take away. for me, it just makes sense...not only in my head, but in my heart.

however, if it is through my understanding that i am saved, i am already damned no matter what I think. i just do not relate to a Godhead of three men.

lord, forgive me for my limited humanity.
---aka on 7/7/13


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"Adam could not pass down this " image of God" to Seth after he sinned, Adam could only pass own his new image, the sin nature"
francis on 7/7/13

Ezekiel 18:2_24 "What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. Behold ...."


Lay off grandpa's sauce francis.
---Nana on 7/7/13


Man, made in Gods image, male and female,
---chria9396 on 7/7/13
Man made is God's image: Without sin, not male and female

Gen 1:27 So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created HE him, male and female created HE them.

So after sin what happened:
Gen 5:3 Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image, and called his name Seth:

Adam could not pass down this " image of God" to Seth after he sinned, Adam could only pass own his new image, the sin nature

So Seth is like Adam a sinner in need of grace, that is the image of Adam after sin

Then came Jesus who never sinned

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God,
---francis on 7/7/13


Francis "Wisdom is port raid as she, not the holy spirit"
Not sure what you mean by port raid,do you mean portrayed? and not saying I agree or disagree. Who or what is wisdom here? True wisdom is (from) God. Theres also mans "wisdom". Can man, in his wisdom kill beasts? Or think he can? Paul refers to fighting with beasts after the manner of men in Ephesus. 1 Cor 15:32
As for the Holy Spirit, yes, in places the Holy Spirit is referred to as he.
Man, made in Gods image, male and female, so?????
God, complete, one
---chria9396 on 7/7/13


Gordon:

It might make sense to have a father + mother + son godhead if we were creating a man-made pantheon. But we're not, so we don't get to make the rules.
---StrongAxe on 7/6/13


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sorry to tell you the Holy Spirit is always male.
---shira4368 on 7/6/13
O.K. seems like you have not read what I am posting before you posted.

This happens a lot on CN because many Christians are contentious.

So please review my post on this blog, and tell me what my position is on the gender of the holy spirit
---francis on 7/7/13


We are only human.

That type of question: WHY IS GOD LIKE THAT?

Is something we have absolutely no way to answer

We read scripture, we learn, but we have no way to know why
---Peter9556 on 7/7/13


"In the Three-Person GOD-Head" There is no three person GOD Head.
"[There is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him, and one Lord, Jesus [The] Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all. There is one God, and there is none other but He: Know therefore this day, and consider [it] in thine heart, that the LORD He [is] God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: [there is] none else."
"Why not a Mother also?" No need, The Son was brought forth solely of Father, with His power manifest through the Son. Christ [is] the power of God and the wisdom of God.
---joseph on 7/7/13


Actually, my understanding is that Spirit is neither male nor female. Though "spirit" can certainly embody attributes male and female. God is 3 in one. Jesus clearly was God in a male body, thus male. God is Spirit however and has female and male attributes. In a Patriarchal society it is natural that He would be Father God. Jesus is the Son. Holy Spirit, being part of the Godhead, has been referred to as "He" also, I think just to be consistent. I feel the Holy Spirit has a lot of feminine qualities, like hovering over us and birthing new life. I do not think it a big deal if one focuses on Spirit's feminine qualities. Just remember the male qualities of being the giver of power, etc. No need to argue the point.
---Judy_Chapman-Pelayo on 7/7/13


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Francis, proverbs is not speaking of the Holy Spirit. Do you not know what a proverb is? sorry to tell you the Holy Spirit is always male.
---shira4368 on 7/6/13


-barb on 7/6/13
Proverbs 1:20 Wisdom crieth without, she uttereth her voice in the streets:

Proverbs 7:4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister, and call understanding thy kinswoman:

Proverbs 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

Proverbs 9:1 Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:

In proverbs, wisdom and understanding are given feminine pronouns.

