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Why Disciples Were Male

Was there a special reason why all 12 disciples were male? If Jesus decided, there must be, but can we guess why.

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Elder, You see Elder if you were really looking for the Truth you would have found it, but your heart is not for the truth, as I can see you try to find fault. Rom. 10:13 is very true, if you believe in your heart in that God raised Jesus from the dead, you will be saved. But you have to believe by faith and the unsaved have no faith so do not call on the name of the Lord, the reason, they are unbelievers. Read the passage after,
"How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed?" (Rom. 10:14). You see they cannot call on Christ who they do not believe. They have to believe, unbelievers do not believe. It's pretty simple, if you were looking for the truth, but you are dishonest, and your heart is not for Christ.
---Mark_V. on 11/18/13


Elder 2: "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed?" It's impossible. The unsaved don't call on the name of the Lord. "How shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? They have to hear the word spiritually in order to receive faith, for "faith comes from hearing, hearing by the Word of God" not physical hearing but spiritual hearing. God draws them to Himself, when the Spirit makes them spiritually alive to Christ. They respond by calling on the name of the Lord. The Spirit testifies of Christ to our hearts. "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you will be saved"
---Mark_V. on 11/18/13


MarkV: I see you have hijacked yet another blog with your stupid anti-free-will rant. You are a cancer on the CN website. Get a clue. Your beef is with your Freewill Baptist brothers - not with the rest of us. What do you call yourselves anyway? The slave-will Baptists or the robot-will Baptists? Give it a rest. We don't care!





---jerry6593 on 11/18/13


jamesl, romans 10 is just saying once again that Christ died for "everyone". vs 11, born again people are not ashamed. verse l2. Christ died for jew, whites, blacks, yellow all people. God does not favor one person over another. vs 13 again whosoever is everyone. vs 14 and 15, God calls men to preach the gospel. God calls men and women to certain ministries but the preacher carries more responsiblilty than others and he will be judged by how he preaches the gospel. some are called for a music ministry, art ministry. all these can be used for the glory of God. now if you got something else out of these verses, you need to study more. God calls preachers to preach to sinners.
---shira4368 on 11/18/13


Shira,
I'm well aware that Elder meant exactly what he said. However, he was talking about context, then pulled Romans 10:13 out of context.

so maybe you'll answer for him and explain why does verse 20 say EXPLICITLY the opposite of what Elder tried to make verse 13 say?

if verse 13 teaches us to ask for God, why does v20 say that God is found by those who do NOT seek Him or ask for Him ??

after all, it's only 7 verses later

do you choose one verse and trash the other ??

will anyone answer ??
---James_L on 11/17/13




The unsaved will never understand the gospel Truth, unless the light of the gospel of Christ shines on them. And it only shines on those the Father wants the light to shine on.
---Mark_V. on 11/16/13


Just MORE gnostic nonsense. What scripture says the LIGHT shines on ONLY those God wants the light to shine on.

So now Markv's God is wondering around with a flashlight shining it on people?

TRUTH: WHEN those like Peter! filled with the Holy Spirit preach the Gospel, there is LIGHT in darkness to turn those from Satan to God. Thy WORD is a LIGHT.....

Maybe because Markv is not preaching the WORD of truth in the power of the Holy Spirit, rendering no light shines from self, or mans words.
---kathr4453 on 11/17/13


ALL reformed churches are Calvinist Churches. And yes, the statement of faith in markv's church IS Calvin. Yet, when I asked him about Calvinism some time back, he also lied, and said he had never heard of Calvinism. Then said, later...oh I've only known about Calvinism for a year now.

Reformed Theology is just another way of saying Calvinism. It is a very DISTINCT theology.

So why do you say Elder pointing that out is finding DIRT?

So you've gone from RCC to WOF Charismatic teaching to Calvin teaching.....your other family members JW. It seems you all love the doctrines of men.

