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Some here have indicated that only members of their denomination will be saved. What do you think?

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Peter: CONTEXT!!! The context of Peter's sheet vision was his religious bigotry toward non-Jews and his command to go to visit Cornelius - a non-Jew. This is confirmed by the statement:

Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

It was unclean people - not unclean animals that Peter was directed to address. As you know, most visions are highly symbolic. This one was no exception.


---jerry6593 on 7/21/13


francis, anything without faith is sin. You do not eat certain foods, because you call them sin. They are sin to you, because you have no faith. Hear the word of the Lord if you can hear,

"Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts (that is you) is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith, for whatever is not from faith is sin" (Rom. 14:22,23).
---Mark_V. on 7/21/13


Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines.

If Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever, he will never EVER ask people to do something which he said was a sin

The easiest way to know if an action is sin or not is this:
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines.

If the action is not the same in OT and NT it is strange and diverse ( false)

God is our rock: solid! unchanging! the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning James 1:17

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
---francis on 7/20/13


---Peter9556 on 7/19/13
First: It was a vision, like the vision in Daniel of the 4 beast, they had a meaning separate from the literal beasts

Second: Peter never killed and ate anything from the great sheet, which meant that he did not take Matthew 15: and Mark 7: to means eat what we want

Third: Peter mentions this story three times, never did he say it meant to eat unclean meats, here are his THREE interpretations:

Acts 10:28 but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Acts 11:18 Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life

Acts 15:7 God put no difference between us and them

This is not about diet, but accepting Gentiles into the church uncircumcised
---francis on 7/19/13


A person who loves GOD with all their heart and neighbor as themselves will be accepted into heaven. No matter what little matters or even big matters they fail.---Samuelbb7 on 7/19/13

As long as they love God enough to repent with TRUE CONTRITION.
You can't love God with all your heart and still continue to live in sin.
You can ask for forgiveness, but your love grows as your sins decreases.

If I were married, and my husband claims he loves me with all his heart.
But I keep catching him with another woman every Saturday night, it will cause me to question his words.

Loving me will start with not sleeping with other women at the very least.
Then building our life together with mutual respect as the very most.
---Nikki on 7/19/13




Francis: 'The VISION represented all the other nations which the Jews called unclean'

It is possible, certainly, but do you think that God would tell Peter 'kill and eat' to talk about other nations?
---Peter9556 on 7/19/13


---Samuelbb7 on 7/19/13
Agreed, there is ignorance, and then there is presumption.
Then there is denial of the word of God, and deception.

When someone reads this in the word of God:
Leviticus 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud, he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat,

Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

and continues to eat swine, what do you call it: ignorance, presumption, unbelief, denial of the word of God, or deception,
---francis on 7/19/13


Francis there is a difference between being incorrect on something and walking in disobedience to what a person know is right.

A person who loves GOD with all their heart and neighbor as themselves will be accepted into heaven. No matter what little matters or even big matters they fail.

Matthew 25 will speak of those who cared for others and are accepted and those who were religious leaders and only cared for themselves who are rejected.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/19/13


I believe that when we meet God face to face we will ALL become aware of what we got wrong because no-one will be 100% correct.
---Rita_H on 7/19/13
Well according to God, if you donot get this one correct, youwillnot see Him face to face

Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD
---francis on 7/19/13


I believe that when we meet God face to face we will ALL become aware of what we got wrong because no-one will be 100% correct.

So many preach about the way to salvation and Christ is the ONLY way but there are many slight differences in the teachings of the denominations, mostly concerning forms of worship than actual beliefs. They cannot possibly all be right and I'm sure that not a single one of them will be in every little detail.
---Rita_H on 7/19/13




Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD

Please believe God when he says that those who call them self sanctified, and eat swine and the abominations will be burned in the lake of fire, and stop eating that stuff!

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar,
---francis on 7/18/13


---Peter9556 on 7/18/13
The VISION represented all the other nations which the Jews called unclean. the VISION ( not commandment) had nothing to do with diet

Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation, but God hath shewed me that I should not call ANY MAN common or unclean.

---Nikki on 7/18/13
Matthew 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for THEY WASH NOT THEIR HANDS WHEN THEY EAT BREAD

Matthew 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with UNWASHEN HANDS defileth not a man.


