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Anointing Of Sarcasm

I heard today a Word of faith teacher saying that the anointing of sarcasm was telling him, that God was not in control of everything. What are your thoughts on this subject and please give Scripture.

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Warwick, you want (2 Peter 3:9) to mean all individuals. Not possible. How could God be waiting for those dead already or all who are reserve for fire at judgment day, the ungodly in (v. 3:7). "All" does mean all, all of the elect.
None will perish, "all" God has chosen, He will call and they will repent. They make up the "all" of the redeemed.
You say:
"Romans 1:28 does not say God gave them a debased mind, but gave them over to what they were already doing. All have a chance, few listen." Here it is:
"God gave them over too a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting" They are those the wrath of God was talking about?
---Mark_V. on 11/7/13


Mark, where have you answered the question?

Your bias tells you "all" does not mean all in 2 Peter 3:9, but only part of all. The underlying Greek means "all things, as constituting a whole." Not a part of "all." This word appears twice in Colossians 1:16 "For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities all things were created through him and for him." As I have asked, and asked, did Jesus create all things or just some of that which was created?

Romans 1:28 does not say God gave them a debased mind, but gave them over to what they were already doing. All have a chance, few listen.
---Warwick on 11/6/13


Markv, your 1,2,3,4, are only opinions of what Your THEORY believes.

Because of your preconditioned brainwashing, of coarse you would think that. But that does not make it fact.

Even Mormons can make that same statement. Any cult can.
---kathr4453 on 11/6/13


Trav, up to your usual cyberstalking! Have you nothing better to do?
Stun me and actually answer the question as asked.
---Warwick on 11/5/13

Wow. Ha. On an open blogsite. Lol.
Seems certain scripture "stuns" you and makes furious as evident.
These scriptures answers your silly question. Opinions are.....just opinions.
Your question is a pulpit ploy. Scripture answers such foolishness much better.
Posting what you refuse to discuss lets a sheep graze on the facts there is more scripture than most self elect preachers cover.

Rev_4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
---Trav on 11/6/13


Warwick, I answered the passage in (2 Peter 3:9) about four times. Yes, all means "all." It has not change at all. But "all who," is the Question. In that passage all means "all those chosen before the foundation of the world to complete the redeemed" It does not mean all, in every single individual. Why? For many reasons.
1. Because many have died in their sins already. All cannot be them.
2. it cannot be those God gave a debased mind to do those things which are not fitting in (Rom. 1:28)
3. It cannot mean all humans since "the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men" in (2 Peter 3:7).
---Mark_V. on 11/6/13




Trav, up to your usual cyberstalking! Have you nothing better to do?

BTW the question you missanswered was "I ask again is Jesus Creator of all things, or just some? Stun me and actually answer the question as asked. Have you ever done that? It may be a pleasant experience for you.
---Warwick on 11/5/13


Mark_V.: "[Steveng] What you've [Steveng] done is removed God from the Throne."

You're confused again, Mark V. I never said that I removed God from his Throne.

I said God has ultimate power, but gave the power of this world to Satan. Satan has influence in all things in the world.

2 Corinthians 4:4
John 12:31
1 John 5:19
2 Timothy 2:26
John 14:30
John 16:11

And don't forget what Satan said to Jesus. Matthew 4:1-10


1st Peter 5:8

For the past couple of months I have been giving bible verses because you don't believe my paraphrasing. Now I give you verses, yet you still don't believe.
---Steveng on 11/5/13


I ask again is Jesus Creator of all things, or just some?
---Warwick on 11/5/13

As a Creator...he can do what he likes with who he likes.

1Ch_17:21 And what one nation in the earth is like thy people Israel, whom God went to redeem to be his own people, to make thee a name of greatness and terribleness, by driving out nations from before thy people, whom thou hast redeemed out of Egypt?
Isa_40:15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
---Trav on 11/5/13


Mark, in 2 Peter 3:9 we see that God does not wish that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. Note that "all" comes from the Greek meaning all, everyone "all things, as constituting a whole." This is the same Greek word used in Colossians 1:16 where Jesus is Creator of "all things."