I guess the JW's 144,000 quota was filled, so you found one that tickled your ears?
---kathr4453 on 11/17/13


Mark V,my dear brother,when I was eleven I felt the Spirit of God drawing me to the front of the church where I fell on my knees at an old wooden altar and I too repented from my sins,I didn't ask God to save me either,just forgive me but by my very actions and words I was asking God to save me from sin. Perhaps it is a matter of perception whether we asked to be saved but in my opinion we don't have to speak the words "save me" because out actions and repentance spoke the same thing without words. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 11/17/13


Adetunji on 11/15/13

Just read all about her in judges. She was married at the time. And AGE has nothing to do with God's anointing or calling, then or now. Obedience does.

Jesus even went as far as praising the Queen of Sheba. And if you believe scripture, it is GOD who sets up kings and tears them down.

God, even Calvinists can't argue with, put many QUEENS on their thrones, to be the SOVEREIGN authority over it's nations and people. To say otherwise, using markv's argument would say God is not in control.

The ONLY one in AUTHORITY today is Jesus Christ, HEAD of His Church/body. Being the head of a local church is not a spiritual gift anyway. Deacon is not listed as a spiritual Gift. And anyone can pastor others.
---kathr4453 on 11/17/13


jamesl, elder was showing an example of free will. his post is exactly what he meant it to be.
---shira4368 on 11/17/13




Elder,
it's rather ironic that you speak of "the context of His word" yet you quote Romans 10:13 out of context

How do you reconcile your "understanding" of verse 13 with verse 20, which says God was found by those who did NOT seek Him, and He was made manifest to those who did NOT ask for Him ???

hint: "call on" doesn't mean what you think
---James_L on 11/17/13


MarkV you say a lot to say nothing. There is no one here after you, least of all me.

You must not have a grasp on the truth or the effects of lies. Your limited research of God's Word lacks content.

If you never called on the name of the Lord to Save you how do you reconcile Rom 10:13, "For whosoever shall call?"

There are many false ways Satan has offered to people to make them think they have gained Salvation. You have fell for one of them.

Every question I have asked you was to point you to this. You can reject me that's, OK. Just seek ye first the kingdom of God according to the context of His Word.

When you do you will see there is real hope even for your son.
---Elder on 11/16/13


markv, if what you say is true...(its not) then why do you go to church? do you witness to others and if so, why do you witness? why did you come on christianet if you didn't mean to witness? why do you pray for anyone if God has his mind made up already?
---shira4368 on 11/16/13


Elder 2: When I say something and it is not Truth, then it will have no effect on anyone, for only the Truth does. And it does not have an effect on everyone lost, for the Gospel has no effect on those who are perishing, unless the light of Christ shines on them. None whatsoever.
"But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ who is the image of God, should shine on them." (2 Cor. 4:3,4). The unsaved will never understand the gospel Truth, unless the light of the gospel of Christ shines on them. And it only shines on those the Father wants the light to shine on.
---Mark_V. on 11/16/13


Elder, you never stop. you are always looking for something to grasp, something that you can use against me. If you were someone who really wanted the Truth, I would have answered you a long time ago, but you are not one of those persons, I know that already. But I will answer you. You asked,
"Did you ask God to save you or not?" the answer is NO. One day (April 9th, 1990) I was walking streight to hell, condemned already, without hope, when God the Spirit spoke to me, "Mark why do you sin against Me?" and at that moment my heart was change and I responded with a contrite heart and asked for forgiveness. Hope that helps you in your ministry.
---Mark_V. on 11/16/13


Kathr4453: //Before KINGS, there were "judges" in Israel. Deborah, also someone's wife was chosen by GOD to be a judge over Israel.// Please what was Deborah's age at this time she was used as a prophetess & judge in Israel? Was she answerable to an husband then or what was her situation?
---Adetunji on 11/15/13


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Again MarkV, I just responded to what you said. You need to find out what the "statement of faith" you follow contains.

As always just because you say something doesn't make it true.