What I am asking is to find a list of animals which god has said could be eaten
---francis on 7/18/13


I challange EVERYONE to find what God has SANCTIFIED for food in ALL of scripture.
---francis on 7/18/13

The simplest answer to that is in Acts 10:12-15 'It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.
Surely not, Lord! Peter replied. I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.
The voice spoke to him a second time, Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.

This seems to imply that all foods are sanctified if God calls them sanctified (and thus annuls the Jewish laws)
---Peter9556 on 7/18/13


Eating anything unclean is, and always will be to God an abomination

I challenge EVERYONE to find what God has SANCTIFIED for food in ALL of scripture.---francis on 7/18/13

I don't think I understand your challenge? What are you calling sanctified?

As for your first statement, Jesus states anything that enters the heart and out into the latrine does not defile the person Mark 7:17-23
---Nikki on 7/18/13


---Elder on 7/18/13
Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar, as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Romans 3:5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

If this does not answer your question let me know and let me know why
---francis on 7/18/13


what is the greatest commandment of all?
---shira4368 on 7/18/13

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Matthew 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

shira4368 can you tell me why this is the first and great commandment? and what does it mean to love God with all your heart?

Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

shira4368 why isn't Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself the first and great commandment?

shira4368 what does it mean to love thy neighbour as thyself?
---francis on 7/18/13


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"In the books of John,( all Johns and all the bible OT and NT) what I find is that believers are encouraged to keep all the laws and commandmenst of God."
francis
I wanted you to tell us what the commandments are. You listed a few. What are you going to do with the rest of them? There are over 900 more.
In the NT Jesus said He was giving a new commandment. Do you follow it? Do you know what it is?
There is no way you can follow commandments if you don't know what they are. Your "law keeping" is no more than a work of Cain.
That is why we are Saved by Grace and not the law.
---Elder on 7/18/13


---shira4368 on 7/18/13
Matthew 22:37 Thou shalt love the Lord thy God
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain,
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Matthew 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Honour thy father and thy mother: giveth thee.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Thou shalt not covet
---francis on 7/18/13


francis, since you know all about the law but don't know anything else...let me ask. what is the greatest commandment of all?
---shira4368 on 7/18/13


I and the Seventh day Adventist church teach that GOD gave us laws of health. That breaking those laws is bad for your health. Now if you know they are wrong and are convicted it is sinful to eat unclean food then yes it is a sin for your.

But if you are not convicted that it is a sin then it is just unhealthy for you. The Bible in it's health rules says after you touch a dead body and I think a sick person too. You are supposed to bath and be sure to wash your hands. Not doing so will not make you lost. But as we know from History and doctors it can make you dead.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/18/13


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1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer

A: The phrase "word of God "refers to what we call the OT

B: Only certain animals are sanctified by the word of God for food

C: Jesus died for our sin, he did not die to change what he has called a sin. Eating anything ujnclean is, and always will be to God an abomination

What Paul is saying is that we can eat anything, at anythime which is sanctified by the word of God, and we should pray and give thanks for it

I challange EVERYONE to find what God has SANCTIFIED for food in ALL of scripture.
---francis on 7/18/13


I never figured out that my faith don't match francis.
---shira4368 on 7/18/13
It does not match the bible

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

---Elder on 7/17/13
In the books of John,( all Johns and all the bible OT and NT) what I find is that believers are encouraged to keep all the laws and commandmenst of God.

If you have found otherwise, please share it.
---francis on 7/18/13


markv, can't remember where its at in the n.t. but we can eat all food if we give thanks for it. we have no dietary laws in the new testament. francis, the n.t. is full of faith, prayer and love for the brethren. all the law is based on our love for Christ...bottom line.
---shira4368 on 7/18/13


francis, I am glad you know my heart. my bible says our hearts are desperately wicked, who can know it. all this time I thought I was living by faith. I never figured out that my faith don't match francis. surprise, surprise, surprise
---shira4368 on 7/18/13


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Titus 3:9,
But avoid foolish controversies, arguments about genealogies, quarrels, and fight about the Law. These things are useless and worthless.