But wisdom, and understanding are not the holy spirit

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.
---francis on 7/6/13


Francis, I never said that bread and wine were the Holy Spirit. The Bread and Wine is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

Read Prov 8 & 9 again. Wisdom is preparing a feast and asking whosoever will to come and dine on the Words of Her Son which are the Bread of Life and the Wine of the true Vine. John 15:1. She is giving an invitation, she is going to teach all those who are willing, she is going to feed them with the Word. That is the job of the Holy Spirit / Spirit of Truth (John 14:16-17) to lead us into all Truth. John 14:26, John 15:12-16. "He shall receive of mine and show it unto you." Someone (I think it was aka) has already explained the He/She wording in the bible.
---barb on 7/6/13


---barb on 7/6/13
You have a losing argument not supported by one shred of biblical doctrine
1: You claimed that providing comfort was feminine role. I gave several text that shows Jesus and the Father BOTH MEN providing comfort
2: You say that the holy spirit delivers as a mother giving birth. I gave several text showing the Father and Jesus delivering
3: Now you talk about the bread of life and wine. Do i need to show you that Jesus A MALE is the bread of life and his blood the wine?

Th idea that the Holy Spirit is a feminine is heresy, the Bible refers to the Holy Spirit as HE

Wisdom is port raid as she, not the holy spirit
---francis on 7/6/13


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Francis, I agree that men and women can be comforters but I believe that the Comforter that Jesus was speaking about in John 16:7 is the Holy Spirit.

The verses that you used are not using the word "deliver" or "deliverer" in the same context as giving birth. John 3:5 "Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannnot enter into the Kingdom of God." And John 3:8.

Thanks to Chira for those beautiful chapters in Proverbs that she recommended.
---barb on 7/6/13


Really, Francis? Wisdom is preparing a meal, she has set her table and killed her beast (dinner). "Come and eat of my bread and drink of the wine which I have mingled", verse 5.

John 6:51 and John 7:37-38, Here we see The Bread of life and the Wine to quench the thirst for truth and wisdom. Sounds to me like she is preparing a feast and sending out an invitation.
---barb on 7/6/13


Proverbs 9
Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
She hath killed her beasts, she hath mingled her wine, she hath also furnished her table.
She hath sent forth her maidens: she crieth upon the highest places of the city

Proverbs 7:4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister, and call understanding thy kinswoman:

proverbs 8 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors

These speak of WISDOM not the holy spirit for when did the holy spirit kill any beast?
---francis on 7/5/13


You guys are trying to answer a very stupid question.
"Why not a Mother also?"
God doesn't have to have a wife to create anything. When He speaks, it's done.
We do not look like God, God is Spirit. Jesus is the image of God because He is God. "In Our image" defines man's unique relation to God. Man is a living being capable of embodying God's communicable attributes (Gen. 9:6: Rom. 8:29: Col. 3:10: James 3:9). in his rational life, man was like God in that he could reason and had intellect, will, and emotion. In the moral sense, he was like God because he was good and sinless. That is all. All the other stuff about a woman is some sick idea.
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-barb on 7/5/13
I posted three scriptures where God ( the father) and Jesus provides comfort,

Can God THE FATHER AND THE SON deliver?

Psalms 7:1 O LORD my God, in thee do I put my trust: save me from all them that persecute me, and deliver me:

Psalms 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer,

Psalms 22:4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

Psalms 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me, thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Isaiah 51:3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places,

your delivery and comfort fable is BUNKERS
---francis on 7/5/13


Proverbs 8 and 9, wisdom is feminine, she, and her used throughout
---chria9396 on 7/5/13


Francis, Jesus, in the flesh was masculine. Although the Holy Spirit never came in the flesh we know She was sent as a Comforter and Teacher to Jesus' followers after He returned home. Have you never as a man comforted anyone?

God calls Jesus His Son. Jesus tells us that He is the Son of God over and over again. Giving birth is a feminine trait. Jesus taught us that it is the Holy Spirit who delivers us into the Kingdom of God thru spiritual birth. John 3:5-8. Also see Matt 1:20, Rev. 12.
---barb on 7/5/13


--barb on 7/5/13
Give ONE example where the holy spirit has ONE feminine trait that Jesus does not have

"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.

As a mother comforts her child, so will I comfort you, and you will be comforted over Jerusalem."

But God, who comforts the downcast, comforted us by the coming of Titus,
---francis on 7/5/13


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Francis, of course God is a Spirit but He has spiritual traits and characteristics just as He made us in the flesh in His image with the same. We can see His character all thru the old testament and in His Son's testimony of Him.