I ask again is Jesus Creator of all things, or just some?
---Warwick on 11/5/13


Strongaxe, I do not apologize for answering someone who put Satan above God. Even if he was present before me, and said the same things about Satan, I would tell him the same words. Not because he is stupid, or doesn't know Scripture but because he does know the Bible. He should know better then to crown Satan as Lord of this world. He disregards God altogether. What son of God would do that?
God says,
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth: And none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35). Steven is a child of God.
Only the wicked do as naturally hate the Divine perfections of God. They seek to banish such a God from their thoughts. No child of God should do that.
---Mark_V. on 11/5/13




Steven, I told you I loved you. I have not stopped loving you. Even if we are called by God to love each other. When I begin answering you it was because you condemned the denominations, and said Satan created them. I told you were wrong. Now you say that Satan is in control of all things on the earth. What you've done is removed God from the Throne. RCC did that all through history, they removed Christ as the head of the Church. Now you are doing the same thing with God. Removing Him as Ruler of all things. Which in fact means Satan is Ruler. If in fact Satan is ruling all things on earth, then God is going around changing His plan to fit what Satan is doing. What child of God would do that? I know of none. That does not mean I don't love you.
---Mark_V. on 11/5/13


"God rules no one." Mark just defined biblical free will. God gives all a chance to be born again but.... When one is born of the Spirit, then you answer to God. We are His children and he will rule what we do or we are chastised. Some die.
---shira4368 on 11/5/13


Mark_V.: "Steven, then you should bow down to him, and go ahead, because you have put him on the Throne of God"...

Tell me, Mark V, when I have ever said that I put Satan on the Throne of God? Again, like Satan himself, you have twisted my post, and many other's, and completely taken it out of context.

Why is there such hate in your heart? You have become more angry over the past couple of years. Why?

Mark_V.: "since God rules no one."

Yes, God rules ultimately, but he has allowed Satan to rule over the earth especially these past few decades. God will intervene again when the time is right in his eyes.
---Steveng on 11/4/13


Mark_V.:

You said: Strongaxe, we should never have to apologize for the Truth. We should never be ashamed to speak for the Gospel.

It's possible to be articulate and persuasive without being condescending and accusatory. Unfortunately, many people (on these blogs and elsewhere) have the attitude of "I'm right, so I can talk down to anyone else I please". Of course, such an attitude will not win anyone friends, or persuade anyone of truth.

Note that the Jesus only screamed at Pharisees (and Peter once) - never people seeking the truth.
---StrongAxe on 11/3/13


Steven, then you should bow down to him, and go ahead, because you have put him on the Throne of God since God rules no one. You raised him up all by yourself. He didn't even have to convince you, or tempt you.
Now, do you even see, or understand, how people do his desires and he doesn't have to do a thing to them. All by themselves they raise him up as their god. A lesson to be learned Steven.
---Mark_V. on 11/3/13


Mark, that salvation is all God's work does not mean we cannot repent and ask for forgiveness (which is not a work) and receive God's gift of salvation. Jesus died that all may be saved, and I am sure He did so knowing 'stiff-necked' people would never kneel before Him. But "The Lord is not slow to fulfil his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance 2 Peter 3:9. Note that "all" comes from the Greek meaning all, everyone "all things, as constituting a whole." This is the same Greek word used in Colossians 1:16 where Jesus is Creator of "all things."

Is He Creator of all things?
---Warwick on 11/3/13


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Satan is still god of this world.

The christians had sown the word in their hearts, but Satan came immediately and took away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Yes, God could have complete control, but does not - yet. Satan is still wreaking havoc throughout the world. God is allowing Satan to have complete control of world events and of people. Why do you suppose the prophesies are now being fulfilled? Even to the point at the time of Noah? What is happening today is a million times worse than what Satan did to Job.

2 Thessalonians 2:9
John 13:27
1 Corinthians 7:5
2 Corinthians 2:11
2 Corinthians 11:14
1 Timothy 5:15
Revelation 12:9

Romans 16:20
---Steveng on 11/3/13


Strongaxe, we should never have to apologize for the Truth. We should never be ashamed to speak for the Gospel. What is very troubling is the fact not many even know God. They have never made a commitment to know the God of the Bible. They are very happy campers now, and they feel they don't need to know the God of the Bible. So they talk without knowing. Make what I call stupid comments that speak against God. I don't know why they even call Him God, because in their minds Satan and man are ruling the affairs of the world, God is not even present at all. Supposedly Christians who should be trusting in God don't even trust Him at all. Their faith is somewhere else. I don't apologize for the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 11/3/13


christan:

You said:

Shira4368,

I'm going to be condescending to you and make no apologies


Thus, by the Golden Rule (i.e. do unto others as you would have them do unto you), you must be perfectly happy if others are condescending to you.