God gave us the ability to appreciate time, and to make the most of it. All of you waste the gift He gives you. After the first and second admonition we are called to move on with our lives, and to serve God with our time. To go on endlessly insulting each other and having a spiritual slap fight to no end is to spit in God's face. This is not the Christian life we are called to live.
---A_servant on 7/18/13


---shira4368 on 7/18/13
Did you know that every single NT writer except for Jude, speaks about keeping the law / commandments of God?

the baptist churches have done a great injustice to it's members to have them believe that keeping the law of God is yoke

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Isaiah 58:13 call the sabbath a delight,


"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the Truth is not in us" (1 John 1:18).
---Mark_V. on 7/18/13
This applies in context to people like you, who do not keep the sabbath, and claim that they have not sinned.
---francis on 7/18/13


Elder, francis did answer what commandments when he said,
"true love is ALL, the whole law, including dietary law, that is how you know you love God and that is how you kow that you know God"
In other words, he is able to keep all the laws including dietary laws. He is claiming he can do what Jesus Christ did, keep the law perfect, and God tells us about people like him,
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the Truth is not in us" (1 John 1:18).
He is deceived, and there is no Truth in him.
---Mark_V. on 7/18/13


francis, all your post are about how YOU OBEY THE LAW. you are the one who works for salvation. I have never never said that...only you have. I was saved by grace thru faith. I still don't have to work to "stay" saved. I live by faith. God said "my yoke is easy and my burden light. evidently your yoke is very heavy if you live by the law. did you know you would have to carry the commandments in your pocket and before you do anything you would have to consult your commandments. oh wow, now the sin in your mind and your thoughts are not on your commandments. nothing is said about taking your mind captive. see how way off you are????
---shira4368 on 7/18/13


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---Elder on 7/17/13
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

The expectation here is that we keep all the commandments.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

The expectation here is that we keep all the commandments.

Luke 1:5 a certain priest named Zacharias, and his wife her name was Elisabeth. they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

I have already pointed out that Christ in US strengthens us to keep his commandments blameless. TRY IT
---francis on 7/18/13


The true test of whether you love God is your desire to keep ALL His commandments
some do 8/10
some do 9/10
true love is ALL, the whole law, including dietary law, that is how you know you love God and that is how you know that you know God---francis on 7/17/13

Amen! EVERY sins committed can be pointed back to a violation of one of the 10 Commandments.

God knows we are sinful people and knows our hearts.
So, He is able to place His Law into 10 simple statements.
Which Jesus kept all Commandments in Love for His Father.
Thus, Jesus gives us the Graces to keep all 10 Commandments and forgives those not kept.

Anyone: Name any sin and I (or Francis) can point it back to one of the 10 Commandments.
---Nikki on 7/18/13


"No shira4368 you do not live by faith. Those who live by faith know that through christ in us, we are able to keep all the commandments"
Francis
Francis how many commandments are there? Do you keep them all?
Why did John write I John?
John said that those who say they haven't sinned are liars and the truth is not in them.
This book was written to the little born again ones/ the saved. So don't say John was speaking to the lost because he wasn't.
I have also noticed that those who claim to keep "all the commandments" are very proud of their efforts....
---Elder on 7/17/13


No shira4368 you do not live by faith. Those who live by faith know that through christ in us, we are able to keep all the commandments:

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Ephesians 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man,
Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith, that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

shira4368 shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
---francis on 7/17/13


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The concept of denomination in once condemned in the Bible, in 1 Cor 3 ('I am of ......) - there it was of the followers of one or another member of the Church, but it is in fact no different

A denomination is just the same thing except it teaches the superiority of a superiority of a view of teaching, which was as a rule, taught by a member of the church!