He tells us He a jealous God, revenge belongs to Him, He is slow to anger, He will not forgive blasphemy, He forgives and forgets or not, He knows regret, He feels hate and love, sorrow and disgust, joy and sadness.

When I say that the Holy Spirit is feminine I am not talking about body parts but about spiritual traits.
---barb on 7/5/13


Image of God is not a physical characteristic. God is spirit, Adam and Eve were not spirits

Image of God refers to the sinless nature of God

When Seth was born, he was said to be in the image of his Father ( righteous by faith ) since he was a sinner

Only Jesus Christ, after Adam and Eve is said to be in the image of God, meaning again without sin

So image of God is not male or female
---francis on 7/4/13


cluny, that is true.
---aka on 7/4/13


**//I believe that the Holy Spirit is the feminine side of God[liness]. //barb

there are three reasons that she is a character in Divinity and not just a characteristic of.**

The Bible also says you can believe a lie and be damned.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/4/13


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//I believe that the Holy Spirit is the feminine side of God[liness]. //barb

there are three reasons that she is a character in Divinity and not just a characteristic of.

- Gen. We(Elohim) made them (male and female) in our image.
- God (the Father) would not super-impose Himself or any other "male" on Mary. it was the Holy Spirit that brought their son to us. the Spirit was a surrogate in effect.
- Women used to be the comforters and not men.

("he" in any verse in reference to the holy spirit can be translated as she and it also.)
---aka on 7/4/13


Because a spirit is neither male nor female.

We only become male or female when we are put into a fleshly body.
God is not male or female. He is spirit that must be worshipped in spirit and truth.
The only real male in the God Head is Christ when he came to be in a fleshly body. Before that he was not male or female, He was the Word. John 1:1
---g on 7/4/13


A servant, Jesus was the Word and the Word was with God and WAS God. That is exactly what I am saying. Jesus is God as is the Holy Spirit. Jesus is and always has been "I AM". They have always been and always will be. They proceeded forth and came from Him. John 15:26.

I believe that the Holy Spirit is the feminine side (characteristic) of God. God is a Spirit and He created us in His image, both male and female. If God does not have a feminine side then who created the woman?
---barb on 7/3/13


Oh, barb. I am sorry but God did not bring His family forth out of Himself. Scripture even says in the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. On multiple accounts, we are shown that:

God is the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ separately and the same, the distinction was given because our finite minds cannot truly grasp the infinite.
---A_servant on 7/3/13


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\\Thanx, Clowny, you really cleared this up for me. *whew*
---Gordon on 7/2/1\\

I know you think you're being witty, Gordon.

You could be half right, at that.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/3/13


God took Eve out of Adam. She was formed from his rib and was bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh. Isn't that the same as the Holy Spirit proceeding forth from the Father? John 15:26.

God brought His Family forth out of Himself just as He brought Eve out of Adam so that their children would come forth from them. God's Family is a perfect union that He wants all of mankind to experience. John 17:20-23. So what happened? Disobedience. Yep, there is that troublesome word again.
---barb on 7/3/13


francis, It says in those Verses you quoted that GOD created man in HIS own Image, MALE and FEMALE created HE them.

"Man" = "mankind in general"

"Male and female" is a break-down of what that "man" or "mankind" encompasses.

The male (Adam) was created first, but that doesn't mean that Eve also was not created in GOD's Image as well.

Because both Adam and Eve were made in like fashion of the Image of the THREE-PERSON Entity called "GOD" (or, more accurately, "ELOHIM".)
---Gordon on 7/3/13


Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.

So from day 1, God is male all three of them
---francis on 7/2/13


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Thanx, Clowny, you really cleared this up for me. *whew*
---Gordon on 7/2/13


Please consider this:

Gal4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Jerusalem is heaven. All her children are born from above.

Now also please consider this:
Luke1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Even a dumb country boy knows that it takes a male and a female to conceive a child. Who needs to understand Greek, when you have common sense. Maybe that's too simplistic for the wise and prudent???
---trey on 7/2/13


Because this is God's nature.

Deal.

And the Holy Spirit is NOT feminine, nor is He Mama Wisdom.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/13


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