Personally, I don't like it if people are condescending to me, so I try to avoid being condescending to others.
---StrongAxe on 11/2/13


Mark V Thank you very much.

I've had a traumatic week in some respects so a little positive feedback is extremely welcome. Bless you.
---Rita_H on 11/2/13


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Galatians 3:14 - That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith,
3:15 - Brethren, I speak after the manner of men, though it be but a man's covenant, yet if be confirmed. no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
3:16 - Now to Abraham and his seed were the promise made, he saith not, And to the seeds, as of many, but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ,

---RICHARDC on 11/2/13


Genesis 12:1-3

12 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great, and thou shalt be a blessing:

3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.


So God fulfilled his promise to Abraham, and in Rebecca womb were TWO NATIONS. Out of those two, Jacob remained ISRAEL became THAT NATION that was promised to ABRAHAM.
---kathr4553 on 11/2/13


Sis. Rita, you gave a great answer to others. I loved it, peace be with you always
---Mark_V. on 11/2/13


The 'word of faith' teacher who said this should cut up his clerical collar and step down from the pulpit.

God IS in control of everything. Satan might wish us to think otherwise but that is what the enemies of God wish us to believe - they want us to lose faith, to believe a lie and to be confused.

"Word of Faith" is sarcasm in itself because people in those churches have more faith in the man in pulpit than they have in God and will live to regret doing so. They are not saved people but are lead to believe that they are.
---Rita_H on 10/31/13


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For the elect, falling from the grace of God is an impossibility. One cannot be elected by God and in time loose their salvation, period. Election only happens because of God`s love, nothing that the sinner has done that God should save him, as freewillers propagate in their teachings.

"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:37,38

To begin with, Esau was hated by God and was never in the covenant of grace. Goes to show how much one understands the doctrine of the grace of God.
---christan on 10/31/13


Then Christan, I would suggest you listen up here. You just may end up like Esau in the end and FAIL of the Grace of God. Whether you like these verses or not, it is said to CHRISTIANS as a warning.

Hebrews 12:15-17

15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled,

16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
---kathr4453 on 10/31/13


Shira4368, do you see anywhere in my replies that I blamed God? I subscribe 100% to:

"Therefore hath He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?"
Romans 9:18,21

I love it! This goes to show I worship the same God to that of Paul. A perfect definition of God's sovereignty. "He does as He pleases."
---christan on 10/31/13


Christian, God can harden anyone's heart. most of the time, men harden their own hearts. don't blame God for what man does. you really place God in a small box and you are offended that Christ died for every single person. instead of trying to disciple me, look at the cross. it is because of the cross you believe. don't try to tell me you have always been saved. evidently you still don't know the work of the cross.
---shira4368 on 10/30/13


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Brother MarkV, you're now officially speaking to someone who not only is deluded with the freewill, animals too, according to them has freewill. Wow! And they claim to know God.

"Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass, I have purposed it, I will also do it." Isaiah 46:11

"Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father." Matthew 10:29

At least the sparrows don't sin against God by saying they have a freewill. Think how great that sin is when a man say so after what's declared in Isaiah 46:11.
---christan on 10/30/13


Christian, I have never ask your forgiveness. as a believer I will stand on the Word of God.
---shira4368 on 10/30/13


our will's always have a reason to decide, it is never free without reason or motive.

---Mark_V. on 10/30/13


so you do believe in free will.
REASON: WE ARE SINNERS. WE KNOW WE ARE SINNERS BECAUSE THE LAW THAT WAS OUR SCHOOLMASTER SAID WE ARE!

No one would have a clue what sin was before the Law. That is why from Adam to Moses SIN was not imputed, however DEATH WAS. All we have to do is look around and see death everywhere.

MOTIVE: CHOOSE LIFE and LIVE

Jesus didn't ask us to choose sinless perfection, He said CHOOSE LIFE!