Some of the older denominations do not have something taught by a particular member, and thus they have less weird views!
---Peter on 7/17/13


francis...WRONG.. I live by faith. God knows no human can keep the commandments. see you are a deceiver even to yourself. you think you have to work to get to heaven. see, I don't have the same salvation as you do. my salvation is based on faith and I am eternally secured in the hand of God. wow, read your bible. works don't get anyone to heaven.
---shira4368 on 7/17/13


//Christian friends has abandoned him. so so sad.
---shira4368 on 7/17/13//
True Christians don't abandon you in time of trouble.
---michael_e on 7/17/13


The true test is whether you have a true love for the Christ of the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 7/17/13
The true test of whether you love God is your desire to keep ALL His commandments

some do 8/10
some do 9/10

true love is ALL, the whole law, including dietary law, that is how you know you love God and that is how you kow that you know God
---francis on 7/17/13


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The true test is whether you have a true love for the Christ of the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 7/17/13
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

James 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
---francis on 7/17/13


francis, there is no need for you to tell me how to get saved. I have been a child of the King since 1952. God speaks to me thru my bible and sometimes He just lays things on my heart. when God lays something on my heart, I don't have a doubt about it. I learned last night of a preacher in Tennessee who was a vibrant man of God with many preacher friends. he had a stroke and is in a wheel chair and all his friends abandon him. that is a travesty to the imth degree. imth means highest. I made that up. pray for bro. queen in tenn. is is 80 yrs old and his Christian friends has abandoned him. so so sad.
---shira4368 on 7/17/13


Heretic francis, everything you said can be said about your denomination. Then you say,
"If you want to be sure that you are walking with God take the James 1:22-25 test"
You are wrong. The true test is whether you have a true love for the Christ of the Bible. And you, have presented to us the wrong Jesus. Your jesus is an archangel. You have placed your love in the wrong person. The genuine Christians place their faith in Jesus Christ, who is God and Creator of all things, including archangels. Your test failed.
---Mark_V. on 7/17/13


Some here have indicated that only members of their denomination will be saved. What do you think?
---jerry6593 on 7/13/13
When people are siting in their denominational building, where everyone else believes the same thing, they feel safe, as if they were doing the right thing. It is the job of the pastor to reassure them that they are doing the right thing, believing the rights things. The pastor then makes then feel special, as if God has called them, and them alone to be saved, as if God has made them to be saved, and others to be lost. It is a false sense of security that is given to those who are not even following God

If you want to be sure that you are walking with God take the James 1:22-25 test
---francis on 7/16/13


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---shira4368 on 7/16/13
Obedience to God is not what we do to be saved. It is how we live AFTER we have received the gift of salvation. Understanding that Jesus died to save us from our sin, and strengthens us to keep his laws we obey.

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
---francis on 7/16/13


markv, I don't talk about you but I do talk about your beliefs. I do feel like you are saved. your only problem is you believe a false doctrine. I do know that all won't be saved but all have a chance to be saved.
---shira4368 on 7/16/13


francis, why don't you read my post. I have never never said I didn't believe in the law. I said I didn't get saved by the law. your whole faith is based on law. mine is based on faith. the greatest commandment is to love the Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, soul and body. I try to do that. you don't seem to know anything spiritual but you know the law. your focus should be on salvation by faith not by works.
---shira4368 on 7/16/13


shira4368 get to know the law, the law is spiritual, the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Romans 7:12-14

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them

Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Romans 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified

shira4368 get to know the law, Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be Romans 8:7
---francis on 7/16/13


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Shira, you now talk about me,
"and markv isn't when he thinks Christ died for him but sends others to hell. markv has even told me I don't know anything about my bible. wow"
Shira, get it correct.
We know God saves some and does not save others. You also know if God wanted to save everyone He could. Nothing stops him, not sinful man. Yet you continue to make comments about God. God does according to His will, not your will.
"He does according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, And none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35).
You clearly say, not true. That He cannot save someone unless sinful man gives Him permission. Now, are you correct, or is God correct?
---Mark_V. on 7/16/13


While I agree that every person should be convinced in his own heart that the church he attends is correct in their doctrinal beliefs, I think that it is a mistake to judge the doctrines of others using our beliefs. I think that we should rather use the entire Bible as the only standard of doctrine and the singular basis of our beliefs.

This blog question was in response to a statement by a CN contributor that Orthodoxy was the only path to heaven. The problem is that his definition of Orthodoxy is not in harmony with the doctrines of the Apostles - and thus belies its name.



---jerry6593 on 7/16/13


And, Jerry, what do they consider to be saved?

"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)

It says we have been perfected in His love, and this is our assurance for "the day of judgment" > "because as He is, so are we in this world."