How about the question I asked you?
Did you ask God to save you or not? Why won't you answer that question?
---Eder on 11/15/13


I never meant to say women don't belong in the ministry. God gave us the ability to be a witness and the older women to be the teacher of young women. that does not mean women can be a pastor. I have friends who sing and that is their ministry and they minister all over the U.S. and Canada. women have gifts just like men but it just isn't being a pastor or elder.
---shira4368 on 11/15/13


Elder, I knew when I gave Adejunji the information of where I go to church and what confessions of faith I followed, someone like you would try to find dirt. I thought it would be Kathr, but you were the first. By the way, I do not follow Calvin. I hold to the Reform view. I do not look for Calvin churches, I look for Reform Churches who preach the Sovereignty of God. And thousands of brothers have preached the Sovereignty of God, not just Calvin. I read from great man of God who do not believe in the nonsense you believe in "free will." For there is no such thing as man having a will that is free. Hope that helps you.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/13


MarkV, I didn't insult any of your family. I really feel sorry for any person related to you.

You are so vain you thought no one could insult anyone as great as you so it must have been directed at your wife.

For the record from your comments, is your son an atheist or not? Is he one of those that your god chose for Hell?

When I spoke of attitudes that reveal abusive persons you must have thought I was speaking of you personally.

I made a blanket statement of abusive attitudes. I just threw a rock and the dog that got hit yelped.

It's like when you said you were not a Calvinist and later said you hold to the Calvinist statement of faith.
---Elder on 11/14/13


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and the beat goes on....and the beat goes on and on and on.
---shira4368 on 11/14/13


Elder, you say:
'Again Mark I respond to you in like kind. I just thought you would understand the same language that you use."
Did I ever mentioned your family or wife? That you were abusive to her?
There is no reason whatsoever for me to speak about your family, wife or kids. So now you mention you help others, as if it is going to change anything you said. It changes nothing. You have no answer to the word of God, so you resort to insults.
I write the Word of God down, that Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. You say you seek after Christ and found Him. I show where God said,
"there is none who seek after God" you say that is not true. So you get angry and talk about my family.
---Mark_V. on 11/14/13


Look up info on the female apostle Junia, Romans 16:7...you will likely not find ANY other mention (the female name does not have "S" at the end) likely because of male chauvanistic bias (like Deborah?).

Remember who was at Jesus's tomb first...the WOMEN (males neglect to even ACKNOWLEDGE that).

Who did Jesus tell that their lifestyle beliefs ("faith") saved them?.... "WOMAN, your faith has saved you".....Jesus did not say "drink my blood" or "read my book" or "use fancy words in praying", etc.

Jesus only said "Your faith has saved you" (what male can boast this?!!).

In Jesus WORSHIPING, there is no gender...."neither male nor female".
---FAITHFORFAITH on 11/14/13


Again Mark I respond to you in like kind. I just thought you would understand the same language that you use.

I have always posted to encourage you since you are so special. I have worked with special gifted people in the past. They appear more honest and sincere than you do but you are still special.

Your forced salavtion is good enough for you now so you don't have to worry about being part of the household of faith. For by force not faith you are "in." According to you, not God!
---Elder on 11/14/13


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Elder, more insults, what else is new? Your heart must be full of them, they keep coming out. Let them all come out, maybe one day your heart will be clean. Then you finish with,
"That must be why we are told to "Mark" those who are not of the household of faith."
I do not want to be a member of the household of your god. He is helpless, waiting for men to love him. Just maybe they will be kind enough to choose him. He is really without hope because millions reject him.
My God came to seek and to save that which was lost. He seeks them and finds them and actually saves those He seeks.
---Mark_V. on 11/14/13


I just repeat what you said MarkV.

I also respond to you in like kind. You can insult, lie, call names play the part of a fool and it is deemed righteousness by you on your part.

You can't even post the truth of complete Scripture without editing what God really has said. To you that is spiritually and salvation. Yea, your brand of salvation.