God gave me a choice. Call it what you may. YOU can choose life or death.

THE END!
---kathr4453 on 10/30/13


Kathr, you also said,
"You are saying "to believe" or "not believe" something is decided for you." It is decided for you when it pertains to faith in Christ. Anything without Christ, you can choose on your own. We're told,
"There is none who understand, There is none who seeks after God" that's why God has to decide for you. The lost are spiritually dead to the things of God. Sin has separated them. Then say,
"Good grief christen, even animals have free will to pee on the floor or bark to go outside." there will's are not free either, they pee because they have a cause to pee, our will's always have a reason to decide, it is never free without reason or motive.
---Mark_V. on 10/30/13


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Pharoah hardened his own heart, just as those before the flood seared their own conscience. God it says LET THEM GO, resulting from a continual disobedience on their part.

If they were already LET GO, God would not have LET THEM GO their own way.

Shira is correct again.
---kathr4453 on 10/30/13


Shira4368, you wrote on 10/27/13 - "maybe God did place pharaoh where he was but if you check it, pharaoh hardened his hear toward God, he did this several times but in the end, God hardened pharaoh's heart."

Hence I replied with Exodus 4:21, that the hardening is the work of God, causing Pharaoh to be in unbelief which acted out in disobedience by rejecting Moses demand to let God's people go.

Many hate this doctrine, but God said what He said, that He's the one who hardens the heart of man, period. Not the other way round as you so believe.

"Therefore hath He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardeneth." Romans 9:18
---christan on 10/30/13


Christian, you are condescending to everyone who shows you the error you preach. many have shown you scripture showing you are wrong and you still don't believe.
---shira4368 on 10/30/13


Shira4368,

I'm going to be condescending to you and make no apologies. You said, "please read exodus 8:15. exodus 9:7. finally exodus 10:20, God hardened pharaoh's heart"

Didn't you read my previous post? All these verses are way after Exodus 4:21, which was the starting point of God's prophesy with Him telling Moses that He was going to harden Pharaoh's heart. Don't you follow Scriptures in context and sequence?

You write what you have no idea about the doctrine of hardening by God and ironically, you show verses to support my believe that the hardening starts from God, which is what this discussion was all about in which you disagreed.
---christan on 10/29/13


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Christian, please read exodus 8:15. exodus 9:7. finally exodus 10:20, God hardened pharaoh's heart
---shira4368 on 10/29/13


Shira4368, I showed you Exodus 4:21 where God declared to us that He was the "agent" to the "hardening" of Pharaoh's heart.

Now, all you have to do is reply to my challenge that prior to Exodus 4:21, there's a verse somewhere out there in the Bible that says Pharaoh hardened his own heart to begin with and I'll submit to your doctrine. But please, don't show me any verses after Exodus 4:21 and that's because we are already told by God that it was He who "hardened" Pharaoh's heart and Pharaoh was merely acting out God's "hardening" in his unbelief and disobedience.

This doctrine isn't about election, so let's stay pertinent to the doctrine of God's hardening, ok?
---christan on 10/29/13


Kathr, you say,
"Christan, you guys go on and on about free will, as if "free will" is what saves, accusing us of saving ourselves by free will."
That is what you and others are saying. That out of the goodness of your heart, because of your own free will, without faith, you surrendered to God, and He made you born again. But the Bible tells us that,
"For we are saved by grace through faith" (Eph. 2:2-4,89). And hear this,
"Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of Grace. And if by Grace, then it is no longer of works, Otherwise Grace is no longer Grace." (Rom. 11:5,6).
Your own free will eliminates Grace.
---Mark_V. on 10/29/13


Christian, really???? I read the whole bible in context. maybe you should do the same. of course you are not all over the place you are hung up on you being the "elect" why don't you try to rightly divide.
---shira4368 on 10/28/13


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Christan, you guys go on and on about free will, as if "free will" is what saves, accusing us of saving ourselves by free will.

We are saved by Jesus risen life. It has nothing to do with free will or no free will, it has to do with faith.

You are saying "to believe" or "not believe" something is decided for you. Good grief christen, even animals have free will to pee on the floor or bark to go outside. Please Give God more credit in His creation of MAN.