So, is their denomination their assurance, or is their assurance the reality of how God's love has made us become loving "as He is" "in this world"?

This is how our Father is sharing with us, even making us loving like He is! (c:
---willie_c: on 7/16/13


Whosoever loves GOD with all his heart and loves his neighbor as himself will be saved and go to Heaven. Those who do not no matter how good their doctrine will be lost.

We are not saved by knowledge but by the Grace of GDO. When a person is born again their heart changes. While they may still have problems with their head knowledge it is the heart knowledge of love that is the sign of a true believer.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/15/13


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"Lord, I think you that you have saved me, and kept me from blasphemous beliefs like these other damned heretics (insert Baptists, Catholics, Mormons, Adventists, or any other favorite hated group here) have done."

That kind of belief is exactly the same kind of thing as the pharisees who prayed to God that they were better than the sinners. I.e. It's wrong, and dangerously so.

Anyone who says "I'm saved and you're not because you believe differently" is asking for trouble.
---StrongAxe on 7/15/13


francis, we do know we on cn are not in one accord. that's exactly why I go to the church where I am a member. we are all in one accord. since all you know is the law then you are not in one accord and markv isn't when he thinks Christ died for him but sends others to hell. markv has even told me I don't know anything about my bible. wow
---shira4368 on 7/15/13


---A_servant on 7/14/13
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
-Francis

Romans 14:3
Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not, and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

Roman 14:5
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Can you really say that these men walk together? Obviously not, but does this mean that only one will go to heaven. No.
We are saved by faith on the Lord Christ Jesus, there are some things that men will not agree on, but will not lock the door to heaven.
---A_servant on 7/15/13


Some here have indicated that only members of their denomination will be saved. What do you think?
---jerry6593 on 7/13/13
One of the tactics of Satan is to get people to stay in their sins.
Satan's ministers, deceive people by telling them that their beliefs are right, when by reading the bible they can plainly see that what they believe is contrary to Gods law
One person I know on CN, is convinced that he has been predestined by God to be saved. He is deceived. The deception goes so far that he is unable to tell which day of the week is the first day, and which day is the 7th day, but his minister has assured him that it is OK because he is predestined to be saved, even if he lives in open rebellion against God
---francis on 7/15/13


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well I am Baptist and I know all Baptist aren't going to heaven. satan plants his influence in our churches. all churches are full of it. satan will even send a person to make trouble in the church.
---shira4368 on 7/15/13


Many denominations get started because some refuse to obey God and start their own form of worship.
Then these people have the nerve to get mad when people from their own form of worship wish to leave and start their own form of worship.
To keep them from leaving they tell them they are going to hell if they leave.
---Nikki on 7/15/13


The Acts 2 v 38 Church of The Living God Is, The relationship with God, NOT a denomination.

The family body of trinity in Rev.17 v's 4 - 6 Are denominations. Also the gods buddha, allah, hindu etc & those that worship such. For broad is the way that leads to destruction ( hell & the lake of fire ), & be many to go in thereat. These All part of the gates of hell, & will Not prevail against or over the Acts 2 v 38 Church of The Living God.
---Lawrence on 7/15/13


francis, God isn't keeping any secrets from His children. it is laid out very carefully the doctrine of God almighty. the bible speaks of a mystery but when we are saved we understand the mystery. I don't understand everything the bible says and neither do you. I do search for deeper things of God.
---shira4368 on 7/15/13


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---A_servant on 7/14/13
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

---shira4368 on 7/14/13
God is not keeping the truth a secret. God is not keeping a secret from us as to which of the 100 denominations is teaching the truth. God has an unchanging standard

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to co

Rev 14:12 here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

false denominations will teach you faith in Jesus, and stair you away from the law of God
---francis on 7/14/13


Denominations are ridiculous. The bible tells us what we need to do to be saved, so we should focus on that. I'm not saying only members of a particular denomination will be saved, but it's just not what Christ has in mind for us. Denominations are made when man creates his own tradition, or tries to explain the bible differently to fit his own understanding, rather than reading as a child and accepting the words of the creator. Just read your Bible and believe, why concern yourself with labels when you can simply have a faith?
---A_servant on 7/14/13


ok francis, you are right about denominations tell what we believe. the thing that bothers me is if there are hundred of different denominations and they all teach different doctrine, then somewhere there is 999 that are wrong. of course we all think we are right so I think I will just go with God's Word and try the spirits.
---shira4368 on 7/14/13