That must be why we are told to "Mark" those who are not of the household of faith.
---Elder on 11/13/13


Elder, there you go again, you don't have anything godly to share, so you resort to throwing insults. Insults will not get you points so that you can enter heaven. The only way in is by the grace of God. You need to be born of the Spirit because,
"the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be" (Rom. 8:7). You see you say what you do because you are not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. Which means, you cannot stop yourself. It's in your nature.
---Mark_V. on 11/13/13


Well Markv, I'm looking at the Gifts in Ephesians 4. Not those done away with.

But where in any are there lists that certain belong exclusively to men and others exclusively to women?

Again, those TWINKIES you have been eating has somehow altered your ability to read and reason, and not go off like some crack head here stating things never even in this discussion.
---kathr4453 on 11/13/13


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Kathr, you say,
"Now if MarkV can find any scripture where women were NOT given spiritual GIFTS FOR the Ministry, or are not considered CHRISTIANS, please prove that through scripture."
Not all believers receive the same gifts. Read (1 Cor. 12:8-11) For to one is given the utterance of knowledge, to another faith, to another gifts of healing, to another the working of miracles, and prophecy, to another various kinds of tongues, "All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, "who apportions" to each one individually as He wills"
You believe women get the same gifts, but your are wrong. Paul later told us women were not to lead, God told us men is the head of the women. He leads.
---Mark_V. on 11/13/13


Before KINGS, there were "judges" in Israel. Deborah, also someone's wife was chosen by GOD to be a judge over Israel. And then, when going to war against Sisera, the victory was given to a WOMAN. OUCH! Scripture calls this awesome woman BLESSED above all women....

So ladies, don't forget, God equipped gifts to ALL, both men and women, using Ephesians 4's list as most important to least important.

In The NT church, we are all kings and priests.

The individual priesthood of the believer means I personally can go boldly to the throne of grace, and I don't need a man or priest, or bishop or pastor to do that for me, or a high priest to intercede for me as was in OT Israel.
---kathr4453 on 11/13/13


(1) To use a woman as a disciple, the Lord would have needed to consult her husband first.(2) Some highly intellectual people would have accused Him of being an home splitter.(3) Who would supply the emotional need of the woman-disciple when it arises? (4) The Lord had done the best thing by not choosing a woman as a disciple that follow Him everywhere or are sent anywhere at anytime.(5) the women disciples also served in other capacities most suited to their peculiar nature & need. Women can be equated with men only in the spirit but not in the physical.
---Adetunji on 11/13/13


If you read about the temporary sanctuary that was built in the desert during the Israelites journey to Canaan, you will find that God specifically picked Men only from the Levis to perform duties in the Sanctuary. No women and so there should not be any women pastors or bishops today if we are CHrists followers. None in the Courtyard, Holy and most Holy place. That should be a lesson to all.
---janz on 11/12/13


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I just looked too at all scripture written in the first century ad, and counted how many times "JEW" was written in scripture, and can see nowhere those verses using JEW is directed solely to the tribe of Judah.

If that were so, we have a serious problem.

So, it's not even a TODAY generation word, but one used through out the whole NT in referring to two distinct groups of people. Jews and Gentiles.

No Gentile, OT or NEW was an Apostle.

We know Jesus ..."King of the JEWS", was not saying King of the tribe of Judah only.

All legitimate Kings came from the tribe of Judas, but were King over ALL Israel, or ALL Jews.
---kathr4453 on 11/12/13


Well interestingly enough micha, when one refers to one being a Jew today, no one asks of they are of the tribe of Judah! during the Holocaust millions of JEWS were murdered from ALL the tribes.


The 12 tribes are the 12 sons of JACOB... and no son was named EBER.


And Paul, stating he was a JEW was from the tribe of Benjamin.
---kathr4453 on 11/12/13


All 12 tribes were not Jews (of Judah). They were Israelites (of Israel). They were also all Hebrew (of Eber).
---micha9344 on 11/12/13


Well, let's clarify here, All 12 tribes and 12 Apostles were JEWS, of which chaps Markv's behind like you won't believe.

But when it comes to "dsciples" we see in Acts that the disciples were then called CHRISTIANS.