You are accusing God of being so threatened by man, that in fear of man, he had to make robots. That's something man can create and program to do exactly as programmed. BIG DEAL. Why do you bring God down to man's level?
---kathr4453 on 10/28/13


shira4368, obviously you don't read the Scriptures in sequence as it is supposed to. You're all over the place looking for verses to justify your freewill.

Exodus 4:21 - "And the Lord said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go."

Please find us a verse prior to this account that it was Pharaoh who hardened his own heart. If Pharaoh could have hardened his own heart, what glory is there for God to hardened a heart that's already hardened? Exodus 4:21 was the first account of God declaring He will harden Pharaoh's heart, not the other way round.
---christan on 10/28/13


Strongaxe, the same case is found in Joseph's story. His brother were jealous of him. Out of their own evil reasons they sold him. They lied to their father later. As times past, Joseph became a great man for Pharaoh. When Joseph met his brothers he told them not to be grieved or angry with themselves for selling him for God sent him before them to preserve life. Joseph told them,
"So now it was not you who sent me here, but God, and He has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house, and a ruler throughout all the land of Egypt" (Gen. 45:8).
Because of Joseph's position now he was able to save many lives. God used the evil in his brothers to preserve the lives of so many during the famine.
---Mark_V. on 10/28/13


Hebrews 3:15 "While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation."
God is not hardening there.


Mark 7:14 "Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand"
Acts 28:24 "And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not."
Acts 28:27 "For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed, lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them."

'They' is not God. God is one.
---Nana on 10/28/13


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markv, maybe God did place pharaoh where he was but if you check it, pharaoh hardened his hear toward God, he did this several times but in the end, God hardened pharaoh's heart. I pray God will never harden my heart. that will be a sad day
---shira4368 on 10/27/13


Strongaxe, you are right. No matter what answer we give from Scripture someone will not like it.
If you read the story of Pharaoh we see God working in his life from the time he was born. God made sure nothing happen to him. Even let him live a life torturing slaves. Yet God raised him up to Pharaoh, For one reason,
"For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth" In reality Pharaoh was there to serve God.
---Mark_V. on 10/27/13


"I don't think God knew one of His angels was a devil" shira4368

It's like saying God forgot who He created and what He created them for. Maybe you should engrave this into your heart, "All things were made by Him, and without Him was not any thing made that was made." John 1:3

"By the Word of the Lord were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth." Psalm 33:6, "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him." Colossians 1:16
---christan on 10/26/13


well, I don't think God knew one of His angels was a devil because God said He repented that He ever made man. Genesis 6:6...exodus 32:14...1 Samuel 15:35...amos 7:3
---shira4368 on 10/26/13


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Mark_V.:

You said: Stronaxe, why don't you believe that God permitted evil to enter the world? If He did not will it to enter, it would never have entered

I didn't say whether I believe it or not. All I said was that anyone who believes that God is entirely in control MUST ALSO believe that the evil in the world is here because God WANTS it to be here, as it's part of his will.

If one says "God is not in control", a bunch of people will scream bloody murder. If one says "God is the author of evil", a different, but equally large number of people will scream bloody murder. No matter which point of view one holds, some people will be greatly offended.
---StrongAxe on 10/26/13


Stronaxe, why don't you believe that God permitted evil to enter the world? If He did not will it to enter, it would never have entered. He is God, He could have willed it to enter later on in history if He wanted. It does not mean He loves evil. Evil was in the plan of God. All He had to do was give man an inch and he would take a mile. Why do you think the tree of knowledge of good and evil was there in the first place? For good looks? The worst evil done was the sacrifice of His Son. Yet even that was the will of God. He didn't make the evil man do what they did, all He did was permit them to do their sin. Jesus was foreknown as a sacrifice for sin before the foundation of the world. It was going to happen. God will it would happen.
---Mark_V. on 10/26/13


Mark_V.:

The answer is 1. God's will is done on earth as it is in heaven. Nothing happens without the will of God.

This means that you believe that every bad thing on earth - war, plague, pestilence, disease, every murder, rape, and other crime, and every blasphemy and idolatry and other sin - are all the will of God, right?

First, because His will is done on earth as it is in heaven.