."What do you think?" That belief has no biblical base or support.
---Josef on 7/14/13


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while the denomination itself will not save you, the denomination determines what you believe

if there are 100 denominations in the world. and each with a different set of doctrines, and God has a guarantee that there is truth in the world then we know that 99 of the 100 are teaching false doctrines

The bible standard is this:
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Now if a denomination does not follow that standard, it is teaching false doctrines

Now even withing the 1 denomination that keeps this standard, there are individual members who do not keep it, and some who do keep it
---francis on 7/14/13


Denomination will not save anyone.John 3:16,"... whosoever believeth in him(Jesus) should not perish, but have everlasting life"[AKJV]. Remember, wherever Christians congregate, the evil one also sends his own there.
---Adetunji on 7/14/13


---Cluny on 7/13/13
Before you ask people what they think, why do you not seek to say what God has already said.

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, ..and think to change times and laws:

Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar,


Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
---francis on 7/13/13


thanks elder, im getting dense in my old age. lol Pharisee and me are on the same page as you. praise God at least some of us are in one accord. the others are just hurting each other and will never be in one accord.
---shira4368 on 7/13/13


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1 Corinthains 1:10 - Now I beseech you by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you,but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment
---RICHARDC on 7/13/13


Shirl, Pharasee was just saying that if the Bible didn't all ready testify to what God has/will do the Holy Spirit which came into us would allow us to know what we need to know.
In his quote of a "Greater man" he is speaking of Paul and his writings.
His reference to "what is greater has come," he is speaking of the Holy Spirit.
Hope this helps. God bless both of you.
---Elder on 7/13/13


\\I will never have the mark of the beast because I won't be here.
---shira4368 on 7/13/13\\

There is no such thing as a pre-trib rapture, shira.

Those who are waiting for it will be among the first to fall down and worship Antichrist.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/13/13


There will be people of all denominations and religions in heaven. There will be people in heaven who have never even heard of Jesus or Jehovah.

The only ones who will not be in heaven are those who refuse to repent tor thier sins.
---francis on 7/13/13


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cluny I worship on sunday and the beast can't bother me because I belong to God. I have never heard that anyway. some here believe satan will be in heaven again. some don't even think he exist. I will never have the mark of the beast because I won't be here.
---shira4368 on 7/13/13


NOT true!

John 3:16 (ASV)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Titus 2:11 (NASB77)
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, (No denomination mentioned.)

If I were to write down all the Bible verses that claim only through Christ is there salvation, I'd take up more space than allowed on these blogs. All of them were written BEFORE any denominations were even established.
---wivv on 7/13/13


It does not matter about denominations to be saved. Our denomination tells us what bible doctrine is and how to apply it to our Christian living. There are many that God will reject in judgment. Many Baptist are not saved but on Sunday they go to church and the rest of the week they are living for saran. That goes on Everywhere. There will always be tares.
---shira4368 on 7/13/13


Pharisee, you don't own a bible? I will be happy to send you a nice bible. as nice as mine are. maybe I didn't get the jist of your comment. please send mail to my cn mail..shira4368
---shira4368 on 7/13/13


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Some here have indicated that worship on Sunday is the mark of the beast.

What do you think?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/13/13


When Jesus denounced the Pharisees He denounced them as a sect (denomination) it's called corporate responsibility.
If you're the "swan" in the group of ducklings ,your chances of being shot as one of them is greatly increased!
---1st_cliff on 7/13/13


I think God's dragnet is bigger then we have or can imagine. If there's no limit to his power (and there isn't) then even what we can know of him from the scriptures isn't sufficient to completely explain his workings to our understanding.

I'm not trying to put forth some half hearted false humility, I am truly awed by the fact of who he is and if I only had the Bible I could only discern parts of his Spirit, but what is greater has come, the Spirit itself testifies and completes the witness as each of us is able to contain it.

I quote a greater man... "for now we see through a glass dimly." There is a fullness we don't have access to, not because it's not given but because of our limitations.
---Pharisee on 7/13/13


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