Now, in the NT Church all those baptized into Christ who are NEW CREATURES are CHRISTIANS and members of HIS BODY where men and woman are all GIFTED in some Spiritual GIFT for the ministry of the Gospel, and helping one another to grow up into the Fullness of Christ.

Now if MarkV can find any scripture where women were NOT given spiritual GIFTS FOR the Ministry, or are not considered CHRISTIANS, please prove that through scripture.
---kathr4453 on 11/12/13


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Kathr, MarkV, said to you, "A women's function uniquely in God's order is submitting to men's authority." Mark_V. on 11/12/13

The Bible teaches women should submit to God's authority.

This must be the way MarkV abuses his spouce and browbeats her into submission.

Many cultist, like Mark, teach the woman is to do what ever the "man" says even if it is evil.

Those that don't summit are accused and cursed by people like him. We sure see that here. So he must reject your truth also because you are a woman.

No wonder his son left home a non-believer if this is all God has done with him.
Yea, sure blame God.

If God could force him to be saved why can't He force him to be righteous?
---Elder on 11/12/13


Kathr, you say,
"Consequently, anyone who claims today that women should not participate fully in the ministry of the church because Jesus' apostles were male simply does not understand the scriptural dynamic of the change that occurred from old covenant to new and instead tries to force on the church"
No, its because of women like you. They are gossipers always questioning the word of God, causing chaos in the Church. If all churches were pastored by you, there would be no Truth left.
The Word of God has not changed. A women's function uniquely in God's order is submitting to men's authority. Paul affirms the pattern by the Godhead, the divine design of male and female and the order of creation.
---Mark_V. on 11/12/13


Consequently, anyone who claims today that women should not participate fully in the ministry of the church because Jesus' apostles were male simply does not understand the scriptural dynamic of the change that occurred from old covenant to new and instead tries to force on the church, Christ's new community, the standards of ancient Judaism. The argument that women should be barred from some church ministries because Christ's apostles were all men represents a regression to preresurrection conditions. Consistent adherence to this rule would require that not only women be excluded from ministry but also Gentiles, since Jesus and his apostles were Jews. Church leadership and ministry should then be only assumed by Jewish men.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/13


Jesus did say if you do his fathers will you will be his disciple. That word has not passed away either. Jesus said heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away. The only criteria for becoming a disciple is doing Gods will. So I would say to be a disciple you need to know Gods' will and just do it.
---Bryan on 10/30/13


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Jed thank you for your input, however, man of God you were called to be a witness not a biologist.

While the world is defending men being feminine and women being masculine, I will stand by the word of god all is Vanity according to Ecclesiastes !

I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ, I will declare it in all the earth... There is no need for sarcasm there is a clear distinction, according to Gods word although the world does not recognise it.

I AM, Christ, Man and his wife...

All Glory to the King of Kings I don't see the Queen of Queens up there although some might.
---Carla on 10/30/13


The disciples were male because they were given XY chromosomes at birth. If they had been given XX chromosomes they would have been female.
---Jed on 10/29/13


High five Trav, When some of these people wake up to what is written there will be a lot of apologising, since to be divided from the truth and speak two different gospels means either all speak untruth or one group is correct and the others will be arguing a side of eternity that was make for satan and his hosts.

Like the bible say's there will only be those that agree according to his truth . The rest will be wailing and gnashing their teeth!

Better learn to agree down here than depart with ignorance, read your bibles again, this time with the Holy Spirit as your guide not societies myths, feminism and foolishness.

Women were never meant to be above the man, there's a place, by his side,she helps!
---Carla on 10/29/13


Maybe it is because Christ is the head of the church and the man is the head of the woman.

1Cor14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak, but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Cor14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

I know you sisters do not like to hear this. Don't argue with me. All scripture is inspired by God.
---trey on 10/28/13


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Well, that's a good question. Maybe because He knew they would all be tortured.
---catherine on 10/23/13


There are many apostles and many disciples. Ephesians 4:10-12 To become an apostle one must first be a disciple.