Jesus didn't ask us to pray for God's will to be done in heaven, BECAUSE IT ALREADY IS. The reason he asked us to pray for his will on earth, and for daily bread, and for deliverance from evil - is because these things are NOT already done yet.

God doesn't want evil - he's just taking his time to deal with it.
---StrongAxe on 10/26/13


I'll get back with you on Scripture, but, I am going to go ahead and give you something. This teacher is a false teacher. How's that!
---catherine on 10/23/13


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Strongaxe, you now asked,
"Mark_V.: One of two things can be true:
1) God's will is done on earth
2) God's will is not done on earth."

The answer is 1. God's will is done on earth as it is in heaven. Nothing happens without the will of God.
Then asked,
"If the first is true, why would Jesus tell us to pray daily, "thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"?" First, because His will is done on earth as it is in heaven. He ask us to pray, because we now have communion with Him as believers. Only believers have the communion with God. Second, we pray, because we are commanded to pray.
---Mark_V. on 10/22/13


Mark_V.:

One of two things can be true:
1) God's will is done on earth
2) God's will is not done on earth.

If the first is true, why would Jesus tell us to pray daily, "thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"? We are never told to pray for the sun to rise of for 2+2 to equal 4, or anything else that is already accomplished.

If the second is true, something is going on that is causing God's will to NOT be done. Either God is schizophrenic (i.e. he's is the one actively opposing his own will), or there are other things and/or beings (e.g. Satan) who are acting in opposition to God, and as a result, their will is being done and not God's.

So, which of the two above choices do you believe, and why?
---StrongAxe on 10/21/13


Bro. Strongaxe, I see you have doubts that God is in control of all things. I don't see why? Look at this passages and think about it. First look at this one,
" Who being in the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power.." (Heb. 1:3) The Universe and everything in it is constantly sustain by the Son's powerfully effective Word, see (Col. 1:17)) "And He is before all things and in Him all things consist" Now look at
"For in Him we live and move and have our being" (Acts 17:28).
We cannot even breath without Him. This are just a few passages.
---Mark_V. on 10/20/13


Mark_V.:

If God WERE truly in control of everything, we would have no need to pray, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven", because his will would ALREADY be done on earth. Yet Jesus told us to pray for this. That's because God's will is not yet being done on earth. If it were, we could legitimately ask "why is there so much evil in the world? Does God want it? he must, if his will is currently being done".
---StrongAxe on 10/19/13


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Mark_V - Perhaps he should also preface a statement by saying that he uses the anointing of mockery too.
---jan4378 on 8/15/13


Jan, if I read you answer correctly, it was the opposite, the word of faith teacher was acually making fun at those who would suggest that God is in control of everything. He spoke like many of those here who believe God is not in control of everything. He was been sarcastic and mentioned he had the anointing of sarcasm. NO such anointing comes from God.
---Mark_V. on 7/27/13


It seems to me that the word of faith teacher believes that God is in control of everything, but he had a moment of sarcastic thinking that told him that God was not in control of everything.

The phrase "anointing of sarcasm" is merely his personal way of expressing the thought he had.

I would use the scripture from 2 Cor.10:4-5. The "anointing of sarcasm" was an unrighteous thought that seeks to exalt itself against the knowledge of God.

The faith teacher recognized it and properly submitted it to the obedience of Christ.

And decided to use the event in his sermon.
---jan4378 on 7/26/13


On 7/10/13 - Jesus was a drunkard and a gluton , The Pharisees and Lawyer were calling Christ a Winebibber ( Drunkard ) he wasn't, just was around them - Luke 7:34 - IN Old Testament Law if you had a Son that was a drunkard, you could have him put to Death , REFER - Deuteronomy 21:20 - They were trying to kill him,

God was not in control of everything ?