As for men being disciples/apostles men are to rule over women, ever since the beginning, but equal in the inheritance of God to Abraham.
---Steveng on 10/14/13


The 12 apostles correspond to the 12 patriarchs.

Now, why were the patriarchs male?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/14/13


By the way, the birth control thing was a bit of sarcasm (not anoited though).
---KarenD on 7/14/13


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wivv, many women were in the ministry but they were not in authority over a man. that system is suppose to be for now too. God didn't put anything in His Word that would not fit todays society. women have ruined the bible structure in the work place, family and pastors. frankly I like it when my stance is the way it should be. there will be women who will reply with a negative answer but that don't bother me either.
---shira4368 on 7/13/13


The culture of that day only allowed men to have places of authority - and no one that was a part of this ministry of Christ would have respected what He or His disciples said if they had a woman as part of the group. Plus, since His ministry required a lot of travel, it would not have been disrespectful to have a woman disciple who traveled with them.
---wivv on 7/13/13


Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin.
"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

"Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection."
"That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place."
---Nana on 7/13/13


One other reason could be that spiritual leadership is the role bf the man.
Many women also of thier free will also physically followed Jesus, yet only men are chosen in this type of leadership roles
---francis on 7/12/13


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"Was there a special reason why all 12 disciples were male?"
"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach, 1Ti 3:2
"Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well." 1Ti 3:12
Although it is not written, 'I would think' the same would apply, if married, to disciples called to be apostles. My point? Husbands represent men.
Also, during that time only males, according to Paul, were allowed to speak in the churches.1Cr 14:34,35>1Ti 2:11>1Ti 2:12
---josef on 7/12/13


Mat 10:1 And when he had called unto [him] his twelve disciples, he gave them power [against] unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
Luke 6:13 And when it was day, he called [unto him] his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles,
Matt 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them,
The question is refering to the twelve in particular and not whether they were called apostles, disciples, or both.
The serpent went to the woman first, but God went to the man first. It was man who was given the responsibility and also given woman to help with that authority. There has been no change.
---micha9344 on 7/12/13


Matthew 10:1 "And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease."

Of course that there were more.
---Nana on 7/12/13


I can't believe all you Bible scholars missed this. There were 12 APOSTLES - not 12 DISCIPLES! There were thousands of disciples (students) of Christ - including women.

Note that all the male apostles abandoned Jesus in His hour of need, and one even betrayed Him. But Mary was content to wash His feet with her tears, while being ridiculed by them. She was a TRUE DISCIPLE!



---jerry6593 on 7/12/13


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KarenD on 7/11/13: I know they were not all single - we only know Paul was, because he comments about it somewhere (I don't remember where).

I just meant that it would have been possible that the disciples could have been 'mixed' if Jesus had decided to
---Peter9556 on 7/11/13


Peter9556...Not all disciples were single or remained so.
---KarenD on 7/11/13


Was there a special reason why all 12 disciples were male? If Jesus decided, there must be, but can we guess why.
---James on 7/8/13
Two reasons
1: Many of them were disciples of John the baptist, they were part of the " prepare the way" thingy
2: Some were family, since Rome was in power, you never go against the family capish?
---francis on 7/10/13


KarenD: Paul points out that he as a disciple remained unmarried, logically to be more efficient as a traveler/preacher/disciple.

A woman disciple could do the same if child bearing was such a problem
---Peter9556 on 7/10/13


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A simple reason would be that there was no birth control around back then.---KarenD on 7/10/13

No, there were birth control before Jesus' birth.
Not like our pill, but in other ingredients made from plants.

Birth control and abortion as been around for centuries.
We just made a little bit safer today.
Yet, it is a type 4 (highest) causing cancer pill still today.

Men will never realizes that trying to kill or control birth will only lead to death of 2 people not just one.
Plus, sterilization of women.

You are correct about women lib has ruined this world.
Or better yet, men being weepy has ruined this world.
Adam started it first.
---Nikki on 7/10/13


A simple reason would be that there was no birth control around back then. Married women would have been taking care of their family and having children. Men are supposed to be the heads of the wife and home. Women's Lib has ruined this world.
---KarenD on 7/10/13


There is no quessing on why Jesus chose 12 man. He chose them. That should be good enough for us. If He had chosen 10 man and 2 woman, we should not guess why two woman, for it should have been good enough since it was Jesus who did the chosing. Why Jesus chose Paul, why most of the worst people were chosen through History is another, why chose Adam as our representative, why not someone who would be obedient? We can question everyone chosen also, they are all sinners.
---Mark_V. on 7/10/13


GOD has order. -trav

indeed.

i can understand why women don't want to follow men today, and i can understand why men have given up.

did you notice how messed up things are as more women take leadership positions and men keep withdrawing?

(Wo)Man's order cannot stand.
---aka on 7/10/13

Oh Man... have I ever noticed...no pun intended. Men as examples like our paters are fading away.
While a man is incomplete without woman....and the magic expands with the union. The magic goes south rapidly when the order is reversed. As one would expect.
You say it better with fewer words, Aka.
I don't understand why men have given up though. It is past time to Cowboy Up!
Maybe it was the Marlboro's?
---Trav on 7/10/13


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James, I was told the reason is because mankind failed due to Adam.
Adam was placed in charged, and allowed Eve to be deceived.

(Ever notice how God ONLY calls Adam after they ate the fruit?)

Jesus is the 2nd Adam to undo Adam's sin.
Jesus starts a new Priesthood as He is the High Priest.
So, the disciples were all men.
---Nikki on 7/10/13


if you back up on this blog, you will say I did answer him right. he said women were lesser in the bible and all I said was that isn't true. again, women in the bible were esteemed highly. I also agree women are trying to take over leading roles where God intended for the man to lead. and yes, we have a rooked up society but I am from the old school and I believe God. I believe in the family structure and you will not get that when two males or females "marry". what a dingbat society we live in.
---shira4368 on 7/10/13


GOD has order. -trav

indeed.

i can understand why women don't want to follow men today, and i can understand why men have given up.

did you notice how messed up things are as more women take leadership positions and men keep withdrawing?

(Wo)Man's order cannot stand.
---aka on 7/10/13


Elder, you're absolutely right. I was kidding.
---Love.wins on 7/9/13


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Shira4368: 'women were not looked lesser than a man in the bible'

That can be discussed afterwards... but you are answering something that
jasherbam never said.
---Peter9556 on 7/9/13


jasherbam, women were not looked lesser than a man in the bible. men are head of their household and women have another role in God's structure. women played a big role in the bible. look them up and read. the family is structured in 3's just like God. there are many 3's in the bible.
---shira4368 on 7/9/13


Was there a special reason why all 12 disciples were male?
If Jesus decided.....
---James on 7/8/13

GOD has order. As we'd expect a GOD to have. Men should retain/honor the order. Women should honor the order. Men should love their wives.

Man was first. Man is the head. A natural order...and as it should be.

These 12 chosen are representative of the chosen house of Israel's family. These twelve will be inside the twelve gates judging the twelve lines of Israel.
Mat_19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
---Trav on 7/9/13


"Probably because, as the apostle Paul wrote, women are saved through childbearing.." Love.wins
You gotta be kidding....!!
What happens to those women who can't bear children?
---Elder on 7/9/13


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Because women were looked down upon in those days and not many men would have listened to a woman disciple/prophet.
---Jasheradan on 7/9/13


Yes, they were all male, and Mary Magdalene was a woman, and Jesus appeared to her first, even though two disciples had already been to the tomb > after they left, Jesus appeared to her.

I think she understood Jesus, could relate closely with Him because of how she understood Him. So, He appeared first to someone who was humble and close to Him . . . meanwhile the disciples were ready not to believe her report, and Jesus rebuked them for their unbelief.

So, may be He used ones who needed all that attention so they could get a clue about having faith.
---willie_c: on 7/8/13


Probably because, as the apostle Paul wrote, women are saved through childbearing..
---Love.wins on 7/8/13




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