Matthew 10:29 - Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing ? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your father,
10:30 - But the very hairs of your head are number,
---RICHARDC on 7/16/13


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Thank you Mark. All praises due the Father. Amen to your post.
We are without doubt in complete agreement as concerning the Father's dominion and reign.
---Josef on 7/13/13


bro. Josef, that was a great answer you gave and very true. What he was doing was laughing or mocking the Sovereignty of God. He is doing exactly what God ordained he would do. Many here also say God is not in control.
They of course give people like Hitler, and rapes and other acts of evil man as their reason why God is not in control. As if the whole world really belongs to satan. Satan is the god of this lost world for all those lost right now belong to him, and they do not even know it. The fallen world does belong to him by permission of God. When God wants to save one of those, He saves them, because ultimately God is in Control of all things. For one day there will be no more satan and no more sin. For it is written.
---Mark_V. on 7/13/13


Mark "All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing, [Father] does according to His will in the army of heaven And among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand Or say to Him, "What have You done? Whatever the LORD pleases He does, In heaven and in earth, In the seas and in all deep places." Dan 4:35>Psa 135:6
If he was anointed for sarcasm, with that statement, he served his purpose.
---Josef on 7/12/13


Oh . . . very interesting . . . and you have time to listen to someone saying this? Well, we may do well to know what is going on. So, the person says his "God" is not in control of everything.

I understand that our Heavenly Father is in control of everything, including as our Potter (Romans 9:21), with more control of us, than a human potter has over clay!

But Paul speaks of "the god of this age", in 2 Corinthians 4:4. I understand Paul means Satan is "the god of this age". And Satan is the "god" who is not in control of everything.

So, who is this preacher's "God", then - - if his "God" is not in control of all?
---willie_c: on 7/11/13


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First of all, there's no such thing as an anointing of sarcasm spoken of in the Bible. I don't really listen to the bizarre antics of Word of faith teachers/preachers. If he really thinks he has such an anointing, he is very deceived.

The teacher you referenced may likely have been trying to say (as a tongue n cheek illustration that) there are people who are so self-righteous they delusionally think they have an anointing to be sarcastic about everything & everyone, including God. However, God clearly doesn't anoint people who have the audacity to mock Him. (Gal. 6:7)
---Leon on 7/10/13


scott, since gluttony and drunkenness are sins Jesus did none of those. Jesus was sinless. you are the one putting Jesus in a box to fit your "interpretation". mine came from bible. Jesus drew crowds and performed miracles and was a witness to lost. the bible says that if Jesus had written down everything there wouldn't be room to hold it.
---shira4368 on 7/10/13


//scott, how do you come to the decision Jesus was a drunkard and gluton//

For a religious leader to associate with sinners and tax collectors was totally outrageous. Jesus turned water into wine and gleaned fields on the Sabbath, everywhere he went he had a feast because a feast is where you discuss important topics. Matt 9:14. There is also the comparison where Jesus compares himself to John. Matthew 11 18-19. God never fits into our image of him. John did not eat or drink he is a demon, Jesus came eating and drinking and considered a glutton and drunkard.
---Scott1 on 7/10/13


You'll probably hear more and more this new catch phrase, first stated by Brian JohnsonM on twitter.

Like all goats who eat up everything, this pastor was playing off this NEW CATCHY PHRASE, trying to incorporate it into something he thought sounds cute.

The world feeds off the world....that's all it means Markv...
---kathr4453 on 7/10/13


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scott, how do you come to the decision Jesus was a drunkard and gluton? wow, you did not find that in the Word of God. Jesus Christ was sinless. when He died on the cross, he bore all our sin and His Father couldn't even look at His Son being crucified. so anyone that feels Jesus was a sinner is not one of His children.
---shira4368 on 7/10/13


i think the teacher is right. there is a tremendous amount of sarcasm used today in "christian" circles. just read through one blog on CNet.

however, this anointing is not of God.
---aka on 7/10/13


I heard today a Word of faith teacher saying that the anointing of sarcasm was telling him, that God was not in control of everything. What are your thoughts on this subject and please give Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 7/9/13
The man is 100% correct
as you should be able to tell, he was being SARCASTIC!!!!
---francis on 7/9/13


There's some pretty blatant sarcasm by an anointed prophet in 1 Kings 18.
---Love.wins on 7/9/13


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What on earth is anointing of sarcasm?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/13


I need to more detail to say. He was being sarcastic which is all about context. Jesus was very sarcastic. He told a rich man that he had to go through the eye of a needle to be saved. He also called the Pharisses sons of Satan. Jesus was considered a glutton and a drunkard
---Scott1 on 7/9/13


There are no scriptures that support this man's words. There is a scripture to explain his actions.

II Timothy 4:2-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears,
---KarenD on 7/9/13


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